#Iroh atla

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boy prince has to learn to do the dishes

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Young princes (Iroh and Ozai)

[random headcanons abt the og fire siblings] ➡️➡️

(English is not my first language, sorry)

In my head, there is atleast 15 year gap between Iroh and Ozai. So when Ozai was around 15, Iroh was in his early 30s, with a very successful military career.

Ozai is jealous and very insecure about his place in the family. He used to idolize iroh before he was consumed by envy. At this age, his feelings about iroh is a complicated mix of love, hate, jealousy and admiration. On the outside, he expresses all those emotions with anger.

Iroh on the other hand doesn’t give much thoughts about his teen brother. He does notice ozai’s weird behavior but he’s too occupied with his military career. He never had to work as hard as ozai for Azulon’s attention, but he’s good at being a soldier and somehow its easier to ignore the guilt if he just keeps pushing on, attack after attack. So Iroh is rarely home, but that doesn’t stop Azulon from comparing Ozai to him in every breath.

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has anyone done this before?

[theogbfg]

I like Iroh but not the way he treats Azula

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A drawing for my best friend's birthday. I didn't get enough sleep for a couple of nights, but it was worth it

[maxiemumdamage]

To me Azula is a tragic character specifically because while she was failed by everyone around her, it also would’ve been unreasonable to expect any of them to save her. Among those who wanted to help her, practically no one had the understanding or power to change her. They couldn’t get Azula to stop being cruel, in large part because they couldn’t change the circumstances that nurtured her worst traits.

Except Ozai obviously. Fuck him. He’s why Azula is like that to begin with. But the power and sway he has over her also made it borderline impossible for anyone else to make her change.

(MUCH more to say about this here:)

People tend to blame Ursa for Azula’s behavior first and foremost. And…yes, Ursa was pretty clearly closer with Zuko than Azula. But of course she was! Ursa’s son was constantly abused and degraded by his father — as per the comics, Ozai outright told Ursa he would do this for all of Zuko’s life in order to hurt his wife. Zuko needed Ursa’s support to have any sense of self-esteem and frankly, for his own safety.

Zuko needed his mother just to be safe and not be alone, while Azula needed her mother for moral education. Even if you don’t think Ursa’s priorities were the right ones…choosing her daughter over her son might not have been enough to change Azula anyway. It would’ve been devastating for Zuko without necessarily improving Azula in any meaningful way, because Ursa didn’t actually have the authority to meaningfully oppose her husband.

By the time it would’ve been evident that Azula had a super skewed moral compass as a result of being around Ozai so much…she still would’ve been like, eight years old max, for one thing. Little kids say and do a lot of fucked up shit, because they don’t understand morals or the world by and by large. For another, once it was obvious she was parroting horrible stuff from her father, Azula also would’ve had no respect for her mother. So what could Ursa do, by the time she realized she needed to do something?

We see in flashbacks that Ursa tried, even when her child didn’t respect her and she couldn’t enforce meaningful consequences for the bad behavior Ozai rewarded. Ursa scolded Azula for saying cruel things. She made Zuko spend time with his sister, rewarding Azula for any moments of kindness or cooperation (even when Azula was just faking it to get an opportunity to bully Zuko and Mai). She tried.

As for Ursa leaving…uh, if she hadn’t, Zuko would have died. He absolutely, 100% would have died if his mother hadn’t cut a deal with Ozai to put him on the throne in exchange for disappearing. She made Azulon and his ultimatum go away because that was necessary to protect Zuko.

Ursa did fail to morally guide her daughter. But to do otherwise would’ve been to neglect her son, then to sign Zuko’s death warrant. I’m not gonna pretend she didn’t choose one kid over the other — I just also think choosing to support the kid whom she knew her husband was mistreating wasn’t necessarily the wrong call.

And even if it was…choosing differently might not have done anything. Because Ursa could only offer affection, while Ozai wielded both the carrot and a stick. Azula would’ve likely still fawned to the more powerful abuser, still learned harmful behavior, and still internalized that her cruelty was not just necessary but acceptable. Rewarded, even.

There’s Iroh to mention as well. He admittedly had a lot more influence and ability to stand up to Ozai than Ursa did, but in fairness…that wasn’t his kid. He had his own son to worry about, and then he was grieving, and then…he chose Zuko too.

For the same reason as Ursa, I don’t quite blame him for it — Zuko needed help much more immediately. When Zuko was banished, Iroh did the right thing by going with. But I do think those in-between years in the palace were a time Iroh (still mourning, but still) had the chance to influence Azula a little. But…

…I’ve seen a post theorizing that Iroh dislikes his niece because she reminds him of who he used to be, and…I think that’s very likely. They’re the golden children of their fathers, the firebending prodigies, the conquerors of Ba Sing Se.

I also think it’s because he and Azula are so alike that he has no idea how to help her.

Iroh didn’t have a moral revelation about the Fire Nation’s conquest, not until it cost him his son’s life. His realization about war being wrong, subsequently becoming more worldly and gaining respect for other cultures, it happened only when the Fire Nation’s system stopped working for him personally. So he wouldn’t know how to make Azula see that system as wrong, to make her change for the better as he did. He can’t recreate his own reasons for changing.

Also, quite frankly — Iroh barely to not at all managed to turn Zuko off the Fire Nation’s propaganda. Zuko always had morals, sure, but he did not have any semblance of the idea that “war (of conquest) is wrong” or even “wow my father is abusive and terrible to me personally” after three years of travel with Iroh. Being an Earth Kingdom refugee and meeting the Gaang was when Zuko really changed. And I think Zuko (who got his face burned off at 13) would probably be a much easier egg to crack on the redemption front than Azula (for whom the cruel and abusive system has always worked, she’s fine with it as long as she’s the one on top).

I also am briefly going off topic here to say…I like the idea of Azula redemption. I agree that she is sometimes condemned too strongly, to harshly, given that she is just a teenage girl. But her youth doesn’t take away from her cruelty. She is someone who knowingly does wrong, because she sees it as a way to protect herself. A meaningful redemption arc for her has to acknowledge that, not just sweep it under the rug by claiming she always loved her victims.

Because yes, Azula’s loved ones who are of a similar age to her but have less power are in fact her victims. They love her, she loves them, but she does hurt them all the same. That also has to be acknowledged in the quest to redeem her.

Zuko and Mai and Ty Lee all flatly have no power over Azula — she has power over them, in fact, thanks to her status as Ozai’s favored child and just as a princess, respectively. Ursa and Iroh were adults who at least wouldn’t be hurt by trying to help Azula, but for her brother and friends? Changing her could be dangerous.

Zuko is nominally safer as the Crown Prince, but…he’s awful at politics and their infinitely more powerful Dad blatantly favors Azula. He can’t stand up to her. And the one time were shown that Ursa, trying to correct Azula’s cruelty, made her son play nice, feels cruel to Zuko. He gets hurt and humiliated for no reason but for his sister’s sake entertainment and (failed) moral education. It’s not his job to redeem his sister.

And then there’s Mai and Ty Lee, who may be nobles, but still can’t do anything to Princess Azula. In fact, even before Mai or Ty Lee have done anything, Azula is threatening their family and bodily safety, respectively, as a loyalty test. They cannot challenge Azula in any meaningful way without endangering their lives and safety. It’s not fair to expect them to fix her.

Who does that leave that Azula is even close to? The Gaang literally know nothing of her but “Zuko’s sister who keeps trying to kill us.” None of the Fire Nation Generals or Nobles will want her to change. Azulon rewarded her bad behavior almost as hard as Ozai. Lo and Li, maybe, but for all they’re the wise old ladies Azula takes advice from, Azula doesn’t actually interact with them very often.

Azula is a tragic character because, while she was a child who should have been redeemed and had better, it makes perfect sense she didn’t. No one could change her. No one could offer a sweeter carrot or bigger stick than Ozai. And by the time he was out of the picture, the story was over.

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Batman VS Everyone

If Batman gets prep time, so does everyone else

[deadlyangelofpurity]

I got Ohuhu markers so I'm still working on the colors and getting it right.

Also let's be real Ozai would die inside anytime Iroh holds him as an adult. Even if they got along you can't tell me he wouldn't get annoyed.

[somewhereincairparavel]

I like this tiny detail of Zuko's development throughout the series, in season 1, After Zuko didn't listen to iroh about the thunderstorm approaching, he very hesitantly apologises to him, taking a while to properly say sorry since he wasn't great at apologies and found it hard to make the first move.

But in season 3, he PROUDLY tells his dad that he wasnt going to hesitate in apologizing to iroh, even begging for his forgiveness if he had to.

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Leaves from the vine, falling so slow

Like fragile tiny shells, drifting in the foam

Little soldier boy, comes marching home

Braves soldier boy, comes marching Home

[akabanerio]

*Zuko getting crowned as firelord*

Ba Sing Se citizens: THAT’s LEE FROM THE TEA SHOP!!!

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Excuse to draw prisoner!ozai

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i was watching atla with the kids i babysit. they’re maybe about 7 and 4(?) so they don’t quite get all of it, but they like it a lot. ozai came on screen and i said “look, that’s zuko’s evil dad,” to the older one.

with zero hesitation, she informs me “no! zuko’s dad is the gray one. that one,” said while pointing at ozai, “is the bad guy!”

if that doesn’t say enough about zuko and irohs relationship then idk man

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Lieutenant Jee: So you're telling me Zuko is just a " little meow meow", did nothing wrong, just a "poor soaked kitten who just needs a warm towel and some love"??????

Iroh: Precisley, thank you 💖💖💖💖💖

[mfelewzi]

Ehi @ironinkpen , somebody had made some screenshots of your post about Uncle Jasmine Dragon! And here, some interesting comments by r/TheLastAirbender!

Ehi, @akiizayoi4869 and @stardust948 , some ideas for your stories! Especially if you will make some jokes about this Mad and Crazy level of Lucky!

If you want, obviously.

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