#Lmk fuxi

[quitealotofsodapop]

Nüwa & Fuxi, and MK:

As a slight break from the emotionally heavier AUs; I would like to introduce y'all to a silly idea I had after watching Season 5 + an Au idea.

Now that Nüwa is a confirmed entity in LMK, I had ideas of what her counterpart/mate Fuxi would be like.

If Nüwa can be considered Mother Nature, then Fuxi is the Father of Invention. Folktales typically credit Fuxi as the inventor of nets (from watching a spider catch prey in a web), the Eight Trigrams and Five Elements from the world around him etc...

Many tales depict Fuxi as another half-snake/naga-like creature as Nüwa, possibly even her twin brother. Though the genetic connection is believed to be a case of mythological syncretism with another creation myth.

Here's a very useful video by a Chinese historian for extra details:

As much as the imagery of two snakes coiled around each other is cool af; I personally think that maybe Fuxi's true form is that of a creature close to Nüwa's heart and mythos.

One particularly interesting depiction I found has Fuxi as a man draped in many furs.

So what does Fuxi look like in my idea? Well...

A big ol' proto-human hominid who helped his primordial creator goddess-wife figure out the design of what would become the humans of the Asian subcontinent.

Nüwa was the sister of the entity that would become the Jade Emperor, and was born with a marvellous ability to create life from clay. However, her creations were terribly flawed. Not in a quirky "everyone is a little different"-way flawed, but completed unable to survive in the wild or reproduce.

Meanwhile on the chaos-stricken Earth, a young Pleistocene monkey-man has been inventing up a storm of things that can make his people's lives easier!

The two have a fateful encounter, and it's love at first sight.

Nüwa shared the knowledge of the Heavens with Fuxi, while he in turn created methods to strengthen her clay creations and teach them means of survival.

For a while the clay creatures still could not reproduce on their own - they had to ask Nüwa directly to create a new figure if they wished for progeny.

One day Fuxi saw the little clay monkeys sad over their lack of offspring, and handed them a small rock.

"This is an egg. When it hatches, you will have your cub."

The clay-made monkeys hooted excitedly, cradling their "Eggs" as if they were delicate newborns. The gesture was only meant to act as a placebo until their creator could create a brand new figure.

But one day the rocks started hatching...

Nüwa: "My love! I figured it out! The clay I was using wasn't fertile enough! If I create the next generation from the clay along the Yellow River then they should- EHHH!?" (*The clearing is full of delighted clay monkey couples. Each one hugging and kissing an infant monkey, surrounded by shards of brightly-colored rock*) Fuxi, shrugging: "I guess I found a way too?" Nüwa: (*giggles excitedly and wraps around her mate in a tight embrace*)

Despite how smoothly the first rock-born monkeys came to be, they were still created from inert material unlike Nüwa's later creations. And they had a much harder time passing on their genetics. Stone Eggs aren't exactly efficient to form and carry. But the creators did have fun creating new ancestral lineages from different types of gemstones! Nüwa's favourites would always be Fuxi's original "stone-born monkeys" though.

Sadly, with the destruction of the Fifth Heavenly Pillar, the Great Flood irreparably destroyed many of Nüwa's creations. Her beloved stone monkeys among them.

And possibly even taking away her mate....

So where does MK fall into this?

Easy.

Despite creating many clay figures together; Nüwa and Fuxi had no biological children of their own. Their differing species, and the disgust from Heaven at their bond, meant that any natural progeny was next to impossible.

Except...

The Goddess laughed at the bitter irony. To leave the last trace of her mate behind in order to uphold the Pillar. For her and Fuxi's child to be the one to herald the breaking of the cycle.

Before the Guardians are entrusted with the Five-Coloured Stones, Nüwa kisses her baby goodnight and puts them to rest inside of their stone cradle - the only egg strong enough to keep them safe.

An Egg made of Stone.

MK should be so lucky he was born resembling his father, and not slinking around with his mother's legless tail.

[ep2nd]

If you had the choice to and anything In lmk

What would you and in any category.

Character, back story, episode adding, style, anything you want!

I'm gonna guess the ands mean "Add"

Also why did I not post this????

So if I were to add anything, I'd add the other 2 Celestial Primates- no contest, I have like page notes and essays for them, I love em dearly I want them here:(

I'd also add for some episode ideas- A snow day, Monkey Kings staff gets broken, if the other 2 Primates were here- all 4 would get their powers mixed up, and if not just switch Macaque and Wukong, Wukongs birthday, them traveling to the Underworld(great opportunity to see past Wukong enemies and maybe dead characters, for the spider gang fans), a day with Guanyin, a three-legged race but Yin and Jin took control and forced people who don't get along to team up, more about the Dragon Clans, Subhodi, thats it, and an episode where Macaque discovers his creator(s), also one with Nuwa and Wukong BECAUSE WE WERRE ROBBED

For style, everything's fine, for Back story- definitely more about Macaque and Wukongs history, because some things don't coincide with JTTW timeline, also their ages cause I'm still confused, like something said 1,000 apart but like how would macaque and wukong live together?? (That's a topic for another day). OH AND ALSO PIF DEPARTURE FROM THE CELESTIAL REALMS COME ON WE NEED THE TEA. And also Erlang and Wukongs relationship, because if the Jade Emperor ended the fight, did they ever face off?? (I hope)

Continue for Episode adding- I would like to see more episodes, but the pace is good for its show, better than Ninjago in former seasons where it felt repetitive and just more screentime. Lmk uses its screentime wisely and effectively, though sometimes it does feel rushed. I'd like more fun episodes where they just time together.

Anything extra- You know what I'm going to say- ADD MORE CHARACTERS. SHOUTOUT TO ERLANG, GUANYIN, OTHER 2 CELESTIAL PRIMATES, AND GOLD STAR.

Also maybe a Celestial Villain, instead of a Demon villain, mix things up

Also Fuxi, Nuwas brother or husband, or both, depending on the Myth

I wanna know who created Wukongs Staff

More of Chang'e she's fun

Just more Mei and MK time, I miss em:(

MORE MO MONETS I LOVE THAT CAT

Always enjoy JTTW references!!!

Bring back the Female Nation and pregnancy water you COWARDS

SANDY. PERIOD.

The Mayor- let him steal ALL the kneecaps

Bai He to officially come back, JUST FOR AN EPISODE PLEASE. AND TO FINNALY CANOMINZE HER NAME CAUSE IM PRETTY SURE BAI HE IS FANON

That'd all for now sorry for waiting so long, kinda forgot to post it:(, sorryyy

[fluttershyflores2]

Àn xi made her say that.

[lmkobsessedmoth]

Why do mortals have more chi than other species

I’m going to assume you’re talking about my au. Humans have the least qi because they weren’t made from any magical material, demons have more qi then humans because it’s believed that demons came from spirits who were given a physical form, celestials have more qi the humans and demons because they either given it as a reward for their good deeds before they died or they’re related to the first gods of the world, spirits are the most powerful beings as they are made completely free qi. Some members of each race has the potential to be stronger or weaker than the average and if someone’s strength is as strong as or rivals the a spirits power they have the potential to become gods or spirits when they die

Examples of 2 powerful beings who became a god and a spirit are guanyin (she had very strong healing abilities and sacrificed her life to heal her father which granted them godhood) and fuxi (he has the world’s first and strongest jade emperor and sacrificed his life to repair the pillar of heaven when it first broke) 

[icekingofhope]

I decided to draw fuxi again since I only drew him once (the only one using the design I made for him is my friend @fluttershyflores2 which btw go look at their art they have amazing art and such)

I personally like to think that he is abit different from nuwa instead of her…making the harbingers of chaos (mk and my oc Yong du) to make them as sacrifices

he views every life sacred and nothing is worth a sacrifice I imagine he is also still around living among the humans but I do imagine he some points meet mk and the others

(I also imagine he acts like a father figure to mk wukong and Yong since…they were made by nuwa and such)

I hope you like it!

[dorothygale123]

So I was doing more research (like you do), this time here:

It's like, a dollar on Kindle, but anyway.

I was reading the section about Xiwangmu, the Queen Mother of the West (pg 35), and it said that her consort was Dongwanggong, the King Father of the East, NOT the Jade Emperor. While this is likely just the kind of inconsistency that happens to a mythology over eons and vast distances, but it got me thinking about a story from my other source:

The story of the Queen of Heaven, Tian Hou/Tian Fe Niang Niang (pg 104). Now, being described as the Queen of Heaven one would expect her to be consort to the ruler of heaven, the Jade Emperor, but I couldn't find any sources claiming that. They all said the Jade Emperor's consort was Xiwangmu.

I also had Nu Wa, an early earth goddess, on the mind because she shows up in both books. Her parentage is a bit wobbly because of how old she is, with some sources claiming her to be the daughter of the Jade Emperor, while others say she's the child of Huaxu (another powerful goddess) and Leigong, the god of thunder, along with her twin brother/husband Fu Xi.

Now, taking all this scattered and messy mythology I thought: how can I clean this up so it fits in a modern story (like LMK) in a way that makes sense? Here's what I came up with:

The Jade Emperor and Xiwangmu are both on their second marriage. JE's first wife was Tian Hou, XWM's first hubby was DWG. Both couples split for some reason before JE and XWM got together.

Nu Wa is a child from XWM's first marriage with DWG, making her JE's stepdaughter rather than his biological daughter, while Fu Xi is still the child of Huaxu and Leigong because I know gods are different, but incest is still yuck.

I know trying to iron out mythology is a pointless endeavor because they were never meant to hold together in the first place, but I think I did pretty well here. Thoughts?

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[jedineedlove]

Legend VS LMK

Nüwa

Legend:

Name:

Mother Goddes, and Member of the Three Sovereigns of Chinese Mythology. The sister and wife of Fuxi. Nuwa is considered the goddess of creation and the female emperor of mankind. Her reverential name is Wahuang (Chinese: 媧皇; lit. 'Empress Wa'). That is due to Nuwa’s position of honor in the Chinese pantheon, Nuwa was given a character completely unique to her name – Wa. Nu is the character of woman and is often used as a prefix for goddesses.

Shes is a godess in Chinese folk religion, Buddihsm, Confucianism and Taoism

She is one of the most venerated Chinese goddesses alongside Guanyin and Mazu.

Origin:

Nuwa was created by her mother, the goddess Huaxu. While wandering the heavenly realms, Huaxu stepped into the footprint of the god of thunder Leigong and suddenly became pregnant. In the earliest versions of the myth, Huaxu gave birth in the earthly realm to only Nuwa.

In later versions, Huaxu gave birth to Nuwa and Fuxi. Nuwa and Fuxi were born with the bodies of snakes and the faces of humans, however, they could shapeshift into humanoid figures with two legs and a tail.

Nüwa & Fuxi Appearances:

The iconography of Fuxi and Nüwa vary in physical appearance depending on the time period and regional differences. In tomb murals and iconography, Fuxi and Nüwa generally have snake-like bodies and human faces or heads.

Nüwa is often depicted holding a compass or multiple compasses, which were a symbol of a dome-like sky. She was also thought to be an embodiment of the stars and the sky or a star god.

Fuxi and Nüwa can be depicted as individual figures arranged as a symmetrical pair or they can be depicted in double figures with intertwined snake-like bodies. Their snake-like tails can also be depicted stretching out towards each other. This is similar to the representation of Rahu and Ketu in Indian astrology.

As some tales of Nüwa and Fuxi, both sprang from the same mother at the same time, Taoists believed that Nuwa was the primordial personification of yin energy (female, gentle, intuitive, and receptive) and Fuxi was representative of the yang (male, fast, active, fierce). Coming together symbolized the reunion of the yin and yang energies which then united to create human existence.

Fuxi and Nüwa can also appear individually on separate tomb bricks. They generally hold or embrace the sun or moon discs containing the images of a bird or a toad (sometimes a hare) which are the sun and moon symbolism respectively. Them holding the sun and the moon appear as early as the late Western Han dynasty.

Other physical appearance variations, such as lower snake-like body shape, depictions of legs. and wings with feathers that protrude from their backs as found in the late Western Han Xinan Tomb or smaller quills found on their shoulders, and in hats and hairstyles.

the Gansu murals dating to the Wei and Western Jin period, one of the most typical features of Fuxi is the "mountain-hat" which looks like a three-peaked cap while Nüwa is depicted wearing various hairstyles characteristic of Han women. Both deities dressed in wide-sleeved clothing, which reflects the typical Han clothing style also commonly depicted in Han dynasty art.

Nüwa and Fuxi Other Stories:

In one version of their myth, soon after the birth of Nuwa and Fuxi, a great flood struck the earth, and only Nuwa and Fuxi remained unharmed after escaping by boat. As the years passed, and with only each other to keep themselves company, Nuwa and Fuxi longed for companionship. Unwilling to violate the laws of heaven by sleeping together as brother and sister, they prayed together seeking a sign of approval.

As they were the only humanoids of their kind left upon the earth, the Emperor of Heaven accepted their union. After mating, Nuwa gave birth to humanity, becoming the matriarch of mankind by giving birth to a ball of meat. Nuwa and Fuxi then divided the meat into pieces shaped as humans and scattered them across the world.

In another version of the creation tale, found in the Classic of Mountains and Seas, Nuwa and Fuxi lived upon legendary Kunlun Mountain. Trying to keep warm on a cold night, the twins created two fires. As the fires burned, they eventually became one. While watching the fires merge, Nuwa and Fuxi joined together as husband and wife. Deciding that they would like to have children, they molded clay into the shape of humans. Using their powers to imbue the small figurines with life, Nuwa and Fuxi created humanity.

Duyi Zhi volume 3, written by LiRong over a thousand years ago, gives a slightly different account of the Chinese creation myth – “There was a brother and a sister living on the Kunlun Mountain, and there were no ordinary people at that time. The sister’s name was Nuwa. The brother and sister wished to become husband and wife but felt shy and guilty about this desire. So the brother took his younger sister to the top of the Kunlun Mountain and prayed: “If Heaven allows us to be man and wife, please let the smoke before us gather; if not, please let the smoke scatter.” The smoke before them gathered together. So Nuwa came to live with her elder brother. She made a fan with grass to hide her face. (The present custom of women covering their faces with fans originated from this story).”

"But most versions give sol credit of humanity's creation to Nuwa. But in some of those Fuxi is credited with introducing a number of innovations and inventions that made significant improvements to the lives of his wife’s beloved creations. One of these, for instance, is the invention of fishing and domesticating animals. "

Creation:

After the goddess Hauxu gave birth to Nuwa, Nuwa roamed the earth alone. The earth was young and teeming with life, filled with blossoming trees and flowers. The lush grounds were covered with many types of animals, the skies were filled with birds, and the seas were full of fish. But while the earth was beautiful, Nuwa felt very lonely, despairing that there was no one to accompany her.

While walking one day, Nuwa was struck by the idea of creating living beings herself. First, she made a new type of bird that could not fly away from her by creating chickens. Then she wanted to make an animal that would be a constant companion, and Nuwa created dogs. On the third day, she made sheep. Then pigs. Then cows. On day six, Nuwa made horses On day seven, while Nuwa walked along a riverbank, she stopped to admire her reflection. As she stroked the hair from her face, she was struck with inspiration and thought to make life forms that looked like her. Nuwa began to scoop and mold yellow clay into figures that had arms and could stand upright upon legs. As she worked the mud in her hands, the figures came alive and began to move and speak. Soon, the creations began to sing and dance around Nuwa while honoring her. All of the loneliness Nuwa had known went away.

Thrilled at her results and filled with passion for her creation, Nuwa desired to make more humans faster. She realized that she could drag rope across the mud and mass produce them, as creating every person individually was beginning to take too much time and hurting her hands. Soon she began to whip the rope, flinging mud and making people faster and faster.

The people Nuwa molded by hand became the wealthy nobility. The ones she made by dragging the rope became commoners. And finally, the ones Nuwa made by whipping the rope became the servant class. As she finished making the last batch of humans it began to rain. Because some of these figures had not yet dried, the rain began to mark them and melt them. The last batch of humans that Nuwa created were damaged by the rain, and thus were the ancestors of those with sickness and deformities.

"She molded humans individually by hand with yellow clay. In other stories where she fulfills this role, she only created nobles and/or the rich out of yellow soil. The stories vary on the other details about humanity's creation, but it was a tradition commonly believed in ancient China that she created commoners from brown mud."

The Pillars:

One of the enduring myths of Nuwa is that of the repairing of the Pillar of Heaven. In the early days of earth’s existence, The earth was separated from the sky by four large pillars which had once been the arms and legs of the creator god, Pangu.

During these early days, the god of water, Gong Gong, and the god of fire, Zhu Rong, had been at odds for many years. Unable to hold back their fury at one another, they engaged in battle to determine who would be the god of the heavens. As they fought, fires raged and floods began to destroy the new earth.

Gong Gong was finally subdued by Zhu Rong, but in his rage, he slammed his head against Buzhou Mountain, one of the four pillars of heaven that had once been Pangu’s leg. An earthquake shook the earth, and the pillar collapsed tearing a hole in the skies.

Looking upon the earth, Nuwa was filled with compassion for her children who were suffering. The new creation of earth had been torn to shreds from the battle between the water and fire gods. Fires burned out of control and water poured in a deluge from the hole in the sky. Nuwa desired to help her children, so she sought out the sky turtle, Ao.

Nuwa threw herself at Ao’s mercy, hoping for a miracle to save her many children. The sky turtle, feeling compassion for the mother of humanity, took Nuwa’s sword and cut off one of his legs, offering it as a substitute pillar. After leaving Ao, Nuwa collected five colored stones (red, yellow, blue, white, and black) and melted them together to repair the hole in the heavens, while using Ao’s leg to replace the pillar.

( The five-colored stones symbolize the five Chinese elements (wood, fire, earth, metal, and water)

Waters poured on her relentlessly as she pushed the leg into position, and once in place, she shoved the ashes of burnt reeds into the remaining holes to plug the leaks. After replacing the pillar and stopping the deluge, Nuwa fell exhausted upon the earth and died.

While many are familiar with the Chinese myth of the Three Sovereigns and Five Emperors, some areas of south China revere Nuwa as one of the Three Sovereigns, reigning as Empress Wa after the death of Fuxi and the rise of Shennong.

Tying into China’s strong ancient matriarchal beliefs, after the reign of Fuxi, the Empress Wa’s rule was challenged by a neighboring tribal chieftan. After defeating the chief in battle, Nuwa dragged her enemy to the peak of Mount Buzhou. Filled with shame, the chief banged his head upon the mountain, tearing a hole in the sky.

As the waters poured from the heavens, the entire world soon flooded, killing all of creation except for her army which was protected by her godhood. Nuwa then found five colored stones and melted them together, patching the hole in the sky.

In other versions of the Pillar of Heaven myth, when Nuwa attempted to fix the sky with the five melted stones she soon found that there was not enough to fix the hole in the sky. Knowing there was no other choice, Nuwa used her own body to fix the remaining hole, sacrificing her life to keep her children safe. With the hole repaired the deluge ended, and humanity was able to thrive and multiply again.

"In all of the myths of the repair of the Pillar of Heaven, due to Ao’s leg being slightly shorter than the original pillars, Nuwa could not align the sky and earth the same as they were before. The sky slanted to the northwest. The earth slanted southeast.

Since the repair, the sun, moon, and stars all rise from the east and set to the west, and all of the rivers in China flow southeast. And due to the use of the multi-colored stones, the clouds of heaven now had different colors."

Other:

In southwest China, many of the minority groups still celebrate Nuwa as their primary goddess and honor her with the yearly Water-Splashing Festival. There are many temples to Nuwa and Fuxi, but the largest temple to the pair lies in Hebei Province, believed to be the ancestral home of all humanity.

The Classic of Mountains and Seas, dated between the Warring States period and the Han dynasty, describes Nüwa's intestines as being scattered into ten spirits.

In Shuowen Jiezi (c. 58 – 147 AD), China's earliest dictionary, under the entry for Nüwa author Xu Shen describes her as being both the sister and the wife of Fuxi. Nüwa and Fuxi were pictured as having snake-like tails interlocked in an Eastern Han dynasty mural in the Wuliang Temple in Jiaxiang county, Shandong province.

In the collection Four Great Books of Song (c. 960 – 1279 AD), compiled by Li Fang and others, Volume 78 of the book Imperial Readings of the Taiping Era contains a chapter "Customs by Yingshao of the Han Dynasty" in which it is stated that there were no men when the sky and the earth were separated. Thus Nüwa used yellow clay to make people. But the clay was not strong enough so she put ropes into the clay to make the bodies erect. It is also said that she prayed to gods to let her be the goddess of marital affairs.

In Ming dynasty myths about the transition from the Shang dynasty to the Zhou dynasty, Nüwa made evil decisions that ultimately benefited China, such as sending a fox spirit to encourage the debauchery of King Zhou, which led to him being deposed. Other tales have her and Fuxi as exclusively the "great gentle protectors of humanity" unwilling to use subterfuge Another telling of that story is from the famed Ming Dynasty novel Fengshen Bang. Nüwa is revered since Xia dynasty for creating the five-colored stones to mend the heavens, which tilted after Gonggong toppled one of the heavenly pillars, Mount Buzhou. Shang Rong asked King Zhou of Shang to pay her a visit as a sign of deep respect. Upon seeing her statue, Zhou was completely overcome with lust at the sight of the beautiful ancient goddess Nüwa. He wrote an erotic poem on a neighboring wall and took his leave. When Nüwa later returned to her temple after visiting the Yellow Emperor, she saw the foulness of Zhou's words. In her anger, she swore that the Shang dynasty would end in payment for his offense. In her rage, Nüwa personally ascended to the palace in an attempt to kill the king, but was suddenly struck back by two large beams of red light. After Nüwa realized that King Zhou was already destined to rule the kingdom for twenty-six more years, Nüwa summoned her three subordinates—the Thousand-Year Vixen (later becoming Daji), the Jade Pipa, and the Nine-Headed Pheasant. With these words, Nüwa brought destined chaos to the Shang dynasty, "The luck Cheng Tang won six hundred years ago is dimming. I speak to you of a new mandate of heaven which sets the destiny for all. You three are to enter King Zhou's palace, where you are to bewitch him. Whatever you do, do not harm anyone else. If you do my bidding, and do it well, you will be permitted to reincarnate as human beings." With these words, Nüwa was never heard of again, but was still a major indirect factor towards the Shang dynasty's fall.

Nüwa and Fuxi were also thought to be gods of silk

LMK:

Long ago, Nüwa sculpted humanity out of clay and mud. She believed her children would not survive the primordial sea of chaos, so she built the Pillar of Heaven and forged the cycles to protect them. But, a cataclysmic event left the pillar shattered. Nüwa crafted five-colored stones and reconstructed the pillar back to its original state. She entrusted four stones to the Four Symbols: the Vermillion Bird, the Black Tortoise, the White Tiger, and the Teal Dragon, the final one to be guarded by the Jade Emperor. After Monkey King's birth, Nüwa repurposed his stone to carry the Harbinger of Chaos. She was saddened by the creature's existence to sacrifice himself but knew that this was a necessary sacrifice to keep her children safe from the chaos beyond.

Thoughts:

Throughout the whole research into her real-world mythology. She has been credited for creating a few animals though monkeys are not mentioned that could be just my research or something else. But I actually found something similar to her pillar story number 3 that nearly matches the LMK version of her fixing the pillars. She was never in the JTTW. But some other thoughts on Nuwa and the pillars I think when she fixed the pillars she accidentally made Wukong. I don't remember where I read this but I think there was a version of JTTW that had the Jade Emperor say something about " Made with the essence of fragments of Godess Nuwas Power" Even if that might not be what I remember right. Maybe it could be in the LMK universe when the crew fought the Nine-headed demon, he used his chaos powers to bind them to certain sections of the wall.

MK is placed over his mural self, the silhouette of his destiny. And the others are placed over the sotnes that would later be them when they smashed them.

But then look at Wukong who is placed in Nuwas hand in the mural of her molding and creating humans.

This could be foreshadowing that it might be revealed and it might hold something of importance later. It might also explain why the goddess chose Wukong as the templet for her harbinger of chaos.

Other Media:

She does appear in the film "The Monkey King: Havoc in Heaven's Palace" and "Journey to the West II", both of which feature Nüwa creating Sun Wukong using one of the five-colored stones. The former film also features Nüwa sacrificing herself to rebuild Heaven, similar to her actions previous to Season 5.

Thnak you for reading if you have something i missed please leave it in the comments thank you :)

[jyytheriverdragon]

Here's my design for Nuwa in the webcomic! A heads up that her story will be INCREDIBLY different from LMK and IRL mythology.

She was as tall as mountains and often spent her days just relaxing in the sun. She was also so big and slow that greenery grew to cover her all over.

She was also in a relationship with Fuxi (who isn't related to her because EW WHY) but both have unfortunately been long gone and dead before the main story in the webcomic even started.

However that doesn't mean we won't get to see her sometime later in the story.

If you have any questions feel free to ask! Mind you though I can't answer everything especially if it pertains to spoilers

[acoraxia]

sorry to bother but could you tell me about your version of nuwa? she’s been a fav of mine for a while , and idk how i feel about lego monkie kids nuwa

god YES okay so thank you to @hagstones for listening to my ramblings and agreeing with me that Nuwa should be a little fucked up and a little weird in all terms that are unholy.

spoilers ahead for anyone that hasn't seen S5 ig

Nuwa in my version is essentially an actual snake in terms of not being capable of feeling the same connections/emotions humans do. She created humans, yes, with the capability of doing things she cannot do. She cannot love someone she can only trust them; she is the person you go to for logic and exchange. She is the same goddess who essentially lead a war to happen and then killed the spirits she sent down herself for "being too cruel".

She's so morally complex she doesn't fall into a kind demeanor. She smiles and it feels like she's more amused and delighted by a situation than she is sympathetic. She's not villainous either because to label as her feels wrong? She's not motherly either which is what icks me the most about the LMK fandom right now when it comes to her. She's a snake! She should be more snake-like imo! She should bite and spit venom or show lack of care towards someone's issues unless they bring something worth her time to look at.

I think the idea of having her create a cycle... is kind of stupid! Why would she care about that? Why would she do that? She seems like the type to watch people die and only intervene when it goes on for too long or when something catches her eye? Why would she do something like start a cycle? I do not know! She's the essence of Life but that doesn't mean Life is warm and welcoming all the time, y'know?

I always pictured her as that horror version of Rose Quartz where she says "we're creating life from nothing" and Fuxi stares at her as the people she creates start wars and bloodshed and conquer people and wonders how long it'll take for one of them to offend her and cause her to make them suffer a little. Gods are funky! They're meant to be intimidating! Even the friendliest of gods are terrifying!

LMK failed in capturing the fact she's a god imo she felt more like.. a mini boss? an aid? she doesn't really have much of an intimidating aura?

TLDR; my version of Nuwa is eldritch and uncanny and highly based off the horror designs of the gods who's not capable of loving her creations because she herself cannot feel love, only a humming beat of trust in the presence of people she 'enjoys' being around

[artemismoorea03]

I Have Theories - Potential LMK Season 5 Spoilers

I have had this theory since Season 3 but Season 4 fueled it and now from the little I have seen of Season 5 it is *twice* as strong. Keep in mind I have not seen Season 5 yet but I will mention spoilers that I have seen so if you don't want to know, don't continue!

Also potential MAA Spoilers because part of MAA is built off of these theories!!!

Alright, for those of you who are on my MAA Discord you guys might have seen me mention my theory before (because I have plenty of them). I have one theory that has to do with the snake character from Season 5 - Xiang Liu I think is his name? But this has to do with MK specifically. Now, unfortunately finding proper sources for Ancient Mythologies is hard especially with AI and shit now popping up a million half-assed things based off of previous searches. So, some of my research is patchy at best, so if I get some things wrong don't be afraid to gently point me in the right direction but also keep in mind Google only gets me so far and LMK has frequently changed things to help better fit the narrative.

Note from here on out everything in quotations is directly from a source! Be it Wiki, the Journey to the West Books, or otherwise!

Now according to the Journey to the West there are Four Celestial Primates.

"The Intelligent Stone Monkey; who knows transformations, recognizes the seasons, discerns the advantages of earth, and is able to alter the course of planets and stars." - This is Wukong for those of you who don't know! :D

"The Red-Buttocked Baboon; who has knowledge of yin and yang, understands human affairs, is adept in its daily life and able to avoid death and lengthen its life."

"The Bare-Armed Gibbon; who can seize the sun and the moon, shorten a thousand mountains, distinguish the auspicious from the inauspicious, and manipulate planets and stars."

then finally, "The Sixth-Eared Macaque; who has a sensitive ear, discernment of fundamental principles, knowledge of past and future, and comprehension of all things." - this is Macaque!

(^ previous quotes all directly from the Journey to the West)

But they are not the only 'monkey's in mythology, in fact there are quite a few! Including the Orangutan King (who online I find referenced as a Snub-Nose instead so again, different sources lead to different results) who is a member of the seven sages and the Macaque King who may or may not be the Six-Eared Macaque but was definitely made that way in LMK!

Another monkey is Pangu (who I call Pen/Pengu in MAA after their rebirth). Now, as already stated multiple times already there are a lot of differences depending on sources! Not to mention different beliefs and religions also have different stories, so I am just going off of what I have found and consistencies within them!

To start Pangu is said to have been born from something called a "Cosmic Egg" on their Wiki page which was formed from the vast nothingness of space! Now, depending on source Pangu was either sent by the Celestial Realm to do what he did next or just decided that he had enough of the Celestial Realm messing with the Earth. Regardless, he took his axe and cut Yin from Yang and as such split the Celestial Realm from the Earth.

Pangu then spent the next 18,000 years pushing the two apart creating the space in between before finally dying and collapsing. After that Pangu turned into everything. The Sun, the Moon, the Mountains everything and anything.

One source (Nüwa's Wiki specifically) suggests that Nüwa and her twin Fuxi were born from Pangu's child, making them Pangu's grandchildren!

Also on Nüwa's page is something of note and another major source for my upcoming theory, a note on Pangu that isn't listed on Pangu's Wiki.

"Pangu was said to be the creation god in Chinese Mythology. He was a giant sleeping within an egg of chaos. As he awoke, he stood up and divided the sky and the earth."

Specifically pay attention to that second line. He was a giant sleeping within an egg of chaos.

Now, what is MK consistently called; Harbinger of Chaos.

Which is exactly what Pangu would have likely been seen as to anybody around when he separated the Heavens and Earth!

Onto my theory now for LMK specifically.

When Nüwa made MK she probably had a plan or a reason. (Again, I haven't seen Season 5 so people might have more clues to support or rip this part). There is no way she would just make a Harbringer of Chaos unless she had a set reason and I suspect that reason had to do with Pangu.

Specifically bringing Pangu back.

From some sources I found they suggest that Pangu was ordered to separate the two to prevent the Celestial Realm from taking advantage of those on Earth. Things that seem to be happening a lot in LMK or seem to be a major concern in LMK. People keep saying there is injustice, that people aren't doing their jobs, that things need to change!

And sometimes the best change comes from chaos itself.

So, I feel that when Pengu's body was sacrificed his soul survived and he was reborn as MK or at least his powers were given to MK so that he could help bring forth a new level of peace to the Realms. An immeasurable amount of power would need a mentor, a brother and somebody who could help teach him how to control it? What better than a Celestial Primate to teach a Primordial Primate?

Wukong - being considered a Celestial after finishing his journey - would be the best choice to raise MK. But Wukong panicked and set MK away to keep him safe - maybe even from himself. He likely wouldn't trust himself with another celestial monkey after he killed Macaque. Not only that but being raised by Pigsy would make sure that MK stayed out of trouble that he was more 'tamed' than Wukong was when he was born and to keep him safe.

He would only come in when MK had accessed his power. Which could be why he was keeping an eye on MK for as long as he had been, then when he picked up the staff Wukong realized he was strong enough and it was time for him to act and train MK.

Now! My spouse just told me that Mac has a kind of power or made some kind of deal with somebody without him knowing it and I have a theory about that too. We saw in Season 1 that Mac can temporary steal and use powers from others. This makes my spouse think that Mac is Pangu's reincarnation but I think that this is only more proof of MK being Pangu.

Why?

Because who in their right mind would give all of Pangu's powers to one creature and then to leave that child with Sun Wukong? I don't think anybody would go with that idea! But I also think that all four Celestial Primates exist to keep the peace, so when Macaque died he would need something else to bring him back. Something more than just a deal with the literal devil (Looking at you LBD!). He would need power. Specifically a power to help him regain and recover his powers.

From what I've found about Pangu from varying sources it implies that as he grew to stretch the space between the two realms he also grew in strength and power. This makes me think that maybe he had a power that allowed him to steal and absorb other powers.

A power that Macaque potentially got from him.

I think MK is Pangu and in the same way Pangu sacrificed himself to bring peace I think MK will have to do the same (clips I've seen kind of support this I think?) But I also think that while MK was born from the same stone as Wukong, he has more in common with Macaque because they share the same source of power.

Again, all a theory and I would love to know if you guys have your own theory or what you think of this one! If you don't wanna leave a comment feel free to chuck a question at me or message me :3 I don't mind!

Sources used for this post:

Journey to the West - Books.

Pangu Wiki: Here

Nüwa Wiki: Here

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oh do you associate ship in a bottle with Mobius? Out of curiosity can you elaborate on why?

This is gonna be a mix of quick character analysis, an actual explanation, and my mental AMV.

The song is about someone who's self-isolating and putting up a strong front as everything falls apart around them. I think it fits Mobius's arc in PE very well.

The singer (who is really talking to themself in second person) started with a hard-earned self-built space, the glass bottle ("glass ceiling, walls, and floor", doesn't that imagery remind you of her lab?). This ship in a bottle was built by their own efforts, as somewhere walled away from pain where they demonstrate high skill— just like Mobius and her lab, which she has earned through her hard work and the subsequent recognition, which also becomes the place where she's respected and, well, where she uses her brains.

In particular, "But nothing can touch your happy thoughts anymore" matches up how confident Mobius is shown to be early on, especially with the "picking apart your brain" image. Despite being widely disliked on a personal level, look at how she's completely dominating the conversation when she recruits MEI into MOTH (Mobius: Good News): Mobius was happy and comfortable with her competence in her line of work. The Honkai wasn't that bad yet, it was a challenge (the "blue waves crashing into it", present but not yet threatening), a humbling challenge but a challenge she was thriving off of, eager to uncover its secrets.

"Pick your brain apart and build it again" can also be seen as building the Elysian Realm, but I'd say at this point in the song that's more foreshadowing. The premise is simply: The ship is Mobius's lab, and her lab is her safe space, where she is respected and content to pursue her work. She has earned this place alone, with her own efforts and skills.

Emphasis on alone and self-made for that second stanza, I think it's fairly evident where the metaphor is getting at once we've established the parallel. She's striving to transcend the gods on her own.

The chorus, however, peels off her mask. Things ARE falling apart. In the first round, I'd picture adult Mobius and her actual child self, the one who was abused and decided to make humanity evolve past the weaknesses of flesh as a result.

If the first few stanza are set early on in the timeline, after the chorus we find ourselves after Klein's death. The singer admits to crying, the water rising (can't cope anymore), the glass protection of their safe space is cracking. The ship is leaking water now, and there are many more that have sunk— despite this, the singer carries on.

For Mobius, things are seriously fucked now, and her demeanor has begun to break down. People leave her, either by dying (Klein) or out of disgust (Nuwa and Fuxi) but she still sets out for her goals. She'll do it even if she has to do it alone. That's how she's always done things, but now she carries the weight of those who can't carry on, too.

I'm not factoring ELF Klein here because 1. obvious the song wasn't written for Mobius, and more importantly 2. Mobius never meant for Klein to follow her all the way, she wanted her to be free. She would've LIKED that, but I don't think she DESIRED it, so she left her behind with the Realm. Mobius is very into "if you love them let them go", and I believe she was always planning to set off alone to an extent...

The song points out the singer is losing what kept them sane, and that's absolutely true for Mobius, she started out playful (some of the time) and became much more sullen and cold after Klein's death.

Then the chorus is back, but this time instead of actual child Mobius, I'd see the Sim talking to the real one, trying to tempt her into committing suicide and letting her be the "real and only" one. Instead of the tethering of denying trauma, it's a beckoning towards the abyss, it's turned malicious...

I could see the final chorus as specifically the background to Mobius's goodbyes and the hologram messages Mobius leaves for her creations.

And in the end, has the sim won...?

As we would later see... no, she didn't. The captain kept sailing on her own. Mobius always had her eyes set no closer than the horizon~

ANYWAY I'm very tired because I did hard things with people all day and woke up stupidly early so I hope this is coherent. Other people feel free to add to this. Would love to see a lyricstuck of this someday... Or hear about other songs people associate with her??

Full song lyrics below the cut~

You can fit everything you know In a bottle for you to show Pick your brain apart and put it in (pick your brain apart) And build it again With needles and pins Everything you have earned is a ship With blue waves crashing into it But nothing can touch your happy thoughts anymore (nothing can touch your happy thoughts anymore) With your glass ceiling, walls, and floor

Sailing on a ship in a bottle Anchor all your thoughts to the bottom Pulling ropes and pulling your head back To see what is breaking the foremast You set sail alone there is no crew No one on the deck who can help you This is all your own battle to win This is your ship and you are the captain

Oh, captain, let's make a deal Where we both say the things that we both really feel I feel scared and I'm starting to sink And I only sink deeper the deeper I think Oh, captain Oh, captain, deal Oh, captain deal Oh, captain deal Oh woah

There are red spots under your eyes From when you cry Into the sky Ocean waters rising above your neck, mmm You feel the glass Start to crack

Sailing on a ship in a bottle Water's leaking through holes in the bottom Flying flags of ships that have long since Sat at the floor of the sea, but in defense You set sail alone there is no crew No one on the deck who can help you This is all your own battle to win This is your ship and you are the captain

Oh, captain, let's make a deal Where we both say the things that we both really feel I feel scared and I'm starting to sink And I only sink deeper the deeper I think Oh, captain, make up your mind Before the salt burns your eyes and you run out of time 'cause you're popping the cork You get lost in your brain And you lose touch with all the things that made you feel sane Oh, captain Oh, captain, deal Oh, captain deal Oh, captain deal Oh woah

Woah-oh-oh-oh-oh Woah-oh-oh-oh-oh Woah-oh-oh-oh-oh

Woah-oh-oh-oh-oh Woah-oh-oh-oh-oh Woah-oh-oh-oh-oh

Oh, captain, let's make a deal Where we both say the things that we both really feel I feel scared and I'm starting to sink And I only sink deeper the deeper I think Oh, captain, make up your mind Before the salt burns your eyes and you run out of time 'cause you're popping the cork You get lost in your brain And you lose touch with all the things that made you feel sane Oh, captain Oh, captain, deal Oh, captain deal Oh, captain deal Oh woah

Woah-oh-oh-oh-oh Woah-oh-oh-oh-oh Woah-oh-oh-oh-oh

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Nüwa, Fuxi, and their Harbingers

Addition to this previous Au/theory about MK's connection to Nüwa and her mate Fuxi.

The Harbinger of Chaos was fated to herald the time when Nüwa's repairs on the Fifth Heavenly Pillar weakened - thusly ending the world.

Nüwa tried for a long long time to prevent the Pillar from weakening - suffering through an innumerable number of Cycles failing at every route.

At the end of each Cycle, a divine chaotic soul needed to willingly offer itself to the Pillar to repair it - a role usually fulfilled by a certain Monkey King or newly hatched soul. But it wasn't a perfect fix. It still lead to the world repeating back to when Nüwa was about to seal herself inside the Pillar to strengthen it.

Until the Cycle just before canon - when Nüwa's mate Fuxi discovered what exactly her Herald was. An unborn child. Furious at his wife for sacrificing even a single innocent soul to the Pillar, Fuxi pushed the intended sacrifice aside and walked into the Pillar himself.

Nüwa sat within the Pillar despairing at her mate's action. She became colder in those centuries, believing that now even her own beloved had rejected her.

But...

For the first time in all the cycles; Fuxi retained memory of the previous timeline.

He immediately makes towards Flower Fruit Mountain, where he knows a Stone Monkey is to be born into a lonely world.

Little Shihou always thought "Elder Shitougushi" was an odd fellow. He was a lot bigger than all the other monkeys, and super old. The elderly teacher rearing the orphaned monkey as his own the moment his tiny yellow limbs broke through his stone shell.

The Elder watched as Shihou became the Matriarch/King of the troop when he was still but a lad. Proudly watching over the troop as they were protected from danger inside the Stone Palace.

But the old monkey knew that he forces of the Underworld would be seeking him out. He was not meant to live as long as he had - only through eating a special fruit his mate had snuck him many eons ago as a sign of friendship.

So before he forced himself into a spiritual hibernation; The Elder told his Little Stone Monkey exactly what he truly was.

With what his mentor and parental figure taught him; Shihou embarked on a Journey to learn. Learn more about the big wide beautiful and terrifying Universe and what it had to offer odd stone-born monkeys like him.

As Fuxi rested in suspension, he dreamt of how much his wife would love the boy. He's not entirely sure if his guidance would change anything this time around, but he knew his Sun wouldn't let this world die quietly.

But he certainly did not anticipate his choices to indirectly cause the Harbinger to be born so early!

Xiangliu has seen many lifetimes, and seeing a version of Wukong who was so... burdened told him that something had changed in the formula. So he awoke the Harbinger as early as he could. Perhaps this new deviance is what he needed to be let back into the Chaos.

Nüwa always expects to see one of her creations at the end of the Cycle. But she had to stop herself from sobbing with frustration and joy at seeing the tiny little primate with her husband's wild chestnut hair before her.

And she chokes up knowing her elder creation had nearly beaten her younger in order to sacrifice himself in the boy's stead.

When MK refuses to let the world be reset back to factory settings, and with his power split the burden of the five coloured stones between all beings in the Three Realms; Nüwa can only smile nostalgically.

Her sons are more like their father than they ever knew.

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My idea with the whole Twin Harbinger thing is that Wukong had been the original Harbinger who sacrificed his life the first cycle when the Pillar broke the second time. That hadn't even been part of Nuwa's plan, it was all Wukong! But it worked. And so the cycles began, with Nuwa experimenting with the cycles and who the Harbinger is each time to try to find a way to truly, finally stop them until she finally created a certain little monkey man we know and love

Ref.

Ooo thank you, I had trouble finding the exact dms when I made the post, but yees; Wukong *chose* to be the Harbinger the first time the Pillar broke.

Hand it to the Havoc of Heaven to literally glitch-out the apocalypse

And Nüwa just kept experimenting. Anything so her and Fuxi's dearest creation wouldn't be trapped in an endless cycle of self-sacrifice.

Namely, she tries influencing other souls into taking Wukong's place.

Like a certain Six Eared Macaque. A Red-buttocked Baboon. A Long-armed Gibbon. All final survivors of other clay species she and Fuxi crafted together long before the Pillar broke and destroyed so much of their work.

But it seemed the little Stone Monkey was the most eager to follow his destiny.

Nüwa seems so cold because she's tired. Tired of losing so much over and over again.

After losing Fuxi in a previous Cycle, Nüwa creates The Harbinger directly from their life energy + Wukong's stone mother. Her intention to either eliviate the burden on Wukong's shoulders, or to stop the cycles once and for all.

MK existing is the loose thread in all of the timelines. :D!

Share more thoughts/dms if you can.

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Bonus thoughts I've had on the"Nüwa & Fuxi being MK (and maybe a little Wukong's) parents" idea

Been bouncing ideas off of @soniclozdplove with these.

Current family Tree is a little complicated:

Summary:

Fuxi and Nuwa created the first Stone Monkeys together and consider their creations akin to children. Despite many tries, they could never bare biological children.

After a few generations; Shihua (reincarnation of celestial Princess Songzi) and Ye Lin marry. After the Fifth Pillar broke, both had assumed the other died in the Great Flood; and chose to sacrifice their bodies to the earth in order to create Stone Eggs that would hatch many years on into newborn Stone Monkeys.

During Shihua's meditation to create her Egg; Nüwa contacted her through astral projection and asked if Shihua (the only soul powerful enough) to carry the soul of Nüwa and Fuxi's unable-to-be-born baby. Shihua accepted her patron Goddess's request with great honour and enthusiasm.

Wukong is spiritually Nüwa and Fuxi's child, but biologically Shihua and Ye Lin's.

After a particularly bad Cycle, Nüwa chose to create her Harbinger in hopes of stopping/elevating the Cycles of Death/Rebirth. Fuxi discovered this and sacrificed himself to spare the innocent soul from such a grim role. This unknowingly allowed Fuxi to retain his memories of the last Cycle, and make his way towards FFM to care for Wukong when he hatched.

In the next (LMK canon) Cycle, Nüwa sadly created the Harbinger from a piece of stone from Wukong's egg = creating who would become MK/Xiaotian. Her and Fuxi's second baby.

Fuxi's influence allowed Wukong to be able to meet MK in this lifetime, and become his mentor. This indirect influence breaks the Cycle for good, accomplishing Nüwa's intended goal without losing either of their children.

The petrified form of Shihua's mate Ye Lin is discovered under FFM after the events of S4 destroyed part of the mountain. And within Ye Lin's body laid Luzhen's unhatched Stone Egg. Luzhen is confirmed through genetic testing to be Wukong's full-blooded brother. Wukong is very confused.

With little Luzhen along for the Journey; the gang decide to seek out the creator of the Stone Monkeys; Fuxi himself, since Nüwa is still supporting the Pillar. When they find him they realise;

Fuxi is a giant ape-monkey-man.

Upon seeing him; Wukong and Macaque exclaim "Elder Shitougushi?!". Apparently the "old monkey" who inspired Wukong to seek out Subodhi all those millennia ago hadn't actually died, but was just running from the Underworld's collectors.

Fuxi looks a disturbing amount like MK's monkey-form...

Turns out Nuwa wasnt the only one who thought to astral project themselves to a royal stone monkey.

Needless to say, Fuxi has A LOT of questions to answer.

+More light-hearted points:

Nüwa's genetics didn't even try with MK. That boy is his daddy's all way around.

Nüwa and Yudi (the Jade Emperor) may or may not be genetic siblings. This is because whilst they were part of the same clan, they lived in a "time where men knew only their mothers and not their fathers" (ty Xiran Zhao for this quote). So it was just easier to assume the other familiar snake was a sibling than not.

When Nüwa allied herself with a group of rebellious demons in the time of "The Three Sovereigns and Five Emperors", she was punished by being banished to the Earth she and her allies had fought so viciously for.

Despite their rocky relationship, the Jade Emperor hadn't the heart to execute his sister. She had been the one to introduce him to his wife after all.

Fuxi is a really private monkey-man, and this accidentally caused confusion among mortal storytellers on exactly who he was. Hard to get concrete info on the Father of Invention when he's a literal slippery bigfoot. A few saw Nüwa beside a fellow snake person (a much younger Jade Emperor) and assumed that was her husband Fuxi. When the not-yet-emperor tried to say "dude, thats my sister" the storytellers doubled down and assumed something "Greek Mythology" was going on. Nüwa and Fuxi won't stop laughing about this mistake in between the disgusted retching.

Whenever something unexpected and/or chaotic happens on Earth; the Jade Emperor mutters his sister's name cus it's usually her doing.

You know how MK has a crippling phobia of spiders? Well... spiders are Fuxi's fave animal. He literally learned how to make one of the first fishing nets from watching a spider spin a web. He just thinks they're neat. :3

I love this odd family <3

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The idea is something that works best when paired with stone matriarch but works well enough on its own, with Nuwa and Fuxi being Wukong and MK's sole creators. Essentially the idea is that Wukong's egg was the last of the Stone Monkey eggs crafted by Nuwa and Fuxi before the Pillar broke, so in a desperate attempt to ensure the survival of the last of their 'children' (they considered all the stone monkeys and clay animals their own children in the same manner Wukong consideredqll monkies his children) Nuwa maaay have... poured more energy and power into this particular soul than was strictly necessary. Thus why our favorite stone monkey was so overpowered even as a cub.

The events of the book play out, mostly the way it was written, but at the end of the books, when it came time for LMK to happen... there was no MK. No Tang, Pigsy, Mei, and Sandy either, at least not in the same way they were before. To them, Wukong was a legend and a hero and, most importantly, a stranger who they probably just helped once or twice, and in turn, they got saved by him once or twice during that first cycle. They didn't have MK to bridge the gap between the legend and the real person for them, and Wukong wouldn't have had any reason to seek out his former brother's decendants outside of getting the Ring of the Samhadi Fire from Mei, which might not even be necessary depending on how things went the first cycle. They Brotherhood attack went... terrible, but Wukong had managed it in thay first cycle because of Yellow Tusk's intervention, but not without major lasting damage beyond what they saw the first time. Tusk absolutely lost his life helping him in that endeavor. Then the Pillar Breaks. And Wukong somehow, by some godforsaken reason, decides that after he discovers the temples of Nuwa and how she had sacrificed herself... that the best thing to do would be to follow in her footsteps. He was 7 times immortal, the Great Sage Equal to Heaven, and had lived longer than anyone ever had any right to live... out of everyone, he was the best option for this suicidal mission.

Wukong sacrificed himself. And time reset. Nuwa was left in shock and grief over her favorite of her children, the one who was the most like her, sacrificing so much until she got her bearings and realized exactly what had happened. So she tried to experiment. Her goal, upon realizing it was a cycle, was to stop them. Or at least make it so Wukong would not be one burdened, anything to spare her child really since, like any mother, she wanted to protect Wukong. So she began experimenting, using her chaotic powers, but with each cycle... with each time she had to watch her child sacrifice himself again and again while her attempts to find a suitable replacement or stop the cycle herself fell short, the more weary she became.

When Fuxi learned of her plan to create a golem, a copy of Wukong's own soul with the same abilities and powers specifically to take his place, he stood against his mate. He did not approve of the idea of bringing a child into this world just to die for the sake of their sibling. It was beyond cruel and not at all like the goddess he had first fallen in love with when she had shyly asked him to help her with her work. By that point, Nuwas was so world weary she was unwilling or unable to consider an alternative. Desperation can do that.

Fuxi found one. If his son can sacrifice himself to a cycle, why not him!? So he takes Wukong's place, unknowingly putting himself in the perfect position to make it so he'd remember the next cycle. With the loss of her mate, Nuwa was finally completely broken down. She became the Order oriented goddess we met in LMK, who lost all the will to fight against the cycle and simply thought it was as it must be. Then Fuxi, Wukong, and MK surprised her one last time with Fuxi stepping into Wukong's life for the first time, raising him from cubhood, and inadvertently putting him on the path to one day meet MK who will eventually become the one who finally stopped the cycle because of Wukong's teachings

Referencing both these posts.

You explain it much better than I can rn, especially since it was like midnight when I made the previous two posts.

If Nüwa represents Chaos forced into Order, than her husband Fuxi is Choice.

And both major decisions he makes in the "canon" timeline; Sacrificing himself to spare the unborn Harbinger, and Raising the future Monkey King into a kind mentorly soul - changes the world for the better.

I imagine everyone would be a little confused why a big Sasquatch man is cry-hugging the equally overjoyed Monkey King. And why he looks a lot like MK??

Also the hilarity of Wukong and MK's partial creators having their own separation arc hurts so good. Maybe some Shadowpeach parelles? :3

I love this idea we got going on <3

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The seven successors of Nüwa

Nuo: Did you meet a boy!? Wow our Flower is already growing!!

Lulli: I bet he's someone handsome!

Yijun: It is from here?! do we know him?

Flor: – without understanding why they get like that –.

thank you @icelordofwinterandwendigos for the names.