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jt1674 · 1 month ago
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James Carr  *June 13, 1942
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The Dark End Of The Street | Imposter 2021 | Dave Gahan & Martin Gore
Не верится, что у меня дошли руки сделать этот пост. Я его так долго планировала, но не знаю почему откладывала. Наверное, мне хотелось бы сделать лучше аналитику и более цельную статью относительно моих наблюдений об альбоме Imposter (2021).
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Еще до выхода их нового альбома Memento mori (2023) я стала анализировать этот интереснейший альбом кавер-версий Дейва. Первый раз я прослушала этот альбом и отложила на полку. Затем я вернулась к более внимательному прослушиваю и изучению. Это было связано с тем, что я хотела для себя попытаться разобраться в чем на этот раз между Мартином и Дейвом произошел серьезный конфликт при записи Spirit (2017) и последовавшее охлаждение отношений после изматывающего тура в 2017-2018 гг. Конечно, времена пандемии сыграли свою роль в отдалении перспективы записать новый альбом и наладить между ними отношения. Но я думаю, что в тот момент у них были тяжелые разногласия со всеми вытекающими после. Давно не было такого кризиса, отчасти напоминающий непросто время 2002-2004 гг., когда они вдрызг по многим причинам разругались, занялись сольным творчеством, и тогда угроза прекращения группы была значительна. Определенные ответы на тот период можно найти в их текстах песен (и сольные альбомы, и новые альбомы DM).
Я их альбомы порой рассматриваю как средство общения и диалога. И такой подход находит свои подтверждения. Мной приводились некоторые фрагменты в пользу моего тезиса о диалоге. Например, в конце поста о Wagging Tongue я привожу картинку с цитатами некоторых их песен, части об этом же пост о песне The Sun And The Rainfall. Потом я делала посты о демоверсиях Secret To The End и Broken. Поэтому за поиском своих ответов я обратилась к прослушиванию альбома Imposter и изучению истории подготовки и выпуска этого альбома-истории. Любую пластинку Depeche Mode или альбомы Мартина и Дейва нужно слушать как единое произведение, музыкальную книгу или путешествие. Их работы всегда целостны, нельзя "выдергивать" оттуда одну песню или перестраивать изначальную последовательность композиций в альбоме. Собственно, сам Дейв говорил об этом много раз в разных интервью:
"But with music, I’ve always felt that there is something truly informing me of what is going on in my life — where I’m going, where I’ve been, what I’m not doing, what I am doing. It’s sort of living vicariously through song. And there is definitely a feeling quite often for me that I’ve already been there and done that. There’s an — identification. And singing these songs, the ones that ended up on the record — and, like I said, particularly in the order in which we sequenced the record —I feel like it plays out a whole kind of story" - Dave Gahan (31 октября 2021, Illinois Entertainer).
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Поочередное прослушивание песен альбома позволит немного лучше их понять, насколько, конечно, возможно. Есть вещи, которые останутся до конца неразгаданными. В этом своя правда и прелесть. Но тем не менее, это не означает, что от зорких глаз скрыты любопытные и замечательные детали или нюансы.
Один из мотивов этого поста - подчеркнуть важность альбома Imposter для того, чтобы немного заглянуть в уникальный мир Дейва, полный противоречий, чувств, гордыни, борьбы, тоски, и...конечно, любви. Безусловно, там будут песни о его семье и жене. Но я полагаю, что этот альбом определенное послание и для Мартина (как это было всегда в альбомах Дейва), помимо собственного самовыражения. Еще с их юности сложилось, что Мартин стал для Дейва своего рода эмоциональным центром. Помнится, как в 2001 г. на одном концерте во время соло Мартина на Enjoy The Silence, стоя спина к спине, Дейв быстро и страстно проговорил (но можно было разобрать): "I breathe you". Это было сказано не ради потехи публики, как у нас сейчас любят ради пиара использовать любые средства.
Так что в Imposter очень много интересных деталей и сюжетов. Я полагаю, что этот альбом Дейва соединяет в себе ретроспективу и его чувства того времени. Так что эта пластинка пронизывает многолетнюю историю Дейва. Он говорил, что этот альбом довольно личный, про себя, про отношения. Кстати, одна из причин, почему я считаю, что Дейв пытался через альбом что-то донести до Мартина, то это определенный ряд песен, и безусловно, это присутствие и Elvis Presley на этой пластинке. И на мой взгляд, кавер-версия «Always on My Mind» (это отсылка к исполнению этой версии Элвисом) непросто так завершает всю эту музыкальную историю Дейва. И звучит собственная интерпретация этой песни в исполнении уже Дейва. И Дейв очень искренен. Но на самом деле я хотела сделать отдельный пост именно об этой кавере Дейва и том, что значит Элвис для Мартина Гора. Это их общий музыкальный фундамент.
Я не уверена, что кто-то дошел до этой части, но мне надо было разъяснить свой тезис, чтобы донести мои мысли. Но, собственно, этот пост я хотела посвятить кавер-версии James Carr "The Dark End Of The Street". Думаю, что Дейв не специально ее исполнил из-за Мартина. Это случайное-неслучайное совпадение. Не случайное оно потому, что отражает их отношения. Сама по себе эта песня очень красивая, романтичная, о тайне. Она созвучна и близка по духу и Мартину, и Дейву, в том числе и их поведению. Если Вы послушаете эту песню и взгляните на их взаимодействие сквозь года, Вы почувствуете, как это правдиво.
Давайте обратим внимание на одну анкету (я не помню точный год этой публикации, наверное времена SOFAD, когда-то скачивала это фото с ответами Мартина с сайта Pinterest). Сейчас нас интересует позиция favourite song и ответ на нее: "The Dark End Of The Street" by James Carr.
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Вернемся в 2021 год!
Dave says the following after Lori informs him that Martin Gore and former tour manager Michael Pagnotta would play James Carr's "The Dark End Of The Street" every night in Martin's hotel room after a concert:
"Funny enough, I didn't know it was one of Martin's favorite songs too. It was just, that was totally coincidental. He told me that after I sent him a copy of The Imposter, about a year ago, when we had finished. I made a copy of of our mixed album and I sent it to Martin and he liked it really a lot, and he said to me, "Did you know that Dark End of Street was one of my favourite songs?" And I said, no, I had no clue. I never went back to his particular room with Michael [Pagnotta] that night. I remember the tour and of course, Dark End of the Street, in that particular muscle shows kind feel and version. You know, that's what we were trying to achieve with Songs of Faith and Devotion. We were, you know, we were trying to make a record that felt like performances and had blues and gospel influences to it. And so for me Dark End of the Street would have to be the opener for this particular record. Because it feels to me like it's the it's the opener in a in a show as well. It's like, that's the song I would like. And if we get to do some performances which I think's gonna happen of Impostor for sure, we will be performing the record as it plays out. As you hear it right now that's what will be The Imposter. It'll be in order." - Dave Gahan (Sirius XM, 10.07.2021)
Также можно послушать аудиоверсию:
В ноябре 2021 года Q1043 New York выложил интервью с Дейвом о его новом альбоме Imposter. Очень интересное интервью! Видео хорошо и тем, что можно рассмотреть мимику Дейва. Там есть замечательный фрагмент, где Дейв отвечает на вопрос ведущего о том, что думает о его новой пластинке Мартин и Энди. Здесь уже сам Дейв рассказывает об еще одном странном музыкальном совпадении насчет "The Dark End Of The Street". Наверное, для него это было важно, так как это совпадение было вновь напоминанием об их духовной взаимосвязи и общности, несмотря на их различия, полярность и разногласия. Забавен его комментарий, что в одной комнате они не слушали эту песню. Интересно, а какие песни они слушали вместе? Но это останется за кадром. :)
Host: Did you sent this album to Martin and Andy?
Dave Gahan: I did. In fact, I heard back from Martin a good while ago, actually, it was about a year ago when I first sent it to him. He put out a solo record called the Third Chimpanzee, which I liked, and I sent him Imposter and he came back to me with a lot of compliments. One of his comments was that he didn't know that I was such a big fan of The Dark End of the Street by James Carr. It was, in fact, one of his favourite songs, too, which I did not know. I've been listening to this song probably as long as Martin has, and there was never a situation between the two of us where we where in a room together listening to that song, which, to me, is mind-blowing. It was one of those weird musical coincidences where it happened to be one of Martin's favourites.
Спасибо большое @aufdem-dach за помощь в расшифровке текста! 😘
Как раз об этом совпадении я и хотела рассказать в этом посте! На самом деле это лишь некоторые зарисовки. Но я думаю, что эта предыстория позволит переосмыслить этот альбом или какие-то иные моменты, связанные с Depeche Mode. И обратим внимание и на то, что именно эта песня "The Dark End Of The Street" открывает и альбом, и выступления Дейва в рамках небольшого тура в поддержку Imposter. Именно с нее начинается эта невероятная история длиною в жизнь.
Oh, but our love keeps coming on strong
Steal away to the dark end of the street
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And when the daylight hour rolls around
And by chance we're both downtown
If we should meet, just walk on by
Oh darling, please don't cry
Tonight we'll meet at the dark end of the street
You and me
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groovetrill · 2 years ago
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At the dark end of the street
That's where we always meet
Hiding in shadows where we don't belong
Living in darkness to hide our wrongs
You and me at the dark end of the street
You and me
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allmusic · 1 year ago
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AllMusic Staff Pick: James Carr The Complete Goldwax Singles
James Carr's partisans say he was the world's greatest soul singer, and if that's a slight exaggeration, if he hadn't been sidelined by psychological problems he could have been one of the biggest R&B stars of his era. This collection from his most fruitful period includes his twin masterpieces, "The Dark End of the Street" and "Pouring Water on a Drowning Man," and no one who loves Southern soul should be without them.
-Mark Deming
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soundgrammar · 1 year ago
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American R&B and soul singer James Carr (June 13, 1942 - January 7, 2001)
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aa-wtf-bich-plz · 4 months ago
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James Carr /// A Man Needs A Woman /// 1968
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recursive360 · 6 months ago
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💬"𝙷𝚎𝚢 𝙱𝚞𝚋, 𝚢𝚊 𝚏𝚘𝚛𝚐𝚘𝚝 𝚜𝚘𝚖𝚎𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚐. . ."
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strazcenter · 10 months ago
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‘Fast Car’ and Country Music’s Long, Winding Road
Singer-songwriter Tracy Chapman became the first Black songwriter to win the Song of the Year award at November’s Country Music Association Awards. Luke Combs recorded a cover of Chapman’s 1988 hit, “Fast Car,” that reached No. 1 on Billboard’s Hot Country Songs chart. Chapman said she never expected to see her name on the country charts. Country artists have for years, though, found success…
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escapizum · 1 year ago
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bl33py · 1 year ago
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song of the day 168/365
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musickickztoo · 1 year ago
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James Carr  *June 13, 1942
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sarachidouinsbae · 3 months ago
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i think the reason i cant see amber and wilson together as a genuine couple is because wilson is so gay it feels artificial
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freakyalex990 · 4 months ago
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hello mr. alex, can you draw Wilson’s ex wives trash talking him?
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My back and head hurts...
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jenneferofjengaberg · 7 months ago
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NICHOLAS GALITZINE as George Villiers 👑 If there is we'll have to meet him. 👑
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thankstothe · 1 year ago
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Some notes on Wilson's marriages/divorces, and how he met House:
• House didn't just meet a freshly divorced Wilson. He met barely married Wilson, who just got notified about his #1 divorce by a lawyer, not his wife
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• Wilson walked around with papers on hand, long enough to give House a chance to sneak a peek. The same day he received the news. (there's a chance it was some sort of middle step in the divorce procedure, but "just served", checkmate your honor)
• House 100% knew that when he bailed him out. No, I don't have any concrete evidence besides "it's fucking House"
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• House had Wilson observed the entire time to know he didn't open the papers. The divorce lawyer prob gave him an idea of what it is, and he was just marinating in the suffering juice
• House had to be nosy and stealthy when he checked the package Wilson clung to, he saw what's written on it
• They didn't actually talk at the conference itself, so House did it silently too
• There was a law firm address on the papers, and you couldn't just google shit then. House's had to remember it to investigate it further, or he already knew of the firm (or it said "BLAH LAW FIRM BLAH HERE'S YOUR DIVORCE PAPERS, LOSER", which is possible)
• Wilson likely opened them in a hotel room (or he looked at the package sadly/angrily there too), needed a drink, and House was at the bar
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• House was watching Wilson at that conference, then at the bar, then meltdown over the song, then the whole fight and the mess, then the detention, and was like yeah I'll bail that
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• "First words you ever said to me." This is when they first talked, Wilson was in jail and the one in need
• Ok alright, hear me out, if House didn't know what the papers were at the time of bailing. There are 2 paths for him to find out
• Wilson STILL had them on hand in jail
• Or Housey saw them at Wilson's hotel room. Yeah
• It's been over the decade since they've met and they both vividly remember the details of that drunk night (I get why for storytelling purposes. Still... Much to think about)
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• That conference is either the last one, or one of the lasts, House attended. And that one was already boring to House without Wilson. 15 years prior to s06e06 "Known Unknowns", can't do the timeline magic I just eyeball it
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• House also introduced Wilson to Cuddy pretty soon, since she was a witness to the levels of despair he was apparently in
• House might've pestered Cuddy to hire him, or she chose to do so herself (whenever she was dean). Maybe House chased away some poor oncologist to make an opening. Even if House isn't as obsessed with Wilson at the start of season 1, he's always plotting
• There's the brother thing too. Wilson still fresh out of med school, still divorcing, still guilty af and looking for the brother in Princeton, so he was happy to work there
• Prior to that, Wilson was working 2 jobs to support himself and Sam and was ready to follow her to Baltimore
• The divorce and meeting House happened in 1991, the same year USSR completely fell apart. Just thought I'll throw that in #educational
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• Wilson was married, non-fraudulently, for 12 years total
• Marriage #1 has only lasted 1 year
• That means every marriage House was present for has lasted longer #math
• Wilson found a way to get fulfilled while in the marriage
• Now he's got a needy bitch with infinite problems and who will slurp any poison he has to siphon
• I'd argue House is what made Wilson bearable at home
• At the same time, House is what kept Wilson away from home, ultimately contributing to the divorce
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• Wilson himself describes his marriages as crappy - he doesn't really need help destroying them. House still helps~✨
• Timeline gets wonky, but there couldn't have been much of a downtime between marriages, a couple of years max
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• "Fell in love at the wedding" - whatever the fuck that means for Wilson
• Either Wilson met Sam through that wedding, and she also aimed to work in medicine - how they've connected. Or they went there as a couple, both being med students? Got high on emotions and jumped into marriage
• Wilson speedruns relationships once he's in them, so it could've gone "hey that was a nice wedding, how about we have our own?"
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• He fucking sucks at proposals, his looks and general air of niceness carried him all 3 times, I will not be hearing any objections on the matter
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• When Wilson talks to Cameron about cheating. He says, "I have (cheated). I always told them"
• "Them"
• It's could've been every marriage (#1, #2 and #3). If boy managed to sneak in cheating in his 1-year lightning marriage #1, while he was studying + 2 jobs (now I don't doubt his time management skills, but it's still a hassle. On the other hand, all that stress couldn't have been helping)
• Or it could be #1 and #2, or #1 and #3. But #3 is pretty much a certainty (he flirts with nurses on screen, House is also there), and it's "them", so why would he randomly stop in the middle? Don't think so
• What's most likely is - #2 and #3. When arguing with Sam (#1) again she didn't mention or allude to the cheating, her problem was that Wilson didn't communicate ANY emotions to her, she even admitted to House she made the most mistakes in that marriage, let's say there's some truth in that
• Wilson either didn't tell Sam about cheating, she didn't have a problem with it, or he lied to Cameron
• OR he didn't cheat on Sam
• He started to cheat after the first divorce AND his marriages started to last longer, which is funnier too
• He could've started cheating prior to House entering the picture, but much more likely - after. Divorce and/or House are the cause
• Speaking of. Meeting House is very tightly linked to the #1 divorce. Every time Wilson would think back on it, he would have to think about all the turmoil and getting bailed by House. And vice versa - every time he'd think back on meeting House...
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• "I met someone who made me feel funny. And I didn't want to let that feeling go." Another Cameron talk. Ur honor, there's something on that wall
• btw, he is STILL married while meeting House, so if you hilson 1st-night-fuck truther, that meeting is his cheater origin story in a more practical sense. He then could've really meant all the marriages, but then he lied about telling Sam/Cameron, he might not count it since he's divorcing to tell Sam
• Ultimately, he's a huge liar, and I'm wasting my time. What I'm saying - nothing is really off the table with this guy in terms of hcs
• Aftermaths of #2 and #3 aren't really talked about like #1. It must've been really nuclear
• House says neither of them recovered from (#1) divorce to Wilson's face, Wilson doesn't contest that in any way. Even tho House didn't know Wilson before the divorce he usually right on the money with these things
• After the divorce #2 Wilson got 3 legged cat
• After failing to secure marriage #4 (#1 part 2) he got a diabetic cat
• Just like the thing he has with missing phone calls, after every divorce, consciously or not, he might expect a savior to bail him out
• After and during #3 he crashed at House's, then surfed hotels, then moved in with a dying patient, then Amber's, then House moved in with him (still Amber's)
• Maybe his wives kept taking properties in the divorce, and he just stopped getting them
• Man frankly didn't have a home for a while (HOMELESS BUT NOT HOUSELESS)
• Then Wilson finally commits and gets the place for himself and House, from Bonnie (#2)
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• Wilson adamantly remains on good terms with his ex-wives (but not random exes. One helps House with a prank, House kept tabs bc of course)
• But Wilson thinks they hate him. Did he ever pay attention to them?
• While spending all the time with House, then cheating, telling his wives about it, Wilson gave them more attention and emotions to delay the divorce
• He also learned how not to get attached in marriage, to not get destroyed by the divorce (excellent gambit if you expect your marriage to fail)
• He has a better support system now too. Can't believe House is your support system, fucking lmao and ouch. Cuddy is his only other friend we see, maybe Stacy at some point (he kept in touch with after the incident)
• All his other friends and family we hear next to nothing about, at best they're surface level
• In season 5 he's only visited by the coworkers/House's team + Cuddy <- all that is pretty much House's tolerance circle
• House is pathetic, but Wilson is something else entirely
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