#Light Heavyweight Division

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08122009 - A HOT PLEASURE! DANNY MCINTOSH scoring his RIGHT UPPERCUTS against the FACE of NATHAN CLEVERLY on July 18, 2009(?). Very Obvious Manhood Pain on Cleverly's Face! In the 7th Round, the Fight was stopped with the decision going to Cleverly (BoxRec Info). 101423

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Beterbiev Triumphs in Epic Clash: Undisputed Light Heavyweight Crown Secured

Artur Beterbiev- When Undisputed is Still Disputed

By: Addison Keeley

EXPRESSED VIEWS DISCLAIMER. Any views, thoughts, and opinions expressed by the Author are solely that of the Author and do not necessarily reflect the views, opinions, policies, or position of Frontproof Media

This past Saturday exhibited one of boxing's most sought-after bouts in recent memory, as unified champion Artur Beterbiev met fellow champion Dmitry Bivol for undisputed light heavyweight supremacy. Both Beterbiev and Bivol have been champions since 2017. They had possession of the four belts for five years when Beterbiev stopped then-undefeated and unified champion Oleksandr Gvozdyk. The fight had plenty of time to marinate, especially when politics that have nothing to do with boxing caused the fight to be denied last year. Another unfortunate delay occurred when the injury-prone Beterbiev suffered a torn right meniscus early this year when the fight was finally agreed to. 

With all the setbacks out of the way, the two light heavyweight kings met and established a quick, complicated pace from the start. Many people felt that Bivol could snag the first three rounds with his superior hand speed, in-and-out skills, and occasional flurries. Yet, Beterbiev implemented himself in spurts throughout those rounds, most notably in a flashy exchange concluding round three. Following the next three rounds, Beterbiev could maintain and build upon that momentum he found at the end of round three, as he started to walk Bivol back and land with his straight and looping shots. 

With the fight even in the eyes of many at this point, round seven was an interesting one and perhaps the most competitive overall in this closely contested bout. Towards the end of it, Bivol was able to hurt Beterbiev with a right hand, just to get hurt by a counter left hook when trying to capitalize, which prompted Beterbiev to tee off until the bell sounded. 

Bivol seemed to gain a second wind in the eighth and ninth rounds as he stepped on the gas and put some eye-catching combinations together. However, the pace throughout the fight seemed to have more of an effect on Bivol than on the other way around, as Beterbiev was able to pick up the pressure, making Bivol uncomfortable with his aggression and shot selection. In fact, Beterbiev sweeping these three rounds on all three of the judge's scorecards is what earned him this monumental win.

Throughout the fight, both participants showed class and IQ in a thrilling clash that showed exactly why they had been on top for so long. Boxing does not often provide the fans a super fight that manages to get the reception this one did, especially considering how expectations can be easily missed. 

Regardless of the praise the fight earned by many for its display of pedigree, drama, and ebbs and flows, controversy has managed to overshadow or completely negate it in the eyes of many. After coming up short in a majority decision loss, many fans and pundits feel that Dmitry Bivol should have been crowned the undisputed champion. 

Notably, many fans cited all the missing things that Beterbiev had done, yet seemingly refused to acknowledge all the times that Bivol had connected on Beterbiev's gloves and arms when letting go of his flurries. The same fans also acknowledge the flashy shots that Bivol connected with but do not seem to acknowledge Beterbiev's, despite them being the more damaging of the two. On top of this, the pace of the fight seemed to have more of an effect on Bivol than Beterbiev. 

For as many fans dissatisfied with the result, there are just as many, if not more, that can see a case for victory being made for either guy or a draw. That being said, the most fortunate part about the competitiveness and the result alike is there is a solid chance that we fans will be treated to a rematch between Beterbiev and Bivol.

Featured Photo: Queensbury Promotions

[saltnsugarbear]

I'm forever black-eyed, a product of a broken home

summary: boxer!lip gallagher headcanons and foundation building <3

title from: "Black-Eyed" by Placebo

word count: 1.4k

content warnings: I mean, like boxing is an aggressive sport so, she gets dirty at the end so MDNI!!!, choking kink mention, cumplay mentioned

side note: was originally soft and world building and doing research for boxing but,,,,, olive politely ruined all those thoughts

just some simple thoughts to begin! to test the waters!

-a middleweight boxer, just to begin. on a good week he could qualify for light heavyweight but he's properly enrolled in the middeweight division

-which just, is no commentary on JAW, however doing some looking into and looking for the general weight of a healthy 5'7" man puts him somewhere in the middleweight/barely light heavyweight division. but if we consider the Gallagher household income and diet they probably have, Lip is 100% in the middleweight division

-Lip is most well known for his jabs and uppercuts, his style is very agressive

-he's also known for taking a heavy beating in just about every fight he has.

-carl was big into Rambo, constantly playing First Blood when he could. so he naturally tried to see if any of Stallone's movies where similar. Lip was somehow enamored with Rocky when they borrowed it from the library.

-Carl didn't love Rocky like at all lmao, he wanted more fighting in there. Debbie loved Rocky and Adrian's relationship, she thinks they're adorable and romantic.

-This idea hinges on Lip being more aggressive in high school, getting into a lot more fights. This might be due to bullying or just being an overall aggressive kid with little dog syndrome

-At a certain point he's threatened with juvie and or foster care or he can put his anger into something more productive. Lip chose the latter.

-Kevin suggests boxing and even offers to help teach him if he wanted

-he does that thing that boys do where he thinks he can do it all by himself because he watched a movie about it a few times (he's seen every Rocky movie he can get his hands on)

-however jumping right into boxing is much harder than he thought it would be (surprise!) (dummy /affectionate)

-Lip is out of shape, has smokers lungs, and just,,,,, does not know how to throw a proper punch lmao

-so the first day at the gym he's dying

-soooo he goes to Kevin with his tail between his legs and begs him to teach him how to box

-now Kevin is FIT like

-like FIT.

-and Kevin is more than happy to help train Lip

-so through out high-school he spends his free time at the gym after he's done his homework and the work of kids who have paid him

-he gets fit, builds some muscle, adopts a slightly healthier diet

-once he's in college he gets a slightly less regimented schedule due to being out of the house

-he gets a little out of shape, doesn't do as many workouts and sparing matches as he should

-so when he drops out of college he goes back starts getting back into shape to actually start fighting!!

-sigh not to bring back Patsy's reader but like you probably work at Patsy's or maybe the Alibi Room??? some where he and his family frequent a lot!

-and he's just kind of like,,,, a little punk who wants your attention so bad lowkey cause like

-you mind your business! nice, respectful, keeps to themselves

-what he doesn't know is you're so drawn to him cause you've been watching the muscled guy dote on his baby brother and his sister and his other brother

-but also he's a punkass!!

-so you eventually entertain him and go on dates with him and he's

-yeah he's cocky about his stats but he's also just so sweet

-he starts doing fights for money a little before you guys start dating

-uses half his fighting earnings for his family, the other half he's got his own squirrel fund going

-when you guys are dating, he uses that other half to spoil you <3

-this next one is from Maggie's brain but I love it

-watching him during training, when he doesn't really need to wear his gloves, and seeing him send people flat to the ground is,,,,

-mind boggling, as his partner

-because you know that those hands are soft and loving

-just that morning, he was holding your face softly and memorizing each detail he could get his fingers on

-the night before, his hands were firm but soft on your thighs

-so seeing him knock grown men flat is mind boggling anddddd I mean you can guess right?

-turns you on a little bit that's what I'm getting at

-whenever olive comes in it becomes a whore house 🙄 (SO AFFECTIONATE I LOVE YOU OLIVE AND YOUR DIRTY MIND THANK YOU THANK YOU)

-olive thinks boxer lip has a choking kink and she would be correct

-which feeds into her bicep kink whatever whatever we love her

-fucking him in the locker room after good fight and he's not super busted up (you guys seen what Rocky looks like? busted eyelids and shit) (not lip, he's gonna have a bruise and a little cut be he's okay <3)

-he's very sweaty and very pent up and running off the adrenaline of the fight and winning

-also wearing his boxing shorts around!! just comfy clothes

-but we was talking about him fucking you in his robe which is very KVE of him *I've not seen Iron Claw I'm just saying what I've seen from the girlies

-I just think he kind of loves seeing Gallagher painted across your shoulders (or even your ass if he's got it on his shorts)

-but also he would have like a fun stage name guys what do we think his stage name would be

-like The Italian Stallion fucks like Rocky Balboa ate with that

-but he could also just be Lip

-Lip 🥰 in the blue corner <3

-whereas 🥵The Italian Stallion🥵 in the red corner?

-idk help guys

-anyways boxer lip has some CRAZY stamina

-like

-like CRAZY stamina

-you think you're ready to conk out after two rounds? yeah well Lips not so

-but he's soso sweet about it

-I'm back I've done some research and my idea works, walk with me

-this man is horny, we all know that like

-like he's HORNY

-anyways he goes like

-like crazy

-he's got one of your legs up over his shoulder, the other pressed up against his side where it's wrapped around his middle

-he has already made you come twice and your thirds on the way

-the squelching as he fucks you is pornographic, and he fucking loves it

-you simply cannot think, he's kept you teetering on the edge of overstimulation but all you can focus on is the feeling of him fucking into you, his shoulder flexing under your leg

-and he's being soso sweet cooing in your ear, telling you how good you feel, how he's going to fill you up so nice and you just need to go one more round with him after cause he wants to make sure you remember him before he fights later

-your third orgasm is what draws out Lip's first orgasm

-he's really gentle about how he rolls his hips into you, you can feel the mixture of both your release slipping out of you

-he's pressing soft, soft kisses to your face, telling you how good you are and how you feel just sooo good

-you can feel his cock twitch inside of you and the slow beginnings of him getting hard again

-and he's just being so

-"Come on baby, just need one more from ya" "Gonna let me fill you one more time?" "gotta make sure it sticks baby" "Wanna make sure you remember me when I'm up in the ring"

-and who are you to deny his soft pleas

-HELP WAIT GUYS GUYS

-so like after he reaches his second orgasm inside of you and he pulls out, he cannot stop looking at where the mix of you release slips out of you

-and he's hard again this punk

-but, you're just so sleepy and so floaty

-so Lip gets himself off above you, fucking himself into his hand using both of your guys cum as a lubricant

-anyways blah blah, he paints your tummy in his cum, it reaches just under your chest and this feeds into the marking thing he's got

-someone stop this man he's tooooo horny

-anyways he cleans you up (collects the cum he can and slips it into you, pushing it softly into you with his fingers, trying to keep the rest of your release from slipping out even more)

-but as you're drifting off, he makes sure to clean you up, dress you back in some cozy sleep clothes

-boxer lip the beloved

[theanticool]

Cem Caceres KOs Stefan Latescu in the 1st round with a left hook to the body - Glory 94

Big KO in the light heavyweight division

[cartermagazine]

Today In History

Muhammad Ali was born on January 17, 1942, in Louisville, Kentucky. His birth name was Cassius Marcellus Clay Jr.

At an early age, young Clay showed that he wasn’t afraid of any bout—inside or outside of the ring.

At the age of 12, Clay discovered his talent for boxing through an odd twist of fate. After his bike was stolen, Clay told police officer Joe Martin that he wanted to beat up the thief. “Well, you better learn how to fight before you start challenging people,” said Martin.

Clay started working with Martin to learn how to spar and soon began his boxing career. In his first amateur bout in 1954, he won the fight by split decision. Clay went on to win the 1956 Golden Gloves tournament for novices in the light heavyweight class. Three years later, he won the National Golden Gloves Tournament of Champions, as well as the Amateur Athletic Union’s national title for the light heavyweight division.

In 1960, Clay won a spot on the U.S. Olympic boxing team and traveled to Rome to compete. After winning his first three bouts, Clay defeated Zbigniew Pietrzkowski of Poland to win the light heavyweight Olympic gold medal.

After his Olympic victory, Clay was heralded as an American hero. He soon turned professional and continued overwhelming all opponents in the ring. In 1964 Clay’s victory over Liston earned him his first world heavyweight boxing championship.

The next morning, on February 26, Clay announced his affiliation with the Nation of Islam, and his name became Muhammad Ali.

Muhammad Ali started a different kind of fight with his outspoken views against the Vietnam War, and in his retirement, Ali devoted his time to philanthropy around the world. In 1998 he was the United Nations Messenger of Peace, and in 2005 Ali received the Presidential Medal of Honor.

Ali also received the President’s Award from the NAACP in 2009 for his public service efforts.

“Truly great people in history never wanted to be great for themselves.” - Muhammad Ali

CARTER Magazine

[archivalofsins]

So, that last minigram huh?

Kotoko continuing to be unable to take what she dishes out is adorable without question. To celebrate the continuation and the use of portal timeline interactions in another minigram-

I wanna take a moment to discuss that and how martial arts is handled in the portal timeline too!

Transcript of official translation of Minigram EP51 "Mixed Martial Arts Competition Part 2"

[51-1] Kotoko: You're a martial arts guy right, Kazui? Kotoko: What do you do? Judo? Mahiru: What's wrong Mikoto? Kazui: Why do you wanna know all of a suddent? nervous Mikoto: If the battle starts here, I'll have nightmares about it. Mikoto: Who is stronger...? Last episode [51-2] Kazui: Uhh. Kazui: I mainly do judo and kendo(Japanese fencing). Kazui: And a bit of karate. Kazui: You also have some experience in combat sports right? Kazui: I can tell. Kazui: Hm... Kazui: It involves punching and kicking... Kazui: But I don't think it's karate... Kotoko: ...! Kazui: Is it taekwondo? Kotoko: I'm not telling you. Kotoko: Stop staring at me you pervert. Kazui: Is.. Kazui: Isn't that a bit unfair...?

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Does Kotoko in the last panel remind anyone else of another prisoner?

I guess playing investigator/hero is only fun when when she the only one doing the watching right?

They’re still here, still here, it grates me.

The difference between this in and the portal timeline interaction is that more prisoners have been included. Mahiru and Mikoto. Two people who had already deduced that Kazui and Kotoko had some martial arts knowledge.

Since this is following up from Minigram EP50 "Mixed Martial Arts Competition Part 1" where Mikoto asks who would win between Kazui and Kotoko in a fight.

[50-1] Mikoto: By the way- Mikoto: Who is stronger between Koto-chan and Kazu? Mikoto: Both of them do martial arts, right? Kotoko: If we go head to head, I'd think Kazui. Futa: Of course it would be. Futa: Don't ask such a stupid question. Futa: Women can't beat men in martial arts. Futa: This isn't a manga. Futa: Body size makes a big difference. step step Futa: How hard you hit is dependent on your body weight Futa: You don't understand. [50-2] Kotoko: Futa does have a point. squeak Kotoko: The fact that many martial arts have weight divisions means that it makes much of a difference. Kotoko: I would be bantamweight and he would be cruiserweight or heavyweight. Kotoko: But... snap Kotoko: I would at least break one of his arms. sst Kotoko: ... So when do we fight?

Maybe we'll get to see Mahiru and Kazui's timeline conversation from 20/06/19 turned into a minigram as well.

20/06/19 Kazui: By the way…… thanks, Shina-chan. You keep going around and talking to people to make sure the mood never gets too sour, right? It’s a big help. We’re all in here together, after all. If a fight broke out, the whole group could fall apart. Mahiru: ……eh? Huh~? Ah, no, I’m just talking to people because I personally want to talk. All the kids are so cute, so I can’t help but want to fuss over them! A fight, huh… But if that ever happened, then you’ll definitely be a big help, right~? Since you’re so big! And buff! Kazui: Ahh, no. I mean, I’ll do what I can. Based on appearance, as long as nobody has a weapon, I think I can probably get everyone under control…… No, we should just hope that nothing like that ever happens. Mahiru: You know, I quite like watching martial arts, actually. I don’t really get it, but it looks super cool. Hi-yah! Hi-yah!

The changes made in the minigram could be to give a more cohesive narrative to those moments. Mikoto, asks Kotoko who's tougher which causes her to get intrigued as well wanting to test her strength, she asks Kazui what martial arts he knows to see if he's a worthy opponent. This leads to Kazui getting nervous assuming this means she's going to try to fight him. Which could lead into him thanking Mahiru for always trying to keep the atmosphere light afterwards and she just explains she has fun talking to everyone.

But let's hop into the interesting thing. Considering the focus on strength and martial arts I decided to look over the timeline interactions involving them. they're interesting to say the least.

Here's the first one to mention martial arts-

20/05/30 Mahiru: Hey, Kotoko-chan. There’s something that’s really been bugging me, so do you mind if I ask? ……how do you style yourself so well? Have you always dressed like that? But it also looks like something you’d wear for training. Do you play sport? Ah, or maybe some kind of martial arts? Kotoko: ……you really are carefree. Everyone in here is a “murderer” right? Is this really the time to be asking questions like that? Mahiru: Hmm, I guess so. That’s what they said. But nobody here seems particularly scary or anything, right? If I had to pick someone, then maybe you’re the scariest! Ah, wait, do you do like yoga or something? Kotoko: ……I can’t tell if you’re making fun of me or are just an airhead.

The second is you guessed it the interaction between Mahiru and Kazui. Wow Mahiru certainly is good at picking out people who know martial arts in a casual way.

The third one is Kotoko's interaction with Kazui,

20/07/09 Kotoko: Kazui, you do martial arts, right? ……what type? Judo? Kazui: Ah, my main is…… judo, and kendo. I also know a little bit of karate. You must have some martial arts experience too, right, Yuzuriha-chan? I can tell by looking. Hmm… probably a combat type…… I’m guessing not karate…… is it taekwondo? Kotoko: ……I’m not telling you. Stop ogling me like that. It’s gross. Kazui: I-isn’t that a bit unfair?

Then the conversation between Mikoto, Kotoko, and Futa.

20/08/03 Mikoto: By the way, Koto-chan. Who’s stronger between you and Kazu-san? You both know martial arts, right? Kotoko: ……if it was a fair one-on-one fight, probably Kazui. Futa: Isn’t that obvious? What a stupid question. There’s no way a girl could win in a fight against a man. This is real life, not a manga. There’s too big a difference in body size. And that’s what determines the weight of your attacks. Kotoko: ……Futa’s not entirely wrong there. In a lot of martial arts, they specifically split up divisions based on body weight for that reason. I’m bantam, and he’d probably be either cruiser or heavy. Well, I’d still break an arm or two though.

The funniest thing about looking over the Portal Timeline interactions in contrast to how the minigram portrays this is-

Well to realize that Kazui never told anyone he did martial arts until he was directly asked by Kotoko. Kotoko and Mahiru both just assumed from how he was built that he did some sort of martial arts. A conclusion they would have come to by oggling the man.

Now Mahiru doesn't hide that she's eyeing up the every adult men in Milgram at all-

20/06/08 Mahiru: Shidou-san…… you’re really good-looking. Personally I think you’d be better if you ate a bit more, but you’re slim and tall, and well put together to boot…… You must’ve been super popular up until now, right? Shidou: ……yeah, that’s true…… I did my share of fooling around in the past. Mahiru: Oh~? That’s not the sort of answer I’d expect from you. I’ve got it! Somebody told you that if you replied like that people wouldn’t resent you so much, right? Shidou: Haha, I’m surprised you guessed. ……it seems that no matter what guise I put on, it’s meaningless against a woman’s insight.

So, it's not much of a surprise that she would make this sort of observation about Kazui. Hell, I'm not even faulting it.

Q.05  Who do you dislike most out of the other prisoners? Mahiru: Futa-kun is a bully, so definitely out! Also Mikoto is pretty flippant, he kinda seems like the type who’d cheat~

If she's trying to use Milgram to find a new boyfriend all the more power to her. Yet, it is again very hilarious that from how the timeline presents it the only reason Kotoko came to the conclusion that Kazui did a martial arts was because she was in her own words ogling him.

Kotoko: ……I’m not telling you. Stop ogling me like that. It’s gross.

What about you, Kotoko?!

Putting this look to the side. Which out of context and in context is not good cosidering the deifnition of the term ogle.

Kazui never told anyone that he did a martial art until he was expressedly asked by Kotoko. The only way that anyone would draw the conclusion that he did is by looking at him (possibly alot). Plus we already know that Kotoko has been keeping an eye on all the prisoner and even more stuff since the release of Deep Cover.

Sorry to go into semantics but yeah what Kotoko did in this minigram is the definition of ogling and is presented as such visually as well as contexually. So, makes sense why they'd have her call him a pervert instead of having her say to stop ogling her like she did before. Having her say that would highlight the double standard here a bit too much.

Despite Kotoko not even answering Kazui when he asks why she's inquiring about this in the overtly menacing way that she is. He still answers her question earnestly. Then when he asks her what martial arts she does to continue the conversation and give her the opportunity to have a reciprocal conversation she just shuts it down by calling him a pervert in the minigram and implying he's one in the original portal timeline by saying he's ogling her.

Him saying that's a bit unfair is rather reasonable. Because that's what it is unfair. He told her what martial arts he does the least she could do is continue the conversation she started and answer the same question she had the audacity to ask.

But while we're still on the topic of martial arts-

Why the fuck are Mahiru and Mikoto so good at telling who does martial arts? It makes sense for Kazui and Kotoko. Also Mahiru admits to being interested in martial arts to Kazui. So, that somewhat explains that. Yet, with Mikoto it's a bit surprising. Given he says that he hates violence.

Q.06 What do you hate? Mikoto: working overnight / reptiles / violence

Well just because he hates violence doesn't mean he can't recognize those capable of being violent or even that he won't use violence himself. It just means he hates it.

Still why is that a skill Mahiru or Mikoto would ever need to the point of being comfortable enough to surmise that two of the prisoners here do it? While also being stunningly correct. Mikoto could have overheard any of the other timeline interractions and just been making small talk though.

Since his talk happens after all the others. Still the fact that four people in this prison are possibly really good at surmising if someone does martial arts by looking at them alone is kind of impressive and terrifying.

This is just some interesting stuff that the new minigram got me thinking about. It's really interesting to see how the staff is incorporating the portal timeline interactions into the minigrams. I can't wait to see what they do with the others from trial one.

[blowflyfag]

WORLD WRESTLING ENTERTAINMENT/FEDERATION MAGAZINE: February 1994

interview 

Marty Jannetty

Marty is currently trying to make the transition from lighting-fast SST to powerful, indestructible Sherman tank.

Considered one of the top guns in the airborne division of the World Wrestling Federation, high-flier Marty Jannetty appears to be on the rise again. Possessing aerial tactics better even than Tom Cruise’s Maverick, Jannetty is eagerly looking to regain something he lost a few months ago: the Intercontinental Championship. 

To better compete with the heavyweights that now roam the Federation, Jannetty has completely altered his training regime. He currently is trying to make the transition from lightning-fast SST to powerful, indestructible Sherman tank. We recently caught up with him in a local gym where he was working out in an effort to add some metal to his frame. 

Editors: You made your mark as a part of one of the greatest tag teams of all time: the Rockers. Now you’ve achieved a certain standard as a singles wrestler. Which do you prefer?

Jannetty: At one time tag team wrestling was my favorite because there was a lot more action. However, looking back, I probably felt that way because I tag team wrestled all the time. Now wrestling singles–and feeling the glory of being the Intercontinental Champion–has changed my mind. I really enjoy the singles competition, but that doesn’t mean i wouldn’t go back to tag team if i found the right partner. Of course, after Shawn Michaels, I have my doubts about tagging with someone. 

Editors: In what way do you feel the mental preparation is different between a tag team match and a singles match?

Jannetty: In tag team, you have to prepare for two different opponents using two different strategies. You also must be in complete coordination with your partner. In singles, you concentrate on one opponent, and you primarily do your own thing. The pace is altogether different.

Editors: You mentioned earlier that you would consider getting back into tag team wrestling if you found the right partner. If you had to choose a partner today, whom would you pick?

Jannetty: I have somebody in mind for maybe later on down the road, but I don’t want to let the cat out of the bag just yet. I don’t want to give any potential opponents an opportunity to prepare for us.

[“My new attitude is fight fire with fire. If that’s the way they want to play the game, I’ll play the game that way.”]

Editors: In your opinion, which is the best tag team in the World Wrestling Federation today?

Jannetty: I’d have to say the Steiner Brothers. They’re in excellent shape and possess the most skillful moves. They also have a tremendous wrestling background, and they’re brothers. This enables them to think alike, which is very important in tag team wrestling. 

Editors: Let’s talk about singles wrestling now. You had a taste of the gold when you captured the Intercontinental Belt last year. Was this your greatest achievement in the ring?

Jannetty: At this point I would have to say it is, but I’m not through yet. I certainly plan on reaching that goal again and then going even further. Everyone’s ultimate goal is to be the Federation Champion.

Editors: You lost the belt only a few days after winning it. How did it feel to be at the top of the mountain, only to be knocked off so quickly?

Jannetty: I didn’t lose it; I was robbed. When I beat him, it was Shawn against Marty. When he defeated me, it was Shawn and Diesel against Marty. Michaels didn’t beat me. Diesel won that match for him.

Editors: Speaking of Diesel, many monstrous heavyweights have recently entered the Federation. Do you feel that your style of wrestling will be enough to put you past them?

Jannetty: To be quite honest, I’m going to have to put on a little size and get a lot meaner. That’s why I’ve been working out. I’ve been strictly trying to wrestle these guys, and that’s not going to work. I have to forget wrestling and take on the attitude that these guys have, and that is to win at any cost.

Editors: Is this why you’ve been picking on guys like Bastion Booger and Adam Bomb?

Jannetty: That’s right. Sitting around and messing with guys that aren’t the big, bad ones isn’t going to get me anywhere.

Editors: Have you ever considered hiring a manager to help guide you?

Jannetty: You know, in the past I would, but my new attitude is fight fire with fire. If that’s the way they want to play the game, I’ll play the game that way. This big ego of not having to play their game isn’t getting me anywhere. 

Editors: Let’s switch to a lighter subject. A lot of your fans may not realize this, but you dedicate a great deal of your time to charity work. Tell us about that.

Jannetty: Yeah, let’s lighten things up. Over the past few months, I’ve done some work with the Blindness Foundation, the Special Olympics and a few other organizations around the country. I also did the Jerry Lewis Telethon, which was the biggest fund-raiser I’ve ever done. I always welcome the opportunity to do charity work; it’s very important to me.

Editors: Any last words for the fans of the World Wrestling Federation?

Jannetty: The future is there for me. You keep repeating the fact that I am trying to get back on top. It’s not a matter of trying to; I’m going to. I’ll be champion again.

[EDITOR’S NOTE: AFTER THIS INTERVIEW, MARTY INTIMATED THAT HE’D BE READY TO TAKE ON THE LIKES OF EVANDER HOLYFIELD AFTER A FRE MORE MONTH OF HIS NEW TRAINING REGIME.]

[the-history-of-fighting]

Top: Muhammad Ali & Zbigniew Pietrzykowski of Poland after Ali won their bout in the 1960 Olympic finals in Rome in the light heavyweight division.

Bottom: The two are collecting their medals along with Giulio Saraudi (Italy) and Anthony Madigan (Australia) who both came joint third.

historyoffighting.com

[architect-2015]

Redesign, Rebuild, Reclaim

PART 1

Seth Rollins and Kynlee Lockwood were on top of the world circa 2015, champions, the faces of the company. The world heavyweight champion and the divas champion were untouchable with The Authority in their corner, until Seth’s knee gave out. Kynlee made her leave from the company during this time, no longer feeling she got the respect she deserves but what happens when Seth returns to fight Hunter and the odds need to be evened?  

(some events in this will not be timeline accurate)

Being a part of The Authority was never easy so after Seth tore his right ACL, MCL and medical meniscus lets just say things were never the same. Kynlee valued the time she had previously spent by the World Heavyweight Champion’s side, dominating the men's and women's respective divisions so when he was no longer around the champ had lost motivation... she was being scheduled in matches against the likes of Eva Marie and Alicia Fox most of them not lasting longer then 5 minutes, this ultimately left her to take an indefinite leave of absence from the company. 

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MONDAY NIGHT RAW - February 15th 2016

(103 days since Seth’s injury)

Walking down to the ring to the beat of her entrance theme accompanied by an overwhelming light display with the Diva’s title clasped around her waist, a microphone in her hand and a void expression on her face Kynlee only had one thing on her mind... Change.

“Cut my music!”

Whispers and low mumbles of confusion emit from the crowd, normally if the Divas champ was in the ring The Authority would be hot on her heels so to say this was unusual is an understatement. 

“I know a lot of you will be confused as to why I'm here and normally I would be standing here boasting about my position with this title belt around my waist but tonight's different. You see for the last couple of months things haven't been right, I no longer feel valued in this company for the talent I hold and the revenue I bring to this business so it is in my best interest to cut my losses and leave before I can be buried like many other women in this roster and the wrestling world. We are not valued for the amount of work we put in to this job because most of us don't get more than five minutes of air time.”

“I was naïve enough to believe in joining The Authority I would be able to showcase my talent and help others on the roster during our matches together,  but it took my best friend’s knee caving in to realise even though I'm at the highest point I can be in my career things don't always improve they can get worse. Seth... just know that me leaving isn't me abandoning you, when you return you will continue to defy odds and win back the title you never lost and I will be there cheering you on every step of the way, you will continue your story but unfortunately for me... mine ends here.”

“I lay down my title in hope that one day the women's division is respected and valued just as much as the men’s because we deserve it, The WWE has a platform to showcase the talent of women and changes need to be made for the benefit of the amazing ladies behind that curtain and the business”

Dropping the mic to the floor and placing the pink and silver butterfly belt in the middle of the ring, Kynlee begins her ascend back up the ramp, never once turning back but her strong façade falters for the first time that night. 

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EXTREME RULES 2016 - Newark, New Jersey

Its been three months since the departure of Kynlee Lockwood and change has  definitely been made since then. The Authority had disbanded in April. The Diva’s title has since been retired and a triple-threat match had been held at WrestleMania 32 to crown Charlotte as the inaugural WWE Women’s Champion. Roman Reigns had defeated Triple H to win the WWE World Heavyweight Championship.

One thing hadn't changed and that was the return of Seth Rollins.

Seth’s POV

“Hey, how are you?” 

The sweet southern twang travelled through my private trailer as Kynlee stepped through the door.

“I’m good, just got cleared for tonight still got some swelling but nothing on the joint so. Mentally I'm still preparing I mean there's only the cage match, the women’s and then main event” 

Kynlee’s hand reached out to hold mine and I felt at ease with the subtle touch, she brought me a kind of comfort that cannot be found anywhere else but with her, within her arms and under the soft gaze of her eyes. I didn't know the extent of this warm feeling that had protected me in the months of my rehab. Could it be love? True unconditional love?  I had no doubt that without her I wouldn't have the opportunity to return to my passion as quick as I did, she was my motivation.

Kynlee’s POV

 “Why don’t you come back with me, We could do it all again I mean no one’s done it as good as we did, as good as you.” 

Staring into his deep brown eyes I could tell he wanted it, he was pleading for it. I wanted it too. I really did but not yet.

Seth and I had grown closer during his rehab process, closer then friends but that was a secret always hidden behind doors (mainly gym and hospital ones), to admit I'm scared is an understatement, I'm scared about what if Seth’s not ready? what if I go back but Seth gets injured? what if Seth excels like I know he will but I'm forgotten because I left?

“Seth I'm not sure. I mean you left because you had to you had to take care of your physical health and preserve you mental health. I left because I got upset. I left for a selfish reason. I was an embarrassment to the company when I left they wouldn't want me back” 

Tears well up in my eyes as I feel a rough hand brush against my cheek the soft aroma of Seth’s cologne welcomes me into a sense of tranquillity. It was the subtle things that help ground me and Seth knew that, a look of reassurance, the linking of our hands or the warmth of him embrace.

Turning to the monitor on the wall it shows Charlotte and Natalya in the heat of their match both desperately scrambling to lock in submissions to pick up the win. 

“You see that title, the title those two talented women are putting a hell of a show on for? You made that change, it was your speech and dedication that got the word Diva banned and that stupid butterfly belt retired. You gave the women their power back, so why not go claim yours? Baby go show that roster who does it best who's got the longest historic reign for a women's belt.” 

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EXTREME RULES - MAIN EVENT 

“OMG ITS-  ITS SETH ROLLINS!”

“ITS SETH ROLLINS, A PEDIGREE!” 

“SETH ROLLINS IS BACK!, SETH ROLLINS IS HERE A PEDIGREE TO THE CHAMPION”

“Seth Rollins a former WWE World Heavyweight Champion, and remember he never lost the title he was forced to vacate it due to injury last year” 

As the show closes the last scene is Seth Rollins with the WWE World Heavyweight Championship in his grasp with his former shield brother Roman Reigns at his feet. 

After returning backstage and receiving a large amount of praise and complements Seth could only think of one thing and that was the women he had grown to love who sat waiting proudly in his trailer, he showed the world he could come back and concur and that's what he going to help her do.

She had Redesigned the women’s image in the WWE ,

helped Rebuild a broken Seth Rollins, 

and now she needs to Reclaim her title and division. 

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AAC Light-Heavyweight Rematch!

Doing some warmups with roulettes first, but tonight GCC heads back into the AAC Light-Heavyweight division for some PAYBACK!

And also to get Frost his first time clear of the normal raids.

Join us over on Twitch: https://twitch.tv/LiminalityCarb

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Here my references for my HC Jason and Bruce physiques

Nota Bene : They are all probably on performance enhancers, at leat one admited it for education purposes.

I tried to take least staged possible pictures.

Off season 4 times classic physique Mister Olympia Chris Bumstead 6'1/1.85 meters 264lbs/120 kg. The one who admited using drugs. Nearly 20 kilos less on season and way more shredded. To me more Jason than Bruce, Jay being the powerful one he doesn't have to be light or shredded. The guy can dunk.

Dmitry Klokov, 6'/1.83 meters, 231 lbs/105 kilos in competition, had the habit to cut 1 month or 1 month and a half prior. Olympic weightlifter, 2005 world champion, in the top 3 the rest of his career. More Bruce like, a physique for explosivity and entire body control.

Eric Bugenhagen/Rick Boog, former NCAA Division 1 wrestler, powerlifter, former WWE superstar. Annouced at 6'1/1.85 meters 233 lbs/106 kilos when he had this physique. The best mix of power and stamina of them. Can play Iron Maiden on the guitar while squatting heavy wheights. Bruce like imo.

Francis Ngannou, former UFC heavyweight champion, the hardest puncher on earth, like litteraly world record. 6'4/1.93 meters, 257 pounds/116 kilos at his last UFC match. Built to go fast and strong. Explosive power is the word. More Jason than Bruce.

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Cassius Clay at the 1960 Olympics: The Dawn of a Legend

Before he was known as Muhammad Ali, the world’s most celebrated boxer was a young man named Cassius Clay, a 6-foot-3-inch powerhouse from Louisville, Kentucky. The 1960 Rome Olympics marked the beginning of his meteoric rise to global fame, where he showcased not only his exceptional talent but also the charisma and confidence that would define his illustrious career.

The Journey to Rome: A Young Boxer on the Rise

Cassius Clay was born on January 17, 1942, in Louisville, Kentucky. He began boxing at the age of 12 after his bicycle was stolen, and he vowed to “whup” the thief. Under the guidance of Joe Martin, a local police officer and boxing coach, Clay quickly honed his skills and began to dominate the amateur boxing scene. By the time he was 18, he had already won two national Golden Gloves titles and two Amateur Athletic Union (AAU) championships.

His impressive amateur record earned him a spot on the U.S. Olympic boxing team for the 1960 Summer Olympics in Rome. Despite his success, Clay was still relatively unknown outside of the United States. However, that would soon change.

The Rome Olympics: A Star is Born

The 1960 Olympics was Cassius Clay’s first appearance on the international stage, and he was determined to make the most of it. Competing in the light heavyweight division, Clay quickly became one of the most talked-about athletes in Rome. His speed, footwork, and lightning-quick reflexes set him apart from his competitors. But it wasn’t just his physical abilities that caught the world’s attention — his personality and confidence were equally magnetic.

Clay’s path to the gold medal was anything but easy. In his first match, he faced off against Belgian boxer Yvon Becaus, winning by unanimous decision. He continued his dominant performance in the quarterfinals, defeating Gennadi Shatkov of the Soviet Union, a former Olympic champion, in another unanimous decision.

In the semifinals, Clay squared off against Australian Tony Madigan, a tough opponent who had previously fought Clay twice in amateur bouts, with each winning once. However, in Rome, Clay’s superior speed and agility earned him a hard-fought victory, setting the stage for the gold medal match.

The Gold Medal Match: A Defining Moment

The final bout for the light heavyweight gold medal took place on September 5, 1960, with Cassius Clay facing off against Zbigniew Pietrzykowski of Poland, a highly experienced and skilled boxer. Pietrzykowski had won numerous European championships and was widely considered one of the best boxers in the world.

The match was a test of Clay’s mettle. Pietrzykowski’s awkward, unorthodox style posed significant challenges, and the Polish boxer managed to win the first round. However, Clay, displaying the resilience and adaptability that would become his trademark, adjusted his strategy. In the second round, he began to find his rhythm, using his speed to outmaneuver Pietrzykowski and landing a series of powerful punches.

By the third round, Clay was in full control, overwhelming Pietrzykowski with his relentless attack. The judges awarded Clay the victory in a 5–0 decision, making him the Olympic light heavyweight champion. As the referee raised his hand in victory, the world was introduced to a new kind of athlete — one who combined skill, showmanship, and an unwavering belief in his own greatness.

Beyond the Olympics: The Rise of Muhammad Ali

Winning the gold medal in Rome was a pivotal moment in Cassius Clay’s life. It not only cemented his status as one of the best amateur boxers in the world but also laid the foundation for his professional career. Upon returning to the United States, Clay was celebrated as a national hero. However, the racial tensions of the time also presented challenges, as Clay, like many African American athletes of the era, faced discrimination and segregation.

Undeterred, Clay turned professional later that year and quickly began making a name for himself in the boxing world. In 1964, he won the heavyweight championship of the world by defeating Sonny Liston, an upset that shocked the sports world. Shortly after, Clay announced his conversion to Islam and changed his name to Muhammad Ali, beginning a new chapter in his life and career.

Legacy: The Birth of a Legend

The 1960 Olympics was more than just a sporting event for Cassius Clay — it was the stage on which a legend was born. His performances in Rome showcased not only his incredible boxing talent but also the charisma, confidence, and sense of destiny that would define his career.

Clay’s Olympic victory was a precursor to a career that would see him become one of the most influential athletes in history. As Muhammad Ali, he transcended the sport of boxing, becoming a global icon and a symbol of courage, conviction, and social justice. The young man who captured the world’s attention in Rome went on to inspire millions, not just as a boxer, but as a champion of human rights and a voice for the voiceless.

The 1960 Olympics will always be remembered as the moment when the world first met Cassius Clay — the man who would become “The Greatest.”

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The Fall of a King: Roy Jones-Antonio Tarver 2 Alters Boxing Landscape

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Published: May 15, 2024

Antonio Tarver’s knockout of Roy Jones was a monumental shift in boxing history.

Boxing is a realm of unpredictability. It's a sport where a single moment can abruptly end a match, shattering expectations and rewriting the narrative.

"I got a question. You got any excuses tonight, Roy?" This question, posed by Antonio Tarver in the prefight instructions to the match, would later prove to be a prophetic moment in the ring. It was a question that hinted at the dramatic turn of events that would soon unfold, altering the course of boxing history. 

Twenty years ago, on May 15, 2004, the world witnessed the fall of a king of the sweet science. Once thought to be invincible, Roy Jones Jr. was put down by one punch, forever changing the landscape of boxing and the trajectory of his career. Antonio Tarver's bravado and unwavering self-belief were only matched by Jones himself. His second-round knockout of Jones is a tentpole moment in boxing history. One that shouldn't be forgotten. It serves as a stark reminder that all the knockouts scored and all the titles won can be overshadowed by a single punch. In one moment, a career can change. 

Before his rematch with Tarver, Roy Jones was at the pinnacle of the boxing world. While he may not have been as much of a box office draw as his contemporary Oscar De La Hoya, his win over John Ruiz in March 2003, where he claimed a piece of the heavyweight crown, catapulted him into the realm of all-time greats. 

The Ruiz fight was an exclamation point on a career that had reached near perfection. Jones' only loss was a controversial disqualification, which he immediately avenged with a first-round knockout over Montell Griffin in 1997. It was beyond rare for Jones to lose not just fights but rounds. Jones' unique blend of elite athleticism, hand speed, and power made him almost invincible to his opponents. 

Roy Jones Jr. achievements before facing Antonio Tarver

Fans tend to overly nitpick fighters of the past, using their resumes against them without the proper context. Even under a high level of scrutiny, Jones' career still holds up as one of the greatest of the last fifty years. In dominant runs through three weight classes: middleweight, super middleweight, and light heavyweight, Jones faced a plethora of Ring-Rated top-ten fighters. 

That list includes names like Bernard Hopkins, Jorge Castro, Thomas Tate, Tony Thornton, Merqui Sosa, Virgil Hill, Eric Harding, Reggie Johnson, Julio Gonzalez, and his magnum opus against James Toney in 1994. Due to his dominance against opponents of all levels, Jones was named the Fighter of the Decade for the 1990s by the Boxing Writer's Association of America.

 There were some misses, most notably a unification match with longtime WBO light heavyweight titleholder Dariusz Michalczewski, a fighter who primarily fought in Germany. There was also the United Kingdom trio of Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, and Steve Collins at super middleweight. In today's era, where fights across the pond are more readily available, it's possible that all these fights would have taken place in some capacity.

 Although Tarver and Jones are the same age, the Florida rivals were always at different stages of their careers. Tarver was always playing catch-up. Both were outstanding amateurs, with Jones being awarded the Val Barker award as the best boxer at the 1988 Olympic Games in Seoul, Korea. Jones ended up with a silver medal after a highly disputed loss in the finals, which is recognized as one of the biggest robberies in boxing history. Tarver was also an Olympian, earning the Bronze medal at the 1996 Games in Atlanta. 

Following Jones' win over Ruiz, it was thought he would continue his career as a heavyweight. However, the fights Jones wanted against the likes of Mike Tyson never materialized, leaving the four-division champion at a crossroads. 

"We worked on a Holyfield fight an it fell through," said one of Jones' promoters, Murad Muhammad. "We worked on a Tyson fight and it fell through. We wanted Lennox Lewis, but he's not fighting." 

Roy Jones returns to light heavyweight after winning WBA heavyweight title

Tarver may have forewarned Jones that a return to light heavyweight was imminent. Tarver's moniker is "Magic Man," and while he's certainly shown his prowess in the ring, his true magic comes from his gift of gab. At the post-fight press conference after Jones's win over Ruiz, Tarver crashed Jones' celebration by insulting him and challenging him to a fight at light heavyweight. 

"For the last three to four year, Roy Jones has hand-picked every opponent that ever stepped in a ring with him," said Tarver before the first fight with Jones. "He never bickered and argued when he had a less than stellar mandatory. But when Antonio Tarver became his mandatory he made every excuse in the world." 

Maybe it was pride, ego, or a lack of a more profitable choice, but Jones granted Tarver his shot in November 2003. Jones, an 8-to-1 favorite, was in the most competitive fight of his career up to that point against Tarver. The former heavyweight champion was relegated to potshotting, throwing one punch at a time. The move back down to light heavyweight took its toll on Jones, who had to lose 25 pounds of muscle.

But Tarver was prepared for Jones. He avoided most of Jones' offense on his gloves and landed in combination whenever he found his opponent on the ropes. Tarver, however, would make a critical mistake. Instead of pressing the action, he resorted to counterpunching, allowing an exhausted-looking Jones to steal rounds. 

When the final bell rang, Tarver celebrated as if a victory was guaranteed. Jones casually walked away. The judges rewarded Jones' effort, giving him a majority decision. The win over Tarver gave Jones the distinction of being the first reigning heavyweight title holder to move down and win a light heavyweight title. 

Jones' victory was met with ire from fans and Tarver. Many felt Tarver had done enough in most rounds to be declared the winner. Jones blamed his performance on the difficulty in moving back down to light heavyweight after changing his body to fight at heavyweight. 

Jones could have used his status as the more well-known fighter and champion to dismiss Tarver. No one would have blamed Jones if he decided to move back up to heavyweight. But once again, a mix of pride and ego opened a rematch with Tarver. Money, as is usually the case, was a determining factor as well. 

"Everybody wants to know how me and Roy got in the ring for the second time," Tarver told ProBox TV. "Well, I'm here to tell you. The man told me to take it or leave it. Period. No more questions. Take it or leave it; I'm over here. I said I'll take it because if I wouldn't have I would have never had the opportunity to do what I did." 

There was a general feeling in boxing circles that Jones would be back to his usual dominant self in the rematch with Tarver. But something about Tarver's unrelenting confidence made one ponder: Does he know something we don't? 

Antonio Tarver changes the course of boxing history.

The classic moment in the center of the ring with Tarver's excuses questions to Jones right before the first round is unique in the annals of boxing history. It has never been duplicated or matched. 

A tense first-round ensued that mirrored their first bout. Jones was potshotting, attempting to bait Tarver into opening up more. But Tarver wasn't budging from his game plan of waiting for the perfect moment to strike. All three judges scored the first round for Jones. 

In a flash, lighting struck. At the mid-way point of the second round, in an exchange, the southpaw Tarver threw an overhand left that sent Jones crashing down. It was surreal and shocking. Jones barely beat the count but stumbled when he rose to his fight. Jay Nady waved the fight off. And it was over.

Remarkably, this was only the second time Jones had been knocked down as a professional. But the first one that did real damage. 

"That is the first time in his career he's really been hurt," recalled then HBO commentator and longtime boxing journalist Larry Merchant. "He's gone down before one time. But there was a perfect left hand. Roy never saw it coming. Roy is out. And Roy may be out of boxing!" 

 On one side of the ring, a celebration developed. On the other, somber reflection in disbelief and acceptance occurred. Jones made no excuses after the fight and viewed the loss as part of boxing. 

The two would fight again in a third match the following year, with Tarver winning a decision. Jones's loss to Tarver was only one chapter in a career that is still ongoing. Jones fought as recently as 2023. 

Without question, this was the most significant moment of Tarver's career and what he would ultimately be remembered for. For Jones, however, it was the start of a decline and a period of his career that has seen many ups and downs. It's a special case to witness a fighter who was viewed in such high regard and then drastically plummet back down to earth. 

Fans and pundits have speculated how Jones' legacy would have differed if he had chosen to retire instead of moving back down to fight Tarver. After all, Jones was in his mid-30s, and it isn't out of the norm for a fighter to experience a decrease in skill and athleticism at that age. It's not a guarantee that Jones would have stayed retired or what would have happened at heavyweight, but many believe Jones retiring after the Ruiz victory would have left him with a top 10 all-time standing in boxing history. 

"I think RJ would have been somewhere in the top five with a case for number one," said boxing trainer Stephen "Breadman" Edwards. "But I hate looking back on it because fate is fate. If Roy was meant to be the best ever, he would be. Things are what they are and we can't dismiss post Ruiz. 

Tarver's knockout of Jones occurred before the age of social media. Although its impact and legacy may have benefited, this doesn't diminish its historical significance or place as a monumental shift in boxing history.

(Featured Photo: Jed Jacobsohn/Getty Images)

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Leon Spinks (July 11, 1953 - February 5, 2021) was a former boxer who competed from 1977 to 1995. In only his eighth professional fight, he won the undisputed heavyweight championship in 1978 after defeating Muhammad Ali in a split decision, in what was considered one of the biggest upsets in boxing history. He was stripped of the WBC title for facing Ali in an unapproved rematch seven months later, which he lost by unanimous decision.

He gained notoriety for the disaster which befell his career following the loss to Ali. He did challenge once more for the WBC heavyweight title in 1981, and the WBA cruiserweight title in 1986.

As an amateur, he won numerous medals in the light heavyweight division. The first was bronze at the inaugural 1974 World Championships, followed by silver at the 1975 Pan American Games, and gold at the 1976 Summer Olympics; the latter was alongside his brother Michael Spinks, who won middleweight gold. He served in the USMC.

He had a brief career as a professional wrestler, working for Frontier Martial-Arts Wrestling and holding the FMW Brass Knuckles Heavyweight Championship.

He was born and raised in St. Louis. He was married to Brenda. His son, Cory Spinks, held the undisputed welterweight title and was the IBF junior middleweight champion twice. His other son, Leon Calvin, was shot to death in East St. Louis as he was driving home from his girlfriend’s house. He was an aspiring light heavyweight pro boxer with a record of 2–0, with the two pro bouts occurring only a month before he died. His grandson and Calvin’s son, Leon Spinks III, is an aspiring light heavyweight southpaw boxer with a pro record of 11–3–1 with seven knockouts. #africanhistory365 #africanexcellence

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Do you think there's a UFC style of MMA compared to a ONE or Rizin style?

I don't just mean the rule set, more like how Eastern European boxers have a slightly different fighter style compared to US boxers.

Sorta, yeah. Just because guys fighting in ONE or in RIZIN come from gyms and even sometimes martial arts that just are not as popular/successful in the US, where the UFC gets the majority of their talent. How many UFC fighters are coming out of the Philippines or Singapore for example? How many guys in RIZIN are just straight up former high level Muay Thai fighters? Or are former Jkick fighters in RIZIN? How many of those guys tend to get to the UFC? There's also the fact RIZIN is in a ring vs a cage, which creates different incentives when it comes to wrestling.

I think MMA might be too broad to have a unified style like how boxing does. Even promotion by promotion. Just cause everyone approaches the sport of MMA so differently. Like Andre Fili trains out of the same gym as Urijah Faber and Song Yadong and I wouldn't compare his style of striking to what either of them do. The thing MMA does have is meta. For example, for the longest time MMA was centered around locking your opponent out of a fight by neutralizing them. Some people were doing it with LnP. Others were doing it by scaring them off of striking exchanges and keeping fights at a low pace (think Silva, Aldo, Woodley, etc.). Then it was all about doing a lot of stuff and volume (Max Holloway, etc). Even that may be too broad.

I think the thing that also really separates the UFC is volume. More global fighters than any other promotion but also the lightweight division alone might have more fighters in it than RIZIN and ONE have on their entire roster. Guys tend to be way bigger (how many 155lbers in ONE/RIZIN are the size of Dan Hooker, Jailin Turner, etc). And the level of athleticism is just generally WAAAAAAAY higher overall. Which means guys are able to do more.

We also have to consider that each division kind of has its own meta. What works at heavyweight and light heavyweight just doesn't cut it at flyweight or bantamweight.

I think it'd probably be more fruitful to look at MMA regionally. See what styles of fighters are coming out of what parts of the world, where they are training, what backgrounds did they start in, and which promotions they are having success in which promotions. Like, what are the stylistic similarities between those fighters?

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AEW Dynamite 4/17/24

Moxley comes out to open the show with the IWGP World Heavyweight Championship, and I throw up in my mouth. He says people have always tried to tell him what he can and can't do, and he says kiss my ass and watch me. He can't even say the full name of the championship, but says he has been chasing it for 5 years. He says a lot of BS about what's inside him. He mentions the Don Callis Family targeting Danielson. He says they are welcome to come fight him. He challenges Hobbs to a match next week. He says there are a lot of great wrestlers, but there will only ever be one Jon Moxley. And I say thank god for that!!!!! What an awful way to open the show. Just cringe-inducing.

Mercedes does a backstage promo. She mentions being attacked last week in the dark, and says the dark is a little too familiar. She didn't picture Julia to be such a coward. Or maybe it was someone else who wants her to think it was Julia. So she is putting the whole women's division on notice.

Adam Copeland and Willow Nightingale vs. Brody King and Julia Hart -- Copeland enters. The screen shows Willow being checked on by a doctor, after seemingly being attacked backstage. The lights go out and Brody jumps Copeland. Brody lands a running cross body to Copeland into the barricade. Brody dominates with suplexes and chops. Copeland finally turns it around with lariats and boots in the corner, then lands an impaler DDT for two. Copeland lands a blockbuster off the second rope and goes for a spear, but Brody stops it with a lariat. Willow comes out! She tags in with a cross body to Brody, then Copeland spears Brody. Willow lands the corner cannonball senton on Brody. Then Julia comes in from behind with a steel chain to Willow's face, then locks in Hartless for the pinfall.

This was fine. It wasn't much of a match, but it made its point well enough. Rating: 2.25

Mercedes comes out with a chair to even the odds! Julia takes off. Mercedes and Willow/Copeland face each other. Copeland shakes Mercedes' hand.

Samoa Joe sits down with Renee. Joe says he did see Swerve as a worthy adversary, but now he sees him as more of a nuisance. Swerve keeps standing up after Joe knocks him down, and that doesn't seem like a pre-requisite to a champion, it seems like a pre-requisite to a punching bag. Swerve has come up short for every championship he has challenged for. History will repeat itself at Dynasty. Swerve is a choke artist, but he won't have to worry about it at Dynasty, because Joe will choke him instead. Nice! Great stuff from Joe as usual!

Bucks and Okada promo! The Bucks say they perfected the ladder match and will become the first three time AEW World Tag Champs at Dynasty. Okada says Pac won't make it to Dynasty. He is a dead man.

Kazuchika Okada and The Young Bucks vs. Pac, Penta El Zero Miedo, and Daniel Garcia -- Stereo leg drop/moonsault combination by Penta and Pac on Nick. Garcia lands a beautiful butterfly suplex on Nick. Okada trips Garcia from outside and drags him out, then Nick lands a running PK to Garcia from the apron. Matt is talking on the mic while wrestling. God. Garcia lands a back suplex on Matt. Pac lands beautiful, rebounding snap German suplexes on both Bucks off the ropes, then a double missile dropkick off the top, then a moonsault off the top to the outside! Triple team enziguris and back elbow by the Bucks and Okada on Pac in the corner. Okada lands a neckbreaker on the knee on Pac for two. Penta comes in with Made in Japan on Okada for two! Pac with a nice slingshot cutter over the ropes on Matt! Pac lands a huge thrust kick to take Okada down. Pac goes for the Black Arrow, but Matt takes him off the top rope, and he tumbles down on his head. Okada lands a dropkick on Garcia. Garcia gets jacknife pin on Okada for two! Double corner enziguris by the Bucks on Garcia, then a tombstone by Okada! Penta comes in and Okada lands a Tombstone on him as well! Double superkicks by the Bucks, then Rainmaker by Okada on Garcia!! Okada covers Garcia for the pinfall.

This was a good, fun match. Solid action from all involved. I could have done without the some of the Bucks' nonsense here, which is weird, because I'm usually into it. But Matt talking on the mic during the match took me out of it a little bit. Lol. Rating: 3.25

The Bucks attack Garcia after the match with an EVP-trigger. They try to sandwich him in between a ladder, but Pac comes out swinging with a hammer, and they run off!!!! Nice!!!!!

Jericho and Hook enter into the ring with Taz. Jericho says Hook isn't listening to him. Everyone who has gone into the Jericho vortex has come out the other side a better performer, wrestler, and person. He knows he can get Hook to the top. What does Hook say? Hook eats chips while he talks. Loool. Hook says no. Jericho says what does he mean no? Taz tries to get involved, but Jericho gets angry. He says he is just doing what Taz should have done 30 years ago. Excalibur says on commentary that Hook is not 30 years old. Lmao. Jericho says Hook is not as good as he thinks he is. He is not there yet. Taz tries to interrupt. Jericho shoves Taz to the ground!! Hook shoves Jericho into the corner and grabs him by throat! Hook says, "You wanna see how good I am? I'll show you again, any time, any place anywhere. Now get out of my ring." Okay, Hook!!! Damn!! Lol. I enjoyed this, from Jericho's nonsense to Hook's intensity.

Renee sits down with Swerve and asks him to respond to Joe's comments. He says Joe is not wrong. He has stumbled throughout his career, but he has always fallen forward into success. He's been put in a coffin, he has taken a chain to the face and has been bloodied, but he always gets back up. Renee asks if he can defeat Joe. Swerve says he should be answering that to Joe himself and he will later tonight.

Deonna Purrazzo vs. Mariah May -- They trade some elbows. Deonna grabs an arm bar, but Mariah gets to the rope. Deonna lays Mariah out with a big pump kick for two. Mariah with a headbutt, hip attack, and tornado DDT for two. Mariah goes for her finisher, but Deonna reverses and gets a quick roll up for the pinfall. Didn't love this. Rating: 2.25

Thunder Rosa comes out after the match, lays Storm out, and puts lipstick all over her face.

Bullet Club Gold are with Renee backstage. Jay talks about recent events with the Acclaimed and Billy Gunn. He says everyone can see how much better off the Gunns are with Papa Blade than Daddy Ass. Lmao. They challenge them to a winner take all titles vs. titles trios match.

Billy Gunn and the Acclaimed promo. Billy says he has already beaten the life out of Jay, and he has been beating those other two since they were little kids. They accept the title match challenge.

Shane Taylor vs. Orange Cassidy -- Taylor blocks a DDT attempt and hangs Orange over the ropes and lands a stunner! Taylor with big overhand chops, abdomen shots, a headbutt, and an apron leg drop! Orange lands a thrust kick. Taylor with a huge right hand that takes Orange down!! Orange goes to the top, but Moriarty and Ogogo grab his legs to slow him, and Taylor grabs him off the top by the throat. Orange tries for the tornado DDT, but Taylor blocks and goes for something of his own, but Orange reverses into a stunner! Orange goes for an Orange Punch, but Taylor ducks it and lands a big lariat for two! Orange tries for the Beach Break but can't get Taylor up. Knee by Taylor! Orange Punch by Orange!!!! Right hand by Taylor!!!! Orange comes back with another Orange Punch for three!!!!

I enjoyed that match. Very good back and forth. Taylor was great here. Rating: 3

STP attack Orange after the match. Ogogo lands the abdomen punch. Daniels and Sydal try to make the save, but Trent stops them and hurls a chair at Sydal's head! Shane Taylor lands a right hand to the face of Orange, and Moriarty locks in the Border City stretch.

Claudio Castagnoli vs. Will Ospreay -- Claudio lands a big running uppercut right after the bell for two!! Ospreay goes for something, but Claudio reverses and lands a backbreaker on the knee for two. Ospreay lands a rana off the ropes, then chops outside and a flying forearm off the barricade outside. Claudio blocks a springboard attempt and lands a double stomp! Claudio lands a backbreaker on the knee. Ospreay with a bead scissors takedown, then springboards over the ropes, but Claudio catches him and just hurls him down back-first on the apron! Claudio with kicks to the back, then a diving uppercut to the back for two. Ospreay vaults off Claudio with a backflip, then lands an enziguri, a rebounding handspring back kick, a boot in the corner, and a springboard forearm for two. Claudio blocks a Tiger Driver attempt and lands an uppercut. Ospreay with a backslide for two. Ospreay locks in a Sharpshooter, but Claudio reverses into one of his own, then transitions into a cross face with the arm trapped. Claudio springboards off the ropes, but Ospreay meets him with a thrust kick, then lands a Tiger Driver for two! Claudio takes his fingers to the eyes and pummels Ospreay with strikes in the corner, then lands a big lariat for two! Claudio lands an uppercut, but Ospreay kips right back up to his feet and lands an enziguri! Series of counters! Ospreay reverses a Ricola Bomb attempt into a tight pinning combo for two! Claudio reverses an OsCutter attempt, catching Ospreay on his shoulders in a torture rack, then slamming him down to the mat (interverted DVD?) for two! Ospreay lands a Spanish Fly for two! Ospreay goes for the Hidden Blade, but Claudio stops it with a pop-up uppercut for two! Claudio gets Ospreay in position for the Giant Swing, but Ospreay escapes by curling up into a DDT!! Damn! Core strength! Ospreay lands a Cancun Tornado off the top for two! Ospreay finally lands a Hidden Blade for the pinfall!

This was a great match, featuring a nice match up of Ospreay's speed vs. Claudio's power (and speed of his own). They did some awesome counters here too. There wasn't a lot of drama to it for me, as the result was clear, but the action was great. But I don't think I'm as high on it as most people seem to be. Rating: 3.75

Takeshita, Hobbs, and Fletcher gang up on Claudio after the match. Moxley comes to his aid. Ospreay isupset at the rest of the Callis Family for getting involved. Strange dynamic here, as Claudio does some heel stuff in the match with Ospreay, but then the Callis Family does heel stuff to Claudio after the match. Ospreay is apparently a babyface while the rest of his stable are heels, which is really strange. I imagine this has to go the way of Ospreay leaving the Callis Family soon.

Swerve comes out with a mic. He says he was asked how he is going to beat Joe. He says he already knocked Joe on his ass and made him scurry like a little bitch. That showed him everything he needed to see. The fear. The fact that Joe knows Swerve can beat him for the championship. He calls for Joe to come out so he can talk to him face to face. Joe comes out, but security is holding him back. Swerve lands the stomp off the top to the security guards on the outside and gets in Joe's face! In the ring, Swerve lands the House Call and sets up for the stomp off the top on Joe. But Joe gets back up and lands a Muscle Buster!!! The show ends with Joe standing over Swerve on the mat with his title in the air.

This was a nice closing segment and a great note to end on before Dynasty for these two.