#KKZ

[ginta-s]

2 new illustrations of my OCs: it's Andme Bichleg, the fierce assistant of Vaidyam (who wants to be the best doctor of the world) and Jidu Jaloux, a big leader of a cult, who wants to renew the world :D

[stephanericherthanyou]

Title: Relative Loudness Fandom: one piece Ship: kid/killer/zoro Rating: t Word Count: 1061 Summary: Like is too weak of a word, splitting like thin dough, a rotten board Killer hasn’t bothered to fix because it gets the sentiment across. Does it, though? Actions are louder than words, but that’s a line parroted by people who think age and wisdom are equivalent (then again, they’ve been smart or lucky enough not to get themselves killed for so many years, so maybe it is). That doesn’t mean words can’t be plenty loud. 

It’s good for Kid to have someone who appreciates weapons. Not like he does; to say that would imply a similarity that’s not there, a surface reading that ignores the sharp rocks below the clear water. Zoro appreciates them from a different perspective than Kid but with the same intensity, honed on swords alone but on all kinds of swords. They get to know weapons in the same way, not by rattling off specs (though Kid can do that very well, and when Kid had met him that was the only thing he’d had—homegrown weapons in rough imitation of pages ripped from catalogs, conversation overheard from older people with more money) but by holding, fighting, challenging the weapon to do its best and worst. The rest comes later, but it’s nothing without the first part.

AO3

[bbkoolkatz]

you're pregnant... katsuki made sure to remind you every single time you leaned/bent over to pick something up, when you attempted to cook something for him before he gets back from work, or even if you tried to make the bed in the mornings... he fussed over the littlest things, refusing to let you exert yourself in any manner, other than the exercises he planned out for you...

then front door burst open, and katsuki stomped in, arms loaded with grocery bags, as he kicked off his boots. his gaze immediately moved from the smiled you greeted him with on your face, to the vacuum cleaner, still on in your hand.

"the hell d'ya think yer doin'?" he barked, dumping the bags onto the kitchen counter. before you could even open your mouth to respond, he was already striding across the room, snatching the vacuum from your hands like it was some sort of threat. "are ya' outta yer damn mind?"

you blinked at him, caught completely off guard by his sudden outburst. "i was just cleaning, katsuki... relax."

"relax?" his voice jumped an octave, disbelief dripping from his tone. he jabbed a finger toward your growing belly, to remind you yet again, as if you weren't walking around with all day. "y' shouldn't be messin' with this crap!"

crossing your arms, you fought to keep calm. "babe i'm pregnant, not incapable... the living room was a disaster, and i wanted to do something about it."

"i don't give a damn about the livin' room!" he fired back, his hands flying as he gestured. "what if you tripped? or hurt yourself? or—"

"or what? did something to pass time until you came home?" you cut in, narrowing your eyes. "i wasn't doing anything dangerous, katsuki. it's vacuuming, not weightlifting."

his jaw tightened, the muscles visibly straining as his teeth ground together. "doesn't matter. this ain't happenin' again."

you raised a brow, letting out a disbelieving scoff. "oh, really?" you grabbed a pillow from the couch and lobbed it at him, square in the chest, and he caught it, his expression a mix of shock and annoyance. "you're being ridiculous!"

"ridiculous?" he repeated, his tone dropping into that familiar low growl that always made your heart skip. tossing the pillow aside, he pointed firmly at the couch. "sit. down. now."

you held your ground, the heat of irritation flaring up again. "katsuki—"

"don't 'katsuki' me!" he snapped, his stance shifting as his hands found his hips, and he watched you up and down, with that stubborn glint in his eyes... "you either sit, or i make you."

"you wouldn't dare," you shot back, glaring at him.

"wanna test me?" he challenged, stepping closer, daring you to defy him.

the sheer intensity of his protectiveness was as frustrating as it was endearing. with an exaggerated sigh, you flopped onto the couch. "there. happy?"

"for now," he grumbled, shooting you a final warning glance before heading toward the coffee table to start tidying up the clutter.

leaning back against the cushions, you watched him work, your earlier irritation slowly fading away, taking in the tension in his shoulders, the tight set of his jaw—he wasn't just being overbearing. he was scared, though he'd never admit it.

"you're way more stressed about this whole pregnancy thing than i am." you teased, breaking the silence.

"yeah, well," he muttered without looking at you, stacking magazines with unnecessary force, "i can't do much else, so i'm makin' sure you don' screw anythin' up."

a soft chuckle escaped your lips, "your impossible," you teased, picking up a pillow to hold it against your belly.

"yeah, yeah," he replied, his tone softer now. he glanced your way briefly, the worry in his eyes undeniable. "i just don' want anythin' happenin' t' ya' or our kid."

your heart softened at his honesty. "i get it, kats."

"good." he said, returning to his self-appointed task. "now shut up 'n let me finish this. i'll do it better anyway."

you gasped dramatically, by the jab at your cleaning skills, and threw another pillow at him, landing it against the side of his face, the shocked glare that followed was sooo worth it. and he just watched as you held his brat in your belly, laughing at him.

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[doktorventure]

He's sending selfies to his bf

[syxeye]

this is just me complaining but with moodeng going viral worldwide has finally taught me that you should never listen to white people talking about anything SEA related ever actually

[smashflamethenecromancer]

normalize being overtaken by the Satsui No Hado at the slightest inconvenience

[pa-pa-plasma]

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edit: the above reddit comment is NOT from a professional in any kind of animal husbandry, & that screenshot was shared by Lily Orchard (the sources I added are for what she's done if you aren't aware)

please stop reblogging this version as if it's evidence that OP is lying, I also believe the KKZ has subpar husbandry & the overall treatment of their animals is bad. a lot of professionals have come forward to give their own opinion on this & they all agree—the KKZ is an accredited zoo & should know better.

Not to be a killjoy (though it is what I do best) but the unsafe and rough handling of a baby Pygmy hippo in a pretty substandard Thai zoo being meme-ed into something funny and cute really shows just how much groupthink plays into public perception of animal welfare.

Moo Deng shows avoidance, threat displays and stress around her keepers that are constantly man-handling her, blasting her with a hose and harassing her. The enclosure is mostly concrete, which is horrible for her soft feet. There looks to be some substrate but there doesn’t seem to be any areas for wallowing or deep water wading.

There’s also very easy access of this hippo to the public with no places to hide. I’d love if someone could shed more light on the enclosures but from what I’ve seen it’s not great.

Also the free contact and forcing into tubs that the keepers do is only going to create an avoidant and potentially aggressive and dangerous Pygmy hippo.

But the public happily overlook that because she’s cute. It’s a similar attitude with seals too.

Stop rewarding bad husbandry with clout. Baby animals deserve agency and respect and to grow up without getting harassed and feeling the need to defend themselves constantly.

[eevee-d]

Hidan lore overthinking! Sorry bad english

The little information of Hidan's life completly brings Red flags all over.

OK. That one thing on the books when his whole village blamed a child Hidan for maybe killing an entire clan makes me think what kind of child they saw him as to be able to do all of that. Even if they confirmed later the Chinoike Clan killed each other, they still thought damn what if this fucking child killed them all.

This also means Hidan as a child thought to go to the place called "the Valley of Hell" where the Chinoike Clan got exiled to. Towards a clan that was dangerous af, and were also scary. The Valley of Hell was also referred as unlivable and smelling of sulfur. No one stopped him, who knows how long it takes from Yugakure to the Valley.

Then he finds the entire fucking dead, massacred by each other. Runs back to his village tells everyone and first thing they do is blame him.

By pure speculation of numbers, Hidan must've been 6 when the war ended. Which is not great. Getting raised through war probably did affect him as well. I know there's no information of Yugakure involvement in that war, but it's in the middle of the Land of fire and the Land of lightning so.

No information regarding parents so either:

Parent's whos kid left the village to a place called the Valley of Hell

No parents

No clue

Also the general idea of raising kids as soldiers and killing machines, and expecting it to be all good. To then be like: "fuck you were getting rid of the military" which how much Hidan talks about fighting like "letting steam off" (seperated to Jashin stuff) he must've liked fighting. It was an insult to him.

Also the Akatsuki have S rank Rouge Ninjas right? Was Hidan a top ninja at his village? Then we get the lack of Ninjutsu and Getsutsu. The symbol of jashin, the blood connection and immortality are never considered as anything jutsu right? These guy it's full Taijutsu and Jashin (which the fact that's never EVER explained that's crazy).

He called himself the slower attacker of the Akatsuki, but that's still crazy fast. He has a demonic momentum, even in the air moving his scythe around. He his beyond athletic too. (Go look at him skipping and spining Shikamaru's shadow).

His fighting is reckless. He throws himself in cause he knows he can't get killed and he is overconfident. But it's better being fast an eratic cause his main thing getting blood, That's why his weapon it's the way it is. He also relies a lot on his ritual and Kakuzu. He never expects people pulling him off his circle. -and when his head cut off he just relies on Kakuzu helping him out any ways.

It's said, he found Jashinism when he wanted to leave the village for demilitarizing. There is theories that Jashin isn't real nor the religion at all, and that Hidan it's immortal by chance. Like Hashirama healing factor being so good. So this mf got Immortal regen or something at birth. If he gained immortality otherwise, affecting the reality of his religion is also out there.

Hidan's approach to religion is also weird. Options: He belives a lie or he made it up and knows it's bullshiting OR it's real.

Hidan prays for LONG amounts of time (which Kakuzu complains about often) would he made up waiting for 30 minutes long just because? Or he belives in needing to pray for that long. Hidan constanly complains about "Kakuzu if this is another of your extra money missions i'm gonna be pissed! Let's just go for the Jinchuriki" I find it weird he would be 30 minutes praying in the ground if he didn't belive the HAD to do it (Disconnected to any validity to Jashisim). Hidan did try to annoy others (mainly Kkz) on porpose so much so... BUT he also referes to praying like 'a pain in the ass, but the comaments are very clear'.

Idk which is crazier: He doesn't believe it and made up shit he even complains about in his religion just to get something out of it (like a justification or martyrs) OR he fully believed in it and still was like "shit i have to pray 30 minutes for this bullshit".

ok... Important part here:

CAUSE WHY TF did Hidan get such a center persective during the Akatsuki plan exposition? (during the 2 tails extraction). He was the newest member ""besides Tobi"" and we got and explanation towards him from Pain himself (fish out the water, the character doesn't know something so they get a explanation so the audience gets it too). I think how the time frames got written sound pretty different based on other stuff but that doesn't matter. He jumps and critics the Akatsuki and Pain directly, we also get him gritting his teeth. Like damn we got introduced to an inner conflict of Hidan's believes against the akatsuki for no reason????? Right after this we also get a positive interaction with Kakuzu and Hidan. Kakuzu doesn't get mad at him for being so againts the leader, and gives him his headband instead. (which he kept tight on his arm for those 3 days of 2 tails extraction) His headband must also be unique compared to others that village no longer has ninja so getting another one can't even be a thing really.

I'm sad their arc was rushed and plenty of stuff got cut. But I understand the circuntsances: crazy schedule, Kishimoto sick, an arc centering someone other than Naruto.

Kakuzu prison and hashirama backstory was obviously there but we didn't get it. Hidan getting his backstory in extra material is also insane. I have no idea if the plan was still killing them by the end of a (longer version) of the arc or not. But maybe they would've gotten Sasori treatment. Get their backstories before they lose. They were the only ones that got cut short so much (besides Konan but she got the backstory in full flashbacks at least).

Kishimoto even had more extra funtions for Hidan's Scythe too. Constantly getting small answers about Hidan in random interviews with him also show what else there was to add to him. +Saying Hidan was his fav Akatsuki and villan too. Sad he also cut Hidan coming back in the war arc cause he had put so many characters, but he probably felt he couldn't do all he wanted to do with him- so left it there.

aka. I love Hidan's character :)

[monigote001]

Heya! Love ur OC (⁄ ⁄•⁄ω⁄•⁄ ⁄)

I CANT I CNAT I LITERALLY CANT IM DYING THIS IS SO PRETTY MY CHILDREN XKVM KKZ YOU DRAW SO PRETTY THE COLOTS AASJSJFJCJKVJ I CANTTTT I CRY

[fussin4nothin]

so worried about elephant care in khao kheow zoo, demonizing thai people taking care of their animals. Now wheres all the twitter threads, the tumblr posts about the flooding in thailand that affected the animals- calling for everyones support to care for these animals.

Elephants, not in KKZ, are dead because they werent trained with the OHH SO BAD TOOLS that saved OTHER elephants in nearby camps, they weren't used to people, they weren't used to the tools used. But yeah, SEA's animal husbandry is not up to par to western countrys husbandry.

You guys can type and theorize, conspire about all these bad things about how SEA or literally just how people outside of europe, outside of north america, outside of ENGLISH SPEAKING ONLINE SPACES.

So concerned about animals that you're not caring for, not knowing the first damn thing about what to do in emergencies like this.

I hope you all learn to stop making this dreaded posts calling for the pulling back support for these zoos. Assuming everything from videos, doing all you can to theorize- yet NOTHING comes up when people and animals are ACTUALLY suffering.

[theboxfort]

I would also like to add a few extra things from another thread to the post! Khao Kheow Open Zoo (the zoo Moo Deng lives in) is a major player in our country's wildlife conservation effort and they've had reintroduced a LOT of animals back into the wild (which a LOT of people are weirdly skeptical of? Like they couldn't believe we would, y'know, care about animals), some of which includes (but is not limited to):

20 rusa deers, 14 muntjacs, 230 silver pheasants, 140 red jungle fowls, and 210 Siamese fireback pheasants in 2019 [Source]

(All translation in alt text)

Asian woolly-necked storks in 2022, which were later able to lay their eggs in their natural habitat for the first time in 40 years [Thai source Thai source 2, English source]

As well as numerous hornbills!

Some people have also had (valid) concerns that Moo Deng's enclosure is fairly small, but that's because she's in a nursing suite! That way zookeepers are able to monitor her while she grows. Her siblings were also raised there when they were born, and later when they are a bit older, they were moved to bigger pens. Other zoos do this too, so why is it a crime for us to do it?

It seems to be a recurring thing where an animal from a non-US/European place gets a bit too popular causes people to start being racist towards the country housing the animals. Foreigners accuse us of abusing the animals while doing literally no research on the zoo's background, either because the information is written in another language, or simply because they don't care

I would like to end this post with this quote from the OP of the thread I linked earlier

found ANOTHER way more in-dept thread about Khao Kheow zoo to share. once again I'm obligated to put it here

my other post about this

full screenshot here I also posted this reddit thread on my other post linked above

TL;DR: Please don't trust random (may I add racist?) foreigners on the internet over locals who actually knows what they're talking about. thank you 🙇‍♂️

[bbkoolkatz]

pestering your boyfriend for kisses, 'cause his lips feel oh so soft against yours, and you just can't get enough;

"kats, gimme kiss," you said, lips puckered playfully.

he leaned down, gave you a quick peck, then turned right back to the pot, stirring with that trademark scowl of concentration. you grinned, pleased at his compliance.

three seconds passed.

"kats, gimme kiss."

he sighed but leaned down again, giving you another quick peck, his eyes flicking to you with an almost imperceptible smile before he focused back on the meal.

you counted under your breath. one… two… three…

"kats, gimme kiss."

this time, he didn't look quite so amused, but he still obliged with another quick peck before turning away, grumbling, "y'know, I'm tryin' to cook here."

your grin widened. "kats, gimme kissss."

he groaned, but again, leaned down, brushing his lips against yours—albeit a bit more impatiently this time. "last one," he warned, returning his focus to the pot with a shake of his head.

and of course, you just couldn't let it go.

"Katsss, gimmeee kissss," you teased, drawing out the words with an innocent smile.

he stopped stirring, shoulders tensing as he let out a slow, deep breath. he turned to you, brow raised, the faintest glint of annoyance mixed with affection in his eyes. "you want me to kiss you or do you want dinner, huh?"

"can't I have both?" you shrugged, batting your lashes.

his lips twitched as he fought back a smile. "listen," he said, leaning down. "if I give you one more, you better be done askin' 'til after dinner, or i'll start chargin'."

"and if I don't?" you stifled a laugh, feigning serious thought.

"then you can forget dinner," he said, finally breaking into a grin. with that, he leaned in, his kiss lingering just a bit longer, with his hand cradling the back of your head.

"worth it," you whispered, as he pulled back.

"you're so damn lucky I tolerate your ass..." he rolled his eyes and shook his head, finally cracking a soft laugh as he went back to the stove.

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[shizuostrans]

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moo deng is such an endlessly frustrating topic.

using an american system like aza accreditation as the international standard of all animal welfare shifts nuance away from how zoos in other countries operate under different costs, different structures, and different incentives.

using racism as a deflection of the criticisms aimed at moo deng's care shifts nuance away from the animal husbandry practices in need of reform and how it generating so much revenue will reinforce those issues.

it's stupid to treat what's happening with moo deng as totally innocuous or totally abusive when it's a very delicate and complicated issue. seaza has the most nonrigid guidelines across its countries within waza regarding animal welfare and much of the problems with moo deng are defended/overlooked when they shouldn't be, but it makes sense when you factor in organizations like peta CONSTANTLY trying to devastate economies over either false or misdirected flak. they've even done it with thailand and kkz before.

there is something to be said on the harm of moo deng's displays of distress and aggression being anthropomorphized into "cute" behavior just as there is something to be said on the harm that the western world imposes on other countries for not meeting their criterion. but the internet's gotta internet. whatever. i'm filtering out moo deng i hate seeing this shit.

[guraholic]

Kkz no more schizo posting for now I’m goin 2 bed

[local-hellhound-steals-spaghetti]

Okay, so I'm gonna contribute to the discourse as someone who did research at both Khao Khaew and the now demolished Dusit Zoo, both part of the Zoological Parks Association Under Royal Patronage (ZPA). And as someone familiar with the workings of AZA zoos as a contrast.

I will concede that on one hand, standards and practices leave a lot to be desired. Unfortunately part of it is connected to the same social norms that have allowed JJ Market to continue the exotic pet trade, animal cafes and roadside zoos to proliferate, and people to own trendy dog breeds that clearly don't belong in Bangkok. And it's what leads to a lot of stereotypic and distressed behaviors passed off as cute (including but not limited to Moo Deng); this is before the toxic element of social media is added to the mix.

There's also economics. Yes, Thailand is technically an industrialized country, but in the same way that Indonesia and Vietnam are (contrast with Singapore, which is proportionately ahead of most Western countries). It's important to see what's between those gleaming skyscrapers. And that is a contributing factor to a lot of resource shortfalls for the zoos themselves; that's not getting into COVID and the ripple effect of closing Dusit Zoo without an alternative in place.

In that regard, the damning thing is that the standards of ZPA zoos are actually leaps and bounds ahead of not just the country but the region (minus Singapore; I would argue that it's actually unproductive to bring its zoo up as a comparison). Like look at Pata and the now defunct Tiger Temple; places that Westerners reveled in as late as the 00s. At least in ZPA case, they have also done essential conservation work; especially for clouded leopards, hornbills, and sun bears.

That doesn't make it any less WTF when I see a lot of clout-chasing vids that

Still part of me can't help but get defensive at the manner of fixation from a primarily western crowd. Both from those who use Western/Industrialized zoos as a way to contrast, as well as the PETA-types.

I do *not* think you yourself are being racist. If anything it's paternalistic to assume that a zoo in Thailand can't be held to higher standards. *However*, I have found a very patronizing mentality among many other western critics that does veer into racism frequently. You are already familiar with the way anti-zoo folks will take something out of context to fit their agenda; now force that through an othering lens.

At the same time, I will concede Thais are glossing over issues and practices when they rush to defend KKZ. Considering the context of how they are approached, I empathize with why they are defensive. But many do downplay and refuse to tackle the aforementioned social norm in how animal husbandry is viewed by wider populace.

TLDR: KKZ and the other ZPA branches have a ton of issues, a lot of those issues are socially systemic, and there should be pressure to reform. At the same time, it shouldn't get canceled, especially considering the important bts work it does and especially the immediate alternatives. And that pressure to reform should be accompanied by resources.

Hey there I really appreciate you sharing your research into the facilities! My intention of the posts has never been to "cancel" the zoo or to dictate their protocols. I don't believe in any sort of western dictation to other countries.

Honestly, I completely understand the defensiveness towards criticism of the handling of Moo Deng - she's an icon, she's brought in millions of dollars into the Thailand economy and the zoo's profits. Tourists are travelling all around the world to see her!

Although it has gotten to the point where their defensiveness is veering into delusion, with people insisting that pygmy hippos love it when you smack them and chase them around so it's fine actually... but I digress...

And I'm sure that the keeper thinks what he's doing is completely fine and not an issue. And if it generates clicks and views, that's good for the zoo, right? So why would they see any point in changing their practises?

I guess my hope is that maybe they might use those millions of dollars to improve conditions for the animals and the staff, provide resources for collaboration with zoos like Singapore Zoo and give keepers more resources to review and improve current pracises.

But they won't do that if their current poor animal husbandry practises are reinforced with clout and feverant defense of the keepers (it's actually kind of amazing how loyal people are to this one keeper!)

So now they have money and potentially more resources from this whole thing - but they're probably not going to use it to change practises that got them that money in the first place.

Anyway, I agree with your points and you've summed it up well!

[amynxddd]

I live like 20 mins away from KKZ. One thing people don't talk about enough is the space it has. I can't stress how BIG the place is. You have to DRIVE AROUND to see each enclosures zones because of how spacious it is. 5 hours is NOT enough time to see everything in there. And that's only the part where visiters can get to, the zoo takes SO MUCH space IN A MIDDLE OF A FOREST MOUNTAIN where animals are far away from city buildings!! (And of course there are monkeys in the SEA mountains. Fork found in kitchen)

I've seen people worrying about Moodeng and Khao Kheow zoo in general, can't help but also notice literally everyone making accusations are foreigners who are not Thai/local and doesn't actually know about the zoo outside of socmed....

thankfully, some people are correcting the misinformation, as a fellow Thai and supporter of Khao Kheow zoo, I feel obligated to share it here

(^ this exactly!! there are a lot of zoos to attack in Thailand, Khao Kheow is NOT one of them. in term of both quality and ethics Khao Kheow is one of the best in Thailand, not a super high bar but yk)

(^ !!!! important too. aside from the keepers' safety its also so that it makes it easier to do checkups or treatments on her)

ok I think that's long enough and tackled many of the points the original tumblr callout made. If you want to read more check the comments in the link

also ahaha-