#JORGE YOU'RE A FUCKING GENIUS

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So I just realised that in survive before polites died odysseus said:

"600 lives at stake, it's just one life to take"

Which like,,,he didn't take the one life which indirectly results in the death of 600 lives.

But THEN

Other people pointed out that in the climax of ruthlessness where poseidon drowns 11 out of 12 ships, the screams of the crew and the ensemble vocals of poseidon result in this:

"Ruthlessness is (CAPTAIN)"

Because odysseus, by trying to follow Polites's ideology of open arms, actually became more ruthless by letting them all die in the hands of a vengeful god. He is a monster.

"Mercy upon our (CAPTAIN)"

Only captain gets the mercy. 600 men died at sea, but only he survived. He was shown mercy.

[butterflyosa]

odysseus' part from no longer you is so hard to translate because jorge is a fucking GENIUS.

when i am translating songs i always try to keep the rhymes. sometimes you creat new ones and that's okay. i translate to portuguese, wich one is a language that have the talent of always makes the english phrases have the double of the size. adding this "secondary rhymes" is very common in brazilian music because of it.

but some of epic songs somehow has main rhymes, secondary rhymes and even third rhymes in one single verse. it makes it very hard to translate because is too much easy lost the rhythm of the song when it happens. also, in a musical when the storytelling is the most important point of the song makes it very hard of telling the story AND making this type of combo. so when you're translating a music like this you need to have too much care for not lost the story to keep the rhymes, but not lost the rhymes to keep the story clear. so add portuguese to it. sometimes you can do both things, but the phrases end up so long you just can't sing it in the same rhythm.

look at this

"suffered" makes an half rhyme with "sailed" if sang with the same tone. same to "sailed" and "toughest". "hells" makes an perfect rhyme with "tell us" and both of them also perfectly rhymes with "effort's" (i forgot to put in the picture btw)

also "through" and "toughest" don't rhyme but sounds good together. HOW THE FUCK SOMEONE CAN REPRODUCE THIS IN OTHER LANGUAGE. the man put SIX rhymes on two fucking lines. also it's a verse made to be sang fast. i have the whole song translated but i just can't do this one damn three lines

[biggestqiblifan]

WISDOM SAGA SPOILERS

Ok, I really enjoyed the Wisdom Saga, it was good, but in my opinion, not the best.

I just feel like, it could've been better and that more could've been done for it. Idk man, these are my thoughts, so yah,

I've always really liked Mr. Jalapenos' previous decisions, but there were a few things scattered thoughtout:

Now, I don't know if my ears are broken or not, but I didn't really feel much emotion from Mico, the voice actor of Telemachus in Legendary, it got better in We'll Be Fine, but I just didn't feel right.

In Love in Paradise, I felt like Calypso should've been more energetic like she was in the snippet. I mean, Calypso has been remote and has not seen anyone for 100 years! She's bound to be ecstatic. (that being said, WANGUI IS WONDERFUL!!! omfg)

Finally, the one I was most disappointed about; God Games.

I had been looking so forward for this one, (and I must say, Luke Holt, voice actor of Zeus, FUCKING ATE!! Jesus Christ man, god damn) especially the lines of Apollo and Hephaestus, but, that's literally all they got. One godsdammed line. Apollo said some stuff about him being sad that he wouldn't get to hear the songs of the sirens anymore. And all Athena did was say, "oh yeah, don't worry bro, they're all good." HE WASN'T EVEN THAT HARD TO CONVINCE!! What happened to the fact that Ody's crew killed your SACRED CATTLE (!?) YOUR FRIENDS!!! Even Polyphemus was more pissed.

I get that Jorge might've been trying to show that he didn't really care, but he should've at least mentioned a bit more. And if you're gonna have a song about Athena's genius then maybe show her using it more.

These next ones are purely personal. I think they were fine as they are. But, yeah, these are my little wishes.

HEPHAESTUS WAS FREAKING AWESOME!!! Man, I just wished he had more screentime.

And I felt that Hera's voice was a bit flowy and to me didn't really suit, but, meh, maybe Jorge liked her portrayal of the character more. Idk.

But yeah, my main feud was with the trashy hand Apollo had been dealt.

I think it would've been better off if the songs were grouped together separately, so that it would be better, so there was more time and so that everything sounded nicer and fairer overall. The song is already 5 minutes, pushing six, (not really, but hyperbole), it would've been better separate.

Again, these are my feuds, very disappointed, but overall THE MUSIC WAS FIRE!!!!! It was amazing as usual. I just wish these details were tweaked. I love the voice actors sm.

[leynaeithnea]

Wow your post is really so good and also really really perfect so I'll try to not really add much to it and just sit here in awe of you jaksjsnnsns

Eurylochus begging to be gaslighted aaah and being the voice of the crew and Ody not wanting to fight him and Ody always being smarter than all of their opponents and bargaining even with Gods to protect his men but not anymoree aaaakdkksnsnsnsnsn

Also I agree , the big ass sword does look awkward and out of place but it also looks really cool so I understand Jorge's choice a little bit lol

(btw you worded everything so well !!!! )

"Don't make me fight you"=I don't want your blood on my hands SOMEBODY SEDATE ME THE ANGST IS TOO MUCH

( I have nothing to say for a good while here bc I was just soaking up your pretty pretty words and got distracted and didn't take any notes lol)

Eury being suicidal "we're never gonna make it home alive " I AGREE SO MUCH bc he never says " nah man don't worry there will be no consequences these cows are chill" he says " meh, we're desperate with nowhere to go, might as well eat and get killed for it " like HE KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN BUT HE'S SO DEFEATED KAKSKSMNS

Ody's like "this is the home of the sun god DON'T FORGET HOW DANGEROUS THE GODS ARE" but EURY ISN'T LISTENING KAKSKS AAAAH

We need a therapy saga FR

RECONSIDER HURTS SO BAD

The pause before Ody says home being bc he is taking a breath 'cause his wounds hurt I LOVE YOUR BRAIN SO MUCH YOU'RE SO AKSKSKKSJSJNAN

"people die like this"= trusting you, EXCUSE ME MISS YOU DID NOT HAVE TO GO THAT HARD I was gonna interpret that as " we die from the constant dangers and the monsters and Gods while the hope of returning home gets fainter and fainter and I'm tired of it " BUT THEN YOU HAD TO GO AND MAKE IT "we are trusting YOU and still getting our ass handed to us by all these monsters while we were SO SURE YOU COULD PROTECT US CAPTAIN, WHERE'S YOUR GUILE NOW SIR??"

Never stopped to think about Ody saying"we pissed him off", oh gods they're still in this together no matter what mwksksksksk AAAH

The full speed ahead thing being so sad bc it's useless jsjskksjs my poor Greek idiots trying to outrun the literal sky kamsnsnsn

I really wanted to make this much much shorter I don't know what possessed me lol ( might have been your writing girl, I loved this one so much I might frame it just you wait )

( Uhm girl don't worry??? This was majestically written?? Also spelling and punctuation is temporary Epic the musical is forever )

I'll try to not really add much to it

Im glad you did not follow through with this ssisegijsegijesg 25. Thunder Bringer

Thunder, war cry like chanting, a storm is brewing

The ENTRANCE the entrance of a god, the one true divine, the king of the gods…..The thunder bringer

Zeus is so fucking SMUG its HOT

the pause before Zeus starts singing, he doesnt even directly address or acknowledge Ody or the crew

"Pride is a damsel in distress, hiding away where only I can undress her, try as she might not to confess, in the end its all the same once i apply all the pre-ssure" ZEUS ZEUS YOU MFUCKER ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SEXUALLY HARRASSIng PRIDE??? PRIDE??? REALLY??? ….yes yes you do and fuck thats the best musical characterization of Zeus imaginable, Jorge is such a fucking GENIUS I LOVE IT AT THe SAME TIME THIS??? PRIDE??? this pride is talking about Odysseus pride, his hubris, its talking about him trying to hide his pride, where only Zeus, the king of the gods can reveal Odysseus true nature "once he applies all the pressure"

The music is so good

"Thunder, bring her through the wringer, show her Im the judgement call the one who her kingdom fall Lightning, wield her, use and yield her, show her what she cant conceal for true nature will be revealed" THESE LYRICS "Thunder bring her" "Thunderbringer" "Lighting wield her" "lighting wielder" AAAAHHSUEHGSEUGse also yes, we continue to sexually harass Odysseus pride, because this a greek epic and this is Zeus, also "her kingdom" is Odysseus prides "kingdom" his hopes of making it home to Ithica with his crew? or the crews believe into Odysseus? mhhh

"Tell me Odysseus" ah yes he finally acknowledges Odysseus existance, also HE ACKLOWLEDGES HIS eXISTANCE Odysseus, king of ithica, the myth, the walking legend, even the gods know his name, for his whole crew to see (lets ignore poseidon for a second)

"If i were to make you choose, the lifes of your men and crew or your own" (just hypotethically of course..) "why do I think theyd loose?" because he has heard from Hades that he had a whole solo song in the underworld singing how he was the monster rawr rawr rawr sigjseigjse ahem, and maybe also because he made that choice back in troy when he choose to kill the infant…..odysseus will do anything he has to to get home…..

"Elighen me, King of ithica" smug mfucker i love it, taunting, maybe recalling what he said to polyphemus…just mabye….

"Since hunger was far to great, i wonder whod take the weight of the damned and suffer a gruesome fate" well i KNOW it wasnt you who killed the cattle, but youre their captain its on you to take responsibility for their actions and be the one to get punished so they can get home, they were desperate, theyre innocent, you know that, but someone has to pay…

back to the aweseome chorus "Thunder bringer, here to ring your ears until youre deaf with fear and spear you while your death is near" you must learn to fear and respect the gods. you will learn to fear us, your pride has no chance against me, im the king of the gods "Lighting wielder here to yield your time for you have passed your prime, sublime you for your act of crime" youre good days are behind you, youre old?? time to vaporize you

"Choose"….maybe the question wasnt so hypothetical after all "Choose?" ody….my boy, sounds so scared as he asks that

"Someone's gotta die today and you have got the final say" How dare he sing such beautiful vocals here, damnit Luke

"You, or your crew" CRUEL SO CRUEL

"Please dont make me do this, dont make me do this" THE CALLBACK TO HORSE AND THE INFANT ARG OUCH; HES IN SO MUCH PAIN

"When does a comet become a meteor? when does a candle become a blaze?" THE JUST A MAN CALL BACK OF THE CREW JOINING IN

"I can take the suffering from you" PENELOPE? where is she coming from???? how does that make sense???? is that a hallucination? is that Zeus trying to torture Ody a bit more??? need answers "When does a man become a monster? When does a ripple become a tidal wave? when does the reason become the blame? (let me take the suffering-) when does a man become a monster?" Now. this is the moment where Odysseus becomes truly a monster he willingly chooses HIMSELF over the remaining crew members. His reason (penelope) becomes the blame.

theres silence, and we only hear the thunder and rain

"Captain?" he knows what Ody will do, he had hopes for all of one second, its useless, Odysseus will always be their captain and their captain will choose his own life over that of his crew

"I have to go see her" yeah….

"but we'll die" just…resignation

"I know" Ody breaks, he needs more than one therapy saga, this man is haunted af …he points at his crew, Zeus is SMUG AF AGAIN and elevates into the sky as he gathers the lighting around his hands as the crew stares at odysseus in disbelieve picking up their weapons and going on to attack him, ody closes his eyes in defeat

the delivery of "true nature will be revealed", the grip IS SO GOOD ALSO YES ODYSSEUS TRUE NATURE HAS BEEN REVEALED THERE IS NO DENYING IT

lighting and thunder hits the ship before the men reach odysseus, they die and sink into the ocean, ody is badly wounded and sinking into the ocean, he reaches a hand out to the surface, towards penelope and telemachus, telemachus lullaby plays, his consciousness fades, there is no way he will get home now...right?

[madrone33]

UNDERWORLD SAGA LEZ GOOOOO

I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S HERE OMG AHHHHH

SCREAMING CRYING THROWING UP

Here is my reaction to the songs! Written last night, because australia is the superior timezone :D

WARNING: Extreme spoilers, because duh.

HOLY FUCK IT'S HERE!!!!

Oh god oh god ok calm down I'm shaking it's hard to type of fuck it's hAPPENING!! Ok. *breathe* Press play.

the boat sounds!

the electric guitar!

ooof that dark "good"

SCREAMS OF THE UNDERWORLD

INFANT BELL

HARMONIES!!

OMGF G IT'S POLITES NOOOO

I'm legit tearing up rn

Ody sounds so broken

WAIT NO NOT THE WAITING MOTIF

NOT THE MUM NO 😭

He sounds like a little kid again noooo

NO NOT THE DUET

NOOOOOO

I'M FUCKING CRYING

AGHHH

Oh god he's snapped now

Also this end part is from the vid where he explains how he made the music for it!

*breathe* Onto the next one. AHHH IT'S NO LONGER YOU I'M NOT READY

OOOH Mason sounds so good!!

"There is a world where I help you get home, but that's not a world I know..." Oh no not right after seeing his mum dead couse he took too long that line is so much worse now!!

Those high notes tho

"hells" ha

Oh fuuuuck

Oh Ody's PISSED

the stakes are rising while ody is spiiiiiralling

wait fuck PAST romance.

the ORGAN! THE CHORUS ARRRRHHHH

oh shit oh shit oh shit

DANGER MOTIF IN BOLD

Take a drink of water. Calm. Oh fuck it's Monster- Ok ok lets do this.

Whatever this sad guitar tune is, it must be some call back, right?

OH IT'S THESE LYRICS!! FROM GENIUS LYRICS!

Oh odysseus no you're ok 🥺

Nooo you're tyring your best doooon't

Oh the infant strings!!

The vicious disgust in his voice with the trojan horse plan omgggg

Ruthlessness ohhhhh fuuuck

not polites and the mum!! This hits so much harder now!!

oh change on the infant rap? It's gonna take a bit to get used to that lol

the "MONSTER" backing vocals seems kinda quiet?

PE-NE-LOPEEEE! TE-LE-MA-CHUSSS!

RUTHLESSNESS FUCK

FUCKING MIC DROP ON THEM ODYSSEUS FUCK YEAH

HOLY FUCK! HOLY FUCK! THAT WAS AMAZING! IT'S OVER NOW! SHIT! OMG I CAN'T! IMMA LISTEN AGAIN WTF THAT WAS AMAZING!!

ARHHHHH! SO GOOD! SO GOOD!

Thank you, Jorge, and everyone else involved in this masterpiece. Thank you so so much. I love it. It's amazing. Thank you. 💙