#Jim tds x you

[wutheringcaterpillar]

Jim from TDS gets so fuzzy brained and dumb when he’s pounding into Y/N, because he wanted her for so long and he finally has her. he feels he deserves to have what he wants, and also making sure everyone knows she belongs to him.

Y/N could be either Jim’s son’s gf/ex-gf, Jim’s daughter’s best friend, or Jim’s best friend 🫣

Btw you’re doing such a great job with your fics!!!

Warnings: Age gap (Jim is in his 40s, reader between 18-25), p in v, Jim’s a bad dad, unprotected sex, creampie, stalking social media, mentions of masturbating, taking inappropriate photos without consent, hickies

Thank you for the request I had a lot of fun with this! Hope you enjoy!❤️

Jim was reclined in his bed, his hand massaging his hardened member while he scrolled through social media photos of you. He was completely fucked ever since the day his son brought you home and may or may not have developed unhealthy coping mechanisms that his son had what he couldn’t.

Even in his dreams he could see your attractive silhouette, continuously replaying fake scenarios of you straddling him, on your knees batting those innocent lashes up at him begging for his cock.

You had him wrapped around your fucking finger without even knowing, you were completely and utterly hypnotizing.

“Fuck y/n..” He kept replaying a video on the beach, only thing covering you was a skimpy little bikini. Jim could just imagine what was underneath, reminiscing how even when he lay in the sun tanning chair, he couldn’t help but snag a few photos when you weren’t paying attention.

Position of you bent over picking up pebbles from the sand, when you came up for air from the water, specs of water droplets painting your chest, running down your cleavage.

He needed to have you, wanted to be entangled in the sheets with you, hearing you moan his name lustfully, screaming as he made you cum.

Your body was so young, hardly flawed, and had curves in all the right places. He hated to see you leave the house but loved to watch you walk away.

In the midst of coming to his high, the door slammed downstairs and he could hear yelling, what sounded to be you.

Curious, and for caution he pulled up his pants, huffing in irritation that he was interrupted from his intrusive, sexual imaginations.

“You are such an ass! Just because I enjoyed an evening with my friends doesn’t give you the right to go out with some random girls to some party and kiss them! You’re ridiculous, did you even think about me for a singular moment?!” This was the moment Jim had been waiting for, as awful as it may sound, he wanted you two to break up. He wanted the opportunity to arise for him to be there when you’re upset, knowing that there was a chance for you two to be together.

Jim wasn’t stupid, there were many times where you “accidentally” brushed past him inappropriately, there were plenty of stolen glances and obscene gestures whenever his son Caleb wasn’t around. You wanted him just as much, but due to your relationship with his son, you hadn’t gone any further. He’d constantly have to excuse himself to the restroom to deal with the repurcussions, seeking out a sweet release.

“You’re over reacting, besides I’ve been meaning to put an end to this dwindling flame. We were never going to work so figured, why not just end it the easy way.” Jim was in shock that Caleb would do such a thing to a girl, especially you. He had taught him better than that, granted he did cheat on his mother but that was besides the point.

Hearing footsteps run up the stairs followed by a door slam, Jim poked his head out hearing your sniffles from downstairs. What kind of man would he be to not check in and ensure you were okay?

“Y/N?” You were seated on the cushioned sofa, mascara flowing messly down your cheeks from weeping, but that voice…that masculine, caring, attractive voice had your glancing up from your emotional turmoil.

Jim was standing there in his pajama pants and black t-shirt, his reading glasses tucked in the hem of his shirt while his peppery hair was slightly disheveled.

“Oh I’m sorry, I was just going to head out. I didn’t mean to wake you.”

“No, no. Stay please. My son’s an idiot and I can assure you I didn’t raise him to be that way.” He took a seat next to you, trying to act concerned when in reality his eyes kept glancing at your thighs, the way your skirt hardly covered anything. Keep it together Jim, jesus.

The close proximity and the smell of Jim’s cologne was raising the tension, and an idea popped into your head. If Caleb thought he had the right to hurt you, you would hurt him ten times worse.

Jim’s crystal blue, alluring eyes were locked on your in a transfixed state of mind, heart pumping with adrenaline when he settled his hand on your thigh in a way to “comfort” you.

He was radiant, smart, and overwhelmingly attractive for a man in his forties. When he touched you, goosebumps formed on your skin, breath hitching in your throat. Was this a bad idea, most likely, but temptation and profound desire had a hold of you both.

“I um- I always thought you were a nice girl Y/N, and beautiful, kind, sexy- fuck what the fuck am I saying.” He wanted to hit himself for his stammering of words, rolling off his tongue without even thinking, but you simply laughed, blushing from his clear embarassment. When he tried to pull away his hand, you moved it back further up just nearly underneath your skit.

“Jim, it doesn’t bother me. I’ve always thought you were quite sexy too, I mean fuck you’re a total dilf and I’ve always imagined what you looked like underneath those clothes. How fucked up is that? My own boyfriend- well ex’s dad.” You glanced down at the floor, eyes skimming the carpet trying to find a way to justify your feelings, that they weren’t morally wrong.

Brushing a strand of hair behind your ear, he slid his finger down the length of your warm neck, gaining your attention.

There was a momentous silence as you stared into one another eyes, an immense sense of crave and desire coursing through your veins.

Closing the distance, you smashed your lips against Jim’s, hands settled on his cheeks needing him desperately. At that moment the air in the room seemed to disappear, the oxygen slowly didsapating from Jim’s lungs. He was in disbelief that this was actually happening, he was kissing his son’s ex girlfriend who he’d been masturbating to all summer long.

Your lips were soft, smoothe, and you were surprisingly good at kissing for how young you were. Unable to resist, his tongue lapped inbetween your lips as he pulled you onto his lap, his hardened cock rutting against your dripping mound desperately needing you, forgetting Caleb was just upstairs.

He held you like a woman, his hands grasping at the chubby skin of your ass cheeks underneath your skirt, roaming and massaging the delicate skin roughly.

“Fuck Y/N… you don’t know how long I’ve waited for this moment…” Your lips roamed down to the crook of his neck, sucking and rotating your tongue, surely leaving a mark causing him to release a disgruntled groan.

Your hands fumbled with his belt, craving to be filled with his cock while your pussy throbbed in your panties, slick merely dripping from your cunt.

Shedding yourself of your shirt, Jim’s eyes widened from the sight of your well rounded, perfect tits, they were everything he had imagined them to be and more.

His hands grasped the jiggly skin, eyes nearly rolling to the back of his head in satisfaction. Hold it together Jim, what would she think if you busted just from the sight of her fucking tits, pathetic man.  

His brain seemed to turn to a puddle, any prior thoughts lost from your hypnotizing body. He had to have you right then and there.

“Well, are you going to fuck me or not, because I really…” You trailed off you sentence, running a singular finger down his lip, eyes focused on him with a lustful gaze as you grinded against his lap, needing more.

“Really, need you inside me, my pretty pussy aches for you Jim.” Within second he flipped you onto your back, shedding himself of his clothes and tearing down your skirt and panties down in a animalistic frenzy.

He had never seen such a perfect cunt in his life, so in tact, so beautiful, and dripping for him, god how his dick was felt like it was going to burst any minute. His size took you by surprise, Jim wasn’t small by any means, his cock a good eight maybe nine inches, this was going to be fun.

Your hand grazed the back of his neck, pulling him down just so your lips brushed against his ear.

“Hope your cock is better than your son’s, wouldn’t want to be dissapointed.” He took that as a challenge, one that he knew very well he was going to win.

“My son, doesn’t seem to know how to pleasure his woman and I’m going to make sure he and everyone else knows who fucked you right.” Your eyebrow quirked up in interest.

“Well go on then, fuck me like no other man could.” Jim had never been this nervous in his life to fuck a woman, but you- you he didn’t want to leave unsatisfied. 

He didn’t even need to glance down before pushing the head of his thick shaft deep inside of you, claiming you as his.

You gasped from the sudden intrusion, nail’s scraping against the muscles on Jim’s back. He smirked satisfyingly, leaning down to kiss you once more, shoving his tongue roughly into your mouth, desperately needing to explore every inch of you, craving more and more.

He pumped quickly into you, patience being non existent, the feel of your hot, indisputably tight walls clenching to his length. Your boobs bounced with each powerful thrust. His lips trailed down to the warmth of your neck, tenderly sucking lavender marks into your smoothe skin, needing people to know who you belonged to now.

“Oh Jim, more, more, please…” Oh the velvet, captivating sound of your strained moan had his horny brain whirling, eyes merely fluttering closed from the sweet descent of your exasperated tone.

Your pussy was throbbing from pleasure, being filled to the brim like no other man had fucked you before.

Your fingers intertwined in his hair, scrunching at his gray, partially wavy hair, pressing him against your body as he fucked you relentlessly. His free hand cusped at the cushiony skin of your boob, rolling the jelly like skin.

He needed to see you in another position, he need to see himself filling your cunt.

Standing up causing you to whine from the empty feeling, he picked you up with his strong arms effortlessly as if you weighed nothing before bending you over the sofa.

“Oh!” Jim slapped your ass and pulled your head back aggresively by the strands of your hair, plumetting his cock into your heated, tight walls simultaneously.

“Fuck! Fuck Jim! Ah!” He didn’t hold back, striking deep within your aching core over and over, his balls slapping against your skin with each powerful thrust. He had never seen an ass bounce back against him so poetically and perfectly, he was nearly salivating on the mouth looking down at you bent over on display for him and only him. Watching your pussy swallow his dick with each desperate rut, god you were stunning.

Hearing you man his name and take his cock so well was sending him over the edge, his dick pulsating in you before he even had the chance to think. 

As you pounded your ass back against him, your bottom lip was becoming increasingly swollen from how much your teeth had been biting at it from the immense pleasure.

“Jesus, you’re fucking amazing, fucking beautiful, taking my cock so fucking well. Tell me who you belong to.”

“You Jim. All yours, completely yours. I-I’m going to-Ah-“ He slapped your ass cheek fiercely once more, focusing on the way you moaned his name, the way your back arched as you came undone.

Your knuckes turning white from the grip they had on the cushioned surface, toes curling from your orgasm. The euphoric, alluring sensation taking over every part of your body.

That didn’t stop Jim from going to pound town. Slamming your hips down against him, rutting desperately and bottoming out deep within your dripping, aching cunt. He wad close.

“Gonna fucking cum- want me to fill you up love. Hm? Having my cum spilling out of you like a faucet for days.” You nodded desperately moaning for him to cum at the sound of his gruff voice

“Jim, Jim, please. I need your cum, need you to paint my fucking insides white, right now. Now.” At that moment you could feel his thick cock pulsate within your core, his cum shooting straight up into your cervix.

“Fuck, fuck y/n… I’m fucking cumming.” The sweat beaded at your forhead, his own dripping down from his hair onto your back.

He had never felt a high so unfathomably pleasurable, he finally felt like he had accomplished what he always wanted- needed to. You were finally his. 

Pulling out he stretched your cunt, pulling the sensitive, reddened skin apart with his large digits, seeing the art he had created with his milky white cum flowing freely out of your alluring pussy that was still twitching from your orgasm.

Caleb turned and twisted in his bed, the constant strange sounds keeping him up. Deciding to investigate, he grabbed the bat from his room before making his way downstairs only to be blindsided with his own dad intertwined with his now ex-girlfriend whom was covered with hickies on her neck

“What the fuck is this?! How did this-How could-“

“That’s how you treat a woman son. Maybe take notes because let me tell you, she’s a keeper this one.” You smirked on the couch, nuzzling your nose against his chest being fully happy with your decision to sleep with your ex’s father. He was already proving to be more of a man than Caleb ever was.

“Ready for bed love?” Jim held his hand out for you, wrapping his robe around your shoulders while Caleb stood there fuming at the actions of his own father and you, disbelief that you’d go this far, making him question if you ever really gave a shit about him or just dated him for his dad.

[ilovetoxicfictionalmen]

DON’T LET ME STOP YOU

KINKTOBER DAY 15 - CAUGHT MASTERBATING WITH JIM (TDS)

Pairing.| Jim x fem!reader

Summary.| You babysit Jim’s kids, he happens to catch you going down on yourself in his living room.

Warnings.| Dubcon, masterbating, p in v, age gap, power imbalance, peeping tom, infidelity, implied breeding.

Word count.| 1.3k

Notes.| I have been warned not to watch this horribly written film, so again I'm just going off tiktok.

He wasn’t supposed to be home this early. Let alone be watching you with your knuckles deep inside of your cunt, on his couch. But there he was, shamelessly leant against the doorframe as his mouth drooled and lustful eyes ate you alive. 

“Mister-!” you’re lost for words, your throat clenched and body shook. 

You felt too paralyzed to reach for your bottoms on the edge of the couch. You never meant to end up like this. But you were watching a movie to help pass the time and when a rather steamy scene came on, you felt like you were in the movie. The beer that Jim had offered you before he left didn’t help in the matter. 

“This what you always do when the kids go to sleep?” Jim murmured, his words almost untranslatable from how watery his mouth was. 

“No sir!” you squeaked. 

“Well, don’t let me stop you” Jim exhaled as he resisted the urge to rub his clearly already formed erection. 

“M’sorry!” you apologized pathetically and scrambled to make yourself decent. 

“What are you doing?” Jim frowned as he moved towards you, his arms crossed over his chest, his footsteps creaked loudly over the floorboards. 

“What?” You whispered so faintly that you couldn’t hear it as well. His head tilted to the side, blue eyes narrowed darkly. You swore your body was growing smaller by the second. 

“Continue on, I want to watch” Jim explained slowly as he gestured his hands at you. 

“Jim?” You gulped. Jim rubbed his chin as analyzed every spec of you. 

“Yeah, that’s a smart idea. Moan my name while you do it” Jim grinned as he plopped himself onto the arm rest of the couch, his blue eyes glued onto your little cunt covered by your hand as he rubbed his bulge with his palm, a dramatic relieving moan left his lips. 

Gradually, you fell onto your back again, your eyes planted on him in a mixture of fear and adrenaline. Saying that you had a crush on him was an understatement. He was beautiful, sweet, and thoughtful. But this side of him, the intimidation, dominance and crazed look on his face made your core turn in a way you didn’t know was possible. 

Your shaky fingers ran over your soaked cunt. Slowly, your index finger disappeared inside of you and you moaned out softly. When Jim gave you an approving nod, two more of your fingers quickly followed their way in. Your fingers thrusted in and out of you, you didn’t shift your eyes off of him by even an inch. 

“Jim” you moaned softly, your breath hitching nervously. 

“Fuck, didn’t realise I hired a little whore” Jim chuckled harshly.

It went on for a while, Jim merely watching you perform for him privately. He never knew his name could sound so angelic. So drawing, warmly, exhilarating. When his primal needs busted out of its cage, Jim crawled on top of you. 

Saying that he didn’t have the hots for his children’s babysitter would feel illegal. His desires secretly bent to you. Most of the time he’d have to close his eyes as he fucked his wife. He’d feel most elated and initiate intercourse with his wife always after saying goodbye to you. 

And knowing that you just lived across the road was a fucking delight. Your room was in perfect view from his. Stupidly, you left your curtains open constantly. Deep down he knew you hoped he’d see you, watch you slowly undress yourself for him.

When you’d babysit and he’d come home to you asleep on the couch, he’d watch you for ages. One time he watched you for almost an hour when his wife stumbled through the door and he lied and said that he didn’t want to disturb your sleep. Well, it wasn’t necessarily a lie. 

“Can I touch your pretty pussy?” Jim licked his lips. 

It wasn’t a question, the both of you knew it was inevitable. But you quickly nodded and tried to relax your body as his fingers brushed over your dripping folds. You moaned out at the initial impact, his fingers felt so firm yet soft. The scent of alcohol was strong on his lips too. 

“You wanted me to see, didn't you? I came home exactly when I told you I would” Jim whispered through a trial of kisses up your neck. The clock worked in his favor, the beer motivated your deep desires. “You can’t tell me that you didn’t hear the door open” he continued, snickering at the dirty idea. 

You hummed in response. It was certainly not your primary decision, but through the mixture of desire and intoxication, you can’t help but to think that you really did want to get caught. But ironically, you didn’t hear him come in even though you were thinking of him. 

“You’re so fucking gorgeous sweetheart” Jim confessed, his voice hungry and raspy. 

“You’re so handsome Jim” you confessed back, mouth wide open, ready for a taste of him. 

“Are you mine?” Jim asked softly, his lips brushed over yours. 

“Yes!” you answered, your mouth watering at the thirst for him. 

“Good girl” Jim praised before kissing you passionately. 

You’d never been with an older guy before, someone almost the same age as your own father. But he felt so securing, loving and sensual. He slipped two fingers inside of you easily and curled them. A whimpering moan echoed through the room. Through a motion of curling and straightening his buried fingers, Jim smiled softly as he encouraged you to squeeze them tightly. 

“Can I make love to you sweetheart?” Jim shuddered out, his lashes batted. 

“Yes Jim! Please!” you smiled widely, your eyes fluttering at the effects of stimulation in your core. 

Quickly, Jim freed his throbbing cock and stroked his lengthy size a couple of times. As he pressed his thick head to your entrance, his free hand grabbed ahold of your chin and directed you to look at him. With a gentle kiss, he pushed himself inside of you, you whined out at the initial stretch. As he continued to slide himself inside, he hushed you by sliding his fingers into your mouth to the base of your tongue.

When he completely fitted himself in, he exhaled heavily, his head pressed against yours. Gentle moans and whines left your lips as you blinked hard, your arms wrapped around his sweater. You felt exactly how he dreamt you would, complete paradise. He needed to barricade you from any intruders, Jim needed to mark you as his.  

“I’ve wanted to bury my cock inside of you forever. You’d make such a cute mother” Jim smiled innocently as he slowly thrusted in and out of you, his pace increased with each thrust. 

When the sounds of his balls slapping against your sensitive skin mixed with his heavy moans and grunts, you lay paralyzed through a trance of pleasure and lust. The sense of belonging settled in, you were his. Jim owned you completely now, you were to bend at his will. 

He didn’t know if you were on birth control, nor did he care. It was well overdue with him claiming you. Your walls squeezed his twitching cock still. It was a wonder as to who would finish first. Through his stern expression, he was trying to hold himself out, but he found himself severely drunk in your rapture and warmth. Without warning, his firm thrusts quickly turned sloppy. With one final push, his hips still deep inside of you as he came through a loud groan. You whined out, your own hips created enough friction to push you over the edge into a pool of blissful pleasure. 

Jim collapsed on top of you as he planted sloppy kisses all over your face. Both of you could have fallen asleep at that very moment. But neither of you knew that you were being watched. 

“Jim? What the fuck!” A voice screamed in raging betrayal.  you both shot your eyes up to look at his wife standing there in complete frozen fury.

[graveyard-stray]

Graveyard Stray’s X Reader masterlist

(Writers info here)

Below you will find all my fanfics! Click the link above for my writers/request info

Cillian Murphy

🪦~ Cillian

That’s a Wrap // Fluff + Autistic Reader

🪦~ Thomas Shelby

Since you returned // Angst & fluff

Me or her. // Angst to smut to fluff

Cuddling with Thomas Shelby // Fluff slight angst

Tommy NSFW Alphabet // Smut! But of fluff & angst…

🪦~ Johnathan Crane

Stress relief // fluff

🪦~ Jim (TDS)

Girl Nextdoor // Smut

Star Wars

🪦~ Anakin Skywalker

Please stay. // Angst & Fluff

🪦~ Obi-Wan Kenobi

Bedtime Story // Fluff

Criminal Minds

🪦~ Aaron Hotchner

Morning Workout // fluff? Silly

🪦~ Spencer Reid

Without you // angst & fluff

Bandom

🪦~ Gerard Way

Lazy Sunday Morning // fluff

Your Instagram except your dating Gerard way

Marvel

🪦~ Norman Osborne

Five more minutes? // fluff

🪦~ Bucky Barnes

Nightmares // Angst & Fluffy

The Walking Dead

🪦~Carl Grimes

SFW Alphabet // Fluff, angst if you squint

[weirdcanucks]

Canucks Army: What’s your major?

Thatcher Demko: Applied psychology and human development with a philosophy minor.

CA: Have you found that your coursework has given you any particular insights in your hockey career?

TD: I’m actually taking a sports psychology course this summer to try to tie the sports side of everything into what I’ve learned already in the psych department. It’s been cool just to see how people operate—not necessarily sports-specific, but obviously the basic nature of humans kind of plays into the way that sports take place. So it’s been cool to learn how that works and then I’m going to take that sports psych class to try to tie it all together.

✏️ : Thatcher Demko interview: on turning pro, his ‘bromance’ with Jared McCann and Jim Benning’s ‘class’ by Carol Schram (May 2016) [x]

📹 : Tyler Motte [x]

[impossiblestarfishanchor]

September 19, 2021 Salty Air Publishing Newsletter

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September 19, 2021 - Falmouth, MA In this issue: Harold Larkham Man in the Middle - Jim Nelson Aging Smoke & CO Detectors I Cannot Live Without Books Benjamin Bunny & The Rabbit Hole PHR Books PHR Work In-Progress Your Turn  

Harold Larkham - People die before you have a chance to finish your story. At least with a book you have faith that the author will carry the tale to the end, wrap things up, and let you know what happened. It doesn't always work that way with people. When I taught school in Labrador, I developed a friendship with Harold Larkham. We did some things up there on the ice that we were lucky to live through. We were young and life stretched out before us forever.

About a year ago I was able to reconnect with him through the wonders of the electronic world. I was actually able to FaceTime with him in his kitchen in Labrador. I wanted to tell him that I had dedicated my most recent novel to the people in the town where I had taught. I couldn't believe that he was still living up there in the cold. He reminded me of when we were coming back from the spring festival on ski-mobiles how we stopped to have another drink from the jug that he had strapped to the back of his machine. It was probably close to forty below (Fahrenheit). The aurora borealis was exploding across the sky with unearthly greens and pinks. The ice was cracking and complaining as though it were alive. And the distant howl of the wolves connected us to the fragility of our lives. And he said to me, "Some awe full night, in'it?" And I knew exactly what he meant. Time ran out for Harold in early July—long before we could get the rest of our story told. Stay well, Paul@paulhraymer.com www.SaltyAirPublishing.com

Man in the Middle - Jim Nelson

This is the first pandemic related novel that I have read. I'm sure there will be many more. Most of the story takes place over four days in March of 2020. Since the pandemic is still going on, the final outcome is not yet over, but it is an interesting detail that throughout the book Nelson includes the number of cases and number of deaths worldwide and the number of cases and deaths in the United States as of that particular date. The novel ends on July 25, 2020 with 145,860 people dead in the U.S. when "baseball resumed" in the Oakland Coliseum—although there were no people in the stands and all the support franchises were missing. There are now 664,000 death in the U.S. and virus is still going strong. It is also interesting that both Nelson and his character are unsure of what to do—how to react to the pandemic. Back in March of 2020 it was all new in terms of how to confront the disease, whether it was going to be short term and over in six months or long term and be with us for a long time. Some of the characters don't care—and that's still true. The protagonist is immune compromised, he is also recently separated from his wife, and he has been laid off from his job as a security guard because there is nothing to guard! And then he is shocked to get a new job guarding BitCoin computers. The story is written in the first person which suits the loner existence. The protagonist seems gray and flat, like a paper doll. There's a doctor that has character and a friendly, old security guard that adds a touch of color. But it is a sad scenario and maybe that fits the world right now. Writing about the pandemic while it is going on was a bold challenge. Some subjects need time to develop so you can look back on them and say, "Oh, that's what was going on." Nelson certainly writes well, and he tells an interesting tale.

Aging Smoke & CO Detectors

  It should not be news that things break! Things with operating parts are more prone to breakage than things with no moving parts. I have my grandfather's pocket watch. It's a mechanical device that's still keeping great time after nearly 150 years. I wonder about fancy and expensive digital watches and how long they will last. I doubt if they will be something to pass along to the grandchildren. Smoke detectors age. Not just the batteries. We all know that we should change the batteries in our smoke detectors every six months. Right? And we know that we're supposed to test them every week. But have you thought about how long the sensor—the thing that actually detects the smoke and/or fire lasts? It's somewhere between five and ten years. At that point the whole thing should be replaced. You might want to pull the unit down off the ceiling and check the date. It's obvious on the newer units. If you can't find a date on the unit, just assume that it's out of date and replace it. I mean it's just your life, we're talking about. (This is some good information from the Canadian Government.) Same thing is true for CO detectors. CO alarms have a life expectancy of around seven years. All CO alarms produced after August 1, 2009, have an end-of-life warning notification that alerts the resident that the alarm should be replaced. The CO alarm will beep every 30 seconds or display ERR or END. And don't go pulling the batteries out of the CO detector to shut it up! If it isn't reaching the end of its life and it's beeping, there is a serious CO issue in the house. With all the severe weather we've been having, people are bringing their generators inside. Don't do it. Not even in the garage with the door open. you're risking your life.

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Last issue I asked you about football. The season has started now and the stands are full. It's like the pandemic is over. But it's not. I like  professional football, I look forward to it, and I wish I could just shrug off this disease and join the crowd. So I try to focus on the game instead.

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Beth Greene was Always Gimple’s Sheriff

 Good morning Everyone! Please prepare yourself for some epic parallels! This is a bit lengthy so grab yourself a warm beverage and settle in for a few minutes.

This post is based 100% on potential, unconfirmed spoilers that were posted this week. I normally wouldn't do a post on something that's unconfirmed, but I believe very strongly that the spoilers are correct. Why? Because even though it's not something we ever theorized before, they fit in perfectly with Beth's narrative. They connect EVERYTHING across four seasons and are yet more evidence that Beth's return is only a few episodes away.

Everything is below the READ MORE for those who don't want to be spoiled. So if you don't want potentially massive spoilers for this season—and kind of the rest of the series?—do NOT read this post. You've been warned.

Okay, so if you want to read the spoilers in detail, look at THIS POST that I put up last night. The gist is that they're pretty sure Carl is dying in the MSF. That totally sucks! I'm still heartsick about it. And again, the spoilers aren't confirmed so I HOPE their wrong, but I don't really believe they are. The reason is that we actually have tons of evidence for it, which I'll lay out in this post, but that we just never noticed before.  

Most of my fellow theorists have asked me if I saw this coming, because none of them did. And the answer is no, I didn't. I don't think anyone did. Even if something struck us at suspicious at one time or another, we just didn't think Gimple was ballsy enough to kill off Carl. *Sigh* I guess if we haven't learned by now that he's ballsy enough to kill off absolutely ANYONE, it's our own faults.  

The fact is that now, every evidence we've ever seen for Beth that involves Carl can now be seen in a new light, and makes SO much sense. I'm going to argue that this isn't about Chandler going to school. Gimple has been planning it this way since season 4, and I'll prove it to you.  

So let's start there. Let's go through various things that were probably foreshadows of Carl's death, but we just didn't realize it.

Season 4:

4x16: A

The sheriff's hat. In the famous scene where Rick puts the hat on Beth and calls her the "new sheriff in town," it falls off Carl first. It's so subtle, but it's probably a foreshadow not only of his death (no longer wearing the hat; because why else besides being dead would he ever stop wearing that hat?) but also that Beth was never going to return and take her place as sheriff until Carl's demise.  

Also keep in mind that we saw Negan knock that hat off Carl's head twice last season. Once in 7x01 and again in 7x16.  

4x03: Isolation

There's a scene where Carl and Hershel go outside to collect berries so Hershel can make tea for those who are sick. I've always connected this scene to Beth (X). The reason is that they see a female walker who's leg is in a bear trap (Bear Symbolism). It just feels very Beth-ish. Imprisonment. Parallels to Beth stepping on the small game trap in Alone. Oh, and Hershel doesn't allow Carl to shoot the walker, which is a parallel to TF not shooting or stabbing Beth to make sure she wouldn't turn.

Interestingly, there are some callbacks to S1 in this scene. A walker sits against a tree much like Jim did when they left him in S1. 

And then there's an empty tent which is a callback to looking for Sophia (which is actually season 2). 

The Sophia tent I understand because it's part of the "missing girl" theme, which we've seen around Beth a lot.  

But I never understood the S1/Jim reference. I never knew what the point of having that in the scene was. Now I do. In S8, when Beth appears (walker in the bear trap) there will be some season 1 stuff going on, which we are now seeing very heavily in S8, and will continue to see in 8x02. If you've read spoilers about the "familiar face," you know what I mean.  

So here's how this relates to Carl's death. Carl is very much the sheriff in this part of the story. Everyone is sick, Daryl/Michonne and co have left to go to the veterinary college, and when Rick and Carol leave to canvas for supplies, Rick leaves Carl in charge. That's why Carl insists on going out with Hershel, to protect him.  

So we're seeing a parallel of this now in S8. When Michonne said in 8x01 that this was Carl's show, it means that he's in charge, much as he was in this scene from S4. Even though Michonne is there, Carl is the sheriff. There's not a specific death omen in that scene that I can tell, other than Carl's general fatalism, but let's keep going.

After the prison falls, Rick has a heavy Beth parallel because he falls into a mini coma and sleeps for more than a day. Carl can't wake him up. So once again we see Carl being "the sheriff" by going to look for supplies on his own. He does assert his own independence and even yells at Rick that he would be fine if Rick died.  

But the thing is...it's not true. Later that night, Carl starts to cry and say he can't do it by himself and he was wrong. Now, this is one of my favorite Carl-centered scenes. I've always seen it as beautiful and sad and human, so I'm not knocking it in the least.

But we do have some interesting juxtapositions here. We sort of see Carl's weakness, in that he can't be by himself. And yes, he's a kid and you can't reasonably expect something like that from most kids, but most other characters could have gone on without Rick. Even at Carl's age, Daryl would have been just fine, lol. Meanwhile, we have these Rick/Beth parallels of being in a coma, not able to wake up. Carl even comes close to shooting Rick, but doesn't. Then Rick wakes up from his mini coma and is fine.  

I'm not even saying I see a specific death omen here. Just that it's interesting. Carl's weakness along side a sheriff awakening from a coma.  

Season 5:

5x02: "You are not safe." This speech from Rick to Carl was even in most of the promos. Now, granted, nothing happened to Carl right away, but I think it's significant that it was said in S5, not long before Beth is shot. It's a foreshadow that eventually, something might happen to Carl. Rick says, “It only takes one second. One second and it’s over.” Sounds pretty ominous.

5x08: Deleted scene from Coda. The one where Rick and Daryl talk on the roof.

I'm SO side-eyeing this scene now where Carl is concerned. We TD-ers have always seen it as a sweet moment between Rick and Daryl. One of understanding and solidarity. It's Rick's way of telling Daryl that he understands that Beth and Carol mean as much to him and Carl and Judith do to Rick, and that Rick will back him up with whatever needs to be done to keep these women safe.  

But now look at it in terms of Beth returning just as Carl dies. Everything Rick has done since S1 has been about keeping Carl safe, and of course Judith is part of that too. Rick actually tells Daryl that here. Then, right after, Daryl loses that person (Beth) that meant so much to him.  

So what we're seeing is a theme about Daryl getting Beth back just as Rick loses Carl. I'm not sure I’m illustrating this very well. It's crazy-intricate.

Think of it this way: Rick has almost lost Carl many times (S2 shooting, his humanity in S3/S4, shot in the eye in 6x09) but Carl has always come back from these things. Carl has gotten many returns. (Everything gets a return). Beth, of course, has not. So Rick has had a great deal of time with Carl, and much of it is miraculous because Carl SHOULD have died in most of these situations, but didn't.  

So Rick talked about doing anything to keep his kids safe. Then Daryl lost his person. So when Rick loses HIS person (Carl) in S8, mirroring Daryl's loss in S5, that's when Daryl's person (Beth) will return,

So in 4x16, the sheriff's hat falls off Carl and Rick picks it up and puts it on Beth. New sheriff. New arc. New hope. New loss.

5x08: “I get it now.” This has less to do with Carl, but what is only a short time later, Beth stands in the hallway of Grady toe to toe with Dawn. She says, "I get it now," which is all about her future leadership. I've always said this shot of her between Rick and Daryl shows that she'll rise to be a leader of the group on par with both of them. (Details HERE.) But it's means more than that now. She'll actually take over as leader for Rick and lead beside Daryl. (I'll explain that more in a minute. Bear with me.) So we have evidence of her leadership, right before Daryl loses her in a way that was referenced by Rick, only in his case it was about Carl and Judith. See what I mean? Holy crap!

5x16 Conquer: Can we please appreciate this shot one more time? Carl, Judith, and the music box. Just like Carl, Judith and Beth were all present in the flashback scene of 4x16. I'd never actually connected these two shots in this way before, but holy cow!

Season 6:

Not tons to add here. It IS important that Carl protected Judith when the wolves showed up, and that he and Enid are kinda paralleled with Bethyl off and on. Making more sense as to why now.  

6x09 – No Way Out  

I already talked about Carl being shot in 6x09 and Rick really freaking out when he was sure he'd lose him. (Foreshadow anyone?) But I'm also kind of thinking about Denise now. We've already established how monumental her parallels to Beth were. So I'm just side-eyeing the fact that she worked on Carl and saved him. Yes, I know she's the doctor and who else would have worked on him, but they didn't have to parallel her so heavily with Beth. And once again, while her "saving" him might suggest that Carl lives, it's really an anti-parallel.

It's actually a lot like the Deer Theory. When the deer lives, the character dies. When the deer dies, the character lives. (Wonder if we'll see a deer around Carl's death at all.) This is similar. Carl lived after being shot in 6x09. And Denise is a Beth proxy. Denise died only a couple of episodes later. So when Beth is revealed to truly be alive, Carl will die.

6x16 –  Last Day on Earth

Now check out what Carl says to Rick just before the saviors start whistling and surround them. "We can do anything. And we will. What happened to Denise. I'm not gonna let anybody die like that again."

Whoa? Seriously? If Denise = Beth, then when Beth lives... See what I mean? So I was thinking that maybe Carl would die protecting Judith. But maybe he'll die protecting Beth? No idea really. Either way, I think he'll go out as a hero, protecting someone. It also suggests that whoever he protects will be in danger of dying like Denise. A crossbow bolt to the head? If that almost happens to Beth but doesn't, it will be ultimate validation that we were right all along about Denise parallels.

Season 7:

I already mentioned that Negan knocks the hat off twice, which is pretty huge. 

(Negan/Carl’s Hat Gif)

Also, in the second lineup in 7x16, when Negan is going to kill Carl, Carl looks up at him and says, "You won't win." That was one thing that was always suspicious to me. And no, I never actually thought they would kill Carl. But even so, I always felt like he was being a little too accepting of his own death, rather than fighting it.  

So now is probably a good time to mention this next thing as well. I firmly believe that they use death fake outs and close calls as foreshadows of actual deaths down the line. We certainly saw it with Glenn. He had death fake outs in both S4 and S6, and then eventually we did lose him. Same thing with Carl. His "almost" death foreshadowed his actual one.  

Of course it's nearly impossible to pin down who will go next or when it will happen because 1) Every character has had close calls and could potentially die at any time and 2) they move so slowly that even if a character is dying in a few days, it might STILL be two seasons away, lol.  

Season 8:

So remember in my Details and Foreshadows post about 8x01, I talked about 1) Michonne saying this is your show, which I said is a theme we've seen before and is always equated with death or the missing girl. This just goes to show how Beth's arc is tangled up in Carl's, and again, if he's the sheriff, then she's about to appear, just as the walker with the bear trap did in 4x03, at the same time as the S1 callbacks.  

2) Then there's what that Savior said to Rick about how he would beg, and his son would still die. I didn't think Carl would die when I heard that. Only that there would be death in his arc. Wrong on the first count, right on the second. The death in his arc will be his own.

So the idea is that Rick's Old Man Coda is just like the picnic dream in 7x01. It's his vision of a perfect, peaceful future, but someone in it (Carl) isn't actually alive in reality. I think this story telling technique is fascinating because they introduced it to us in 7x01 so we'd be familiar with what it is. They're using it again, but this time they aren't telling us who died. It will be revealed slowly as we go along.  

The second flash forward, of the Rick with the red eyes beneath the cross, is most likely Carl's funeral.  

The other foreshadow that I didn't even mention in my previous post is when Rick tells Maggie that when the war is over, he'll follow her. That could symbolically point to Beth (that he'll be following a Greene sister) but really I think it's both. Just because Beth leads doesn't mean Maggie won't still lead Hilltop in some capacity. Or it could just be a general foreshadow that Rick simply won't be leading anymore.  

One more outside-the-show evidence? I was talking to my buddy @paolo_pedini (IG) about this. He told me that he wasn't surprised Carl is dying, mostly because Comic Book Carl is so different than TV show Carl. I don't read the CBs, so I wouldn't know this, but he told me that the two are so different, he's never understood how TV Carl will ever get to be CB Carl. And he doesn't mean it as a knock on Chandler's acting. Not at all. But the vibe is just different. In the show, Carl is very Glenn/Hershel/Beth-ish. He's very compassionate and all about helping people. And in the CBs, he's just not that way.

Now granted, at any point, Gimple could feasibly do a story line for Carl that would change his outlook and attitude toward life, but he's been on the show since S1. Shouldn't Gimple have been moving him toward that point all along? It's like they didn't even try. Just more evidence that Gimple never planned for Carl to survive into adulthood.  

Everyone take a deep breath and process. It totally sucks that Carl is dying. I didn't want that at all. (I'm very upset!) But do you see why I think they're right? How it makes sense for every step along the way and shows that Beth was never going to return until Rick lost Carl?

Links Back to S4, S5, and Beth

This is where things get crazy-epic. So another thing we discussed in our FB group when we all started freaking about these spoilers was whether Rick would die. Not that we think they'd kill off both Carl and Rick in the same season, but it's a valid concern. If Carl dies, and he's what Rick has been living for and protecting for 8 seasons, it's not outside the realm of possibility that Rick will simply fizzle out and die physically as well. I'm here to tell you that's NOT how things will play out. Why? Because of Hershel.

We actually have a few evidences we can point to. First is the Old Man Coda. Just the fact that Rick is dreaming or thinking about the future tells me he'll be in it.

Also, I've always said that, despite what Kirkman says about killing off Rick, Gimple would never do that. Lots of story tellers get away with doing that sort of thing, and some with great success, but the fact remains it's not a particularly great story telling technique. You should always end with the character you start with. Gimple is too good a story teller to pull a stunt like that. The show started with Rick. It will end with him too. I'll come back to this, as it's probably the biggest evidence of everything I'm saying here and the reason for the title of this post.  

First, let's talk about why I'm sure Rick will survive Carl's death.  

Ties to Grady:

First, back to Grady. Remember THIS POST I did after season 6, about how weird and annoying it was that they focused so much on Dawn's backstory. We just didn't care and wanted to know other things, but they kept telling us about Captain Hanson who was the leader at Grady before Dawn. They went out of their way to tell us that the two of them weren't rivals. He was her mentor, in fact. She loved him (platonically) and they were very close. Now, we all know that if Beth is really dead, the Grady story line was one ginormous waste. No one living (apparently) took anything from that arc, so it was entirely superfluous. Of course we believe Beth IS alive, so Grady wasn't a waste. It was all about her.

In considering that, I theorized that Dawn's back story MUST be a foreshadow of Beth's arc. There's no other reason for them to include it. So I thought that captain Hanson would = Rick. Rick would crack at some point, and Beth would step in for him as leader. Guys, we're about to see that happen.

I'll admit I thought we were seeing it in S7. Rick definitely cracked under the pressure of Negan and Glenn's death. By the end of 7x01, he was sniveling, snot-covered mess. But he came back from that and was very strong in standing up to Negan in 7x16 and now so far in S8, he's been the badass Rick Grimes that we all know and love.  

So, if Rick came back from Glenn's death, came back from all the traumatic times he thought he'd lose Carl, etc., what would actually crack him to the point of shattering? The only thing would be losing Michonne or one of his children. Rick and Michonne talked about the possibility of losing one another last season and how they have to go on. Yeah, that kind of points to it being Michonne, but based on what the spoilers said and all this stuff above, I think it'll be Carl. I think the real foreshadow in their convo in 7x12 was that, even after epic loss, no matter what that is, they have to be able to go on and lead their people. Rick is not going to be able to do that for at time.

Now, I know that Hanson being killed by Dawn may make it seem like Rick will die. In the Hanson story, Rick = Hanson and Beth = Dawn. But 1) I've always said that Beth won't kill Rick. She's a better person than Dawn was and will have a great deal of MERCY for Rick. In a twisted way, Dawn did mentor Beth, but Beth learned what NOT to do from her. ("I get it now.") And 2) There's season 4a and Hershel.

Ties to Season 4a:

Let's return to 4a. And hold onto your butts because this level of planning on Gimple's part may just blow your mind.  

Remember the "we get to come back" theme? Most people only remember it from Rick's epic speech to the Governor in 4x08, but it actually started way before that.

In 4x01, after Rick's encounter with Crazy Walker Chick/Clara, he went back to the prison and told Hershel all about it. You can tell Rick is depressed that he was unable to save Crazy Walker Chick, unable to keep her from taking her own life. Hershel talks him through it. 

Check out how interesting this convo is:

Hershel: Some people are too far gone. You're not. You tried to help her.

Rick: How that woman wound up. I got close to that. If I lost Carl and Judith. If I lost this place--

Hershel: Not then, Rick. Not even then. You came back. Your boy came back. You get to come back. You do...

Whoa. Massive foreshadowing there. It's all about Carl and Judith. Rick thinks if he lost Carl, he couldn't come back, which is while he'll end up like Crazy Walker Chick for a time. But Hershel tells him that even then, he can come back. *So crazy to see stuff like this from 4x01 that STILL hasn't been fulfilled!*

In this scene, it's obvious that Rick doesn't entirely believe what Hershel says. He doesn't contradict him, but he's skeptical. It's not until he's facing the governor in 4x08 that he really learns and believes that people get to come back. He has to believe it at that point because he's begging the Governor not to bulldoze their home. That's why Hershel gives that heartbreaking smile just before he dies. It's the smile a mentor whose pupil just learned the lesson. 🙁

So how does all this tie together?

Think of it this way. 4a was one huge foreshadow, not only of Carl's death, but of Rick's reaction to it. At the beginning of S4, Rick is NOT the leader at the prison. And why is that? Because of Carl. It's like he tells Daryl when they're digging graves. Daryl is asking Rick if he'll come back and be a leader in the middle of the virus crisis again. 

Rick refuses because he's afraid of losing Carl. "I almost lost my boy..."  

But through the course of 4a, Rick slowly realizes he was wrong to not be the leader. By the time 4x08 happens and the prison falls, he's already decided to be the leader again. And after 4x08, he's back to being the sheriff.  So he gets to come back, even after he loses Carl.

Now let's talk Hershel. There are a few ways in which Hershel is paralleled with Beth in 4a. There's this picture on the wall that suggests Oceanside, the Java Saves cup, which is a Jesus reference. And even he and Michonne represent the prisoner exchange at Grady. But I've never been able to come up with a truly satisfactory reason why they use Hershel for some of these parallels.

Granted, he's a Greene. And her father. She's a lot like him. So maybe it’s not rocket science. But even so. Especially with things like the ship painting, why show that with Hershel? HE won't be alive when Oceanside comes into play. Why not show it with Maggie? Or Daryl? I think I finally understand why.  

Think of it this way: when Rick wasn't leading at the prison, who was? Daryl for one thing. 

They made a big deal about how Daryl was getting all kinds of love for helping people, and the prison's residents really looked up to him. As with all things Daryl, he was handling mostly the physical stuff. Hunting, feeding people, keeping the fences up, and bringing new people in (foreshadow of him scouting with Aaron for Alexandria, btw). But he wasn't the de facto leader. He wasn't the one everyone looked to for moral guidance and decision making. Who was?

Hershel. Even Daryl looked to him to make decisions and then Daryl got it done. 

So now we're going to see this again. It's a repeating arc. (I always say things foreshadow or parallel one another, but it's not like 4a wasn't its own arc. It totally was. If you don't believe me that this show repeats arcs, go check out @angelthefirst1's amazing metas about it. She'll convince you. ;D)

Rick will actually lose Carl this time, and have to step down from leadership because he can't handle it. Daryl definitely will lead. If you STILL haven't read @thegloriouscollectorlady's 4 Arcs for 4 Communities theory (even though I've told you to like a 100x ;D) do so now. She predicated months ago (has it been a year?) that Daryl and Beth would lead together.  

So you can see that Beth will actually step into Hershel's role at the prison. Daryl will lead with her and take care of the physical side of things, but Beth will be the de facto leader everyone looks to for guidance and decision making.  

More than that, I think just as Hershel taught Rick that he could come back, Beth will be instrumental in guiding Rick back and helping him come back from Carl's death.  

What was taught and foreshadowed by Hershel will be fulfilled in Hershel's daughter. The new sheriff in town. That's why Rick won't die.  

What I'm saying is that Gimple planned it this way from the get go. From 4x01 when Gimple took the reins of the show, he structured it as this massive redemption arc for Rick. We're now heading into the darkest part of that arc, when he actually loses Carl.  

But Beth is a huge part of that. She was never going to return until Rick needed her so desperately. This is why she's the coda. Why she's the song bird and the hope that will keep the group going when Rick simply can't. We really couldn't have understood all of this back in season 5. Or 6. Or 7.

I want to add in some thoughts that @thegloriouscollectorlady shared with me because they're just so damn beautiful.

Back to the iconic hat/new sheriff in town scene.  

TD has always argued that one of the reasons this MUST means something is that it seemed entirely unnecessary for Beth to be in the scene. On the surface, having this flashback seemed to be an explanation about how/why Rick became a farmer and about, you know, Carl. So we always argued that there had to be a reason for them to bring her into the scene. I know I've said many times that it might have made more sense for Michonne to be in the scene because she's closer to Rick and Carl. And again, the reason they didn't was because they needed to put the hat on Beth for symbolic purposes.  

But it's so much more than that now. Obviously her being there wasn't unnecessary, even putting that hat aside. She's tied up with this arc of Carl's death and Rick stepping down as leader.

And as @thegloriouscollectorlady observed, this scene becomes epic, even when it comes to just Rick and Hershel. They didn't put any other characters (I.e. Daryl, Michonne) into that scene because they didn't want them there. This scene is about the relationship between two men and their children.  

Remember that this happened before Rick and Daryl became brothers/Rickyl. And of course they were good friends back then and leaned heavily on one another, but their brotherly relationship didn't solidify until after this happened.

I would argue that at this point in time (the flashback) Rick might have actually been closer to Hershel than to Daryl. The relationship was different, as Hershel was his mentor, but he went to Hershel as a confidant in 4x01, not Daryl. (Just gonna throw out there that at that exact same time, Daryl went to Beth about Zack. Are we seeing the emotional intimacies in these relationships?)

So in this scene we have a representation that Hershel's child (Beth) will save Rick's child (Judith) at the moment he loses his son (Carl). The younger generation rises up as the older one falters. The new sheriff comes to town.

Do you see the plan? Gimple has been heading toward this since Daryl, Sasha and Ty hit the Big Spot and Michonne rode in on a horse.  

I also think this is why we’ve seen so many things pointing to S8. Yes, it has everything to do with Beth’s return, but I also think it’s because S8 is where we’ll start to see the fulfillment of the foreshadowing set up in S4.

Let me also say that, although I still think Carl’s S8 arc may lead to Beth, all of this has made me realize that it may just be symbolic too. Carl will “bring” Beth into her sheriff/leadership role. But it may still be literal as well.

Back to Kirkman. Kirkman has always said that he would eventually kill off Rick and Carl would take over. Though I've never been a fan of that idea, for some reason this has given me more respect for it. (No, that's not particularly logical, but it's the truth.)  

Kirkman always planned for Carl to inherit Rick's legacy of leadership. And it's his comic book series, so more power to him.  

But that was never true of Gimple. It's plain to me now that he never planned to follow Kirkman's lead in this regard. For him, it was always about Beth. We know he alone handled her arc in S2, purposely making her weak so we could see her become strong. Her character and her development were always his doing. His baby.  

He always planned that Beth would inherit Rick's leadership legacy. In short, Beth Greene was ALWAYS Gimple's sheriff.  

Mr. Gimple, you are a freaking rock star. I have more respect for you as a story teller than any other I've ever come across. And trust me, I've come across quite a lot.  

Bethyl on, my friends. Bethyl on! And do take some time to mourn the fact that in only two seasons, the Atlanta Five will become the Atlanta Three.

Update and Disclaimer: 

I wrote this post about three days ago, after the spoilers first broke, and I do stand behind most of what I wrote above.

Yesterday, this was found and posted in my FB group. Please note that some comments are either deleted or not visible, which is why it’s a little confusing.

So it suggests these spoilers are untrue.

Let me first say that I HOPE they are, because I don’t want to lose Carl. And you know, if I am, then this post is mostly wrong. ;D 

But I still lean toward them being true. Let me explain why. We’re really looking at one of three possible scenarios here.

1. The spoiler site is full of crap. We’ve seen them be wrong before, especially over Beth stuff. However, I tend to think that’s not the case here. I could be wrong, of course, but for one thing, they said in teh original spoilers that it was unconfirmed, and we should take it with a grain of salt. It’s usually when they’re being super arrogant about things that they’re wrong. So I kind of think this is true, or at least they really believe it is. 

Also, they make a good point in the spoilers that they pieced both Bob and Beth’s deaths and departure from the show this way and were right both times. For things this big, they actually do have a good track record. It’s more the details that they get wrong.

2. Second possibility, the dude saying it’s fake is full of crap. We’ve seen AMC do things before to contain spoilers, and this could be that kind of attempt. This is definitely huge and something they would have wanted to keep under wraps. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if this is a tactic.

3. Both are right. Kind of. It could be that the dude is right about Chandler being on set and on the call sheets, but Carl is still dying. While I can’t back it up as fact (I don’t have a link or reference) I know I’ve read before that both Sarah Wayne Callies and Irone Singleton (Lori and T-Dog) were kept coming back to set periodically and were still on the callsheets after their deaths. That was to hide the fact that they’ve left the show. They’ve done this less in recent seasons as the actors want to move on to other projects quickly, but Chandler is young and going to school and it wouldnt’ be hard to have him stick around for appearances.

That said, my FB peeps who follow the Tumblrs of locals who troll the spoiler site have told me the locals have reported that they really haven’t seen Chandler in months. Something to consider. If he was there, chances are quite good they’d have seen him. But not absolute, of course.

So overall, this means that either could be right. Or both. Carl could be alive. Or dead. I’m kind of 50/50 on it right now.

I decided to go ahead and post this because, overall, I stand behind the symbolism. Obviously if Carl doesn’t die, the stuff about Carl’s death isn’t true. And not to sound insensitive, but it might be just a detail. Maybe Carl’s not dying, but SOMEone is (Michonne? Judith?) Rick’s red-rimmed eyes (damn those things are red!) and the cross he sits under do suggest a funeral and devastation on his part. Maybe Carl isn’t dying but something will happen that’s so debilitating, and Rick blames himself for it forwhatever reason, that he still loses his confidence and steps down as leader. 

I don’t know. But overall, no matter what the details are, I still think this template is a thing and that it will pave the way for Beth’s arc, which TD has been waiting for since season 4. 

If you got all the way through this, YOU, are a freaking rock star! 

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Grading Super Bowl XXVIII

What was the final score?

Dallas 30, Buffalo 13

How much of the game was close? What was the “edge of your seat factor” like? (20 points)

Most of the game was close. Buffalo had a seven-point lead at the end of the second quarter and Dallas had a seven-point lead at the end of the third quarter. As late as four minutes into the fourth quarter, it was a one-possession game. Emmitt Smith’s fourth-and-goal touchdown run gave the Cowboys a 27-13 lead, but it wasn’t immediately clear that the game was over. On their ensuing possession, the Bills got a first down and appeared to be getting into a rhythm before Jim Kelly took a 13 yard sack on third down. Chris Mohr punted, the Cowboys drove down the field and kicked a game-clinching field goal, and that was that.

In terms of the Bills’ Super Bowls, this one was second only to Super Bowl XXV in drama. Buffalo was very much in the game into the fourth quarter. (Score: 13 out of 20)

Was there any kind of comeback? Was there ever any indication that the team which was trailing had a chance to come from behind and win? (15 points)

There wasn’t a comeback, but there very well could have been. Buffalo had the ball, down seven points as the fourth quarter began. Things unraveled from there for Marv Levy’s Bills, but they were in a position where a comeback was entirely plausible. (Score: 7 out of 15)

Did the great players come through with great performances? (15 points)

Emmitt Smith was magnificent, by far the best player on the field. The NFL’s eventual all-time leading rusher racked up 132 yards rushing and two touchdowns to go along with his 26 yards receiving. Andre Reed and Michael Irvin were both good, as they always were in Super Bowls.

Watching the game, though, it seemed like the great players were less impressive in Super Bowl XXVIII than you’d have expected. Troy Aikman (207 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT) and Jim Kelly (260 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT) were both perfectly cromluent but unremarkable in the passing game. Bills all-universe defensive lineman Bruce Smith was injured and a non-factor. Buffalo running back Thurman Thomas, who led the NFL in yards from scrimmage in four consecutive seasons, carried the ball 16 times, fumbled twice, and gained 2.3 yards per carry.

Apart from Smith, most of the best players in Super Bowl XXVIII were guys like James Washington, Alvin Harper, and Phil Hansen: Good but not great football players who had big days. (Score: 9 out of 15)

Were the teams historically great? (10 points)

I gave these two teams 10 out of 10 points last year. There’s no reason to change this now. The Team of the 90s against the only team in history to play in four consecutive Super Bowls. That’s greatness. (Score: 10 out of 10)

Were there memorable moments that will be talked about for decades? (10 points)

Nothing of the magnitude of the Don Beebe hustle play to deny Leon Lett a fumble return touchdown. The first play that comes to mind is the Thurman Thomas fumble (and James Washington return touchdown) on the first drive of the second half. If there exists a moment in any of the four Buffalo Super Bowl losses where you can see a game completely change in a heartbeat, it’s that play. The Bills led the game in the second half, were moving the ball coming out of halftime, and then...bam, in an instant it’s tied at 13.

The other defining moment came in the fourth quarter. With Dallas up seven points, the Bills very nearly put up a goal line stand for the ages, forcing Jimmy Johnson to make a decision on fourth and goal: Take the three points and make it a two-score game, or go for seven. Johnson kept his offense on the field and Emmitt Smith got it done, finding the end zone without much trouble. At that point, it was a 27-13 lead and the Bills were in all kinds of trouble. (Score: 6 out of 10)

How was the quality of play? Were there a lot of penalties, punts, and turnovers? (15 points)

The quality of play was good. Certainly it was better than Super Bowls XXVI and XXVII, though that’s a low bar to clear. Buffalo showed up to play, had a second half lead, committed a total of one penalty, and looked like a team that deserved to be playing for the Lombardi Trophy.

Dallas was even better, of course. The Cowboys had zero fumbles, one interception, protected their quarterback, created holes for the running back, and did everything they needed to do. There was nothing spectacular about this game - apart from maybe Emmitt Smith’s performance - but it was a well-played Super Bowl. (Score: 10 out of 15)

Are there any other factors that add to the greatness the game? This covers things like weather, story line, rivalry matchup, legacy franchises, unexpected results, etc. (15 points)

There were a bunch of fascinating storylines. This was the first Super Bowl to feature the same two teams as the previous year. Dallas coach Jimmy Johnson and owner Jerry Jones had reportedly been at each other’s throats all season and it was beginning to look like an untenable situation. It was indeed an untenable situation, and this would be Johnson’s last game as the head coach of the Cowboys. Eventual Super Bowl MVP Emmitt Smith missed the first two games of the season holding out for a new contract. Dallas lost both games, Jerry Jones opened his checkbook, and the Cowboys won 14 of their next 16 games en route to the Super Bowl.

And then, of course, there were the Bills. By this point, there existed two groups of people who followed the NFL: Bills fans and people who were sick of watching Buffalo lose the Super Bowl every year. (To be fair, Bills fans were sick of that too.) Buffalo was in its fourth consecutive Super Bowl, a feat never before or since matched. They would have given anything to not become the only team to lose four Super Bowls in a row. Unfortunately for fans of Kelly, Thomas, Levy, Reed, Smith, and Bennett, that wasn’t enough to earn a ring. (Score: 12 out of 15)

How does the game grade overall? (sum of all previous categories, 100 points)

Better than you’d think. 67 out of 100, tied for the seventh-best Super Bowl of all time at this point. That might seem like too high a score, but the game was undecided into the fourth quarter, both teams were consistently among the very best of their generation, and there were all kinds of fascinating subplots going on.

Ratings and rankings of Super Bowls I-XXVIII:

1. Super Bowl XIII - Pittsburgh 35, Dallas 31 - 87 points 2. Super Bowl XXIII - San Francisco 20, Cincinnati 16 - 85 points 3. Super Bowl XXV - New York Giants 20, Buffalo 19 - 84 points 4. Super Bowl X - Pittsburgh 21, Dallas 17 - 80 points 5. Super Bowl VII - Miami 14, Washington 7 - 74 points 6. Super Bowl IX - Pittsburgh 16, Minnesota 6 - 68 points T7. Super Bowl XVII - Washington 27, Miami 17 - 67 points T7. Super Bowl XXVIII - Dallas 30, Buffalo 13 - 67 points 9. Super Bowl XIV - Pittsburgh 31, Los Angeles 19 - 65 points 10. Super Bowl XVI - San Francisco 26, Cincinnati 21 - 62 points 11. Super Bowl XIX - San Francisco 38, Miami 16 - 61 points T12. Super Bowl III - New York Jets 16, Baltimore 7 - 58 points T12. Super Bowl XXII - Washington 42, Denver 10 - 58 points 14. Super Bowl XXI - New York Giants 39, Denver 20 - 57 points 15. Super Bowl XXVII - Dallas 52, Buffalo 17 - 55 points 16. Super Bowl VI - Dallas 24, Miami 3 - 52 points 17. Super Bowl XX - Chicago 46, New England 10 - 51 points 18. Super Bowl I - Green Bay 35, Kansas City 10 - 50 points T19. Super Bowl XVIII - Los Angeles Raiders 38, Washington 9 - 49 points T19. Super Bowl XXIV - San Francisco 55, Denver 10 - 49 points 21. Super Bowl XXVI - Washington 37, Buffalo 24 - 48 points 22. Super Bowl VIII - Miami 24, Minnesota 7 - 47 points 23. Super Bowl XV - Oakland 27, Philadelphia 10 - 44 points 24. Super Bowl IV - Kansas City 23, Minnesota 7 - 43 points T25. Super Bowl II - Green Bay 33, Oakland 14 - 40 points T25. Super Bowl V - Baltimore 16, Dallas 13 - 40 points 27. Super Bowl XII - Dallas 27, Denver 10 - 38 points 28. Super Bowl XI - Oakland 32, Minnesota 14 - 35 points

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The Complete Guide to Ridiculous Super Bowl 53 Prop Bets

The Crossing Broad staff has done a deep dive on several of the more ridiculous Super Bowl 53 prop bets. Keep in mind, these props come from a wide range of sportsbooks and all may not be available at legal New Jersey sportbooks. You can also check out our full guide on where to bet on the Super Bowl in New Jersey.

Will the Nielsen Rating of Super Bowl 53 reach 44.5? Over (-110)/Under (-110)

This number has only gone below 44.5 twice in the last 10 years. Super Bowl LII actually pulled a 43.1 last February. Super Bowl XLII pulled a 42 number. Both of those games were on NBC, however NBC also had a pair of Super Bowls that pulled 47 and 47.5, and I don’t see anything in the research that shows much differentiation by broadcast. The X-factor here is the LA market, which typically does not do strong Super Bowl numbers. It’s hard to measure how interested Los Angeles is in the Rams and whether or not that translates to strong or weak numbers next week. My lean is over, but the Los Angeles market is unpredictable. How interested will it be in the Rams?

-Kevin Kinkead

Will Jim Nantz or Tony Romo say “Philly Special”? Yes (+250)/No  (-260)

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Interesting question. It’s obvious the play that was ranked the top sports moment in 2018 by Sports Illustrated will be a part of the Super Bowl broadcast. The ballsiest play to ever be called in a Super Bowl was run to perfection against the Patriots (moments after Tom Brady dropped a pass of his own) and was ripped from the Patriots playbook, so it will certainly be brought up during the game, but will either Jim Nantz or Tony Romo actually say the words “Philly Special”?

It’s tough because the play is essentially known by two names. “Philly Special” is the official name of the play, but “Philly Philly” will forever be immortalized when Nick Foles asked Doug Pederson if he wanted “Philly Philly” near the end of the second quarter. Do you trust Romo or Nantz to call the play by its official name, or will they simply just say “Philly Philly”?

I can’t find either of these announcers discussing the play in interviews during the season, so I have no basis on how they would make reference to it.

The value isn’t bad for a “yes” answer at +250, and if anything Romo has proven that he knows the ins and outs of everything going into a game, so he should know that the actual play was called the “Philly Special.” I would put a few bucks down on “Yes” for this prop bet. -The Coggin Toboggan

Will the winner of Super Bowl 53 visit the White House? Yes  (-200/No +150)

If the Patriots win the Super Bowl, odds are that, yes, they will visit the White House and President Trump. The last two times the Patriots won, in 2015 and 2017, they visited the White House both times. Barack Obama was president in 2015 during the team’s visit and Trump was president in 2017. So they’ve attended while both a Democrat and Republican President was in power.

Tom Brady and Bill Belichick are both fans of President Trump, even though Brady didn’t attend the 2017 ceremony and may have lost favor with the President. But Patriots owner Bob Kraft has a deep friendship and personal relationship with Trump, so it’s likely a delegation from the Patriots will attend.

On the Rams side, Sean McVay was able to steer the team clear of the National Anthem protests last season, a major thorn in Trump’s side over the last two seasons. Defensive end Robert Quinn, who raised his right fist during National Anthems at the start of the 2017 season, is no longer on the team. Additionally, owner Stan Kroenke donated $1 million to Trump’s inaugural committee in 2017 and has had no public comments since about any falling out with the President or his ideals, so the Rams would likely send a few players to the White House as well.

Trump’s inability to congratulate the Rams on their Super Bowl appearance (he only congratulated the Patriots, Brady, Belichick and Kraft for making the Super Bowl in a tweet) may sour some players, but I’d say a bet on the “Yes” side of this prop is a good one. -The Coggin Toboggan

What will be longer? The Total Days of the Government Shutdown (+110) or Yardage of the Longest TD (-140)

UPDATE: This was written before the Shutdown was over. Take the yardage.

Let’s say the shutdown extends all the way to Super Bowl Sunday. That’d be 43 days (we’re at 34 as of 1/25). That might be tough to beat.

Last year, the longest touchdown was the Alshon Jeffery 34-yard catch in the first quarter. In Super Bowl LII, Robert Alford got an 82-yard pick six. Overall, in the nine Super Bowls played this decade, there’s been a total of six touchdowns longer than 43 yards (two in Super Bowl XLVIII, two in Super Bowl XLVII, one in Super Bowl XLIV). Outside of the Alford pick six, there hasn’t been a TD scored that’s been at least 35 yards.

This season, the Patriots have scored six TDs longer than 43 yards. Their longest in the postseason was a Phillip Dorsett 29-yard pass against the Chiefs in the AFC title game. As for the Rams, they’ve had four TDs longer than 43 yards, but all of them have come in the first four weeks of the season (Cooper Kupp had two of them). Since then, their longest TD was a 40-yard catch from Gerald Everett in that crazy Monday Night Football game against the Chiefs. Their longest TD in the postseason was a 35-yard Todd Gurley rushing score.

If the shutdown ends sooner rather than later, it’s a good chance that the longest TD is greater than the total days of the shutdown. But if I’m betting right now, I’m going with the total days of the shutdown.

-Chris Jastrzembski

Will the Dome of Mercedes-Benz Stadium be Open at Kickoff Yes (-280)/No (+210)

It’s a beautiful stadium and dome. But in its biggest games, the dome has been closed.

In both SEC Championship games in 2017 and 2018, as well as the 2018 College Football Playoff National Championship and the 2018 MLS Cup, the roof was closed.

The current weather forecast calls for rain for most of the day and evening. Without a doubt, the roof is going to be closed, even if the conditions outside are fine.

-Chris Jastrzembski

Which Song Will Maroon 5 Open With?

Plenty of people groaned at Maroon 5 being named the headliner of this year’s Super Bowl halftime show, but look at the list of performers in the title game’s history. Be grateful you are living in a time where Up With People doesn’t get the nod three times in seven years. The other upside to Maroon 5 playing the halftime show is that you know so many of their songs. Unfortunately, this makes figuring out which of those songs they will start the show with that much more difficult.

Here are the odds on which song they will open their show with as of 1/24:

“One More Night” and “Makes Me Wonder” — +300 “Animals” — +500 “Don’t Wanna Know” and “Girls Like You” — +600 “Moves Like Jagger” and “Sugar” — +700 “Payphone” and “Maps” — +1200 “Mic Jack” — +1500 Any Other Song — +400

You might be able to win a bar bet with this nugget: Maroon 5 have only placed four singles at #1 on the Billboard Hot 100. All four of them are listed above in bold. “This Love” and “She Will Be Loved” were not #1s. You learn something new every day.

On Maroon 5’s recent tour, they opened every show with “What Lovers Do,” which only ever reached #9 on the Hot 100. That makes any other song at +400 pretty enticing — you get “What Lovers Do,” “Love Somebody,” “Harder to Breathe” and a lot of other hits as an entry.

It might also help to see what recent performers opened with. Last year, Justin Timberlake opened with “Filthy.” Two years ago, Lady Gaga opened with “God Bless America.” Three years ago, Chris Martin opened the show by singing the chorus to “Yellow” before the full band played “Vida la Vida.” I would have lost my ass on “Clocks.” What the past three years tells you is that there is no formula (and apparently no mandate as to what the artist leads with), so the artist’s preference is what carries the day.

A unit each on “One More Night,” “Makes Me Wonder” and “Any Other Song” should at least get you your money back, but if pushed, I’m riding with “Any Other Song.” Adam Levine clearly feels comfortable opening with “What Lovers Do,” you’re getting a number of other strong contenders — “This Love” especially is a song that will reach the entire viewing audience — and you’ve accounted for the possibility that Maroon 5 pulls a Gaga, gets political and opens with something like a verse from “A Hard Rain’s Gonna Fall.” Phil Keidel

Gladys Knight National Anthem over-under 1:50?

I’ve done an obscene amount of research on this and was only able to find one video of Gladys Knight with or without the Pips singing the Star-Spangled Banner. Boom:

That’s a crisp 1 minute and 38 seconds, and she’s a full 27 years older. No way she can hold the last note that long.

This line is low, though. Five singers since Super Bowl 40 have gone over 2:00 minutes when singing the National Anthem– Alicia Keys, Lady Gaga, Idina Menzel, Jennifer Hudson and, weirdly, Luke Bryan.

Alicia Keys, who couldn’t read a phone number without an interlude, was the longest at 2:35.

This means oddsmakers already implicitly like a shorter version this year. The line has come down in some places to 1:45, so clearly the smart money is under Gladys Knight… if you can grab this before it dips to 1:40, I’d hammer Gladys and the under.

-Kyle

What will be higher Trump’s approval rating or the longest field goal in the game?

Donald Trump’s approval rating is around 34-36 depending on where you look, and that’s under the average NFL made field goal length of 36, so the odds, at first blush, appear to be pretty even. But given the fact the game is LIKELY being played in a dome and that every playoff game this year except for the Colts-Texans and Chargers-Patriots games have featured a field goal of at least 36 yards, the field goal seems to be the play here. It is the favorite at -140, but it’s worth noting that the end of the government shutdown may push Trump slightly higher. Still, take the field goal.

-Kyle

How Many Maroon 5 Songs Will be Played During the Halftime Show?

Over 3.5 — -160 Under 3.5 — +120

Yeah, yeah, I know, Travis Scott and Big Boi are going to be up there, too, and they need to be heard doing something. But there are plenty of Maroon 5 hits that feature similar players. Wiz Khalifa contributed to “Payphone.” Kendrick Lamar was in on “Don’t Wanna Know.” Future guested on “Cold.” So even if Scott and Boi (that was fun to write) get a minute or two of airtime, it’s probably going to be partly chiming in on a Maroon 5 song. None of the songs that were given their own odds exceeds four minutes in length, and because so many of them sound the same, they are all easy to string into each other in two-minute bursts. So we should definitely get segments of five or even six different songs being played in the halftime show running time, which in the last three years has been 13:45, 13:33 and 13:11. This is an over, all day.

Now if you’ll excuse me, I need to go listen to some jets take off to get Adam Levine’s voice out of my head.

-Phil Keidel

Jersey Number of First/Last Touchdown Scorer Over (-134)/Under (+100)

When I saw the betting line on the props bets for jersey number of the first and last touchdown in the Super Bowl, I did a double take. Showing my age, my first thought was this has to be a mistake. The majority of touchdowns scored are scored by guys with uniform numbers 27 or higher. I mean, there are 73 numbers between 27 and 99 compared to just 26 between 1 and 26. Why wouldn’t the odds be more diverse? So, I had to dive into it. I had to look closer to find out if my initial instinct was correct, or if there was something more indicative into the logic of setting the line where it is. As such, I went back and reviewed the box score for each of the 52 previous Super Bowls and looked at who scored the first touchdown and who scored the last touchdown.

Here’s what I came up with:

First Touchdown of the Super Bowl

Uniform number 27 or higher – 39 times

Uniform number 26 or lower – 13 times

Last Touchdown of the Super Bowl

Uniform number 27 or higher – 39 times

Uniform number 26 or lower 13 times

At first glance, my hypothesis seemed correct. That’s 75% of the time that the first or last touchdown in the Super Bowl would be scored by someone with a uniform number of 27 or higher.

As such, just based on this data, betting the over would seem to be really good odds. I mean, yeah, it’s minus 134, but it’s not like it’s minus-260.

It seems like a real value bet, but then I looked a little closer. See, I told you my original theory was rooted in age. That’s because nowadays, more wide receivers are wearing lower numbers than they used to. I’m not exactly sure when the trend started toward lower numbers for receivers, but since 2001, both the fist touchdown and the last touchdown of the Super Bowl were scored by guys with uniform numbers of 27 or higher just three times.

From Super Bowl XXXI through Super Bowl XXXV it happened every year. In fact, it happened in 25 of the first 35 Super Bowls, and through the first 40 Super Bowls, it never happened that both the first and last touchdown of the big game were scored by a player with a uniform number of 26 or below. Not once. Since then it’s happened three times (Super Bowls XLI, XLVIII, XLIX).

And then there’s this stat:

First Touchdown of the Super Bowl:

LII – Alshon Jeffrey (No. 17)

LI – Devonta Freeman (No. 24)

L – Malik Jackson (No. 97)

XLIX – Brandon LaFell (No. 19)

XLVIII – Marshawn Lynch (No. 24)

That makes four of the last five Super Bowls where the first touchdown was scored by someone with a number below the 26.5 line set by DraftKings and the only one that wasn’t was a defensive touchdown on a fumble recovery in the end zone by Denver’s Malik Jackson.

But wait a minute…what else can we glean from the available information that could help here? Well, of the 104 touchdowns that were examined over 52 Super Bowls, only 10 were scored on defense or special teams. That means there’s a 90.4% chance that an offensive player will score the first or last touchdown.

So, let’s look at the guys who have the best chance of scoring for New England and Los Angeles.

For the Patriots, there are 10 guys to consider. Five of them have uniform numbers of 26 or lower (Tom Brady, Sony Michel, Julian Edelman, Philip Dorsett and Chris Hogan), and five of them are 27 or higher (James White, Patrick Develin, Rex Burkhead, Cordarelle Patterson and Rob Gronkowski).

For the Rams, there are eight guys to consider since they don’t spread the ball around as much as the Pats do. They have just three guys at No. 26 or lower (Jared Goff, Robert Woods and Brandin Cooks) and five guys at No. 27 or higher (Todd Gurley, C.J. Anderson, Gerald Everett, Josh Reynolds and Tyler Higbee).

That would give a slight edge to the over (10 vs. 8) but you pretty much have to take the quarterbacks out of the mix. Neither Brady nor Goff are particularly known for rushing the ball. Brady ran for just 35 yards this season while Goff ran for 108. They each scored two rushing touchdowns though, but that would mean they would have to be down at the goal line and likely trying to plunge it in.

So if you take them out of the mix, that leaves you with 10 guys with uniforms that are over the number and just six guys with uniforms under the number.

With that information, the odds definitely swing more in the favor of over.

But, there’s one other thing to note: only 13 of the 52 touchdowns that were the last touchdown of the game were scored by running backs, meaning late in the game – and that’s historically. In today’s pass-happy NFL, it’s a good bet that the RB’s odds of scoring late are diminished even further, while 19 of the 52 first touchdowns were scored by backs – meaning they’re more a bit more active early. So, to me, this comes down to receivers, which gets us back to even – five on each side of the over/under line.

That’s frustrating. The over bet is no longer a value play and the under bet is the correct odds. So, there’s nothing here that really makes me want to take a side. Mathematically, you should go with the under if you absolutely must bet it. But the odds aren’t in your favor here either way.

In closing, this prop is simply a sucker bet. Avoid.

-Anthony SanFilippo

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I'mma do like three fandoms for this (since they're my mains lol)

Ducktales:

What OTPs in your fandom(s) do you just not get?*

Oh definitely dimeshipping (Scrooge x magica) it's just,,, ?? Aaaaa weird and crackbeaks (mark x Fenton)

Popular character you hate?

Im not rlly sure if he's popular popular but Jim starling, he makes me >:(

Bnha:

What OTPs in your fandom(s) do you just not get?*

oh theres a L O T Sweetie, like ?? Bk/dk, kr/mn, Td/bk, it's justs euuuggh

Popular character you hate?

He's not rlly popular to a lot of ya know, not crazy people, but popular to that part of the fandom,, it's Endeavor lol

Ninjago:

What OTPs in your fandom(s) do you just not get?*

Kailor (sky x skylor), Greenflame (Kai x Lloyd) and literally any Lloyd x ninja ship.

Popular character you hate?

..... skylor (Not full on hate she just eee)

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It’s a shame if the Hall of Fame doesn't add these great names

On Aug. 4, the Pro Football Hall of Fame will enshrine eight new members to its hallowed Hall: Bobby Beathard (former Redskins GM), Robert Brazile (a linebacker with the Houston Oilers in the 1970s and 80s), Brian Dawkins (a hard-hitting safety with the Eagles and Broncos), Jerry Kramer (an offensive lineman with the historic Packer teams of the 60s), Ray Lewis (a killer LBer with the Ravens), Randy Moss (second greatest WR of all-time), Terrell Owens (third greatest WR of all-time) and Brian Urlacher (terrific linebacker with the Bears).

It’s cliché to do so, especially this time of year, but since it’s my blog I’m going to do it anyway and ask the question “who isn’t in the Hall of Fame that should be?” Most of the time, Hall of Fame voters get it right. Take for instance 2017 when Kurt Warner and Terrell Davis were both enshrined after having to wait several years. Both were extraordinary players with short careers but the Hall of Fame came to its senses and inducted them properly. Now it’s time for the voters to come to their senses again for these seven players who should be considered for the Class of 2019 and beyond...

Doug Flutie. It’s called the “Pro” Football Hall of Fame, not the “NFL” Hall of Fame. Flutie’s NFL numbers as a QB are pedestrian: 14,715 yards passing, 86 touchdown passes and another 1,634 yards rushing and 10 TDs. But Flutie is the rarest of football players having excelled as a quarterback for three different professional football leagues - the NFL, the CFL and USFL. When factoring in all three of these leagues and 21 years (21 years!) of football, Flutie threw 369 touchdown passes and for 58,179 yards -- more yards and touchdown passes than John Elway, Warren Moon and Dan Fouts, all Hall of Famers whose careers intersected at some point with Flutie. Additionally, Flutie rushed for 6,759 yards (total), which is almost 2,000 more than Randall Cunningham, who is the NFL’s all-time leader in rushing yards as a quarterback. Flutie had six seasons in the Canadian Football League where he threw for more than 5,000 yards, including two seasons where he threw for more than 6,000 yards! Yes, it’s the CFL but it’s still football. When Flutie, who began his pro career with the Bears in 1986 and played three seasons (as a non-starter) for the Patriots from 1987-89, re-entered the NFL with the Buffalo Bills in 1998 he was supposed to be well past his prime at 36 years-old, but he made the Pro Bowl that season, was the NFL’s Comeback Player of the Year and helped the Bills to the playoffs. His worst passer rating as a starting QB was 72.0 with the Chargers in 2001, when he was 39. Joe Namath’s best passer rating was 74 in 1969 when he was 26. Namath was enshrined in Canton in 1985. Call me crazy but Doug Flutie is a Hall of Famer.

Jim Plunkett. This one is a bit of a stretch but I still want to make my argument on behalf of Plunkett. Like Flutie, Plunkett won the Heisman Trophy as college football’s best player. He was drafted first overall in 1971 and played for some horrific New England teams of the 1970s. He bounced around, even sat out a season (1979) until called into duty for the Oakland Raiders in 1980 when starter Dan Pastorini (ironically drafted two spots after Plunkett in 1971) was injured. While Plunkett did just enough to win the games that didn’t matter he excelled in the ones that did. He led the Raiders to Super Bowl XV and was named the game’s MVP. During a five-year stretch, he was 34-11 as a starter during the regular season and 8-2 in the playoffs while winning another Super Bowl, Super Bowl XVIII, for the Raiders at the age of 36. His 8-2 mark in the postseason is better than Peyton Manning. Naysayers point to his 164 TD passes to 198 interceptions. But compared to Namath, Plunkett has just nine fewer touchdown passes but 22 fewer career interceptions. Yes, that’s right, Broadway Joe’s TD to INT ratio is 173-220. Plunkett was never a Pro Bowler but he spent his career in the same era as Ken Anderson, Terry Bradshaw, John Elway, Dan Fouts, Bob Griese, Dan Marino, Ken Stabler, Roger Staubach and Fran Tarkenton. All but Anderson are in the Hall of Fame. Only Bradshaw won more Super Bowls. Plunkett, in fact, is the only starting quarterback to win multiple Super Bowls NOT in the Hall of Fame. Stats don’t lie but winning speaks volumes.

Dave Dalby. A teammate of Plunkett’s with the Raiders, Dalby, too, was highly regarded but lightly rewarded during a playing career in which the former UCLA All American never missed a professional football game (205 total). For three seasons, he played behind legendary center Jim Otto but following Otto’s retirement in 1974, Dalby started the next 152 games consecutively while winning Super Bowls XI, XV and XVIII along the way. He was named to his only Pro Bowl in 1977 but, like Plunkett, Dalby was overshadowed during his era by other players like Hall of Famers Jim Langer and Mike Webster, arguably the greatest centers in NFL history. Dalby spent his entire career (1972-85) as a Raider and endured just one losing season (1981) during that timeframe. He anchored an offensive line that featured tackle Art Shell and guard Gene Upshaw, both Hall of Famers, and as I mentioned before, Dalby played in all 205 games during his 14-year career -- probably the greatest stat of all.

Donnie Shell. If it’s winning that should be the ultimate ticket to Canton, then why in the hell isn’t Donnie Shell in the Hall of Fame? A starting safety on the Steelers vaunted Steel Curtain defense of the 1970s, Shell did more than just play for a winner, he made five Pro Bowls as a strong safety and intercepted 51 passes while recovering 19 fumbles during a career that spanned 14 seasons. Like Dalby, once Shell became a full-time starter he wasn’t leaving the playing field and he started 159 straight games from 1977 through 1987, not including 11 playoff games. Oh, and he won four Super Bowls (IX, X, XIII and XIV) during his career. Shell intercepted 14 more passes than Dawkins and was a three-time First Team All-Pro, same as Kenny Easley who’s in the Hall of Fame. Detractors will point out there’s an abundance of Steelers already in the Hall of Fame, including four players (Mel Blount, Joe Greene, Jack Ham and Jack Lambert) from the 1970s defense but Shell deserves a place in Canton. It’s long overdue.

Lemar Parrish. While I’m on the subject of defensive backs, allow me to campaign on behalf of Parrish, a cornerback who was the first “shutdown” corner if there ever so was one. Parrish starred for the Cincinnati Bengals when there were no Cincinnati Bengal stars (1970-77). He intercepted 47 passes during a 13-year career (1970-82) but perhaps the most impressive feat during his playing days is the fact that Parrish was named to the 1974 Pro Bowl after not intercepting any passes at all. In 1979, he led the NFC with nine interceptions for the Washington Redskins and was named First Team All-Pro. During his career with the Bengals, Redskins and Bills, Parrish was an eight-time Pro Bowler and scored 12 touchdowns, including four by interceptions, three off of fumble recoveries, four as a punt returner and one for good measure as a kickoff returner. He was Deion Sanders before Sanders was Primetime. Eligible for the Hall of Fame since 1988, Parrish is still waiting for his bust to be sculpted. There are only 13 cornerbacks in the Hall of Fame, including Emmitt Thomas who played as many seasons as Parrish but made three fewer Pro Bowls, and Mike Haynes, maybe the best corner not named “Deion Sanders” but has one fewer interception than Parrish. 

Mike Kenn. An offensive tackle for the Atlanta Falcons, Kenn’s career spanned three decades beginning with his rookie season in 1978 all the way through his final season of 1994. You know the old saying, “a pro’s pro?” Well, Kenn is a pro’s pro. Do you know how many games Mike Kenn played? 251. Do you know how many games Mike Kenn missed? 0. Kenn ranks ninth all-time in games played and started (251) for his career. While he was a two-time First Team All-Pro, Kenn was a five-time Second Team All Pro and was voted to five Pro Bowls in his career -- 1980 through 1984. Kenn was so good, according to Pro Football Reference, he’s one of the 200 best players -- of all time, not just o-linemen. Atlanta quarterback Steve Bartkowski led the league in passing in 1980 and 1981. Bartkowski. Atlanta. THE Atlanta Falcons. During that two-year stretch, Bartkowski threw 61 TD passes (31 in 1980 and 30 in 1981) and the reason he was able to throw 61 touchdown passes is because of Michael Lee Kenn. The main argument against Kenn and his Hall of Fame candidacy is lack of playoff games. He only played in six but his approximate career value is the same as Howie Long, a Hall of Fame defensive end with the Raiders, and better than Hall of Fame offensive linemen Shell, Jonathan Ogden, Mike Munchak and Tom Mack. 

Roger Craig. When it comes to approximating career value (according to Pro Football Reference), Craig ranks the same as Kenn and Long and better than other running backs in the Hall of Fame, most notably John Riggins and Eric Dickerson. If I’m allowed to be biased, and Blogging & Tackling is my blog so I’m allowed, then Craig is my champion for “What the Hell Hall of Fame? Why Is This Guy Not In?” Craig was a standout running back on the 49er dynasty teams of the 1980s. He starred at Nebraska in college (full disclosure: also my alma mater) and was drafted to the Niners as a FULLBACK. Yes, Craig was a fullback in his first four seasons in the NFL. All he did as a fullback was lead the league in receptions (92 in 1985), rush for 1,050 yards (also in 1985) and have 1,016 yards receiving (also in 1985). He was the first player in NFL history to record a season with 1,000 yards rushing and 1,000 yards receiving in the same season (1985, duh). Marshall Faulk (Hall of Fame, 2011) is the only other player to accomplish this feat (1999). Craig was both ahead of his time and an old school-type of player. He ran with the reckless abandoned of a fullback but had the hands of a wide receiver, catching more than 65 passes in a season five times while rushing for 700 or more yards in a season six times. Perhaps keeping Craig out of the Hall of Fame is the same argument that kept Terrell Davis out of the Hall for so many years: his career wasn’t long enough. Craig played 11 seasons, mostly with the Niners (1983-90) but had one lackluster season with the Raiders (1991) where he still rushed for 590 yards in a playoff season for the team, and two forgettable years (1992-93) with the Minnesota Vikings. What’s not factored in with Craig’s memorable career is the 16 playoff games he played in and started for San Francisco, which is the equivalent to a full season. Craig’s playoff accomplishments are this: 841 rushing yards, 606 receiving yards and nine touchdowns, including three in Super Bowl XIX. Football fans will note that the 49er dynasty ended with a Craig fumble against the New York Giants just as the Niners were trying to kill out the clock with a 13-12 lead in the NFC Championship Game following the 1990 season. Craig’s fumble led to Lawrence Taylor’s recovery and the Giants were able to win the game in the final seconds on a field goal by Matt Bahr. It was Craig’s last game with the team and a heartbreaking way to go out but as I said before, Craig was ahead of his time. He was a perfect fit for the West Coast Offense but his “high knees” running style and toughness while engaging tacklers harkened back to the running backs before he starred. Craig was voted to four Pro Bowls and that was during the heydays of Hall of Famers like Walter Payton, Eric Dickerson and Tony Dorsett along with 1,000 yard rushers Joe Morris, Herschel Walker, George Rogers and Gerald Riggs. He was the 1988 NFL Offensive Player of the Year, rushing for a career-high 1,500 yards and leading the 49ers to a win in Super Bowl XXIII, and he still ranks in the Top 10 in several Super Bowl offensive categories. For his career, Craig won three Super Bowls and scored four touchdowns in those championships. He’s the only player in NFL history with 13,000+ yards from scrimmage NOT in the Hall of Fame. Put. The. Man. In.

Do you agree or disagree with my argument? Are there other players from the 1970s, 1980s or 1990s more deserving of Hall of Fame recognition than the seven players I blogged about?

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Joe Moorhead’s rare adaptability could play quite well at Mississippi State

If you can win playoff games at Fordham and turn around the Penn State offense almost immediately, you can win in Starkville.

The SEC has always been a defense-first kind of league. Back in the 1950s, when a different league team was making a national title run each year, it was always based around dominant D: Auburn allowed 28 total points in an unbeaten 1957 run, Ole Miss allowed 21 points in 1959, Alabama allowed 25 points in 1961, etc.

Defense is in the DNA. But points aren’t a bad thing. Nor is adapting with the times.

The SEC technically still grades out as the nation’s best conference, on average, this season. But after enjoying a massive advantage as recently as two or three years ago, the advantage has shrunk quickly, if not disappeared altogether.

You can make the case that coaching hires have been the primary cause.

While the ACC has upgraded its coaching roster significantly, adding Mark Richt, Bobby Petrino, Justin Fuente, Dave Clawson, Bronco Mendenhall, and others within the last few years, the SEC has been a little bit more predictable.

From 2013-16, the league hired nine new head coaches. Six of them came from the defensive side; of the four hires made in 2015-16, three had Nick Saban ties.

To a degree, those hires worked out. Georgia’s Kirby Smart appears to be the one former Saban assistant who has flashed a Saban-level ceiling, Florida Jim McElwain managed to snag two division titles before flaming out, and while South Carolina’s Will Muschamp isn’t putting an aesthetically pleasing team on the field, he’s 8-4.

While football is a copycat’s game, copying the master doesn’t usually produce master-level results (Smart aside).

You might need to figure out a different path.

So far, so good. At least six league teams are replacing head coaches — Arkansas, Florida, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, Tennessee, and Texas A&M — and the first three to make their choices have all gone after offensive guys.

Florida’s Dan Mullen is a former Gator coordinator whose Mississippi State offense has ranked 31st or better in Off. S&P+ in five of the last eight seasons.

New full-time Ole Miss head coach Matt Luke was offensive co-coordinator at Duke and Ole Miss. He helped to raise Duke’s Off. S&P+ rankings from the 100s to the 50s, and Ole Miss’ offense has ranked 14th or better in each of the last three years (including 2017, in which the Rebels dealt with QB injuries).

Forced to replace Mullen, Mississippi State has evidently selected Penn State coordinator Joe Moorhead, who oversaw possibly the most fun offense in the country over the last two years.

For all we know, the other three league schools could still skew toward defense. Tennessee, after all, tried to sign Ohio State defensive coordinator Greg Schiano before unsuccessfully going after offense-friendly Oklahoma State head coach Mike Gundy on Tuesday. (The next options on the list appear to be offensive guys, at least.) And who the hell knows what Arkansas is going to do? Arkansas doesn’t, therefore we don’t.

The Moorhead hire is particularly intriguing.

First, he comes from outside the league. A few outside influences aren’t a bad thing. We don’t know anything about the staff he will put together or how he will establish ties in a new recruiting area, but the organic growth of his offensive system has been startling.

The first time Moorhead was officially in charge of an offense, he raised Georgetown’s scoring average from 17.4 points per game to 22.6 in 2003. He ended up on Rob Brookhart’s staff at Akron, and in three years, the Zips’ Off. S&P+ ranking rose from 100th to 55th. His first year as Randy Edsall’s coordinator at UConn (2009) produced a six-point improvement and No. 31 ranking in Off. S&P+.

He became Fordham head coach in 2012, and after a 6-5 debut, the Rams took off. They went 32-8 from 2013-15, and this Bruce Feldman piece does a great job of outlining all the tweaks and tricks that took shape. The Rams stole from exciting offenses all the time.

Fordham head coach Andrew Breiner (Fordham offensive coordinator/QB coach, 2011-14): I can still remember it was Eastern Illinois vs. Northern Illinois. They were on the right hash going into the end zone away from the scoreboard in NIU. We probably watched [EIU QB Jimmy Garoppolo] 15 times. Our staff got into an argument over whether they were actually reading a safety in the run game or not. Joe was saying, “I think they’re reading the safety.”

I said, “No, how can you ask the QB to read a safety [as a run defender] and make a throw?” We kept going back and forth on it, and the more we watched it, the more I realized Joe was right. The safety was making an immediate movement towards the line of scrimmage, reacting on the run, and then they’re bringing the post right behind him from the X-receiver into the boundary.

Davidson co-offensive coordinator Tim Zetts (Fordham running backs coach, 2011-14):: The thing that Joe did which was phenomenal was finding that next thing to be innovative. Before he did that, he was always saying, “If you can’t block him, read him. He’s too good to block.” He was finding ways to cancel [interior] players out.

An open mind led to Moorhead’s early adoption of the run-pass option, but his offense is still grounded in rushing potential and H-backs.

[Smart Football’s Chris] Brown thinks offenses will move more in the direction of Penn State, continuing to chug down the RPO tracks but trying to get the quarterback hit less.

“If you watch Penn State,” he says, “almost everything for them is based on having five interior linemen and an H-Back. Oklahoma State is still in 10 personnel [one back, four receivers] because of those great receivers, but now it’s much more 11 personnel [one back, one tight end or H-Back] — and they’re usually blocking the six interior linemen and linebackers.

“They’re not very often leaving the defensive end unblocked so he can crash down on the quarterback as he’s making one of those downfield RPOs. They’ll do a bunch of variations of that.”

Penn State head coach James Franklin’s trajectory in Happy Valley took a nearly 180-degree turn when he brought Moorhead to town. His first two Nittany Lion teams each went 7-6, and despite the presence of blue-chip quarterback Christian Hackenberg, they ranked 112th and 62nd, respectively, in Off. S&P+.

In need of an energy boost and a healthy dose of adaptability, Franklin looked to Moorhead. PSU improved immediately, to 18th last year and 12th this year, and they are 21-5 since he came to town. Brent Pry’s defense has been top-20 in Def. S&P+ both years, too — this hasn’t been a one-dimensional team — but the defense was good before Moorhead arrived. The offense, not so much.

Moorhead won’t inherit a Saquon Barkley in Starkville.

He will take over an offense scheduled to return quarterback Nick Fitzgerald, running back Aeris Williams and Kylin Hill, a foursome of freshman and sophomore receivers (Deddrick Thomas, Reggie Todd, Keith Mixon, Jamal Couch) that combined for 800 receiving yards and eight touchdowns, and an offensive line with only one 2017 senior.

His work with Fitzgerald could be fascinating. As important as Barkley (2,630 rushing yards, 996 receiving yards, 41 combined touchdowns in 2016-17) has been, Moorhead’s bond with quarterback Trace McSorley was as or more vital.

McSorley's completion rate was just 55 seven games into his first season with Moorhead, his passer rating just 133.4. Since then: 63 percent and 162.1. He caught fire, playing nearly perfect ball in the Big Ten title game against Wisconsin and throwing four TDs in the tight Rose Bowl loss to USC. This year, he's thrown for 3,228 yards and 26 touchdowns despite rarely playing in fourth quarters. (Not including sacks, he’s also rushed for 1,093 yards in the last two seasons.)

Moorhead will only get one year with Fitzgerald. The QB pipeline isn’t dry after him, mind you — four-star prospect Keytaon Thompson got thrown into the deep end when Fitzgerald went down early in the Egg Bowl — but how quickly Moorhead and Fitzgerald can reach the same page will set the bar for 2018.

(A defense with only two seniors among its top 16 tacklers can’t hurt.)

Moorhead is known for points, but his resourcefulness could pay off just as much.

From 1954 to 2010, Fordham didn't offer football scholarships. The Rams play in the Patriot League, a non-scholarship league. In 2009, they elected to offer scholarships, which disqualified them from the Patriot League title but allowed them to better position for at-large playoff bids.

Still, they were playing catch-up. Despite this, creaky facilities, and crowded offices, Moorhead’s Rams indeed made the FCS playoffs for three straight years. They beat Sacred Heart in the first round in both 2013 and 2014 and lost only to excellent teams each time: Towson in 2013 (the Tigers went on to make the finals), New Hampshire in 2014 (the Wildcats made the semis), and Chattanooga in 2015 (the Mocs barely lost to No. 1 Jacksonville State in the next round).

In Feldman’s oral history piece, Zetts said, “I don’t think there’s anybody who can do more with less than Joe. That’s him. His big thing was, ‘It doesn’t matter.’ That ended up being the mindset of our players. They were numb to it.” You could argue Moorhead’s culture and Tripper-from-Meatballs attitude might be even more important than his RPOs.

The MSU job is commonly regarded as the hardest in the SEC West — the facilities are good but no better than that of division peers, there’s less history to sell, and Starkville is small and isolated.

Before leaving for Florida, Mullen raised expectations to a nearly unforeseen level. He inherited a program that had won just 29 games in eight years and, in its history, had attended 13 bowls with three top-15 finishes. In nine seasons, he engineered eight bowl bids and two top-15 finishes.

This is a much better job than it once was, but you’re always going to be playing catch-up in Starkvegas. That won’t be anything new to Moorhead.

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Grading Super Bowl XLI

What was the final score?

Indianapolis 29, Chicago 17

How much of the game was close? What was the “edge of your seat factor” like? (20 points)

It was a close game, but the only reason anyone would have been on the edge of their seat is that it was a Super Bowl. It was a garbage football game for the most part. That said, the Colts had a 22-17 lead heading into the fourth quarter. In theory, it was anybody’s game at this point. In practice, it probably would have required a defensive or special teams touchdown for Chicago to win.

After Devin Hester returned the opening kickoff for a touchdown, this is what the Bears did with the ball: Three and out, fumbled kickoff, 57 yard TD drive (52 yards on one run from Thomas Jones), fumble on the second play of the drive, three and out, three and out, three and out, fumbled snap on the first play of the drive, punt after gaining one yard, field goal after a six play 14 yard drive on a short field, interception, interception, turnover on downs, end of game.

The Bears offense really only put together one decent drive all day, and that was almost entirely due to a great run from Jones. If they were going to win this one late, it sure wasn’t going to come from the offense. It seemed extremely likely that the Colts would hang on to their lead, but it was far from a certainty. (Score: 11 out of 20)

Was there any kind of comeback? Was there ever any indication that the team which was trailing had a chance to come from behind and win? (15 points)

I’ll say this about the Bears: They hung in there and gave themselves a chance to make a big play and steal the Super Bowl. As I mentioned, quarterback Rex Grossman wasn’t going to engineer a Joe Montana-style comeback, but they might not have needed anything like that. Chicago had Devin Hester, arguably the greatest kick returner in the history of professional football. That could have been enough. (It wasn’t, of course.)

Relying on kick return touchdowns is not a great long-term plan for scoring points, but it wasn’t implausible. Just highly unlikely. (Score: 6 out of 15) Did the great players come through with great performances? (15 points) Not really.

Peyton Manning was good but not great, likely due in part to a strong and steady rain that affected both offenses all night. Manning was named the MVP after completing 25 of his 38 pass attempts for 247 yards, a touchdown, and an interception. I wouldn’t have voted for Manning for MVP - Colts running back Dominic Rhodes was the best player on the field that day - but it says a lot that Manning took the award home after an unremarkable passing night.

The Colts’ star receivers, Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne, were also solid but unremarkable. Harrison had five grabs for 59 yards while Wayne caught two passes for 61 yards and a score. Indy’s rookie running back Joseph Addai ran for 77 yards and had 66 more yards on ten grabs.

All of them played well, but none were great. As I mentioned, Dominic Rhodes was the best player on the field, running for 113 yards and a score. He was hardly a star, though, and was out of the NFL two years later. Rhodes resurfaced as a key member of the UFL’s Florida Tuskers, which is hardly an indicator of greatness.

The Bears had no great players on their offense. Thomas Jones and Muhsin Muhammad were the closest thing they had to “great” skill position players. Both had good careers, but neither was any kind of national star. Both played well in Super Bowl XLI. Jones had 112 yards rushing and almost singlehandedly drove the Bears to their only offensive touchdown of the night. That touchdown was scored by none other than Muhsin Muhammad.

The standout player on the Chicago defense of this era was linebacker Brian Urlacher, who had a game befitting his stature as one of the top defenders of his era. Chicago kickoff returner Devin Hester took the opening kick back for a touchdown, but was largely invisible for the rest of the day. (Score: 8 out of 15)

Were the teams historically great? (10 points)

The Colts were there or thereabouts. Peyton Manning, of course, is one of the great passers in football history. His receivers, Harrison and Wayne, were the closest thing the NFL has had to Rice and Taylor since Rice and Taylor. The Colts won five consecutive division championships from 2003-2007, finishing in the top three in the league in points scored in each one of those seasons. They had nine consecutive seasons with 10+ wins in the regular season. This Colts team was about as dominant as a team can be without putting together multiple Super Bowl championships. That’ll happen when you have to play the Belichick/Brady Patriots in the playoffs every year.

As for the Bears? Well… They had a good season in 2006. Here are their annual NFL ranks in points scored from 1996-2009. See if you can spot the Super Bowl season: 26, 28, 25, 25, 28, 11, 27, 23, 32, 26, 2, 18, 14, 19. They rode an offense playing out of its mind and a strong defense to an NFC title. And they deserved it. The ‘06 Bears had the best record in the conference, had the highest-scoring offense in the conference, and had the stingiest defense in the conference. For one year, this was a great team. They just weren’t able to repeat the trick. (Score: 8 out of 10)

Were there memorable moments that will be talked about for decades? (10 points)

Devin Hester’s kickoff return touchdown is, to this day, the fastest touchdown in Super Bowl history. If a person were to have a single lasting memory of Super Bowl XLI, it’s most likely of Hester taking it to the house.

Otherwise, the memorable moments are just collections of things like Rex Grossman fumbling snaps, Peyton Manning completing third down passes, and Dominic Rhodes coming through time and again when his team needed tough yardage. (Score: 6 out of 10)

How was the quality of play? Were there a lot of penalties, punts, and turnovers? (15 points)

Garbage. It was garbage.

But it’s tough to blame these teams - the game was played in a driving rainstorm and they use a new ball on every play in the Super Bowl. Wet, slippery footballs are not easy to keep in your hands and it showed. The two teams combined for six fumbles and eight turnovers on the day. Twice, a snap hit Bears quarterback Rex Grossman in the hands and bounced away from him. It was that kind of day.

There weren’t a ton of punts, perhaps because the two teams were too busy turning the ball over to get to fourth down. Penalties weren’t a huge factor either. It was just all those fumbles and turnovers. (Score: 5 out of 15)

Are there any other factors that add to the greatness the game? This covers things like weather, story line, rivalry matchup, legacy franchises, unexpected results, etc. (15 points)

This was a pretty bland Super Bowl in a lot of ways. The rain added an extra dimension to the game itself, but the matchup wasn’t exactly head-turning.

At this point in his career, it had become clear that Colts quarterback Peyton Manning was one of the greats of all time. I’ve never bought the idea that a quarterback needs to win a Super Bowl ring to be elite - that suggests Trent Dilfer is in some way more worthy than Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, Dan Fouts, and Warren Moon - but there’s a common belief that QB careers are incomplete without a ring. This was Manning’s first chance to get that done.

The two head coaches, Tony Dungy of the Colts and Lovie Smith of the Bears, were the first two African American head coaches in the Super Bowl. Obviously, one would become the first African American head coach to win a Super Bowl. Dungy and Smith had some history together, as it was Dungy that gave Lovie his first job as an NFL assistant.

This was a matchup of two completely opposite teams: The Colts had an elite offense and the worst rushing defense in the league. The Bears had an outstanding defense but contemporary observers weren’t exactly sold on the offense. It was strength against strength and weakness against weakness. (Score: 6 out of 15)

How does the game grade overall? (sum of all previous categories, 100 points)

50 out of 100. Not particularly well, unsurprisingly. The Bears offense never showed any signs of life, none of the big names had memorable performances, and there were a squajillion turnovers.

Ratings and rankings of Super Bowls I-XLI:

T1. Super Bowl XIII - Pittsburgh 35, Dallas 31 - 87 points T1. Super Bowl XXXVIII - New England 32, Carolina 29 - 87 points 3. Super Bowl XXXVI - New England 20, St. Louis 17 - 86 points 4. Super Bowl XXIII - San Francisco 20, Cincinnati 16 - 85 points T5. Super Bowl XXV - New York Giants 20, Buffalo 19 - 84 points T5. Super Bowl XXXIV - St. Louis 23, Tennessee 16 - 84 points 7. Super Bowl X - Pittsburgh 21, Dallas 17 - 80 points 8. Super Bowl XXXII - Denver 31, Green Bay 24 - 77 points 9. Super Bowl VII - Miami 14, Washington 7 - 74 points 10. Super Bowl XXX - Dallas 27, Pittsburgh 17 - 69 points T11. Super Bowl IX - Pittsburgh 16, Minnesota 6 - 68 points T11. Super Bowl XXXI - Green Bay 35, New England 21 - 68 points T13. Super Bowl XVII - Washington 27, Miami 17 - 67 points T13. Super Bowl XXVIII - Dallas 30, Buffalo 13 - 67 points 15. Super Bowl XXXIX - New England 24, Philadelphia 21 - 66 points 16. Super Bowl XIV - Pittsburgh 31, Los Angeles 19 - 65 points 17. Super Bowl XVI - San Francisco 26, Cincinnati 21 - 62 points T18. Super Bowl XL - Pittsburgh 21, Seattle 10 - 61 points T18. Super Bowl XIX - San Francisco 38, Miami 16 - 61 points T20. Super Bowl III - New York Jets 16, Baltimore 7 - 58 points T20. Super Bowl XXII - Washington 42, Denver 10 - 58 points 22. Super Bowl XXI - New York Giants 39, Denver 20 - 57 points 23. Super Bowl XXVII - Dallas 52, Buffalo 17 - 55 points 24. Super Bowl XXXIII - Denver 34, Atlanta 19 - 53 points 25. Super Bowl VI - Dallas 24, Miami 3 - 52 points 26. Super Bowl XX - Chicago 46, New England 10 - 51 points T27. Super Bowl I - Green Bay 35, Kansas City 10 - 50 points T27. Super Bowl XXXVII - Tampa Bay 48, Oakland 21 - 50 points T27. Super Bowl XLI - Indianapolis 29, Chicago 17 - 50 points T30. Super Bowl XVIII - Los Angeles Raiders 38, Washington 9 - 49 points T30. Super Bowl XXIV - San Francisco 55, Denver 10 - 49 points 32. Super Bowl XXVI - Washington 37, Buffalo 24 - 48 points 33. Super Bowl VIII - Miami 24, Minnesota 7 - 47 points 34. Super Bowl XV - Oakland 27, Philadelphia 10 - 44 points 35. Super Bowl IV - Kansas City 23, Minnesota 7 - 43 points 36. Super Bowl XXXV - Baltimore 34, New York Giants 7 - 42 points T37. Super Bowl II - Green Bay 33, Oakland 14 - 40 points T37. Super Bowl V - Baltimore 16, Dallas 13 - 40 points 39. Super Bowl XXIX - San Francisco 49, San Diego 26 - 39 points 40. Super Bowl XII - Dallas 27, Denver 10 - 38 points 41. Super Bowl XI - Oakland 32, Minnesota 14 - 35 points

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Your Monday Morning Roundup

It wasn’t pretty, but it got the job done.

The Eagles earned a sloppy 33-10 win over the San Francisco 49ers in less than ideal conditions yesterday. With the victory, the Birds improved to 7-1 and extended their win streak to six games, both of which are best in the NFL right now. Go through the win again with our live-thread.

Also, see how the CB staff did with their predictions for the contest.

Carson Wentz and Alshon Jeffery connected for the first time this season the way everyone envisioned in the off-season:

WR1 TD! http://pic.twitter.com/Swo2lPGQWV

— Chris Jastrzembski (@CFJastrzembski) October 29, 2017

And that prompted another baseball celebration afterwards:

In Ertz's defense, Alshon was crowding the plate. #FlyEaglesFly http://pic.twitter.com/ifrTMJxe8W

— Philadelphia Eagles (@Eagles) October 29, 2017

Also, it was the first time Brent Celek has faced his little brother, who is on the 49ers, in an NFL game.

For those of you who watched the game at home, your heart stopped for a few seconds when the feed suddenly changed to FXX.

Stay locked to CB all day today for the best day-after Eagles coverage around.

The Birds host the Broncos next week. It’s slated for a 1pm kick-off and is on CBS.

Let’s go.

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The Redskins and Cowboys battled in torrential downpours with Dallas emerging victorious. The loss severely hurt Washington’s playoff chances this season. The New York Giants were on a bye.

Elsewhere around the NFL, all except for a few Texans kneeled during the national anthem in response to their owner’s remarks during the week:

http://pic.twitter.com/XeBcrrgqtO

— Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) October 29, 2017

They blew a late lead to the Seahawks.

The Patriots defeated the Chargers, 21-13, and Bill Bellichek was his usual self afterwards:

Belichick just ate this guy's heart. His "Ellis from Die Hard" manner didn't help his cause. #NEvsLAC #Patriots http://pic.twitter.com/CGsgMaqQiv

— Tom Shattuck (@tomshattuck) October 29, 2017

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From the gridiron to the diamond…Game 5 of the World Series was won last night by the Astros, 13-12.

The Sixers were there:

.@sixers @mlbworld_series in Houston! http://pic.twitter.com/MMCcizfgaE

— Tom McGinnis (@McGinnisThomas) October 29, 2017

Joel Embiid was scouting the talent:

#76ers center Joel Embiid is a #Dodgers fan. Who knew? http://pic.twitter.com/Cce2S50E4z

— Jerry Crasnick (@jcrasnick) October 29, 2017

Safe to say Embiid was enjoying the game as well:

Joel Embiid was all of us watching that game!

(: @JoelEmbiid) http://pic.twitter.com/0lN5XxFa3C

— SB Nation (@SBNation) October 30, 2017

Game 6 is slated for Halloween Night at 8:20pm in LA.

Hopefully by then this baseball-gate will be figured out:

Pitchers and coaches from both the Dodgers and Astros complained Saturday night about the World Series baseballs—and this time the controversy is not just about liveliness. They say there is a new problem: the baseballs used in the World Series are slicker than the ones used in the regular season because of a difference in the grain of the leather. The slicker World Series balls particularly make it hard to throw a good slider, they claim.

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Perhaps Gabe Kapler could hitch a ride back to Philly with the Sixers as Kapler will become the next Phillies manager. It’s safe to say the Phillies will have the hottest manager in baseball.

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More not-so-good, but not-so-unexpected news came down on Sunday afternoon regarding Markelle Fultz and his shoulder:

A team source confirms that Fultz has now seen three specialists, all of whom have concluded that there’s no structural damage. From the sounds of it, Fultz should be eligible to return sometime after three weeks, presumably once he’s brought back up to speed and has time to practice with the team after his follow-up visit. I would also imagine that sitting Fultz has a lot to do with his mental state as well. Playing through an injury while limited as an established player is one thing, doing so as a rookie is another. It does no one any good to for Fultz to have his confidence further eroded playing with an injury.

Without the top draft pick, the Sixers earned a nice, road win over Nerlens Noel and the Dallas Mavericks on Saturday night. Our Kevin Kinkead compiled his takeaways.

The Sixers visit the Rockets tonight at 8pm.

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The Flyers defeated the Maple Leafs over the weekend, but suffered a big loss. From Anthony SanFilippo’s takeaways:

He [Gostisbehere] was a victim of an unnecessary hit by Leafs center Leo Komorov that drove him into the boards face first, resulting in a probable concussion.

It’s the second head injury this month for Gostisbehere, who was in danger of missing the season opener after a similar hit in the Flyers’ final preseason game, but he played and prospect defenseman Sam Morin sat in the press box for the first four games of the season before being sent back to the Phantoms.

With Andrew MacDonald already sidelined for at least a month with a knee injury, the Flyers defense could be in dire straits if Gostisbehere has to miss any extended time.

The Flyers return to the ice tonight at home against the Arizona Coyotes. Puck drops at 7pm.

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In college football, Penn State was upset by Ohio State as the Nittany Lions blew an 18-point lead, twice. Also, surging Iowa State upset then fourth-ranked TCU.

Penn State wasn’t the the only one getting tripped up at the Horseshoe:

that freaking stair…. #GoBucks http://pic.twitter.com/Jjg3PonZW9

— abby grau (@abby_grau13) October 29, 2017

The result dropped PSU in the latest Associated Press Top 25 and catapulted the Buckeyes. Here is the new top 10:

Alabama

Georgia

Ohio State

Wisconsin

Notre Dame

Clemson

Penn State

Oklahoma

Miami

TCU

Those rankings lose meaning a bit starting this week with the first College Football Playoff Rankings of the season set to be released on Tuesday night.

Locally, Temple fell to Army in overtime, but had a feel-good moment late last week. I love these videos:

"He is EVERYTHING that this program is all about."-@CoachCollins

Pretty great morning for Rob Ritrovato… Who is now on full scholarship http://pic.twitter.com/D7I6QP9aiY

— Temple Football (@Temple_FB) October 27, 2017

In the Arizona State-USC game, the officials needed to get the teams from the locker room to finish the first half.

Also, Florida and head coach Jim McElwain parted ways on Sunday. Butch Jones and Tennessee may follow suit soon. Who could replace Jones? Potentially Jon Gruden:

Sources have confirmed to The Read Optional reports from elsewhere that Tennessee has offered over $10 million a year to Jon Gruden.

This was kind of awkward:

He cut me 5 times before the age of 25, but look at us now…Just 2 best friends sharing an ESPN desk! #Eagles http://pic.twitter.com/Kon4z5YfEm

— Emmanuel Acho (@thEMANacho) October 28, 2017

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In somewhat sports news, Shooter McGavin was arrested for DWI.

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The latest Crossing BroadCast dropped this morning talking Eagles-Niners.

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In non-sports news…

Philadelphia is in contention for Amazon’s HQ2, by many people’s opinion.

Chik-Fil-A is testing spicy chicken strips in Philly.

First indictments in the Mueller investigation are set to come today.

And lastly, an Apple engineer lost his job because his daughter vlogged iPhone X:

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Week 8: Deep Sleepers and DFS Bargains

Can Andy Dalton deliver for desperate fantasy owners in Week 8? Yahoo fanalyst Liz Loza digs his matchup.

It’s time for a TGIF edition of Deep Sleepers and DFS Bargains. I made good on two of my picks last week (Carson Wentz – QB1 and Dion Lewis – RB20). Let’s try to do better this go-around.

To review … all of these players are owned in less than 60 percent of Yahoo leagues (at time of writing) and/or are a significant value in our daily game. They’re not the obvious picks, and they’re not without their risks, but that’s why they’re so cheap and available! I’d never advocate taking all of these guys, but rather utilizing them if a manager were in a pinch at a position or aiming to build a “stars and scrubs” sort of DFS lineup.

 Andy Dalton, QB, Cincinnati Bengals ($27) After failing to score over the season’s first two weeks and since Bill Lazor’s installation as the team’s offensive coordinator, Dalton’s stats have improved. Posting QB1 fantasy numbers in two of his last four games, the Red Rifle has passed for nine TDs, which comes out to an average of 2.25 per contest.

With stud A.J. Green dragging him into production, and competent red-zone threats Brandon LaFell and Tyler Kroft increasingly involved, Dalton’s completion percentage has risen by nearly 15 percent (an average of 69.73 percent over his last four outings). This week, he’ll be additionally gifted with the speedy talents of John Ross, as the rookie figures to see his first pro action Sunday. Facing a Colts defense (at home, no less!) that’s allowed the second-most passing yards per contest (over 300 per game), the Ginger Fist is a steal of a deal at just $27 in our daily game.

Wendell Smallwood, RB, Philadelphia Eagles ($16) With six teams on bye, and starters out due to injury or suspension, fantasy owners have to get creative with their RBs. Yes, the Eagles employ a frustrating three-headed hydra, but Smallwood’s upside makes him the most intriguing option in this backfield. After all, this is a pass-catching back who’s averaging 4.8 YPC against base fronts.

Returning from a two-game absence (knee), the second-year RB got the start in Week 7. While he managed only 39 combined yards on 10 total touches, he was efficient through the air, catching both of his targets. His looks figure to grow in a matchup against the 49ers. Lit-up by Ezekiel Elliott on the ground and  via the air last Sunday, San Francisco is clearly missing the talents of DE Arik Armstead (hand). Furthermore, as bad as the 49ers secondary has been, their run defense has been even worse, allowing the fourth-most rushing yards per contest. Yes, LaGarrett Blount will see his standard 14 carries, but there’s room for Smallwood to make a FLEX-worthy impact. He’s inside my top 30 players at the position in Week 8.

Josh Doctson, WR, Washington Redskins ($13) Fully healthy and building chemistry with Kirk Cousins, Doctson’s star is on the rise. In fact, he got the start over Terrelle Pryor in Week 7. On the field for over 90 percent of the team’s snaps and seeing his highest target total of the season (five), the TCU product lined up as the Redskins’ “X” receiver. While head coach Jay Gruden has threatened to use a “hot hand approach” at wideout (insert eye roll emoji here), the franchise clearly wants their first-round pick from a year ago to succeed. Hosting a Dallas secondary that’s allowing the sixth-most fantasy points per game and has given up the fifth-most TDs to opposing WRs, Doctson is on the WR2/WR3 bubble in Week 8.

George Kittle, TE, San Francisco 49ers ($12) After a week of Hawkeye-to-Hawkeye hype with zero result, the heat surrounding Kittle has cooled considerably. But I think now is the time to double-down. Listen, C.J. Beathard is going to get beat hard at Lincoln Financial Field on Sunday. But while under duress, he’ll need a security blanket to rely on … and that binky will take the shape of a 6-foot-4 and 260-pound Midwesterner named George Kittle.

Think about it. The Eagles just got smoked by Jordan Reed (8-64-2) on Monday night. Not simply because Reed is an athletic freak, but because MLB Jordan Hicks tore his Achilles in the game’s opening moments. That’s a massive blow to Jim Schwartz’s defense … and one that Kyle Shanahan is likely to exploit. The targets may not have been there for Kittle last week, but the matchup against Dallas (a unit that’s given up just one score at the TE position all year) was far from prime. This week, however, give me the whole Kittle and caboodle.

Ryan Griffin, TE, Houston Texans ($10) You’re not going to have many more chances to use Griffin, as C.J. Fiedorowicz is close to return (concussion). But if you feel the need to stream in Week 8, you could do a lot worse than the Texans’ back-up TE. Averaging nearly five targets per game since Fiedorowicz was concussed, Griffin garnered eight looks in Week 6, just ahead of the team’s Week 7 bye. Facing a Seattle defense in which the corners clamp down so tightly on the perimeter that there’s sometimes a softness that exists over the middle of the field, Griffin has a shot to produce. The Seahawks are allowing an average of five catches and over 60 yards per outing to opposing tight ends. Second in team targets, Griffin’s volume is better than most heading into Week 8.

Watch List

Deonte Thompson, WR, Buffalo Bills ($10) Last week I gave Zay Jones one last chance … and, surprise, he let the opportunity (literally) slip through his fingers. However, Bears’ cast-off Thompson showed eyebrow-raising rapport with Tyrod Taylor, converting all four of his targets for 107 yards. It’s not crazy to believe that he’s leap-frogged the disappointing rookie on Buffalo’s depth chart. Thompson will face a beatable Raiders secondary in Week 8.

Phillip Dorsett, WR, New England Patriots ($10) There’s a real chance Danny Amendola (knee) won’t play Sunday, which would mean an increased role for Dorsett. In possession of 4.3 speed, Dorsett has flashed plenty since entering the league. He’d likely draw slot-corner Desmond King, who has allowed a passer rating of 114.4. Dorsett is currently available in 98 percent of Yahoo leagues.

More Fantasy Football advice on Yahoo Sports

Dig Deep with Liz on Twitter @LizLoza_FF.

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