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#OTD in 1916 – Death of Thomas Michael “Tom” Kettle on the 71st day of the Battle of the Somme.
Tom Kettle was a journalist, barrister, writer, poet, soldier, economist and Home Rule politician. As a member of the Irish Parliamentary Party, he was Member of Parliament (MP) for East Tyrone from 1906 to 1910 at Westminster. He joined the Irish Volunteers in 1913, then on the outbreak of World War I in 1914 enlisted for service in an Irish regiment where in 1916 he met his death on the Western…
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#&039;The Gift of Love&039;#Barrister#Battle of the Somme#Dublin#History of Ireland#Ireland#Irish History#Irish Nationalist#Poet#St Stephen’s Green#Tom Kettle#Tom Kettle Memorial#Visionary#War Correspondent#Writer
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#WELL back to reading 19th century irish nationalist pamphlets to find stuff on this fellow#history#jory.txt
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pro tip though: asking tour interpreters at a historical museum about ghosts is, 9 times out of 10, a fantastic way to get them to dislike you
#I was once on a tour of a Civil War house museum and we were seeing where the house was used as a makeshift field hospital and you can still#see bloodstains on the floor—grisly stuff#And another guest asked the guide if there were any ghosts#And she went OFF at him#Kinda unprofessional ngl but I got it#My dad and I kinda locked eyes remembering the time at Kilmainham Gaol in Dublin#When my dad asked the guide about ghosts and the guide gave him a stern lecture about how#this place is about history and remembering the people who were held here and the political repression of Irish nationalists#Not sensationalist ghost tales#I have yet to meet a museum interpreter who likes this question#Museums
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Any other trans mascs who are white / mixed w white end up having their body hair change colour?? What the hell is this why am I turning ginger suddenly
#it used to be black like darker than black#now suddenly the red is breaking through like irish nationalists on easter 1917
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The untranslatable emotion of seeing people unironically share Yeats's poetry, as an irish person,
#Ah another love song about the woman he proposed to. ..11? Times. Was it 11 times?#Before proposing to her Daughter. The same year. Hmmm.yea. romantic.#Another poem abt Irish politics by the protofascist who was pushed down the stairs in a wizard duel?#Who wrote literal marching songs for the Irish fascist paramilitaries?#Him? His thoughts on politics?#The cottage core anticatholic nationalist whose wife had to channel a ghost to get him to him fuck good?#We're sharing his words?#None of.this is really my area of expertise but now REALLY#irish shit#Me Fein
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Had a Mean Girls moment yesterday. This one 50-something Glaswegian bloke was sitting across from me and asked if I was Mexican when this other 50s-something Glaswegian fella says “You can’t just ask if people are Mexican!”
#I am not Mexican#another guy said — not asked — I was Irish because of my face shape#💀#I was acquainted with them all btw this wasn’t just a weird stranger I’d never met before#and tbf he seemed embarrassed to ask#he DID say ‘close enough’ tho#crying#(the phrenology guy was also big on bringing back the white boys and was a vocal irish nationalist)#((fucking Incredible))
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I feel like people get the harry potter character’s social standings wrong/off
snape- below the poverty line poor. it’s canon that he grew up in the worst neighborhood in a poor industrial town. so much of his character stems from him growing up as a poor kid with an abusive father
lily- also not rich!! she’s from the same industrial town and lived close enough to snape that they were playing on the same old rusted playground. her family was better off than snape’s but not by much. I would imagine like lower middle class/working class. her dad was probably a factory worker and her mom was a secretary or teacher
petunia- same as lily (obv) and that’s why she’s such a middle class social striver. she’s so proud of the fact that she has a nice house in a nice suburb with her husband’s nice company car parked in front. she sends her kid to a nice private school (but not like eton bc she’s not that wealthy). she works her way up to like upper middle class. but that insecurity of growing up lower class is still there!!
james- he grew up rich and his family is socially influential/connected (it’s implied they’re like aristocrat adjacent bc they’re descended from the perevell’s and related to the gaunts)! but a trust fund kid!
sirius- rich, wizard aristocrat
lupin- I would imagine he grew up middle class(ish). he obv doesn’t have a trust fund or family money but his father was influential enough to be quoted about werewolf legislation. so he was probably like a mid level ministry employee? I’d argue he grew up with a level of money similar to the weasley’s
peter- honestly idk. probably just middle class. definitely not wealthy or aristocratic.
what’s wild is that tom riddle’s the only character who has both british and wizard aristocracy roots. his father’s family was obviously gentry/possibly titled (or at least an ancestor had a title). his mother’s family were direct descendants of slytherin.
#did the riddle family know princess di’s family?#a question to be asked#I just saw people saying lily was rich or they portray her as like upper middle class#petunia is such a classic insecure social striver who is so proud to be upper middle class#I always thought it was wild when ron would be like “I know my house isn’t much compared to the dursleys”#like harry was living in a cupboard under the stairs he was not living the life of the upper 1990s british middle class#y’all know vernon was a proud thatcher supporter and hated the irish nationalists#he also definitely went off on a bill clinton rant#harry potter
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Second time in a day I'm getting fucked up views on Irishness on my dash???
If you're tempted to believe the assertion that the discrimination against the Irish can be equated with the discrimination faced by Black people in the wake of the trans-Atlantic slave trade, I recommend this article:
Here's the abstract if you don't like clicking:
Much Victorian Irish studies has followed the Americanist Noel Ignatiev's famous claim that the Irish “became white” upon migration to the United States, whereas they had not been in the context of the United Kingdom. This article argues, in contrast, that an emphasis on the undeniable racialization of Irish poverty and politics can distract us from an important truth: nineteenth-century Irish people, in Britain and Ireland as well as in the United States, were broadly understood as white, and “Celticness” was not in any serious or widespread way treated as equivalent to Blackness, although that did not stop some nineteenth-century Irish advocates from drawing that misleading analogy. Drawing upon cultural and anthropological work of the mid-nineteenth century, from Robert Knox, Thomas Carlyle, and John Mitchel to Charles Kingsley, Matthew Arnold, and the caricaturists of Punch to Frederick Douglass, this article proposes that the implication that nineteenth-century Irishness was cognate to Blackness—or the Irish experience a version of the Black experience—represents the epistemological and ethical error that Frank B. Wilderson III has called “the ruse of analogy” that we must interrogate more critically lest we, in Wilderson's formulation, enact a “mystification, and often erasure, of Blackness's grammar of suffering.”
A quote from within the article that gives a succinct idea of things too:
None of this should obscure the fundamental point, which is that nineteenth-century caricaturists, in both prose and image, turned to racist stereotypes of Black and other nonwhite people in order to mock whites who—for whatever reason—came under critique. After all, the deprecatory rhetorical alignment of the Irish with nonwhite people was frequently rather scattershot: the Irish-born (but London-based) royal physician James Johnson, giving an account of his early 1840s “tour in Ireland,” describes Killarney guides as “an amusing race” who “swarm about the hotels like the Hindoos and Mahomedans on the beach at Madras,” Cashel as “a city of wig-wams inhabited by Titanians,” and the “Hibernian” as “like a Mahomedan Cadi.” He declares that “the murders of this county [Tipperary] would disgrace the most gloomy wilds of the most savage tribes that ever roamed in Asia, Africa, or America.” For all of Johnson's racialized rhetoric, this is not a serious attempt at racial taxonomy but rather the deployment, in the interest of evocative insult, of whatever racist stereotype of nonwhite persons comes to hand. As David Theo Goldberg states more generally, “The charged atypicality of the Irish or Jews in the European context . . . is comprehended and sustained only by identifying each respectively with and in terms of the conjunction of blackness, (European) femininity, and the lumpenproletariat.” That says far more about the largely unquestioned ideologies of anti-Black racism than about prejudice toward, for example, deliberately disparaged subsets of whites.
#basically he points out that knox is a crank and not representative of all victorian thinking#he interrogates the contradictions in victorian definitions of 'race'#and I can't believe i've had to wade through more entho-nationalist bollocks about the ~celts~ today#there's also a clear demonstration that the victorians thought of the irish as 'letting the side (of the aryan race) down'#in a distinct way from anyone non-white who was basically irredeemable and subhuman in their eyes#anyway the post i saw mentioned slavs too and i don't know the precise arguments wrt them but i would assume it's a similar situation#again not making this rebloggable!#i did not wade through the slime of victorian attitudes to race and ethnicity to have tumblr comprehend me with its reading skills#i just hope the mutual who posted the thing sees this and thinks twice about the rhetoric of that reblog#racism cw#you're not an eireaboo you're an ethno-nationalist
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our program is so not equipped to deal with this kind of US American white nationalist violence. Apparently they just dropped this man off at his home stay until the gardai came to escort him from the house. This left him alone with 2 women, and they also didn’t call for any medical attention for the guys who were attacked. One of the admin filed a report but since she wasn’t on site she’s third party and they can’t really do anything. There are no gardai in our town bc it’s so small and they said we might have to wait until Monday for one to come and collect statements. Meanwhile this guy has a rental car, is traveling up and down Connemara (as per his twitter), and last posted about being in a town that is a 10 minute drive away from where all of us are visiting tomorrow. And they told us not to post on social media about the incident lmao and not to look at his twitter or something like…actually I think I will monitor where this fucking nazi who has lots of seething hatred towards our program and individuals in our program is traveling lmao
#he’s like a far right Irish nationalist who hates immigrants people of color and lgbt people#is a freak towards women and self professed ‘gigachad’#and he honestly seems to fucking hate all Irish people who he views as Americanized and who don’t fit into his slender view of what i#Irishness is#even tho he’s from fucking Long Island NY#he also self identifies as a Norse Gael lmao..with runic tattoos
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'She Is Far From The Land' by Thomas Moore
Robert Emmet’s love affair with Sarah Curran inspired Thomas Moore to write ‘She Is Far From The Land’. ‘She is Far from the Land’ By Thomas Moore She is far from the land, where her young hero sleeps, And lovers are round her, sighing; But coldly she turns from their gaze, and weeps, For her heart in his grave is lying! She sings the wild song of her dear native plains, Every note which he lov’d…
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#Co. Antrim#Inspiration#Ireland#Irish History#Irish Nationalist#Irish writer#Love Affair#Photo credit: Chris Hill#Poet#Poetry#Robert Emmet#Sarah Curran#Thomas Moore#White Park Bay
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Ah yes the 2 things which distinguished ulster presbyterian politics in the 1700s. arguing and joining paramilitaries
#any presbyterian born after 1697 can't cook all they know is write pamphlets calling the members of the other meeting house damn'd heretics#start bourgeois armed nationalist paramilitary force eat hot chip and lie#reading#irish history#jory.txt
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*cackles*
(people googling "emigration" after seeing exit polls)
#first time?#but also oh god#I was complaining about ireland#but irish nationalists are at least mostly leftist#I am sorry for the amount of dutchposting that is going to happen here#image found by @thelongestway
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a big ol s/o to the northern Irish MPs who Weren’t terrible ppl today .
#Sinn Fein . what the hell r u doing#next year ino what party I’ll b weighting my vote in favour of instead#if u r Irish or British Palestinian and seeing what the nationalist party of our country has done today. I’m so sorry#the ppl that voted them in will certainly b angrier than I am at their silence . pls know it doesn’t reflect Irish nationalists’ view of u#Palestine and the wish for its freedom is honest 2 god Baked into nationalist culture here . i hav a feeling those 4 will b out of a job
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It’s incredible how everything I learn about Irish, Welsh and Manx history makes me wish the entirety of the parliament would collapse into a sinkhole and flood from the Thames with all those cunts in it and that Buckingham would collapse with that entire lineage of shit inside
yeah basically 👍
#i will say that while this is true and i will always back sinking parliament#i feel that nationalist histories of the constituent nations of the UK (or former constituent nations)#often underplay their own colonial role in the british empire#which doesn't undermine the horrors endured but it is another aspect of history that i wish we paid more attention to#that web of complicity#e.g. irish and welsh soldiers in the british imperial army#(and don't talk to me about 'they were all anglo-irish' bc it's not fucking true)#although the last time i talked about this on my blog someone got really mad at me for calling the irish in america colonisers#like yes im aware that they were fleeing the famine and had little other choice#i am not judging them#but the fact is that they then proceeded to live on stolen land#im not making a moral judgement i am just noting that there is a complicated history#“anon please ignore the rambling im doing in the tags here! it's not actually aimed at you”
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Oh shit they updated the Duolingo Irish course so that it’s more fully voiced 👀
#‘oh but it’s best to learn Irish by attending in person Irish lessons’ shut up I have social anxiety#like yeah I live in a very nationalist area of belfast- Irish lessons/meetups/whatever are probably not hard to find#but like- if I can learn this online I will#Irish was actually a language offered at my secondary school but I opted for Spanish instead bcuz I figured it’d be more useful#and yeah it is I don’t regret it but there’s a weird melancholy and disconnect from my identity I feel from not being able to speak Irish#oops this was a very long ramble about language learning#zippy speaks
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