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Irish dress history sources online:

A list of sources for Irish dress history research that free to access on the internet:

Primary and period sources:

Text Sources:

Corpus of Electronic Texts (CELT): a database of historical texts from or about Ireland. Most have both their original text and, where applicable, an English translation. Authors include: Francisco de Cuellar, Luke Gernon, John Dymmok, Thomas Gainsford, Fynes Moryson, Edmund Spenser, Laurent Vital, Tadhg Dall Ó hUiginn

Images:

The Edwin Rae Collection: A collection of photographs of Irish carvings dating 1300-1600 taken by art historian Edwin Rae in the mid-20th c. Includes tomb effigies and other figural art.

National Library of Ireland: Has a nice collection of 18th-20th c. Irish art and photographs. Search their catalog or browse their flickr.

Irish Script on Screen: A collection of scans of medieval Irish manuscripts, including The Book of Ballymote.

The Book of Kells: Scans of the whole thing.

The Image of Irelande, with a Discoverie of Woodkarne by John Derricke published 1581. A piece of anti-Irish propaganda that should be used with caution. Illustrations. Complete text.

Secondary sources:

Irish History from Contemporary Sources (1509-1610) by Constantia Maxwell published 1923. Contains a nice collection of primary source quotes, but it sometimes modernizes the 16th c. English in ways that are detrimental to the accuracy, like changing 'cote' to 'coat'. The original text for many of them can be found on CELT, archive.org, or google books.

An Historical Essay on the Dress of the Ancient and Modern Irish By Joseph Cooper Walker published 1788. Makes admirable use of primary sources, but because of Walker's assumption that Irish dress didn't change for the entirety of the Middle Ages, it is significantly flawed in a lot of its conclusions. Mostly only useful now for historiography. I discussed the images in this book here.

Chapter 18: Dress and Personal Adornment from A Smaller Social History of Ancient Ireland by P. W. Joyce published 1906. Suffers from similar problems to An Historical Essay on the Dress of the Ancient and Modern Irish.

Consumption and Material Culture in Sixteenth-Century Ireland Susan Flavin's 2011 doctoral thesis. A valuable source on the kinds of materials that were available in 16th c Ireland.

A Descriptive Catalogue of the Antiquities in the Museum of the Royal Irish Academy Volumes 1 and 2 by William Wilde, published 1863. Obviously outdated, and some of Wilde's conclusions are wrong, because archaeologists didn't know how to date things in the 19th century, but his descriptions of the individual artifacts are worthwhile. Frustratingly, this is still the best catalog available to the public for the National Museum of Ireland Archaeology. Idk why the NMI doesn't have an online catalog, a lot museums do nowadays.

Volume I: Articles of stone, earthen, vegetable and animal materials; and of copper and bronze

Volume 2: A Descriptive Catalogue of the Antiquities of Gold in the Museum of the Royal Irish Academy

A Horsehair Woven Band from County Antrim, Ireland: Clues to the Past from a Later Bronze Age Masterwork by Elizabeth Wincott Heckett 1998

Jewellery, art and symbolism in Medieval Irish society by Mary Deevy in Art and Symbolism in Medieval Europe- Papers of the 'Medieval Europe Brugge 1997' Conference (page 77 of PDF)

Looking the part: dress and civic status and ethnicity in early-modern Ireland by Brid McGrath 2018

Irish Mantles, English Nationalism: Apparel and National Identity in Early Modern English and Irish Texts by John R Ziegler 2013

Dress and ornament in early medieval Ireland - exploring the evidence by Maureen Doyle 2014

Dress and accessories in the early Irish tale, ‘The Wooing of Becfhola’ by Niamh Whitfield 2006

A tenth century cloth from Bogstown Co. Meath by Elizabeth Wincott Heckett 2004

Tertiary Sources:

Medieval Ireland: An Encyclopedia edited by Sean Duffy published 2005

Re-Examining the Evidence: A Study of Medieval Irish Women's Dress from 750 to 900 CE by Alexandra McConnell

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diceriadelluntore · 12 days ago

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I Miei Libri del 2024

Il libro è una cosa: lo si può mettere su un tavolo e guardarlo soltanto, ma se lo apri e leggi diventa un mondo - Leonardo Sciascia

Giulio Giudorizzi - i Miti Delle Stelle

Jamie Ford - Sulla Via Dell'Incenso

Jonas Jonasson - Tre Amici Quasi Geniali Verso La Fine Del Mondo

Oscar Wilde - Il Fantasma Di Canterville e Altri Racconti

Julian Barnes - Elizabeth Finch

Luciano Canfora - Convertire Casaubon

Will Ferguson - Felicità©

William Dalrymple / Anna Anand - Koh-I-Nur

Hervé Clerc - A Dio Per La Parete Nord

Stefano Mancuso - Fitopolis, La Città Vivente

Sam Kean - La Brigata Dei Bastardi

Henry James - La Cifra Del Tappeto

Giorgo De Santillana / Hertha Von Dechend - Il Mulino Di Amleto

Rebecca Struthers - Memorie Di Un'Orologiaia

Alexander Lernet-Holenia - Due Sicilie

Daniel Mason - La Foresta Del Nord

Peskè Marty - Qui Il Sentiero Si Perde

Alexandre Dumas Figlio - La Signora Delle Camelie

Lauretta Colonnelli - La Vita Segreta Dei Colori

Fred Vargas - Sulla Pietra

Giorgio Pestelli - Il Genio Di Beethoven

Richard Osman - L'Uomo Che Morì Due Volte

Adam Thirlwell - Il Futuro Futuro

Stefano Bizzotto - Storia Del Mondo In 12 Partite Di Calcio

Edwin A. Abbott - Flatlandia

Shirley Jackson - L'Incubo Di Hill House

Ferdia Lennon - Eroi Senza Gloria

William Gaddis - Le Perizie

Michael Young - L'Avvento Della Meritocrazia

Eric Fouassier - Le Notti Della Morte Blu

Laurent Binet - Prospettive

A.K. Blakemore - L'Insaziabile

Tommaso Giartosio - Autobiogrammatica

Alessandro Baricco - Castelli Di Rabbia

Rosa Montero - Il Pericolo Di Essere Sana Di Mente

Beatrice Del Bo - Arsenico e Altri Veleni

Jenny Erpenbeck - Kairos

Il totale è 37 come nel 2023, le pagine sono aumentate, e per il secondo anno consecutivo supero il mio obiettivo personale delle 10 mila, sono arrivato a 11 750. Ho letto anche più di un classico per trimestre, tra cui anche dei saggi, e l'anno prossimo l'obiettivo è leggere un libro di un autore dell'età classica a trimestre.

Sulla qualità dei titoli, ammetto che dopo anni di ricerca e di perfezionamento delle fonti ne sbaglio pochissimi: alcuni rimarranno nel tempo, come L'Insaziabile, l'ultimo di Erpeneck (vincitrice dell'International Booker Price del 2024, un libro drammaticamente potentissimo), Lennon, Marty, Thirlwell. Libri del tutto particolari, tra l'autobiografia, il racconto e il saggio sono quello di Montero e Giartosio. Se devo notare una differenza, ho letto meno autori e autrici italiane, e una cosa che dovrei iniziare a fare è rileggere dei volumi di qualche anno fa, tipo una decina, e scoprire l'effetto che fa.

Chiunque voglia, può rebloggare, commentare e aggiungere i suoi libri o quelli che gli sono piaciuti di più, per diffondere autori, case editrici, idee.

Il libro è una delle possibilità di felicità che abbiamo noi uomini - Jorge Luis Borges

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galadrieljones · 5 months ago

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Chartreuse, P.A.D.R.E., The World Beyond coda, and some other potentially wild connections to Daryl Dixon season 2 (Team Delusional)

Hello friends. This post contains spoilers pertaining to recent script leaks, outlined in this helpful post by @bookqueenrules. If you don't want to know anything about these leaks, you can read this post all the way until I post a WARNING. At that point, you should stop!!

Anyway, here we go. Let's look at the shot above.

When I saw this shot in the DD2 trailer, I paused for several reasons. First of all, and most obviously, I saw the Mona Lisa, which is housed at the Louvre. Recall this shot from season 1, which draws a visual connection between the Mona Lisa (shot in the left side of the forehead) and Beth. Daryl literally stops to look at her, as if he is seeing exactly what we are seeing.

Now, the second big thing I noticed in that shot from the trailer, and what I want to talk about today, were several bottles of some sort of green liquid...

These are definitely bottles of CHARTREUSE.

Chartreuse is a unique French liqueur made of alcohol infused with 130 different herbs, flowers, and plants, and which always appears to be either bright green or yellow. Of course, the color green is always interesting to TDers when it is used out of context (ie: on things that are not usually green). It reminded me of two other important out-of-context examples of green in TWDU: the green chlorine gas from The World Beyond and The Ones Who Live, as well as the green corrosive substance which causes Amanda's death in the Tales episode "Davon."

The thing is, while it seems out of context here, it's really not. Chartreuse is supposed to be green. Very green. As far as alcohols go, it, just like moonshine, has quite a bit of symbolic significance pertaining to what's going on in TWDU...

A Quick History of Chartreuse

Chartreuse has many imitators, but much like French Champagne, there is only one real Chartreuse. Real Chartreuse is very expensive because it is in limited supply, literally produced by Carthusian monks near Paris. It is named for a monastery in the Chartreuse Mountains near Grenoble, France. It began with an alchemical recipe in 1605, presented to the Carthusian monks in the monastery outside of Paris by French King Henry IV, called an "elixir of long life." Over 120 years later, it was enhanced by a monk named Brother Gerome Maubec, and over the next 60 years became quite popular in France.

Anyway, during the French Revolution in 1793, the Carthusian monks were exiled from France. They took refuge in Spain until 1816 during Napoleon's reign, when they returned to France and continued to hone and develop their "elixir of long life." But in 1903, they were exiled again, their distillery confiscated by the French government, and they returned to Spain, specifically a city in Catalonia named Tarragona where the French monks would remain, distilling the only authentic Chartreuse in the world, until they were finally invited back to France after World War II.

Parallels to French History in DD season 1

Okay, why is any of this important? To answer this question, we need to return to the World Beyond season 2 coda, but first, we should recall the events of Daryl Dixon season 1. In season 1, Daryl is taken in by Catholic nuns in an abbey near Marseille. He befriends a nun who implores him to embark on a journey to Le Havre, a place called the Nest, where he will deliver Laurent, a "sacred" boy whose "power" we don't really understand. When they finally arrive at the Nest with Laurent, we meet Losang, who is, in fact, a monk, and who has just come from Spain. Losang is not just a monk, and he wasn't always a monk. Though we know little about his past, we do know that he is originally American, and that he came to Paris to study before the fall.

In season 1, we also meet Genet whose movement The Power of the Living (or Pouvoir des Vivants) espouses strong French Revolutionary vibes. She wishes to return the power to the people in France, implying that in order to do this, the people must rise up to "usurp" said power from somebody else. We don't know for sure who Genet's true enemies are, but it does seem that Genet's enemies have some relationship to Losang, The Union of Hope, the Nest, and the USA, hence her relentless hunt for Daryl and Laurent and her impending assault on the Nest. She even shouts "Vive le France!" during the arena fight at the end of season 1, an exclamation associated with the Storming of the Bastille in 1789.

Losang's faction the Union of Hope is described in season 1 as a movement that unites all religions and all people. While it is helmed at the Nest in Le Havre, it knows no borders. We meet several sub-factions in France, including Lou's group of "Lost Boys" as well as Fallou's people in Paris. We also get some sense that there are arms of the faction in Spain, as Isabelle mentions a spaniard on the radio, and Losang has come from a pilgrimage in Spain, one that @frangipanilove has written about brilliantly. Read here.

The World Beyond: The Science of Wildfire

Let's return now to the World Beyond coda. In the coda, we meet a nameless French scientist who downloads the contents of several hard drives onto her laptop at what appears to be an old bioresearch laboratory, somewhere in France. One of the hard drives contains several folders of interest, including one titled "TB Ellis Papiers" and another titled "Slingerland," which is currently still a mystery, though very interesting, as it is the name of a prominent American musical instrument manufacturing company from the mid-to-late 20th century, which mainly manufactured drum kits and guitars. (If anybody has their own theories on Slingerland, let me know, as it's an obsession for me lol).

The French scientist proceeds to watch a video of correspondence from Dr. Jenner from season 1, who discusses at length many scientific angles on producing or addressing a cure or some sort of treatment or mitigation factor for the Wildfire virus.

As she is watching, an assassin enters with a gun and asks if she is on the "Primrose Team." She corrects him to say that she is on the "Violet Team," and that the Primrose Team was in Toledo, Ohio at the time of the fall. The Teams, as we can gather, are groups of scientists, possibly dispersed internationally, who developed the Wildfire virus and, in their efforts to curb its effects, the French teams specifically, created deadly variants, which, according to Jenner in the video, are not endemic to the US. We believe that the Jenners were members of the Violet Team, given their correspondence with the French scientist on the Violet Team and the fact that Jenner's computer assistant is named "Violet." Of course, that's just speculation...

The assassin in question seems to be unaware of the details of what's gone on with the French teams and is only carrying out assassinations on his leader's behalf. He mentions that they are no longer simply jailing the scientists. They're killing them. His faction, which I believe is the Power of the Living, blames the scientists for causing the Wildfire spread, and also for "making it worse." He shoots the scientist in the head and leaves, at which point, even despite the headshot, she turns into a walker and runs violently toward the door.

In this interaction, we learn that at some point in the first ten years after the fall, a major faction (likely the Power of the Living) began hunting the scientists responsible for the Wildfire virus, jailing, and killing them. Some of the scientists were in America at the time, in Ohio, and we think that some of them are still there, and that they possibly attempted to migrate down to the CDC in Georgia at the beginning of the outbreak. The reason for this is that there are variants of "smart" walkers which seem to exist *only* in Ohio and Georgia and *not* in Virginia. In seasons 1-4 and 11 only, we run into walkers who can run, climb, and use tools. Some even have keepsakes, such as the very first walker we see in "Days Gone Bye." She reaches for her stuffed bear, which implies some semblance of "memory" hanging on from her old life.

Mainly these walkers are encountered in Atlanta and later at the Commonwealth. Since Jenner verifies in his video that he hasn't seen any evidence of variants at the American CDC, this suggests that the variants arrived in Georgia at some point in the first three weeks of the outbreak, or before Rick enters Atlanta for the first time.

Anyway, given that we meet one of the scientist in the WB coda, this suggests that there are more in existence, but that they've simply left France. She came back to see if the Primrose team might be there, after all this time. She was wrong, but this scene has given us many massive clues. This is where the folklore of Chartreuse becomes very interesting.

When the Carthusian monks, or the makers of the "elixir of long life" were kicked out of France, BOTH times they went to Spain.

In Spain, they continued their operation until the French were so threatened by it, they finally invited them back after WWII. Given all the WWII callbacks we get in DD season 1, including the revelation that Daryl's grandfather died on the beaches of Normandy, it may be that we are currently entering into a "proxy" situation, in which Daryl fights alongside his allies in France to defeat an existential threat. Only this time, unlike his grandfather, he will survive, and he will live to see his home and his loved ones again, and soon, the "cure" or science which could mitigate the Wildfire virus, could return to France.

The "elixir of long life," aka Chartreuse, could be a compelling historic and symbolic proxy for the Wildfire virus, which I have speculated, based on its regenerative effects in walkers (ie: slowing down their rate of decay, a scientific process that is discussed in World Beyond, but which is not well understood) could have started as a cure for death or the aging process, or a way to heal and regenerate mortal wounds. A literal fountain of youth. The holy grail. A true "elixir of long life." Unfortunately, it was leaked and allowed to infect humans en masse before it was adjusted beyond its most destructive phases. This is just a theory, mind you. It's just based on a hunch.

Either way, remember that the holy grail, which is determined to be "holy blood," is the object of an intense search in the book and film The DaVinci Code, which has been cited multiple times in relation to the lore of TWD, particular TD theories, and which was the inspiration for the TV show DaVinci's Demons, which Scott Gimple wrote for prior to his work with TWD.

Like the Carthusian monks, the scientific teams in France were hunted, jailed, and exiled by a revolutionary cause and took their science with them. If this comparison is intentional or holds any water, it creates a very likely scenario for why season 3 will take place in Spain. If Genet is behind the exile, then this would also explain why Genet is so intent on attacking the Nest and neutralizing Losang and his forces. She wants the scientists dead and out of France.

What are Losang's Motivations?

Returning to Losang, my fellow theorists and several other TDers are suspicious of Losang after his motivations come into question in the ten minute preview currently available on AMC+. Losang is hesitant to attack Genet even though she has taken several of his people as prisoners. He is also critical of Daryl's attempts to teach Laurent self-defense. Why would that be? He says that it is unhealthy to expose Laurent to so much violence, but he says this knowing that Laurent traveled all the way to the Nest with Daryl and Isabelle, and was almost killed multiple times, that he already had to kill a walker to save Isabelle's life, and that said walker was his own biological father. In what way will teaching him to protect himself in a dangerous world keep him from experiencing the same trauma that he's already experienced?

One reason could be to keep Laurent as helpless as possible, ignorant, focused only on the intellectual and the spiritual, not the physical. It could, of course, be innocent but we believe Losang may have ulterior motives or plans for Laurent, who was born to a walker. The speculation that Laurent may have inherited some sort of immunity to the Wildfire virus has been rampant in the fandom, prompting many to make comparisons to Ellie in The Last of Us. Within TWDU, Laurent having any sort of immunity would make him very valuable to cure research and very interesting in terms of deepening the Wildfire origins lore.

If Losang, as an American, was in Paris to "study" at the time of the fall, it is likely he was at one of two major research universities in the region: the Sorbonne or the Pasteur Institute, the latter being at the forefront of vaccine technology in the modern world. While, of course, we don't know for sure, and we could always be wrong, the notion that he could be a scientist or medical/research doctor is not unfounded. Eastman, a good character proxy for Losang, and who counsels Morgan in the season 6 episode "Here's Not Here," found a similar spiritual awakening in the Eastern philosophy of Aikido after the fall. Eastman was a psychiatrist in his previous life.

I also believe that, logically, it is time for Daryl Dixon to follow through on the connection to the World Beyond coda, considering the fact that Scott Gimple verified a connection between the two some time ago. The set-up with Losang, a highly intelligent leader and "pilgrim," reformed monk who has just come from Spain despite being an American with an academic past, would be the perfect opportunity for the writers to draw a strong connection between two major themes in TWDU, which have been percolating for a while: science and faith.

Child Abduction, the Nest, and P.A.D.R.E. (***Major Spoilers Ahead***)

This is where you should stop reading if you don't want spoilers!

Something my fellow theorists and I have started kicking around, in the wake of a recent script leak, which is apparently the final moments of the final episode of season 2, is the possibility that Laurent will be abducted, or that he'll be lured away from the Nest by someone he trusts, perhaps Losang.

Note that the leaked script implies that, by the end of season 2, Isabelle has apparently died. Laurent is also not present in the final scene. I do not believe the writers will kill off Laurent, but that instead, they'll use him to broaden the scope of the world (and to soften the hearts of both Daryl AND Carol). I also don't believe that Daryl would leave Laurent behind in France with Isabelle dead, or that Laurent would want to be without Daryl, given all they've been through and their attachment to one another. In the trailer, we hear that Daryl and Isabelle have begun to discuss taking Laurent back to America. After the war in France, if Isabelle is gone, it might be that Laurent will still want to go back with Daryl and Carol. But since we don't see him in the final scene re: the leaked script pages, and we haven't heard anything about him in Spain, could it be that, when Daryl and Carol return to the Nest to retrieve him (in a coda, perhaps) he's just gone?

Let's talk about child abductions and missing children in TWDU. While the notion of child abduction starts with Jocelyn in "Scars," it comes to a head in Fear, seasons 7-8, in which we learn that children are being abducted by mysterious "snatchers" and taken to a highly secretive place called P.A.D.R.E., where they are trained to fight, essentially, a walker war. P.A.D.R.E. began as a US Military operation, designed by politicians, military personal, and other experts to maintain sustainability after the fall of civilization due to the Wildfire virus; however, for reasons I don't have time to get into, it turns into something else completely. The children at P.A.D.R.E. are all given BIRD NAMES, ie: Finch, Dove, Wren, etc. Madison Clark, who turns up alive in season 7, is nicknamed Lark, and she starts her journey toward redemption as one of the "snatchers" who steals "eggs" or babies and children from "unfit" parents and returns them to the safety of P.A.D.R.E..

This is very interesting. Let's consider the terminology, which greatly revolves around BIRDS. Children who are good prospects for "snatching" are called "eggs," and where might eggs be stolen from?

A NEST.

The children are then nicknamed after birds and taken to P.A.D.R.E.. "Padre" is a SPANISH word. It means priest or father.

So we have bird eggs being snatched from their nest, taken to a place with a Spanish name related to themes and inventory of Catholicism. Is it possible that P.A.D.R.E. was foreshadowing for the events of Daryl Dixon? Is this why the writers chose bird names for P.A.D.R.E.'s wards?

This is also where we might consider Beth coming in, because Beth's main job when she was with Team Family was taking care of Judith and the children. When they escape the prison, she survives because she leaves the bus to go searching for the children. In "Inmates," she leads Daryl on a search for missing children, which ends badly.

Beth also has a bird cage in her cell in "30 Days Without an Accident."

Is Beth in Spain? Will Laurent be taken there? Is this where the French scientists are hiding out, continuing to develop their "elixir of long life" in secret? Some sort of "Spanish Slabtown?" Are they conducting research on children who are "special," people who have "immunity?" Was Beth part of something bigger than we realize? Bigger, even, than the CRM? Something that spanned international borders? Something related to the origins of and cure for Wildfire?

For a very long time, the season 5 templates have lead us to believe that Daryl and Carol will leave together to search for Beth, but what if they're searching for Laurent, and they find Beth by mistake? OR, what if, while they're searching for Laurent, Beth finds THEM? In any case, it's very important that Carol be there for it, as she is the only other living person who we know of that has been inside of Grady and might have memory of what went on there.

Only time will tell. For now, it's fun to speculate...

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#the walking dead #team delusional #bethyl #I feel it!!

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frangipanilove · 9 months ago

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Señor Dixon Goes To Spain?

Let’s indulge in some wild speculating, based exclusively on hypotheticals and wishful thinking.

Well well well! Daryl might be going to Spain! Excellent choice, it’s a beautiful country, I highly recommend, 10/10. And while it seems to have been officially confirmed just now, it’s not entirely surprising for people who’ve been paying attention.

We heard a reference to Spain already back in TWDDD 1x1 L’âme Perdue, when Isabel showed Daryl around the convent, and they came across a radio. Isabel mentioned that the last person she’d been in contact with was a Spaniard a few months ago:

When seemingly random stuff like this gets brought up, it’s normally fair to assume it’s symbolism or foreshadowing, and I felt pretty certain Spain would come up again sooner or later.

Then later, we meet Losang. He’s the leader of the Nest, and he first came in contact with the nuns and Laurent on his way back from a pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostela in Spain. "Compostela" refers to "the field of stars" under which the pilgrims traveled, a reference to the Milky Way.

That certainly tickles my TD brain, concidering how many astronomical references we have had around Beth, such as Sirius and Venus, satellites and eclipses to name a few.

Camino de Santiago to Santiago de Compostela is one of the world's most famous pilgrimages, and can be reached through a number of different routes. Isabel's convent was situated relatively close to the starting point of the French Way:

I have a whole theory in my drafts on potential references to El Camino de Santiago from years ago, which I might have to revisit now. Also, keep in mind that the working title of TWDDD was "Pilgrim":

But the most compelling thing about filming in Spain is an absolutely brilliant discovery made by @galadrieljones back when the final season of FTWD aired. We see Dwight, Morgan and Sherry share a scene, and a series of coordinates were given, supposedly to a P.A.D.R.E repeater station.

In reality, the coordinates corresponded with an area of the Atlantic Ocean near an archipelago called the Canary Islands. The islands, though situated off the coast of west Africa, are Spanish territory, and are famous (and slightly infamous, to be honest) for hordes of pale, vitamin D-deficient, sun-deprived north Europeans like myself as a holiday destination.

The part of it that’s particularly interesting for TD is that the etymology of the word Canary/Canarias shows it is derived from Latin “Canis”, meaning dog.

And as we know, that’s Sirius symbolism. Sirius means return/rebirth/resurrection. It refers to Sirius the Dog Star, who returns to the sky one morning right before dawn, after having been “just gone” for some time. I've written many posts on that, here's one.

There’s even a particular type of dog breed that’s associated with the Canary Islands, Presa Canario:

As a fun fact, in TWDDD season 1, Daryl’s original plan to get home involved getting on a boat that would eventually take him to Newfoundland, Canada. That’s also a dog reference, it refers to Newfoundland dogs:

As I’ve been saying, dog symbolism is Sirius symbolism, we learned that from 4x13 Alone. It means return/rebirth/resurrection. Daryl’s plans to return via Newfoundland fell through when he had to save Laurent from walkers, but the symbolism of it is still valid.

And as an extra fun fact, there’s even a location on Newfoundland, Canada, with the name Canary Islands…

…do with that what you will...

Another really interesting thing about the Canary Islands is that they provide an excellent starting point for transatlantic crossings. This is due to the consistent trade winds that blow from east to west, and sailors have taken advantage of this phenomenon for centuries.

Of course, we don’t know if Daryl will make it to the Canary Islands, and even if he doesn’t, I’m still exited about Spain, for the reasons laid out above. But the potential reference to the Canary Islands through the coordinates from FTWD is a super interesting clue, and it involves dog/Sirius symbolism, which makes me very happy.

Also, the coordinates from FTWD supposedly led to a repeater station, which is a radio reference. That means, the repeater station is a Sirius symbol both as a radio reference, as well as a dog reference, in that the coordinates in reality points to a stretch of ocean near the Canary Islands.

Whatever the coordinates were meant to signify, they sure as hell didn’t point to no repeater station in Georgia.

So yeah. Might be nothing, but could be something. The off-season is for speculating.

#team delusional #bethyl #daryl dixon #beth greene #team defiance #the walking dead #beth x daryl #twd #daryl x beth #ftwd #twddd #ddtboc

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quitefair · 2 years ago

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alright time to gripe about inquisition again (what’s new)

dyou know i barely understood what the fuck was going on in orlais politically from just playing the game? i’m basic, i never read the masked empire, also by the time we hit like wewh i am absolutely not reading all the codex entries because im distracted with how pretty orlais looks VISUALLY and also mentally scarred from all the warden nonsense

but in doing research i found out a bunch of COMPLETELY WILD THINGS that the game does that they don’t??? talk about???

okay so here’s the deal:

Vivienne’s lover is this guy called Duke Bastien of Ghislain. A dude you have to help kinda save as part of Vivienne’s personal quest (I have even more gripes about how Vivienne’s character and arc was so poorly handled but that’s a post of its own)

So yeah this dude

Crusty old guy you kinda only see as some random B plot side quest with no relevance. But okay okay I went in and read up about him right?

He’s the head of the College of Heralds. Yknow what they do? They literally handle any and all problems to do with titles and lineage related to them among the Orlesian nobility. They were called in when Emperor Florian died in 9:20 Dragon without an heir. They were the ones that chose Celene over Gaspard as the new ruler of Orlais.

They’re technically the reason the entire Civil War happens in the first place!!!! The Fuck!!!!!!! I may be stupid but I don’t think anybody stressed on this in the game???

Also wait, there’s more yeah!!!

This dude had a wife (who died or something idek the details sorry) and had two kids - Calienne and Laurent

Calienne, mind you, went on to fuckin MARRY??? GASPARD DE CHALONS??? Duke Gaspard was this DUDE’S SON IN LAW???? A dude that he (as part of the College of Heralds) chose to snub as they chose his cousin as the Empress instead of him????

This is fucking wild you guys.

Calienne supports Gaspards claim to the throne despite what her father did, plays a part in the assassination of Celene’s mother, and eventually was murdered by Celene’s father and cousin (another thing I had to read with my own eyes was that Duke Motherfucking Prosper of Mark of the Assassin infamy was Celene’s relative. Oh also that his son Cyril is also on the Council of Heralds and is also the Orlesian representative at the Exalted Council??? What the Motherfucking Shit???)

On the other hand, we have his other child Laurent.

On first pass I seriously got him confused with the dude that tries to get the Inquisition to pay taxes to him cause he owns the land around Haven?? THEYRE WEARING THE SAME OUTFIT???

But apparently they’re not the same guy. And the only time you interact with him in person is in Skyhold after Vivienne’s personal quest where he thanks you for helping his dad or something. You barely see the guy, and he’s apparently the heir to all his father’s lands and titles, including the seat at the Council of Heralds?? While his BROTHER IN LAW is MOTHERFUCKING GASPARD DE CHALONS????

And despite all of this, the only more you can learn about him is through this absolutely random war table mission where you help him out and they give the Inquisition some insignificant strip of land in Orlais??

Dude what the fuuuuuck.........

#meera talks #dragon age #bioware critical #da critical #yeah sorry im getting more and more pissed WE COULDVE HAD A LOT MORE COOL SHIT!!!!#putting under a cut cause it's pretty long #da research and meta

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chicinsilk · 10 months ago

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US Vogue March 1989

FALSE WILD Robyn Mackintosh in a Patrick Kelly catsuit even has a lace-up front. Cotton chintz jacket and matching skirt. A tawny eyeshadow: Yves Saint Laurent Sunny Copper Golden Sunlight #69 Eyeshadow Powder Duo, earrings, M +J Savitt, gold bracelets, Karl Lagerfeld Jewelry, watch, Time Will Tell, tights, Donna Karan, leopard print pumps, Maud Frizon. Fashion editor, Grace Coddington. Hairstyle, Didier Malige for Jean Louis David, makeup, Andrea Paoletti.

FAUX SAUVAGE Robyn Mackintosh dans un ensemble de chat de Patrick Kelly possède même un lacet sur le devant. Veste en chintz de coton et jupe assortie. Un fard à paupières fauve : Duo de poudres d'ombres à paupières Sunny Copper Golden Sunlight #69 d'Yves Saint Laurent, boucles d'oreilles, M +J Savitt, bracelets en or, Karl Lagerfeld Bijoux, montre, Time Will Tell, collants, Donna Karan, escarpins imprimé léopard, Maud Frizon. Rédactrice de mode, Grace Coddington. Coiffure, Didier Malige pour Jean Louis David, maquillage, Andrea Paoletti.

Photo Sheila Metzner vogue archive

#us vogue #march 1989 #fashion 80s #spring/summer #printemps'été #patrick kelly #robyn mackintosh #yves saint laurent #karl lagerfeld #donna karan #grace coddington #andrea paoletti #sheila metzner #maud frizon #vintage vogue #vintage fashion

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bluejayblueskies · 29 days ago

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Blorbo Wrapped 2024

At the humble request of @organchordsandlightning - the (approximately) chronological list of this year’s blorbos!

I’m including both new blorbos and ongoing blorbos. My cutoff for what counts as a blorbo is also extremely loose 😂 the ones that are bolded and italicized are the Extra Strength Blorbos that make me want to chew through drywall

John Doe (Malevolent)

Parker Yang (Malevolent)

Katsuki Yuuri (Yuri! on ICE)

ART (The Murderbot Diaries)

Zolf Smith (Rusty Quill Gaming)

Oscar Wilde (Rusty Quill Gaming)

Howard Carter (Rusty Quill Gaming)

Will Darling (The Will Darling Adventures)

Harvey (Stardew Valley)

Nathaniel (The Bartimaus Trilogy)

Laurent (Captive Prince)

Damen (Captive Prince)

Chilchuck (Dungeon Meshi)

Vax (Vox Machina)

Percy de Rolo (Vox Machina)

Andy Mills (Lavender House)

Neil Josten (All for the Game)

Jeremy Knox (All for the Game)

Jean Moreau (All for the Game) (current blorbo supreme) (I think about him about 80% of the day)

Oh, I almost forgot tags! @shadow0haven @captaincravatthecapricious @seachanqe if you'd like

#i am almost certainly forgetting some #i can't recall if wilson and will graham were this year or last year....#i feel like it was last year though #the most important highlights of the year though were the RQG renaissance in spring and the AFTG renaissance in fall

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bow-and-talon · 9 months ago

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A WILD OWL APPEARED

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Saint-Cyr stares the owl down.

The owl stares back.

#the owl versus le hibou

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cristoferwhiss899 · 7 months ago

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Wild kratts x Infinite Train Au

Como sería la relación de Simon Laurent y Jimmy en el tren?

1° Seguramente mandaría a tomar por culo a Jimmy, por la ideología que el tiene sobre los pasajeros del tren (osea, el vato se mató a Tuba solo por que no era una persona como él)

2° se llevarían mal desde el principio porque seguramente Simón sería arrogante al ver a una persona nueva entablar una amistad con un Nulo.

3° pelea >:v

Ambos la pasarían peleando durante todo el viaje, pero poco a poco se harían amigos...

4° Es un villano en potencia, no le importaría matar a Jimmy para ser el rey del tren...

5° Seguramente dejaría atado al pelirrojo para que no hiciera nada en su contra, ya que le habría agarrado algo de cariño, a parte de que no puede matarlo de la misma forma que Grace (spoiler: dejó aquella máquina con el cuerpo de Grace)

6° Al final terminaría redimido, aunque con secuelas...

1° intentaría hacerse amigo de Simon, aunque sin éxito al ver que es un capullo.

2° le agrada los Nulos, razón principal de todas sus discusiones con Simon.

3° le agrada Grace, otra de las razones por las que pelean ambos, ya que Simon es un celoso de mierda.

4° Jimmy le salvaría el culo de ser tragado por un Gohm, aunque Simon no se lo merece mucho...

5° aplicaría la evangelización de Naruto con Simon, seguramente le llevaría mucho tiempo...

6° se llevaría a Simon a Tortuga una vez que sus números llegaran a 0.

#infinity train #wild kratts jimmy z #wild kratts

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tournament-of-the-twinks · 1 year ago

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Characters included in bracket

The Onceler from the Lorax (11)

Noise from Roleslaying with Roman (10)

Link from The Legend of Zelda (8)

Ambrosius Goldenloin from Nimona (4)

Enjolras from Les Miserables (4)

Chip from Just Roll With It (4)

Osamu Dazai from Bungo Stray Dogs (4)

Vash the Stampede from Trigun Stampede (3)

Hong Lu from Limbus Company (3)

Silver the Hedgehog from Sonic (3)

Julian Bashir from Star Trek Deep Space 9 (3)

Homestar Runner from Homestar Runner (3)

Keefe Sencen from Keeper of the Lost Cities (3)

Marvin the Magnificent from Jacksepticeye (3)

Ballister from Nimona (2)

Howl from Howl’s Moving Castle (2)

Yuki Sohma from Fruits Basket (2)

Hunter from The Owl House (2)

Nico di Angelo from PJO (2)

Prompto Argentum from Final Fantasy XV (2)

Tamaki Suoh from Ouran High School Host Club (2)

Mercutio from Romeo and Juliet (2)

Hamlet from Hamlet (2)

Daniel from Camp Camp (2)

Lear from Pokemon (2)

Asmodeus from Obey Me Shall We Date (2)

Nathan from Misfits (2)

Scout from Team Fortress 2 (2)

Nagito Komaeda from Danganronpa (2)

Alfredo Linguini from Ratatouille (2)

Tomoe from Kamisama Kiss (2)

Jermey Heere from Be More Chill (2)

Shin Tsukimi from Your Turn to Die (2)

Rui Kamishiro from Project Sekai (2)

Luke Skywalker from Star Wars (2)

Nei Huaisang from mdzs (2)

Lester Papadopoulos from The Trials of Apollo (2)

Vince Noir from The Mighty Boosh (2)

Rick Pratt from The Young Ones (2)

Haruka Sakurai from Milgram (2)

Lilia Vanrouge from Twisted Wonderland (2)

Riddle Rosehearts from Twisted Wonderland (2)

Kuzco from The Emperor’s New Groove (2)

Ennon from Good Omens (2)

Eric “Bitty” Bittle from Check‚ Please! (2)

Mars from Project Nought (1)

Twink from Q-Force (1)

Mike from Roleslaying with Roman (1)

Icarus from Greek Mythology (1)

Kajiyama Fuuta from MILGRAM (1)

Damien from Dream Daddy (1)

Mills from Be my Villian (1)

Kyo Sohma from Fruits Basket (1)

Tobias from Faroff (1)

Venti from Genshin Impact (1)

Kyoya Ootori from Ouran High School Host Club (1)

Bo from She-Ra (1)

Zazie from Trigun Stampede (1)

Leviathan from Obey Me Shall We Date (1)

Demon Eric from Good Omens (1)

Hypnos from Hades (1)

Jenson Endo from The Prince of Southland (1)

Yule from Wild Beast Forest House (1)

Lyney from Genshin Impact (1)

Kyle from She Ra (1)

Sampo from Honkai Star Rail (1)

Tartaglia from Genshin Impact (1)

Oscar from Tea for Two (1)

Ezra from Tea for Two (1)

Shut from Pretty Cure (1)

Merlin from Fate Grand Order (1)

Felix Escellun from Last Legacy (1)

Asra from The Arcana (1)

Julian from The Arcana (1)

Florian from Tea for Two (1)

Marlon from Tea for Two (1)

Errol from Tea for Two (1)

Billy Kaplan from Young Avengers/Marvel comics (1)

Chuuya from Bungou Stray Dogs (1)

Belphegor from Obey Me Shall We Date (1)

Haku from Spirited Away (1)

Anasui from Jojo's Bizzare Adventure: Stone Ocean (1)

Mizuki from Kamisama Kiss (1)

Kurama from Kamisama Kiss (1)

Sigma from Bungo Stray Dogs (1)

Gowther from Seven Deadly Sins (1)

Yukito from Cardcaptor Sakura (1)

Ren Ichimoku from Hell Girl (1)

Ashitaka from Princess Mononoke (1)

Shuntaro Chishiya from Alice In Borderland (1)

Bailin from Bailin and Li Yun (1)

Li Yun from Bailin and Li Yun (1)

Kappa from Castle Swimmer (1)

Siren from Castle Swimmer (1)

Jack from Check, Please! (1)

Al Leon from Appare-Ranman! (1)

Dr. Facilier from The Princess and the Frog (1)

Shang Qinghua from The Scum Villian’s Self Saving System (1)

Lio from Promare (1)

James from Pokemon (1)

N from Pokemon (1)

Bruno from Encanto (1)

Diego the Squire from Nimona (1)

Finnian from Kuroshitsuji/Black Butler (1)

Satan from Obey Me Shall We Date (1)

Ingo from Pokemon (1)

Akito Sohma from Fruits Basket (1)

Hatori Sohma from Fruits Basket (1)

The Man with the Yellow Hat from Curious George (1)

Laurent de Vere from The Captive Prince (1)

Miles Maitland from Bright Young Things (1)

Lance Mcclain from Voltron Legendary Defender (1)

Lelouch from Code Geass (1)

Edgar Valden from Identity V (1)

Hercules (pre training) from Disney’s Hercules (1)

Shinji Ikari from Neon Genesis Evangelion (1)

Connor from Dear Evan Hansen (1)

Orpheus from Hadestown (1)

Charlie Price from Kinky Boots (1)

Wallace from Pokemon (1)

Keith Kogane from Voltron (1)

Double Trouble from She Ra (1)

Shigure Sohma from Fruits Basket (1)

Ayame Sohma from Fruits Basket (1)

Langa from Sk8 the Infinity (1)

Jaskier from The Witcher (1)

Fay D. Fluorite from Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles (1)

Karube from Alice in Borderland (1)

#tournament of the twinks

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twdmusicboxmystery · 1 year ago

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The Daryl Dixon Official Trailer - So Epic!

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@wdway:

Isn't it beautiful? Apparently we're supposed to have a long ten minute preview on AMC plus some time early tomorrow. I can't wait. Also the music in the preview link above is Clarie Lune which means moonlight.

@wdway

I've already watched this preview about four times and I foresee doing another four or five before I go to bed tonight. So beautiful and I'm so excited. Does anyone know what the big, good to see you, was? Was it as @twdmusicboxmyster predicted and simply seeing Daryl Dixon back?

@galadrieljones

Omg it’s so lovely, I love the Claire de Lune in the background. I need to watch it more!!

@wdway

Can't wait to see the long preview tomorrow. Or maybe tonight if someone bootlegs it from SDCC.

@galadrieljones

I’m going to rewatch, and maybe bring a little speculative analysis. Also, super excited about the 10min preview! If there’s a bootleg I may still wait, like if the quality is poor.

@wdway

Totally understand.

@galadrieljones

(Though who am I kidding LOL if it’s in front of my face I’m going to watch it )

I have watched it a bunch now, and it is so sweeping and atmospheric. I can already tell I’m going to really like Clemence Poesy and her performance. The little shot of her watching the train go by with the people screaming inside makes me think we will see her in flashback, and therefore, possibly Daryl as well. What he says about things happening to change you, and how she responds that they were both “broken until the world ended” conjures the past and how it has impacted them both.

It seems like we were somewhat on point, predicting that Daryl will end up at the Abbey where the nuns have taken Laurent into custody. He seems to be regarded as some sort of salvation for humanity.

One major twist will be, I suspect, the reason for why. Is he immune? We’ll know soon. I will say I love the idea of zombie-fighting nuns with their great big arsenal. Lol. They fight when they have to, to defend their flock. If anyone understands the nature and purpose of the Good Shepherd, it will be Trappist nuns.

It was very cute to me how Laurent was copying everything Daryl did. Daryl ran his hand through his hair, then Laurent did, too. Daryl took a sip of water, then Laurent did, too. I already want to adopt Laurent and save him lol.

The enemy faction, I am going to take a stab at it being related to the nationalist group that executed the French teams of scientists, re: the WB coda. If there IS a Davinci Code parallel here, then they would probably be aligned with Opus Dei, who are trying to eliminate proof that Christ’s bloodline lives on as a way of keeping control over the narrative they’ve worshipped for centuries.

My guess is that they want Laurent dead because Laurent may carry inside of him some form of the cure that was developed by the teams, which they executed. Laurent would be the holy grail. This is because if there is a cure, then they will lose control of the narrative, which is probably that the scientists caused the end of the world. Laurent, if he is the product of cure-based research, would prove that they could have saved the world, if they had not been executed.

The revelation that Laurent is immune would cause an uprising against those who killed the people who made him that way. My last bit of wild speculation is that the first season will revolve heavily around the plot with Laurent as a gateway into the research done by the French teams, which would then reveal that there are more people like him, all over the world.

We will also learn at some point soon that not all of the scientists on this project are dead. Of course, the Primrose Team was in the US when the end of the world happened. So was Dr. TB Ellis. Finding them would create more vectors toward the research that took place, which may have produced a cure. Of course, they will have to find these scientists, after they find that Paris is in ruins and that all the scientists in France have been executed. They will have to defeat the nationalist group and escape France back to America. As a plot, it is a bit of an inverse to Dead City.

Rather than rescue the boy from inside the evil organization, we are trying to deliver the boy into a cell that theoretically lies beyond the evil organization. Looking backward to Diverged. Perhaps Carol makes some sort of discovery pertaining to Team Primrose while Daryl is in France, and perhaps she goes after him to tell him what she found, because it’s just that important. That’s pure guesswork though.

I was also thinking, let’s have some more wild speculation on this glorious Friday, because it’s fun: What would make a bunch of nuns believe that a young boy is the savior of humanity? That he is their salvation? Catholics don’t take miracles lightly.

I thought, perhaps they witnessed him die and come back to life, not as a walker, but as the same person he was, only immune. This would have huge implications for TD. Because it could set up what happened with Beth very unexpectedly for Daryl.

Let’s say the nuns assure Daryl of what they saw. Maybe Daryl is skeptical, because it seems like he might be. We know he’s perhaps stopped believing in God at some point, according to what he said to Pope in season 11. And so Daryl is skeptical but he goes along with it because he trusts Isabelle and the nuns and he is taken with Laurent and he is chivalrous, so of course he will help them. But then say Daryl discovers that it’s not God, it’s science that cured Laurent and brought him back from the dead. Of course thematically that’s a whole theme: science vs. God, where is the line, etc.

He discovers the research at the laboratory, whcih lead to Laurent’s immunity, and he discovers that this research had been taking place in multiple sub-locations around the world, or even just in a couple of other places, one of them being Grady in Atlanta. Watching him put two and two together there would be extremely exciting and emotional. It would set things up nicely for season 2, which would revolve around escaping France and getting back to the USA to find these scientists and figure out what the hell is going on.

@wdway

Love this. I think your spot on very close to what we'll see. I have more thoughts, I will share those later tonight.

@galadrieljones

I’m going to add one more thing, which is that if this is anywhere near the truth, it could be possible that Beth was recaptured by the CRM after “dying.” Whether she’s still in their custody, I don’t know, but the Snow-White parallels suggest she could be. Just a thought.

I also wanted to share just that I’m also thinking that it is possible he stowed away on some sort of freight ship and that’s how he got marooned. In the trailer, he’s fighting a guy in front of a sign that says, “Muster Station,” which is defined as “the place on a ship where passengers should assemble in the event of an emergency.” There are also multiple freight containers in the background after he jumps ship. So, seems like maybe, yeah, he was chasing something else entirely. I wonder what it was. Perhaps to do with Rick, but this will be the digression that leads him to his happy ending.

Also in the shot where he’s jumping ship, it looks like there are contrails, or vapor trails in the sky, like the kind left behind by aircraft. That could ofc be an illusion idk.

@wdway

Okay I just popped in and you need to go over to the regular safe zone group page and see what Domenica posted about her SDCC workday. She got a selfie with Greg N. She also said something that sounded suspicious to me of course she gushed about being a Bethyler and he said something to the fact that, well then, you're going to love the Daryl Dixon's, (I'm paraphrasing) spin-off something to that effect. Very open to interpretation.

@galadrieljones

Love this insight! Greg said, “Well then you should like the cool stuff that happens in the Daryl series.” !!

Ofc could mean a lot lol. BUT. She said she was crossing her fingers for a dream sequence which means even she, who isn’t TD, thought this could mean a Beth appearance.

Also isn’t Greg the one who spilled the beans about Grady being exploded and them all being dead a long while back? I think it was. Hmmm.

@wdway

Yes, that was Greg.

@wdway

What I actually came on is to ask you if there was a Fear clip floating around?

@galadrieljones

I haven’t seen anything, but I’ve been super distracted by the Daryl trailer. I’ll check around.

The reactions to Troy coming back are priceless lol

Plenty of ppl claiming we saw him as a walker, which, no. Also who would have thought that fans of a show about people coming back from the dead would be this incredulous about characters coming back from the dead

Maybe a test run for Beth. But ofc everyone would be stoked about Beth’s return except Carylers who will rightly be crying.

Fear setting the groundwork for plenty more fun resurrections that for sure.

Also it looks like there is no trailer for Fear 8b. One will not be released until closer to October…? Did they make some last minute changes????

I can’t really see any other reason? Unless they just couldn’t be bothered but that seems unlikely. Maybe they filmed some new stuff and don’t have what they want for the trailer yet?

@twdmusicboxmystery:

So, if there wasn’t a Fear trailer, what are these in reaction to? Was an announcement made about Troy?

@twdmusicboxmystery

Okay, I'm caught up. Finished watching DC and have the Daryl trailer playing on repeat as I type this, lol. Love the trailer! It’s great. I have thoughts on...everything. But I'll probably forget half of them. I'll leave DC for now, since you haven't finished it. But I think it has some very interesting implications, especially for the New York symbolism. And I may have some thoughts on a template they're using. Including how some of the Rick/Negan symbolism we saw during AOW might end up being fulfilled. I know I’m stating the obvious here, but they're definitely setting things up with these spinoffs.

As for the Daryl trailer, just like both of you, I need to rewatch a hundred times to get all my thoughts straight. But just a few first observations. Did we all notice that in this trailer, the captions say, I want HIM to know that I tried. So, the captions were wrong on the ones posted on SM? Also, people were wrong about the recorder. Or at least this trailer makes it look like they are. When he speaks, it looks like he's broadcasting, and people can hear him. Of course, we have to consider that the trailers can be spliced together in deceptive ways. So, maybe that one is still a question mark.

A note on how he interacts with Isabel. We all knew there wouldn't be romance between her and Daryl, but this is still worth noting. To me, the trailer proves the lack of romance. He interacts with her much in the way he would with Aaron or Carol. It's genuine and congenial--I'm sure they'll end up being close friends--but there's nothing tender or remotely romantic betwen them from what we see here. One of my favorite moments in the trailer is when she says the thing about Laurent reviving humanity, and he just tilts his head to one side. He manages to emote SO much skepticism in the way only Daryl can, lol. It practically screams "faith ain't done shit for us."

Which segues nicely into my next point. As you were saying above, Tarah, Laurent is clearly the Christ figure in this part of the story. Daryl's interaction with him (the hug) is far more tender than anything with Isabel. And obviously it's fatherly rather than romantic, but I can still see that Laurent and Beth will be parallels here, in the way that Daryl protects and cares for them.

It would be amazing if wherever he is taking Laurent, Beth is there, and that's how he first sees her. *sigh * cue a billion head canons* I agree with all you both said above. Looks so cute and epic and amazing. Love the music. Love the sweeping shots. Love the haunting little girl walker in the garden.

Love cemetery with crosses across the horizon. Everything looks freakin' amazing!

@wdway

I was wanting to show the tape recorder, it's incorrect this is Daryl talking about the Commonwealth, it's in America, not, It's an America, so sometimes these aren't perfect.

@twdmusicboxmystery, in this preview it does use the abbreviation 'em for them.

@twdmusicboxmystery

The one on Twitter says him. So they’re all different, I guess.

@wdway

That's why I say that we can't totally rely on what is written, that it could be a mistake by the person interpreting it. I will say what I watched was actually on AMC+. Right now they have all three previews available, the very short one with the overturned boat, the long 2 minute preview and the new one minute preview that was shown today. I will say I checked it out also in the longer preview when it first showed up on AMC+ and it also says, 'em.

Even in France we have X's. I thought this was a great shot too of the morning star he's carrying.

What I want to point out here is the hat. Remember the hat in Daryl's apartment an AZ. Hanging on the hook. We saw it when Carol went into Daryl's apartment with Dog in s10e21 Diverged.

I love the Beth floor. Black and white diamonds.

It's pretty bad when you’re truly hoping that the series live up to the promotional spots for it.

@wdway

Guys I loved everything that you wrote above describing this preview. Just a few thoughts about the previous in general. I'm really bummed that we didn't see one for fear. And I'm right there with you guys and saying how are people talking about the Fear preview when we can't view it. Maybe it was only for the people who attended SDCC.

Which doesn't make a lot of sense since you want to promote to a large audience and ny SDCC standards this year is very small because of all the strikes. If in fact Troy is in the preview and there's no reason why we should doubt it at this point that makes me even more excited about the teaser radios scene. Because what was the point of not clearly showing him when you announce hours later he was going to be in part 2. I feel more justified in my feeling that it was a tease for TD with that blonde hair.

@wdway

@galadrieljones

I love all your observations, @wdway. Especially the black and white floor. I can’t tell, but I thought maybe that Daryl had made a recording, then lost it, then it was found by the organization. To me, the thing they show looks more like tape player than a radio.

There also may be a theme beginning with recordings, imprints, etc. We know the French scientist watched a recording of Jenner before she was shot. We think that Daryl will discover something shocking via a recording as well. Computer hard drives, memory. Memory in general. I think and I hope this theme continues to vibrate under the surface of this story.

Yeah I saw the announcement about Troy via a secondary source. It’s a trustworthy account on twitter, but I don’t know where they got that info.

There really was very little information on Fear. Very odd if you ask me.

If they’re delaying the trailer until October, that would mean we’ll be well into Daryl’s spin-off by then. Maybe that’s why. Idk, maybe they made some sort of choice or change in terms of how the information in Daryl’s spin-off will impact Fear.

I do think Troy is returning, but I don’t understand what is with all the weird deflection and lack of information from tptb at this juncture. Why wouldn’t they make a formal announcement?

The rumor has been circulating for months, honestly. Just weird. Anyway.

@wdway

I believe it was in the article though that mentioned Laurent being 11.

@galadrieljones

That seems right! He seems like a cute lil 11yo

Still trying to figure out what the major surprises were supposed to be today though. If it wasn’t Troy, then what was it? What did we learn?? Maybe it’s just because we pay super close attention but other than the DD trailer which was amazing, there was nothing here we didn’t know, and even the DD trailer, while beautiful, was fairly expected. It didn’t contain any bombshells. I don’t even recall them mentioning Melissa McBride joining for season 2…?

@wdway

Them not mentioning MMB is going to be a real thorn in the carylers sides. They are so convinced that they're part of the fandom is going to be the difference between Daryl spinoff succeeding or being canceled. In their minds no one wants to see Daryl in France. The only way to save it is to let everyone know that Carol will be joining (The Carol&Daryl) show to save Daryl in s2.

@wdway

@galadrieljones

Well then LOL. I’m glad they didn’t mention Melissa. Again though…it’s weird! The information is out there. They must know.

@wdway

I left you a link, it's a very short article about what was discussed today in regard to part to a Fear. In this one it says that it was announced that it was Troy in the radio scene at the end of part 1. Then again there's some mistakes in this one also. They said that Fear Part 2 will begin the same night as Daryl's final episode on October the 22nd. Well apparently, these people cannot count 6 Sundays. Daryl's scheduled to end his the week before and then Fear Part 2 begins the 22nd.

@galadrieljones

Weird. Idk I think there’s got to be some confusion with what’s going on with Fear. The journalists are doing their best.

Or maybe it’s perfectly clear and just being poorly communicated idk.

#beth greene #beth greene lives #beth is alive #beth is coming #team delusional #team defiance #td theories #td theory #beth is almost here #bethyl #Youtube

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irish-dress-history · 11 months ago

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Gilt leather shoes in 16th c. Ireland

Drawing of a 16th c. Irish shoe by A. T. Lucas over a gilt leather wall hanging from the National Museum Machado de Castro in Portugal

In his 1518 description of Irish clothing, Laurent Vital says the following about shoes worn by Irish women and girls:

Elles portent petits soliers à singles semelles, bien jolys et mignotz, ouvrés pardessus d'aultres couleur de cuyr et parfois doretz de cuyr estainnet, comme s'il estoit doré, et comme j'ay veu porter les enffans parcy-devant, quant on leur achetoit des soliers de ducasse. They wear little shoes with single soles, very pretty and cute, finely worked on top with other colors of leather and sometimes adorned with gilt leather, as if they were gilded, like the shoes which were bought for children at fairs in past times. (translation by Dorothy Convery, edited by me)

In this post, I discuss what Laurent Vital meant by gilt leather and how it might have been used in 16th c. Irish shoes.

Sadly, we do not have any surviving examples of gilt leather shoes from medieval or early modern Ireland. This is unsurprising, because gilt leather is a fragile material which can be destroyed by excessive moisture, (Gilt Leather Society 2019) and most surviving Irish shoes have been found in damp locations like bogs, crannogs, and wells (Lucas 1956, Miller 1991, Nicholl 2023).

As Vital points out, although medieval doretz de cuyr or gilt leather looks like gilding, it is not really gold. Gilt leather was made from carefully prepared leather that was sealed with rabbit-skin glue and then had silver foil placed on top of it. The foil was then painted with a yellow varnish, giving it its golden appearance (Pereira 2012). Gilt leather could be stamped with patterns or painted with designs.

Painted gilt leather on a writing box belonging to King Henry VIII, made circa 1525 Victoria and Albert Museum collection

Learning what gilt leather actually was left me puzzled as to how the Irish made shoes out of it. Early 16th c. Irish shoes were largely made using a turnshoe or turn-welt construction. These methods involve sewing the shoe together inside out and then turning it right side out. In order to turn successfully, the shoe leather needs to be thin and flexible. Turnshoes are typically soaked in water to soften them before they are turned (Miller 1991, Nicholl 2023). I would expect that the layers of rabbit-skin glue and varnish in gilt leather would make the leather too stiff to turn. Also, as previously noted, being soaked with water is bad for gilt leather.

Although there are no surviving Irish examples of gilt leather shoes, there are a few continental European examples of episcopal sandals from the 12-13th centuries which appear to be embellished with gilt leather.

All of these shoes have a base layer of plain leather; the gilt leather is an applique which is glued or stitched on top. This method of construction is consistent with Vital's description that Irish shoes were estainnet i.e. adorned or plated*, with gilt leather. This method also explains how it was possible for Irish shoemakers to make shoes with gilt leather. Turnshoes of plain leather could be appliqued with gilt after they were turned right side out.

*estainnet: modern French étamer: to tin plate or to plate with metal

Irish shoemakers probably used gilt leather that was imported from Spain. During the Middle Ages, gilt leather was made in Spain and Portugal. It was not made elsewhere in Europe until the 17th century. (Pereira 2012). 16th c. Irish merchants imported luxury goods like silk and wine from Spain (Flavin 2011).

Neither Vital's account nor period illustrations give us any idea what kind of designs these Irish gilt shoes had on them. Rinceaux or scrolling foliage motifs like those on the sides of the 16th c. St. Brigid's shoe shrine are a likely option.

Further reading: Robert Gresh of the group Wilde Irish has written an interesting article on evidence for the use of gilt leather in 16th c. Irish armor. Download here

Bibliography:

Dictionnaire du Moyen Français 2020

Flavin, Susan (2011). Consumption and Material Culture in Sixteenth-Century Ireland. [Doctoral thesis]. University of Bristol.

The Gilt Leather Society. (2019). Conservation Challenges. https://giltleathersociety.org/conservation/conservation-challenges/

Lucas, A. T. (1956). Footwear in Ireland. Journal of the County Louth Archaeological Society, 13(4), 309-394. https://www.jstor.org/stable/27728900

Miller, O. G. (1991). Archaeological Investigations at Salterstown, County Londonderry, Northern Ireland. [Doctoral thesis]. University of Pennsylvania.

Nicholl, John (2023). https://broguesandshoes.com/

Pereira, Franklin (2012). Gilt leather/guadameci in Coimbra – comments on documents of the 12th and 16th centuries. Boletim do Arquivo da Universidade de Coimbra, 15, 169-180. http://hdl.handle.net/10316.2/5514

Ryan, Trisha (2022). Online Pop Up Talk: St. Brigid's Shoe Shrine. National Museum of Ireland Archaeology. https://www.museum.ie/en-IE/Museums/Archaeology/Engage-And-Learn/For-Adults/Online-Pop-Up-Talk-St-Brigid-s-Shoe-Shrine

Vital, Laurent (1518). Archduke Ferdinand's visit to Kinsale in Ireland, an extract from Le Premier Voyage de Charles-Quint en Espagne, de 1517 à 1518. http://research.ucc.ie/celt/document/T500000-001

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