#Jedi nonesense

[abimee]

like im very horse with blinders on with straight romance but that just felt like the most no build up ''lets just do this to meet the four-ending post-A route requirement'' like you cannot influence me with your jedi mind tricks to ever believe any of that. and dont even try that ''well she only ever opens up to children so she probably kept it hidden in her heart becausw tyrann-'' nonesense because WHAT ABOUT NIER

[ginathethundergoddess]

The Last Jedi, or SOMEONE REALLY SHOULD HAVE EXPLAINED HOW ANAKIN FELL TO LUKE IN A WAY THAT WASN'T SPOKEN IN RIDDLES.

Spoilers ahead but also some meta. I don't know how to add a line break/cut on mobile.

I loved the last Jedi but some stuff about luke's character bothered me. He felt ooc from what his character arc ended with in ROTJ. Granted this is a man haunted by failures and the death of legit everything he worked for, but I even then it felt out of character for Luke Skywalker, the Jedi who brought anakin back from the dark side, to believe that killing his nephew was the only thing he could do to stop his fall. That's not the man who almost died because he believed his father had good left in him, even after all the crimes Vader committed.

So here's my theory: back when sidious was manipulating anakin, the Jedi council missed HUGE signs that something was up with Anakin. They knew there was sith involved, but didn't suspect it was palpatine. (Despite the FLASHING NEON WARNING SIGNS). All they knew was that anakin was a shatter point, a dangerous one (still should have trained him harder and maybe not let him get all cozy with palpatine in ways NO OTHER JEDI WAS REALLY ALLOWED, but I digress.) But not how he played into it. Or how palpatine played into it. This is because palpatine was able to manipulate the force enough to cloud even the foresight of yoda. He was virtually untraceable in the force. This made him able to plant seeds of doubt in anakin's mind that over the course of the clone wars were one by one confirmed.

Seed one: padme would die. Palpatine manipulated anakin's force visions to constantly torment him with visions of padme dying. Anakin's love for her, which was a good thing and could have done wonders for the order, became instead a tool of control. Anakin would do anything for her.

Seed two: the Jedi were corrupt and wanted power, and didn't think him worthy enough to be a Jedi knigt, and that the Jedi were turning from their own code and becoming hypocritical. Palpatine manipulated the way anakin viewed the council and its actions. As more and more death came of the Jedi actions throughout the war, anakin slowly began to have his doubts confirmed. The loss of his padawan, Ahsoka Tano, to the machinations of another padawan who had lost faith made anakin even more wary of the Jedi. Palpatine used the destruction of the war to frame the Jedi order in an even worse light. When Obi-Wan was no longer immediately at Anakin's side to ground him and help him see clearly, Anakin was weak to Palpatine's influence. It came to a head when the council tried using him as a spy on palpatine, because by then Anakin believed palpatine to be a loyal and sympathetic friend who shared his doubts about the order and would listen to his problems. He saw the jedi council's caution as hypocrisy and a power move. This escalated when, upon revealing the identity of the sith lord to them, mace windu did as Jedi usually do with sith and IMMEDIETLY went to confront him. Anakin saw this as betrayal- a peace keeping order that supposedly fought for justice was going to murder a man that had otherwise been a good person and strong leader throughout a bloody and destructive war. There would be no trial, no negotiations. Just straight up slaughter. This confirmed what palpatine had been feeding him about the Jedi order; they wanted power. This is why he was so quick to jump to Palpatine's aid. The jedi had been lured into a position where they looked like the villains.

Seed three: isolation. Because the war was wrapping up by episode 3, the Jedi were spread out. Anakin didn't have his padawan to distract him as she left the order herself. He wasn't always able to see padme, and despite the fact they were unstoppable together, He and Obi-Wan were not put on the same campaigns. The lack of friends around himto bolster his bonds and make him stronger in the light side allowed for palpatine to slip into anakin's mind. He slipped seeds of distrust and doubt about Obi wan and Padme , both of whom were taking stands against palpatine in ways the chancellor manipulated in anakin's mind to look sinister. Obi-Wan was a Jedi loyal to the council; padme was one of the senators most outspoken against the chancellor's draconian laws and regime and the sudden powers he's was wresting that seemed to turn him autocratic. ( mind you that Anakin was a long time soldier in the war and saw all of palpatine's increased powers and official decrees as necessary. The war was bad. )

So though the failure of the jedi to perceive the manipulations of palpatine, both the force influenced ones and ones he manipulated through his actions ad grand chancellor and leader of the Republic army, the jedi had fallen into a trap where their most powerful student felt utterly betrayed by the order that saved him. It didn't help that they had somewhat alienated him during his training, treated him with less respect than he believed he deserved, and many high council members straight up didn't trust him. It also didn't help that by that point in the war the Jedi had become more combative than peace keeping. Mace windu struck first, asked questions later. It seemed a far divide from how Jedi were supposed to do things.

Now, one would think that yoda would have passed this knowledge onto Luke during his training so that Luke didn't make the same mistakes. But luke fell for the same trap as his teachers.

1.) He saw ben's power and aggression and instead of teaching him proper ways to handle it, reprimanded it, which created tension between himself and his nephew that Snokes could easily manipulate from frustration between student and teacher to outright hatred.

2.) He failed to sense Snokes manipulating ben's mind through the force. And even then failed to adequately guard his students from the dark side.

3.) Snokes was able to use ben's frustration and growing resentment to begin to isolate the teen just as palpatine did to anakin. We see ben in his own little shack, with o other students. This is not how Jedi typically function, where every student was together in shared spaces. Luke seemed to contribute to the isolation of Ben, which made him easy prey for snoke.

3.) Snokes planted seeds of doubt into Ben's mind that distanced him further from luke. He no longer saw luke's lessons as helpful or even purposeful. He began to see the training of the Jedi as laughable to those teachings of the sith. The more luke struggled to reign in Ben and teach him, the more hypocrisy Ben saw.

4.) I'm of the opinion Snokes manipulated luke himself. Luke failed to see the struggled Ben was undergoing, the torment Snokes was putting him through. Instead he saw a teenager falling deeper and deeper into the darkness. He began to believe that Ben could not be saved. This is out of character for luke, who we saw struggle with the dark side and draw anakin back to the light. I feel like, as with mace windu, whose mind was clouded and who could not sense the deeper machinations of sidious, only that there was a sith and they needed to be disposed of, luke was lured into believing the only way to stop Ben's descent before it reached critical mass was to destroy him. That sort of thinking is dark side thinking l. The nagging doubts in luke's mind that told him killing was the only answer? That's the dark side. That's fear taking control and manipulating him. Only, luke realized too late that he was falling dangerously close to the dark side. He realized it only when he went to slay his nephew while he slept, stopping at the last minute with a "Holy shit wtf am I doing?"

5.) Unfortunately he still walked right into the trap because at that moment Snokes pulled the strings. Luke never got the chance to explain because Ben woke up to find his uncle standing over him with his lightsaber. In that moment all the lies and manipulations and doubts snokes had been feeding him were confirmed. He defended himself against his attacker and betrayed by someone who was supposed to guide and protect him, fell to the dark side.

So yeah. Luke fell to the same trap the Jedi Order did. Let's hope rey doesn't do the same. Like, yoda confirming that everything Rey needs is inside her ND also she took the Jedi texts, things that CLEARLY no one has read in a damn long time, might actually help prevent this from happening again. I like how yoda is like "we were meant to pass on our successes, and our greatest failures." And honestly I think Rey will be able to actually learn something from Luke's failure. I'm not sure if she will be able to destroy Kylo Ren by bringing Ben Organa-Solo back to the light side (or to the light side for the first time ever). It was kind of clear Kylo Ren, now turned loose without Snokes pulling his strings, is now completely chaotic. He truly is the dark side made manifest; driven by passionate hate and lust for revenge, out of control and hell bent on destroying everything to dominate it all. But at least Rey will know the true extent of what a sith lord can do, and how deep manipulation goes. At least now she knows personally that the dark side is tempting, it promises answers, but what it delivers really conclusions she could have drawn for herself and eventual ruin. She fell for 2.5 seconds, and found that the dark side did not answer her questions, did not give her what she wanted, and only left her with the conclusion she had already known, but didn't want to admit to herself.

[kiwikipedia]

It Might Be Death

104. “What hurts?” “Everything.”​

Mm. Sickness whump.

AO3

Clones weren’t supposed to get sick. They weren’t. That was a simple fact of life within the GAR. Jedi did. The Nat-borns did. But Clones didn’t. Get. Sick.

So certainly, the only conclusion was that Wolffe had been poisoned and was dying.

“You’re not dying, you’re just Ill,” he heard Ghost grumble as a wet cloth was draped over his forehead. Bullshit. He was dying. He was burning up, his chest hurt, and so did his head, and his mind was too hazy for him to be anything but dying. His entire body ached and he was too damn hot.

“How is he?”

Ah, there was Buir. Sorry, Buir. You’re gonna need a new Commander.

“Nonesense, my son,” the low rumble from his Jetii reached his ears and a gentle, four taloned hand stroked his cheek. “You’ll be fine soon.”

“Won’t…” he managed, turning his head to look at the Kel Dor sitting at his bunkside, “‘m sorry… hurts…”

Plo’s brows furrowed.

“What hurts?”

Wolffe let out a shaky exhale, groaning lowly as he turned his head again. “Everything.”

Plo gently took a hold of one of his hands, the cool metal of his talon guard and skin against Wolffe’s own clammy skin felt nice and he groaned again. He needed to be cold.

“You’ll be alright, my son,” he heard his Buir murmur. “Ghost and I will take care of you.”

[spector]

not to be completely off topic but how do u feel abt the scene where luke thought abt killing kyle? dont get me wrong i wouldve killed kyle and luke was right tbh but i genuinely dont believe that after all that luke did for vader that he would just try and kill kyle.. not in the. luke is sunshine baby and would never kill anyone or some shit but in the. luke is dedicated to redeeming people. kind of way. sorry if this is nonesense im going to sleep u also make my day have an amazing day

I THINK ITS CONVOLUTED bc there are bits of luke’s characterization in tlj that i really enjoy but there are some clunkers too. i think this moment both... works and doesn't work. i think it could have been conveyed better ?? bc if they showed luke being very very afraid of letting the dark side return and feeling like it is his responsibility to stop it from coming back, playing up the angle of him feeling like its him and only him against the forces of evil .. then this desperation would have made sense. 

if they showed luke struggling with his role of THE MAIN HERO OF THE GALAXY, OUR ONLY SAVIOR, THE CHOSEN ONE, then his choice to kill kyle would have felt like the peak of that frustration. maybe he felt like he couldn't disappoint the galaxy and had to protect it from the dark side no matter what, even if there was just a hint of it in kyle ron. it could have been the result of unjust expectations that were placed on him, he saved the galaxy, now he's gonna bring the jedi back and teach them the wonders of light side etc etc

all of this could have culminated in this very dark thought of stopping kyle ron before its too late but tbh it was communicated in a very goofy way like. what the hell. he stood over his bed with a sword. whatever. 

i don't wanna sound like I'm sucking tlj’s dick bc i am not, but the parts with luke are genuinely very interesting to me bc shit sometimes breaks you and you cannot be the plucky hero forever. people always seem to ignore the fact that yes, luke doesn't wanna do the jedi shit anymore, he's tired of it etc but at the end of the movie, he does come back to the fight one last time.

which tbh is to the trilogy’s detriment bc how much more powerful would it be if luke decided to stay on that island in tlj, ignored everything but then came back in the third movie , showing that yea shit breaks you but you can always get up and try to find yourself again. but the ending of tlj is a rushed mess fhifhgi shit bro if i start picking apart tlj i might never know peace

ALSO THANK U SM sleep well <33 i will be doing that soon too, hopefully lol

[blackkatmagic]

lols, I doubt anyone could stop Jon from doing dumb reckless stuff entirety. Jedi are gonna Jedi and not even Rex can hold all that nonesense back. I'm imagining Rex gets really good at a Jon specific Look Of Firm Disapproval and Disappointment that works a good 40-60% of the time, tho!

I mean. Mostly it’s also that Rex will totally just be doing the dumb thing right alongside Jon and Jon values him not getting any bones broken enough to hang back and reassess. Usually. 

[girlbossk]

maul has a brief section in this where he’s resenting the jedi for not training him and it brings up a thought i’ve never actually considered: how do the jedi know who’s force-sensitive? because not only do they miss baby maul (who could possibly be explained away due to Dathomir Nonesense, interference from the witches, something) but palpatine?? presumably as a baby he wasn’t able to hide his presence like he can as an old man

[ao3feed-obikin]

When Time Passes

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by The_Dark_Is_Afraid_Of_Me

Ahsoka is a grown woman, and she can fear her friends death if she wants to. Syd-ney Fenwen her Thirteen year old padawan helps her see the best of things, even if he is only thirteen.

(Ahsoka's POV)

(This is more of a break from the nonesense of obi-wan and anakin's murder spree. sorry if it seems rushed. It's 3 am at the moment.)

Words: 2897, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English

Series: Part 3 of A Sith's Creed

Fandoms: Star Wars: The Clone Wars (2008) - All Media Types

Rating: Not Rated

Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence

Categories: Gen

Characters: Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Ahsoka Tano, CT-7567 | Rex, Original Jedi Character(s)

Relationships: Obi-Wan Kenobi/Anakin Skywalker, CT-7567 | Rex/Ahsoka Tano, (impiled though)

Additional Tags: Ahsoka Tano Needs a Hug, Hurt CT-7567 | Rex, Original Character(s)

read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/30ituQG

[kitty-cross]

who is working on something new when have around 8 drawings unfinished? <-- this little shit.

after watching second time TROS in cinama, even if i don’t liked some really big aspects of this storyline, i got really into the new era mood. the worldbuilding is not that bad, i live for stormpilot and i really like the new planets/creatures what the new trilogy gave to us. so even if sis @iwantacorgisobad couldn’t see much more than the movie’s ending scenes (she works in the cinema and she knows most of the film’s endings because the work), i totally spoiled her the whole movie x,D and being a good sis she was into the thinking process to make a sequel!AU to Cara and Eidana.

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of course we tought the time jump thing too, but to be honest that would be interesting only for a really short time. Eidana would laught of her ass about Kylo (she is Anakin’s bestie so yeah, like a good best friend would do), and Cara would go to cry about what the hell happened with the Order’s heritage than go and bitchslap Kylo with Leia’s total permission. The End.

the other idea, the reincarnation was for me a so much more interesting idea. something that fit to the typical AU themes, but still could make a new, good story. if after ther death they chose not became force ghosts, but reincarnate to finish their destiny. as you know, in the original, republic times Cara and Eidana was both Jedi girls, master and apprentice, and after the Order 66 they became “enemies”. Cara went to the Rebels, became a supplier pilot (with having some missions because of course working for the Rebels not that easy peasy) - and later the governess of Leia and an adviser on Alderaan; and Eidana became one of the members of the Empire because she tought maybe with this she could help more, help to stop this nonesense, help to her best friend Anakin or at least try to a little bit holds him back and to spying and giving out informations about the Empire to the Rebels. So even if they work for the same case, ending up on the total two opposite sides of the battle. we tought that would fit totally perfectly with the Star Wars symbolism, if now, the sequel’s era they would begin their jurney from the opposite sides, and they became allies and best friends to the end. Cara was one of the old jedi students at Luke’s Academy, and just like in the original version of ours, she avoids the doom because she is not there. (Like the Order 66, now the Academy’s burning) she is still a child that time and being afraid and thinking that everybody died she escapes. only some times later she returns to the Resistance to help them and became of their soilders. (another thing i like about this idea, that now Leia is Cara’s mother-like figure, what is a hint to the Cara is Leia’s governess thing). Eidana’s story this time begins in the First Order, as one of their high rank officer. We still working on this part, but what we already know is that her heart is not with them, and she became a spy to help the Resistance (hint, as I said), and after some time she totally leaves them to join the Resistance where she and Cara became the same old soul sisters like in the republic times.

This little comic I try to make is their first meeting in this life. Middle of a mission but i’m not sure which time. to me it feels like more a TFA thing than any other, but there is no perfect timeline for this atm. Let’s say the previous month of TFA. 

i tried to make them as different as i can and still being recogniseable in the same time, even in drawing. like their soul is the same so the color choice of their dress is a good base point, but in drawing the hair is one of the most recogniseable thing, so that was what I needed to change that much that as i can, and still change that little that anybody could jauntily see that they are the same. because of the sims 4 versions of the girls I used to play with, i really got used to this haircolor to Cara, and because sis nowdays like to ironing her hair this badassbitch style became Eidana’s new version. I think it is totally fit to the First Order’s aesthetic x,DD Kylo would kill anybody who would be a treat to his epic curles. And furthermore, this hair being a straightened version, has the opportunity to play with this idea I make 2 years ago and give as the cute scene possibility that Cara could play with Ana’s original curls when she discovers Eidana’s hair is originally curly. ((no, really. did you ever have a friend with that cutie curls that you just NEED to touch it and play with it how it works like a spring? XD

[hazelcephalopod]

Ya know if I lived in the Star Wars universe I'd like the force powers. Telekinesis is cool, maybe mild mind control to get people to leave me alone, etc. -the "parlor tricks". But I'd have no interest in being a Jedi or Sith. All their religious nonesense and the endless fight and whatever. Basically I'd want to be a birthday magician with real powers. New branch, "hey look, the Force. Don't be a dick. Make kids laugh."

[thottysnail]

I highkey want to write my own versions of the starwars movies but i also have to write a midterm essay and study for two more tests but also fucking Finn deserved better and Rey deserved better and Luke deserved better

[rexisbabe]

thanks @ahhrenata!!! :D 

I think my favorite art piece that didn’t get as much attention as I’d hoped for was my Mando fighting alongside Ahsoka that I made in anticipation of “The Jedi” episode. I know people are more moved by the content than the quality (well most of the time) but I did spend my entire Sunday’s afternoon working on it, suffering through back and butt pains to sit down an finish it so it wouldn’t sit in my WIPs for too long. (x) Tell me how come art pieces i work on for 30 minutes get so many notes??? 

Anywho, here is my current WIP (it’s a bit of a mess...):

Tagging (people i remember do art) at random: 

@suja-janee @yeahyeahyeaaah @ken0biz​ @kasielartist​ and anyone who wants to share their masterpieces of nonesense

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