#Irredentism

[dougielombax]

Anytime I hear somebody calling it “the Ukraine” I feel like I’m going to EXPLODE!!!

I’m not even Ukrainian and that shit INFURIATES me!!!!!!!

It screams of passive irredentism!!!!

[quotesfrommyreading]

funny how the previous anon thinks that a resident of moscow represents all of russia somehow

Mongolia has more rights to russian territories than russia has to Ukrainian if we're talking history and shit

none of this matters now

That's exactly the problem (rather one of the problems) with irredentism. How far back do you go? Who gets to benefit, and who doesn't? Why does Russia have a claim to Ukraine, but Poland and Lithuania don't? If the Kyivan Rus' state still matters, shouldn't it be that Russia is part of Ukraine, not the other way around? Or we should just hand the whole thing over to the Swedes, or the Mongolians.

People are just people, and they live where they live. And countries are made up, but we need some way of organizing ourselves, and some countries "should" exist and others "shouldn't" (most fall into the second group), but all of them are just as made-up as the next (maybe with the exception of a nation that comprises precisely one island and nothing else).

We shouldn't be killing people to revive a historical empire or historical territory. What does it matter, if a piece of land your country owned over a hundred years ago, is no longer ruled by your government, when the people on it are living perfectly fine as is? Let's not start the next Hundred Years' War, or worse, god forbid, World War Three.

[mapsontheweb]

Bengal Irredentism.

by generic_maps

[isaacsapphire]

That is the problem with ethnic nationalist irredentism, isn't it? "Jews get out, you're not from here even if you were born here as were your parents, Palestinians get out, you're not from here even if you were born here as were your parents, etc"

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[eyebagsanonymous]

Was answering a question about irredentism and the only example I could think of was sunning rocks from warrior cats

[uboat53]

[sabakos]

idk but maybe if there's no information about some alleged historical event from the early modern period in any English language sources, it's because it isn't actually true

[eggtrolls]

someone posted a picture of a map and captioned it: The oldest Ptolemy map of Palestine is dated 150 AD. The large red letters in the center say in Greek: Παλαιστινης or Palaistinis.

Map in question:

What's accurate: all of it. This is a Byzantine Greek copy of Ptolemy's 4th Asia map from the Codex Vaticanus Urbinas Graecus 82, Constantinople c. 1300. It was probably assembled by Maximus Planudes.

it seems like this post is some kind of 'gotcha' to prove that Palestine as a name/entity has existed for thousands of years, which it has. This is beyond dispute. The name Palestine is (probably) derived from Peleset, who you might know as the Sea People, who were from the Aegean. after they had fun times (not fun times) with Ramesses III, they relocated to the southern coast of Canaan, intermarried with the Canaanites, and became known as the Philistines. The Assyrians called that regions 'Palas(h)tu' since 800 BC; the term Palestine as "Palestine" first appeared in Herodotus' Histories in the 5th century BC, and this usage continued with other Greek and Roman writers (Aristotle, Ovid, Pliny the Elder, etc.). the term Syria Palaestina (literally Palestinian Syria) was used to refer to the Roman province which was created in the 2nd century AD. this is the name we see in the map above. cool.

What's missing: the Roman province Syria Palaestina was created by incorporating the province of Judaea and surrounding areas after they were defeated by the Romans in the Bar Kokhba revolt in 135 AD (the end of the third Roman-Jewish Wars). to put a button on the issue, removing the name Judaea is commonly believed to have been a 'fuck you, we won' - as in, the name change from Judaea to Syria Palestina was done to "sever the connection of the Jews to their historical homeland".

furthermore: Judaea had been a Roman province since 6 AD and the name Judaea was a Latinized version of Judah, a kingdom founded in approximately 930 BC, that bordered the Philistine City States, as in Philistia, mentioned above. They were BOTH there. They were there concurrently with the Kingdom of Israel (Samaria). Look at this map! They are RIGHT next to each other at the SAME period in time, directly south of the kingdom of, guess who, Israel (also founded approximately 930 BC).

like damn. this is the most contentious topic on earth right now. try to provide some context to whatever historical stuff you post on this hellsite before a bunch of people (smart people! people I know and respect!) see it and share it without having a clue about the context because they aren't inclined to do any further digging and it fits with the narrative they most agree with.

[ordenza]

hold awn it’s donnarumma season again??

[mishkakagehishka]

I think i italian'd my feed a little too close to the sun girlies

[paranoir-antares]

i have nothing polite to say <3 death to fascism and all its ideological remnants <3

[dougielombax]

Yes there is a difference between decolonization and feral irredentism!

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[gemsofgreece]

No dispute at all my friend… One Ali Pasha isn’t enough to bring the false spring you dream of though…

Somewhere in Tzoumerka (Athamanian mountains), Epirus, Greece. Photo by giotisr on Instagram.

[txttletale]

new ideologies we've been testing internally for release in 2023:

ecostrasserism

anarcho-taylorism

islamic juche

carthaginian irredentism

cyberba'athism

astrology girl race science

cryptoliberalism

furry nationalism

fully automated luxury space catholicism

jungian psychocommunism

discord server syndicalism

ted kaczynksi thought

kennedy family neofeudalism

direct theocracy

whatever the fuck cybersmith believes

flat earth centrism

ohio independence

[pawberri]

People who justify imperialism or irredentism of world powers just because they are former or purported communist states unfollow me boooo booo authoritarianism sucks booo