#Kosuke Shirai

[thedarlingdoodles]

I live

[anotherfandom]

All in all, I'm really glad this chapter got adapted. It just is such a wonderfully goofy gag. Half the reason I'm posting these comparisons despite very little changes is because I want to share the chapter with people.

[ikemengoessbrrrrr]

I should make something like these more often

"Class 2-4 is going to be fine, we have reliable class reps"

The Class 2-4 reps:

I'm adding Satoshi, Kosuke, and Lum because I think it'll be fun having them

[synthitrizer80s]

Perm and Megane AGAIN!?!?!? NKFNJKEHJKHEeJHE

[darlingthebaka]

You’ll get ‘em next time bae

[yumedoca]

"Manga Kosuke" shows up in the anime more than once, including several episodes and at least one of the ovas, I think once he even got dialogue albeit in a crowd and not important dialogue.

Similarly curly haired stormtrooper shows up several times too, like once the Stormtroopers are throwing a party for Lum and he's just there with them and Ataru. Maybe it was the storyline where Lum left the earth and gave Ataru a doll of herself.

I also believe one Urusei Yatsura video game for the original Gameboy featured Perm and Kosuke; humorously they were an edit of the same base sprite!

Hai again, hope you're doing great!!

Since these were all sent by the same anon, I figured it was best to answer them all together..

Firstly, relating to the first two asks, I'm aware of Kosuke's cameos in the anime, the wiki has stated which all episodes it is and I very much know the most obvious cameo he made which would be in the 'Goat and Cheese' OVA, aka my favourite of the OVAs after 'Inaba the Dream maker'. I also do think I've seen Megane pop up sometimes in the manga, albeit it's very rarely and it's really hard to miss, but I do remember spotting him for at least one or two cameos (didn't know about Chibi though, I'll keep an eye out next time). The video game fact is really cool though!! Onto the next few asks...

Actually, I'm pretty sure that Megane was actually the one who got most of Kosuke's roles, funnily enough, in the last Kosuke ask I answered, @superamatista said this as well..

..one example being in electric jungle, the one who joined AtaMenShino in saving Lum was Kosuke in the manga but in the anime it was Megane. The main and obvious reason for this is because in the manga, Kosuke is Ataru's closest friend, but in the anime, Megane is given that role instead (while still having the antagonistic side to him), so naturally a lot of his dialogue is given to Megane instead. It's been a while since I've binged the original anime all together, but I've watched a bunch of UY episodes from the original series a while back after reading the manga chapters for them since I was curious how the anime would've adapted those chapters and literally most (like around 80-90%) of the lines and role belonged to Megane, even if he has added original bits. Now that I think about it properly, I think the other three stormtroopers mostly get their lines from Hokuto and the other nameless boys in the class, mainly Chibi and Kakugari (but there might be a rare chance where they do get Kosuke's lines I don't really remember though). Perm's lines are a combo of the nameless boys and a little bit of Kosuke, while Megane's is mostly Kosuke. Of course, they have added original lines which would suit their character added to the dialogues as well. I feel like the cases where they don't give Megane Kosuke's role and give it to Perm instead, is either when Megane already had a large original role or when the role doesn't fit Megane's character. The best example of the latter is the double date AtaLum went with Kosuke and his girlfriend, while in the anime it was Perm and his (not really) girlfriend because Megane WOULD NOT ever go a date with another girl, he's too dedicated to Lum and I think they even lampshade this.

And yes, I am aware Kosuke (and Hokuto) were in the first chapter, and then they disappeared for a while and reappeared permanently in chapter 26 I think. As to why I think Perm and Kosuke are different (and why I like Kosuke more) is mostly based on opinion really. And I'll be honest now, I've never really cared much about the stormtroopers (so sorry anon but it's true), I don't hate them but I don't really love them all that much either, Megane is the only one I like and it's mostly because of Shigeru Chiba's performance (great guy). The stormtroopers to me is just 'Megane and the others' because it's literally mostly Megane and to me at least, the others are just the one dimensional members of his gang. Since they show them off as 'mostly Megane' because favouritism, it's only natural that I don't pay much attention to the others. The only thing I remember Perm doing is going on the double date and that's it. But it isn't like that for Kosuke! To me, Kosuke has a sort of charisma that all of Rumiko's characters have, even the nameless students of class 2-4. I feel like the stormtroopers don't have this specific charisma since they are mainly Oshii's characters, not Rumiko's. I get Kosuke may not be the most noticeable character, but once you start paying attention to him, you'll get to see what a great guy he is. He's silly and a goofball and a very friendly guy, a good friend to Ataru and even though he does simp over Lum a bit, he isn't stormtrooper level obsessed, he only really is against Ataru when he does or thinks he'll do something wrong (unless he's a part of his scheme lol). He's decently popular with girls, he has a girlfriend (which even Mendo and somewhat Ataru don't have) and has got chocolate from a junior on Valentine's Day and he seemed to be getting along well with the girls at Asuka's school as well. His horny level is on average since he has been shown to read porn mags and such but he doesn't disrespect or grope women in real like like Ataru does. On his date with his girlfriend, they wore matching clothing and he seems forgiving of the fact that she's a huge eater and that she's a burden on his wallet, showing he does really love her (I distinctly remember Perm in the anime version stating he'll throw his girl off a cliff or something for Lum but I'm not sure if it's a real scene or not, I can't remember). Kosuke is one of the biggest menaces in the class with Ataru and Mendo, and teams up with Ataru and on rarer cases Mendo too to take Onsen down. And Kosuke just have a lot of moments I remember, the time where he was indirectly the cause for AtaLum to fall for the other (Megane did this in the anime), the time when he and Ataru and Mendo got drunk at school late at night, the time he got kidnapped by Mendo's giant octopus, all the times Kosuke and Ataru whack the shit out of Onsen and his little comedic remarks which feel much funnier in the manga than when said in the anime cuz the anime exaggerates the bigger jokes causing the smaller ones to fall flat (the jokes in the manga remain in a good balance and most of the jokes are around the same level of funny) Kosuke just has a lot to him which Perm doesn't have because only some of these things were either mostly reserved for Megane or split among the other stormtroopers or if you are talking about friendship, the stormtroopers together are much worse friends to Ataru than Kosuke. And like that, I disagree with the Perm is much more complex than Kosuke bit too. The manga omakes literally have an entire huge analysis on Kosuke (which makes me love him even more) and that's says a lot.

I think if I had paid more attention to Perm and the other two, maybe I can get more things to be interested about? But I feel like the average viewer would pay the most attention to Megane and just regard the others as extras. And I'm so sorry if any part made it sound as if I was insulting them cuz I didn't mean to and was only stating how they seemed to me personally. And it's cool if anon or anyone really, loves the stormtroopers or Perm over Kosuke, whatever it is, I know how it is to love small underrated characters and we're all different and have our own perspectives and that's what makes us unique, and in the end, we are fans of the same series.

Considering I've answered five asks at once, I am going to declare that this topic is closed (I'm sorry, I have other stuff to do). Microsoft Word says that this entire post is over a page long so do me a favor and reblog this if you love Kosuke :)

[a-space-opera]

[nocandnc]

Amazing, I hope they start dating.

[muffinmoonn]

who is mendo, i don’t know her

[incorrecturuseiyatsura]

Kosuke: In your opinion, what’s the height of stupidity?

Mendo: Moroboshi! How tall are you?

[thedarlingdoodles]

I just think they’d be neat.

[anotherfandom]

The addition of the octopus-faced dragon was inspired.

[ikemengoessbrrrrr]

Heard that Ataru's test results were terrible so Shinobu decided to help him study

[synthitrizer80s]

[darlingthebaka]

Look at my son.

Pride is not the word I’m looking for 😭😭😭

[yumedoca]

The reason why "Kosuke" shows up in the 87 anime as a backgrounder is a bit of an injoke if you wanna hear?

When producing the show, they considered having Kosuke be just like his manga counterpart and created a design for him. They also created a design for one of the extras that hung around Manga Megane/Satoshi with a chubby physique and curly hair.

However when deciding to increase the role of the then unnamed Satoshi/Megane, they decided to combine Ataru's two friend groups from the manga into one.

As a result, Kosuke was adapted in the anime as "Perm" whom had a slightly different design in that he lacked freckles and had curlier hair.

However as an internal gag, "Manga Kosuke" and "unused stormtrooper" were used as backgrounders throughout the series. Despite this, Perm is officially the real Kosuke of the 87 series as confirmed in Guides, interviews and model sheets.

Hai there, hope you're doing great!!

Thanks for the info, it's very interesting!!! I did know that Perm is in fact supposed to be Kosuke and that his real name is Kosuke too (I think I've seen images of the character model sheets). I also did know that the manga Kosuke has made cameos but the story about how they were initially going to put Kosuke (and the curly haired guy) in the anime is not something I've heard of before, so thanks for sharing!! And even though I know Kosuke and Perm are the same, to me the different versions of them are incredibly different people because of how much Perm is a flanderized version of Kosuke (as a result of splitting Kosuke's personality among all four stormtroopers).

Kosuke's cameo in the fifth movie caught me off guard though since I don't think it was documented anywhere online on the wikis and such, and I think people weren't aware of it lol.