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A couple of people have raised this question, which I've also touched on in the comments. The short version is that while CSAM was cited by Apple as the reason tumblr was initially kicked off the app store, it (reportedly) very quickly ceased to be the reason tumblr continued to be rejected. You can read an account of what went on here.
it's key to note that
1. banning porn outright was not tumblr's initial response to the thing that got the app kicked off the app store (the report of CSAM). That issue was addressed up front. The full porn ban was the final result of a long drawn out back and forth with Apple.
2. the material which Apple repeatedly pointed to as the reason tumblr could not be reinstated on the app store was not CSAM. it was the accessibility of 18+ material in general. This is why we saw so much surreal shit around that time like tumblr disabling the hashtags #girl #selfie and #heels as they tried to scrub the site. I don't think it's intellectually honest (of them, not you) to treat these two things as if they are intrinsically linked.
3. there was and is a very clear double standard imposed on tumblr that was not imposed on larger, more profitable social networks like reddit and twitter. this applies to both the presence of CSAM (which is a moderation issue, not a T&Cs issue) and ease of access to 18+ content.
To be crystal clear: CSAM exists on twitter, on reddit, on facebook, on instagram, on youtube, on deviantart, and on pretty much any platform where users can upload and share their own content. That's not because any of those sites tolerate it, it's because it is a fire that comes with running an online space that has to be fought perpetually by moderators. Whether explicit material for and by consenting adults is allowed on any given platform does not correlate with the prevalence of CSAM. It correlates with the extent and quality of content moderation. Compare the figures for Pornhub and Facebook here if you don't believe me.
tl;dr: even if combating CSAM was the motive for banning porn on tumblr, it would be an ineffective and inappropriate solution.
e: sorry I just want to further address some of the nuance in your question: you mention tumblr being unable or unwilling to 'differentiate' CSAM and consenting adult porn, and enacting the blanket ban as a last resort. I don't know exactly what conversations went on behind the scenes, you may be right. If so, it is still a corner staff were pushed into by Apple's conflation of the two types of material, and a bad and ineffective solution (which in turn should raise questions about why it was acceptable to Apple).
really bad analogy time: it's a bit like if reddit were removed from the app store because someone posted instructions on how to make a bomb, and after that post was taken down they were told they had to do more to ensure it didn't happen again so they kept scrubbing more and more types of instructions from the website until apple were satisfied. you can see how that's not in any way actually effective, and after a few rounds of increasingly draconian purges it would kind of make you wonder what apple have against e.g. soup recipes and DIY projects.
the way people on here talk about the porn ban makes me completely fucking insane honestly.
yes I would love a return to the old ways.
no that isn't something staff have control over, it's a systemic issue with puritanical groups intentionally strangling online infrastructure to make adult content impossible to platform.
no that doesn't mean the ban was value neutral and I will fucking kill you with my mind if you start going on about how 'it just meant all the annoying people left'
sex workers left, and so did the high spending customers who made tumblr a viable platform for a lot of other small creators
a lot of sex educators and queer outreach groups also left, and nobody seems to remember that they were a huge part of the landscape here
you have to take the eradication of sexual content from online spaces seriously as an issue that affects more than whether you personally can post catgirl balls on one specific platform
there is no 'good social media' in 2023 that will ever be equipped to solve this problem until the financial/cultural issue is addressed. decentralisation is your best bet. sorry.
#I'm not going to say a bunch more on this but I wanted to write up a response bc obviously I understand the valid concerns here#but it's really important to understand these two types of content do not exist on the same continuum
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Instagram BAN PornHub Account
Instagram Removes PornHub Account
There was lots of pressure on Instagram against PornHub official Instagram account, which leads to its removal from Instagram. Other social media accounts of Porn-hub are still active.
This ban on Pornhub came on effect from September 3, 2022 and now it shows not available on the Instagram search results.
The Instagram account of Pornhub had more than 13 million followers and some thousands of posts. After its removal various twitter accounts had shared screenshots showing message of removal of Porn-hub posts by Instagram.
The message reads that the Pornhub Instagram account had violated the Instagram community guidelines. It shows that many people had reported Porn-hub posts to Instagram which leads to its removal.
These anti Porn-hub movement have also asked other social media platforms to cut ties with Porn-hub.
A twitter user named Laila Mickelwait (Founder, #Traffickinghub movement) had shared many tweets regarding banning Porn-hub account. She posted,
“It has been 7 days since Pornhub Instagram account with 13 million followers and 6000+ posts was taken down. Instagram suspensions are usually no more than 48 hours. This looks like a shut down to me.”
Some of the other tweets she shared has the news about German government banned PornHub sites. She wrote,
“The German Government confirms they are shutting down MindGeek sites Pornhub, YouPorn and Mydirtyhobby for failure to protect children unless they implement reliable age verification. MindGeek’s widespread abuse of children is finally coming to an end.”
Read full article here.
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If the Main Reason why you log onto Tumblr is for Porn, then you don’t understand what made Tumblr special in the first place
Tumblr is not a Porn Site
It was never intended to be, so for the people that are saying stuff like “Tumblr never supported our sex work anyway” you’re 100% correct. Being allowed to post Pornography isn’t the same as being a source for it. Over the years Tumblr has been ran rampant with porn to the point that content creators that did other stuff that didn’t relate to porn slowly started to go to other platforms; Since their work was being overshadowed by the sheer volume of porn and they struggled to get any attention on their work.
You people are acting like Tumblr is attacking sex workers as if this was their main and only place to earn money for their work.
There are porn sites that are made to promote AND support sex workers. Hell PornHub will pay people for their sextapes and has multiple systems in place for them to make money off Ad revenue alongside having a tip system, content protection and other stuff
Anyone that was serious about their sex work would have been using sites like this instead of relying on Tumblr as a main source of revenue or promotion.
Tumblr is a trash place to try to promote anything! Constant spamming of bots and tags, No reliable Notification system or way for your followers to see you’re new posts out of the sea of reblogs. So to act like these new changes are going to serious kill anyone that is in the sex work is flat out outrageous.
Hell a majority of the popular porn that was on here wasn’t even from amateurs making videos on here. People were taking porn from porn sites and making blogs centered around it and would constantly flood their blogs with this content which would then, overshadow any amateur worker on here that made their own work; since they had no to even compete with the constant bombardment of daily new stuff that these blogs were taking and using.
People would steal other peoples videos and get popular of it without even crediting the original creator and would even go as far as to SELL these videos and make more money of it than the actual people in the damn video.
So Tumblr was never an ideal place for sex work to begin with, so throw that excuse out. Most people only used Tumblr to promote their private snapchat or onlyfans account which you can still do in a regular selfie or post. There are thousands of people on Instagram making hundreds and thousands of dollars doing the same thing and they don’t have one titty out on their page. Just tight clothing and skimpy outfits.
If you’re really upset that you can’t watch porn on here after Dec 17
At first it was funny seeing people joke about the porn being gone. But some of y’all are really upset and mad that you need to actually go to a porn sites to watch porn???
Some of y’all don’t even post nudes or create anything that could be considered sexual and y’all saying “ima delete my blog since tumblr is trying to silence me”
(Side Note: Just because your post got flagged doesn’t mean it will be deleted. They already said stuff like this would happen as they added in this new system. So mistakes like these are bound to happen and will most likely be fixed in a week or so and have no negative affect on your blog. Y’all really acting like Tumblr is out to silence your love for cats and landscapes 🙄)
Like i said before there are plenty of sites to watch porn on and if your favorite sex worker is serious about their job then you will see them on there. Which only makes things easier for both of you. But lets be honest, most of y’all just like the idea of seeing porn without having to actually look for it, like it’s some nasty secret. On Tumblr you couldn’t escape porn even if you searched things that were unrelated to it. Tumblr gave you guys the perfect cover up for it and you guys went overboard with it and here we are. People are so quick to compare this issue to other Tumblr problems but there was never a issue as big as people with dick profile pics dming you no matter who you were (kids or adults) and sending you nude pics; then Porn Bots popped up under everyone’s post no matter if you had the safety lock on or not.
You guys made hundreds of post saying how much you hate porn blogs getting tens of thousands of notes in agreement about it, You guys would put “no porn blogs allowed” in your description box or something similar in meaning.
And now when Tumblr puts a system in place to directly remove it, you guys try to back pedal and claim that it will kill sex workers, freedom of speech and sexuality based off opinions, assumptions and things that aren’t even in the policy change.
Some of y’all honestly suggested “Just add a age verification system” as a way to fix the porn issue.... That shit ain’t never worked since 2002! I got so use to lying on those things that i sometimes forget that i’m grown and that i don’t need to put “01/11/1975″
The only people that this severely hurts are
1a) People that steal porn from other sites to use on their blog to get followers, to then try sell promo slots
1b) People that are stealing other sex workers content and illegally selling them
2) Child Porn Blogs
THAT’S IT
And Honestly is that really a bad thing? Getting rid of people that were stealing other peoples stuff and making money off it and pedophiles.
The way tumblr was set up allowed blogs like these to thrive without any risk, outside of getting their blog deleted (just to make a new one) and it only continued the flood of porn which became the breeding grounds for Porn Bots
Tumblr is suppose to be a place to freely express all forms of art, ideas, and conversations. But because of the nonstop flood of porn, most people only know it for Porn and Emo kids. Which brings me back to my original statement
This isn’t a Porn Site
Porn became so over flooded on here that you didn’t even need to search to find it. All you had todo is take off the safe lock and search anything, even a city. There would be hundreds of porn pics and videos in every slot. And before you say “well just keep the safety lock on”
Any content that had cursing, fighting or even slight nudity got put behind there. So unless you were just on here for kpop, aesthetics and Steven Universe you weren’t really seeing anything different with that lock on.
( Another Side Note: For you people trying to compare the porn flood to white supremacy blogs need to stop it. All the time i’ve been on here i have never NEEEVVVEEER accidentally came across any pro white supremacy post or blog unless it was someone exposing them and their stupidity which would then cause them to delete their blog. If you are constantly seeing anything Pro Nazi, Pro White Supremacy, Pro homophobia or anything similar that supports bigotry; then you are actively searching for it and follow these people. These blogs don’t even make up 5% of the content seen on here with or without the lock. So trying to say that Tumblr supports these blogs since they’re still around is Mr. Fantastic level of reaching. These blogs have never been a serious issue to the point that Nazi Bots were created saying “Hate jews and blacks clck here for more ;)”. So stop this weak comparison.)
I created a Tumblr and made it one of my main platforms to create content on because of the communities and people i found on here.
I found Great stories and Dope artist on here. I found people being able to fully express themselves and find an audience for them that helped share their work through a simple reblog. But if you’ve been noticing or have been on here long enough, most content creators don’t use Tumblr as their main platform to create or promote their content anymore. And why would they?
People barely activate their notifications for blog updates, It’s hella hard to find an audience through the constant reblogging of already popular stuff From Vine and Twitter, people rarely go outside of tumblr to support peoples stores or websites. Hell most artist on here that become popular on here that get continued support are the ones that have made or continue to make some kind of pornography of real or fictional characters. It’s hella rare to find any artist that hasn’t made any porn, that is equally popular or supported like the ones that have; which just goes back to people thinking Tumblr is for porn.
Tumblr isn’t even against the idea of expressing yourself or art through nudity as their post and policy change explicitly explained. And people’s content that’s getting flagged that doesn’t go against that policy is a problem THAT THEY SAID WOULD HAPPEN as they get everything in order with their new system
All of these long post that people are writing about it that and they themselves forgot to do some basic reading on the topic.
Tumblr Staff- “Certain types of artistic, educational, newsworthy, or political content featuring nudity are fine. Don’t upload any content, including images, videos, GIFs, or illustrations, that depicts sex acts.
This isn’t an attack on people’s ability to speak out or embrace themselves. They are directly trying to remove Porn which they won’t be able to fully do, even Instagram and Twitter can’t do that; no public site with millions of people can. But they’re at least trying to get rid of the constant overflow of it.
It’s so sad to see hundreds and thousands of you saying “i only used Tumblr for porn” because that just shows how derailed this site has become and why Tumblr had to make these extreme decisions especially after being removed from app stores because of the child pornography.
If you’re going to leave because you can’t make porn on here: I can see why you would do that but there is no reason to. You can still use your blog to promote your stuff and make teases of your work that can be found or bought else where. Tumblr was never a reliable place for sex work and i highly recommend using Sites that will actually protect your work and put some money in your pockets while doing it
If you’re leaving because you can’t watch porn on here: You probably weren’t supporting anyone really and only made the influx of porn worse, making it harder for other content users to be seen. If you were supporting actual sex workers on here then continue to do so, I’m sure anyone serious would have more than just tumblr as their main platform.
For those that got popular and made money off other people sex work: So long and farewell
For the Child Porn Blogs: Hope you get mental help or burn. Either or is fine with me
For the people that may get upset by this: Correct me, Prove me wrong, Let’s have a whole serious discussion about this and hear each others side with no fighting or disrespect :D
For all of Us: Lets actually support and help the people that really make Tumblr the gem that it is. Lets make this platform be known for creative people and unique ideas; and communities that actually comfort and understand us. Let’s actually make this platform something that’s known for more than just Porn and Emo Kids.
Regardless i hope that everyone can calm down and act like there’s more here than just porn..
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Have you heard about Tumblr's new policy about adult content? What will you do? :( You are one of my favourite blogs.
Thank you! 💕
Yeah, I’ve heard. I won’t remove my blog, since I might want to post SFW here at some point.
I’m going to be more active on my twitter. I share the same kind of stuff there as I do here: hentai/ecchi and pictures of me. You can find my twitter here: twitter.com/vickivalkyrie
PornHub is also a place I’ll be exploring. My account there is really new, and I haven’t had the time to set it up properly, but now I definitely will!
PornHub is a safe platform for adult content, and you can post both videos and pictures. I will be posting some longer trailer for my videos there, some teaser clips, etc. It’s worth a follow for those who like my porn: pornhub.com/users/vickivalkyrie
I also have:
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Facebook: facebook.com/vickiangelvalkyrie
And my website: vickivalkyrie.com!
Now, here’s Satan’s work before it gets purged by the tumblr God:
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PSA: Chill Out, Tumblr Isn’t Changing Much
Did any of you read the staff’s post on the new policy? They said that art women and male genitals on display was okay. They said pictures of trans peoples’ surgeries were okay. They said smut writing was okay. However, child porn, porn bots, and random sexual people were not. The reason behind this is because some people were getting deleted for interacting with the porn bots (mostly messaging them or being followed by them or having their posts reblogged by them), child pornography was being distributed on here, pedophiles were messaging minors, and more minors were joining Tumblr.
Before you guys flood into my comments going “BuTJaMeS, mInOrS sHoUlDnT bE oN hErE1!1!” let me say that ALL social media sites have minors. Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter, etc. All of them, for the most part, have banned sexual content that isn’t art or writing because of it.
Tumblr IS NOT ruined. You’re all over-reacting because you think your blog(s) are going to be shut down and Tumblr was removed from the Apple Appstore.
The reason it was removed from the Appstore was because of the child pornography. No business wants that (at least I hope none do).
I’m sure Tumblr will be the same as it was before, just with less adult content. This site isn’t PornHub. If you joined this site for porn only, I advise you to go to Reddit, because that is mostly not as different from tumblr and is mostly filled with adults.
If you think Tumblr just now gained a whole bunch of minors, think again. There have been minors on here for years. For instance, I’ve been on here since around 2014 and I’ve never met anyone on here that hasn’t ever seen or spoken to a minor on this site. Due to all of the communities on here (Fandoms, Bandoms, Furry, LGBT, etc.) minors have found it easier to make friends and express themselves on here than on Twitter or Facebook.
Sure, most minors are on Snapchat, but that’s because the filters and the style attract the minors, much like this site. This site is a minor magnet. You can customize your blog to be cool, you can make friends, you’ll never run out of content; You know, stuff like that.
Now, regarding some communities that the tags have disappeared in. The only reason those communities have their tags missing and not showing up is because they’ve been labeled as sexual. For example, CGL (Caregiver Little) is labeled as pedophilic because people are seeing the sexual side and not the people that do it to cope with PTSD (like me). I’m sure the new staff will attepmt to fix all of the misunderstandings soon.
Now, taking all this into account: PLEASE DO NOT @ THE STAFF AND COMPLAIN AND TRY TO START A TUMBLR MOVEMENT. The staff won’t do anything. All that will do is fill everyone’s feed with unnecessary panic. The panic will die down. At this point, the changes are being portrayed as a meme.
If your communities tag(s) stop showing up, notify people in the community and try to rename the tag by a poll, vote, or whatever.
If I got any of my information wrong, please message me and politely tell me what I got wrong and what the info should be.
Thank u, next
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* he was removed from pornhub 🤭
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Instagram permanently disabled Pornhub’s account
Instagram permanently disabled Pornhub’s account
After a weeks-long suspension, Pornhub’s account has been permanently removed from Instagram. Instagram told TechCrunch that Pornhub has repeatedly violated community guidelines, prompting the account’s removal. Meanwhile, Pornhub declared in an open letter to Meta and Instagram that Instagram’s enforcement of these platform rules are “opaque, discriminatory and hypocritical.” Addressed to four…
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LOS ANGELES — New York Times opinion writer Nicholas Kristof today published a sensationalistic call for state censorship and financial strangulation of adult tube site Pornhub, packaged around gut-punching testimonials from young victims of sexual exploitation.
What makes this particularly callous is that Kristof actually had the reporting to write a nuanced piece about the substantial problems with content moderation that plague all platforms that depend on third-party content, including YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, XVideos and — yes — Pornhub.
But that's not what Kristof and the editors of the New York Times chose to do, instead turning the piece into a manipulative attempt to insert themselves in the complex debates around Section 230 — the so-called First Amendment of the internet — free speech online and sexual expression among consenting adults, including pornography.
Everything about "The Children of Pornhub" is exploitative, from the testimonials, to the absolutely misguided photo essay taking advantage of a homeless teen to "make a point" and affect policy.
As of this writing, Kristof continues to tweet the victim's photo at public officials in the U.S. and Canada to manipulate them into "doing something" to Pornhub.
What Nicholas Kristof Got Right
These are some facts about Pornhub and the adult industry embedded in Kristof’s opinion piece:
Pornhub is very popular with all kinds of people. According to numbers cited by Kristof (who does not cite his sources) “it attracts 3.5 billion visits a month, more than Netflix, Yahoo or Amazon” and “one ranking lists Pornhub as the 10th-most-visited website in the world”
Pornhub is also a very successful business. Kristof notes (again without providing sources) that it derives income from “three billion ad impressions a day”
Pornhub, Kristof writes, “is owned by Mindgeek, a private pornography conglomerate with more than 100 websites, production companies and brands. Its sites include Redtube, Youporn, XTube, SpankWire, ExtremeTube, Men.com, My Dirty Hobby, Thumbzilla, PornMD, Brazzers and GayTube. There are other major players in porn outside the Mindgeek umbrella, most notably XHamster and XVideos, but Mindgeek is a porn titan”
Pornhub “is like YouTube in that it allows members of the public to post their own videos. A great majority of the 6.8 million new videos posted on the site each year probably involve consenting adults”
Pornhub’s very successful branding and marketing campaigns are built around removing the stigma from adult entertainment, bringing it out of “the darkness at the edge of town,” and deliberately aligning it with progressive and public welfare causes. In Kristof’s words, Pornhub “is the website that buys a billboard in Times Square and provides snow plows to clear Boston streets. It donates to organizations fighting for racial equality and offers steamy content free to get people through COVID-19 shutdowns”
Kristof admits the bold approach to branding and marketing worked. “Pornhub and Mindgeek also stand out because of their influence,” he writes. “One study this year by a digital marketing company concluded that Pornhub was the technology company with the third greatest-impact on society in the 21st century, after Facebook and Google but ahead of Microsoft, Apple and Amazon”
But Pornhub, while a big player in the adult tube site market, is not “a monopoly” or even the only company of its size in that space. “A rival of Pornhub, XVideos, which arguably has even fewer scruples, may attract more visitors,” Kristof notes (again without providing sources)
Pornhub shares complex issues about content moderation with any major user-content reliant company both in mainstream and adult. “Depictions of child abuse also appear on mainstream sites like Twitter, Reddit and Facebook,” Kristof writes. According to data he requested, “Facebook removed 12.4 million images related to child exploitation in a three-month period this year. Twitter closed 264,000 accounts in six months last year for engaging in sexual exploitation of children”
Issues of moderation and filtering are also prevalent in search engines and are part of complex SEO problem-solving. Google, Kristof writes, “returns 920 million videos on a search for ‘young porn’”
Pornhub “has doubled the number of moderators in the last couple of years, the moderator told me, and this year Pornhub began voluntarily reporting illegal material to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children”
When Kristof asked Pornhub for a comment about some of the claims he and others make in his article, the company stated that “Pornhub is unequivocally committed to combating child sexual abuse material, and has instituted a comprehensive, industry-leading trust and safety policy to identify and eradicate illegal material from our community”
Organizations like the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCOSE) track reports of child exploitation videos, which they can share with law enforcement and internet companies.
Pornhub has also worked with the “Internet Watch Foundation, an England-based nonprofit that combats child sexual abuse imagery.” The tube site company told Kristof through a statement that “eliminating illegal content is an ongoing battle for every modern content platform, and we are committed to remaining at the forefront"
A Salacious, Explotative Call for Censorship
Armed with that information, Kristof then proceeds to bury it within a salacious, deliberately exploitative manifesto that confusingly asks for sweeping international censorship and private liability against a single private company — he explicitly directs his demands to the entire nation of Canada, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and the American “Congress and successive presidents” — while claiming that “it should be possible to be sex-positive and Pornhub-negative.”
Kristof’s call for politicians and states to step in and “do something” (i.e., effect censorship legislation directed towards one company, but affecting all of free speech online) also includes a number of tendencious misrepresentations, sensationalizing language and outright nonsense:
Pornhub, Kristof writes “is infested with rape videos”
These “rape videos” (which he repeatedly redefines in a very expansive way to include controversial search terms and fictional taboo content shot by consenting adults) are, he claims over and over, somehow a central part of Pornhub’s business model. Kristof’s favorite, vague, go-to word to explain the complex issue of how ad-based platforms make money in 2020 is “monetizes”
According to Kristof, “child rapes, revenge pornography, spy cam videos of women showering, racist and misogynist content, and footage of women being asphyxiated in plastic bags” are all things Pornhub “monetizes.” It should be noted that the first three things Kristof mentions in his grab bag of “monetizeables” are recordings of illegal acts that should be (and usually are) reported to the authorities and to moderators, while “racist and misogynist content, and footage of women being asphyxiated in plastic bags,” if consensual, are protected by the First Amendment
Kristof claims that out of the 6.8 million new videos posted on Pornhub yearly, “many depict child abuse and nonconsensual violence.” The “many” is tendentious here given that Kristof does not provide any concrete data of what percentage it is, how it compares to other adult or mainstream tube sites where bad actors may upload criminal content, or why he is singling out Pornhub for what appears to be an internet-wide issue for any company hosting massive amounts of third-party content
One of several creepy searches Kristof has performed as “research” for his censorship manifesto, yielded “more than 100,000 videos,” of which he says, apparently by his own viewing and estimation “most aren’t of children being assaulted but too many are”
Kristof protests that “the issue is not pornography but rape” and accuses Pornhub of “promoting” “assaults on children or on anyone without consent,” before likening the tube site to “Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein”
Kristof in his “research” claims that he “came across many videos on Pornhub that were recordings of assaults on unconscious women and girls. The rapists would open the eyelids of the victims and touch their eyeballs to show that they were nonresponsive.” At no point in his article does Kristof clarify whether he reported theses videos to the authorities or the site’s moderators or if he followed up with the company’s response to such a report
Kristof repeatedly and almost universally refers to “women and girls” (presumably cis women) when reporting on the tube site’s content. There is only one mention of a pseudonymous male victim, which is near the end and almost in passing
Kristof repeatedly provides specific instructions and keywords on how to search for potentially criminal videos in the most graphic, exploitative terms, apparently inviting readers to replicate his “research.” Sample passage: “a video of a naked woman being tortured by a gang of men in China." It is monetizing video compilations with titles like ‘Screaming Teen,’ ‘Degraded Teen’ and ‘Extreme Choking.’ Look at a choking video and it may suggest also searching for ‘She Can’t Breathe’”
“If you know what to look for, it’s possible to find hundreds of apparent child sexual abuse videos on Pornhub in 30 minutes,” Kristof writes, again without giving any indication of what the process is to report the material to authorities and to the platform
Besides asking the governments of Canada and the U.S. to effect some form of state censorship, Kristof wants to make sure that Pornhub — and the multitude of sex workers who post their content there — cannot be part of the mainstream financial system and that its users are shadowbanned even further. “Call me a prude,” he writes, “but I don’t see why search engines, banks or credit card companies should bolster a company that monetizes sexual assaults on children or unconscious women. If PayPal can suspend cooperation with Pornhub, so can American Express, Mastercard and Visa”
Echoing Religiously Inspired Anti-Porn Crusades
Kristof’s call for state censorship and defunding of Pornhub is identical to the current crusade being conducted by a well-funded, religiously inspired organization variously called Exodus Cry and Trafficking Hub, a California-based offshoot of controversial Midwestern ministry International House of Prayer (IHoP).
In fact, Kristof mentions the organization’s main mouthpiece in his tirade. “An organization called Traffickinghub [sic] led by an activist named Laila Mickelwait, documents abuses and calls for the site to be shut down,” he writes.
Mickelwait, a single-minded zealot whose life mission is to get someone — anyone — to “shut down” Pornhub, looms large in the background of Kristof’s editorial, as does NCOSE (formerly known as Morality in Media), another well-funded, religiously inspired group which has been waging its own War on Porn since the 1960s.
NCOSE was responsible for the useless, wasteful copycat legislation passed in several Red State legislatures since 2016 attempting to define “porn as a public health crisis.” These performative bills attempted to divert resources from actual public health matters to “porn addiction” groups for training and other services. Since the actual COVID-19 public health crisis began, these efforts have become dormant, with funding by donors interested in the War on Porn being now repurposed for organizations like Exodus Cry and anti-Pornhub crusaders like Mickelwait.
Almost every piece of tendentious misinformation about Pornhub in Kristof’s piece, plus his attempt to influence mainstream financial services to stop doing business with the company, are straight from Mickelwait’s playbook, although Kristof does not disclose Exodus Cry’s very obvious influence on both his analysis and his proposed remedies.
By writing this deliberately manipulative piece, Kristof has essentially turned the New York Times into the Exodus Cry house organ, delivering its message to millions of readers, including influential politicians, judges, and opinion shapers.
Lawyers Are Circling
But it is not only moralists that stand to gain if Kristof’s arguments against Pornhub become mainstream. A few times in the piece he mentions another group of beneficiaries of this demonization campaign: lawyers salivating over a life-changing payday for themselves if Section 230 is kneecapped (as Trump, Biden and several Senators want) and platforms’ protections from liability for third-party content are lifted.
“Pornhub appears to be increasingly alarmed about civil or criminal liability,” Kristof gloats. “Lawyers are circling, and nine women sued the company in federal court after spy cam videos surfaced on Pornhub. The videos were shot in a locker room at Limestone College in South Carolina and showed women showering and changing clothes.”
Kristof, like other establishment Democrats like top Biden’s advisor Bruce Reed, wants to destroy Section 230 immunity for platforms in the name of “saving the children.” And like presumptive Vice President-elect Kamala Harris, Kristof is a huge fan of SESTA-FOSTA, the Section 230-weakening legislation conceived by right-wing religious politicians and embraced by liberal Democrats in the name of “fighting human trafficking.”
SESTA-FOSTA makes a blink-and-you-miss-it appearance in Kristof’s piece, but he avoids using its now-infamous name.
“Executives of Pornhub appear in the past to have assumed that they enjoyed immunity under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, which protects internet platforms on which members of the public post content,” Kristof writes. “But in 2018 Congress limited Section 230 so that it may not be enough to shield the company, leading Mindgeek to behave better.”
“Limited Section 230” is Kristof’s euphemism for the devastation that SESTA-FOSTA brought to the lives of countless sex workers, who were never consulted about it, and for the irreparable harm it did to online Free Speech, as activists have pointed out.
This afternoon, Kristof tweeted: "Vice President-elect Kamala Harris, you have plenty on your plate. But in California, you were a leader in fighting human trafficking, and I hope that as VP you'll be a leader in tackling the surging exploitation of children on sites like Pornhub."
Also looming in the background of Kristof’s piece is the current bipartisan attempt to, in the words of Trump’s Twitterspeak, “REPEAL SECTION 230.” And, as he correctly points out as he cheers for vultures, lawyers are indeed “circling” to shake down Pornhub and other platforms.
One of the testimonials Kristof offers concerns a 19-year-old who questions Pornhub’s ability to keep track of people re-uploading videos depicting her as a minor, and has retained a lawyer. “They’re getting so much money from our trauma,” the victim told Kristof.
It's Not About Porn, It's About Content Moderation
If Kristof hadn’t quaffed the Exodus Cry kool-aid, he might have realized that a more responsible framing of the issues he brings up is the following: “It’s not about pornography, it’s about content moderation.” Section 230 was a 1996 compromise inserted by some far-seeing legislators into what was essentially a censorship bill, the Communications Decency Act, because of a vexing issue known as “the Moderator’s Dilemma.”
Before Section 230 was passed, the Moderator’s Dilemma — when applied to an unmanageable amount of data and content — trapped present and future platforms, such as Big Tech names Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Pornhub, XVideos and others, in a limbo between not moderating at all (and allowing all kinds of criminal and harmful content to be posted) and moderating imperfectly (and thus opening themselves to liability).
Section 230 is known as “the First Amendment of the internet” because it allowed — even encouraged — platforms to moderate themselves, in exchange for removing liability if the moderation was imperfect, as it was (and is) bound to be given the volume of information shared.
The issues Kristof brings up in his piece are constantly debated by legal scholars, politicians, business owners and commentators. But Kristof seems unaware of this voluminous, ongoing conversation. (You can tell he does his research on Wikipedia because he — with the apparent approval of the New York Times' fact-checkers — refers to “Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act.” There is no such thing. The CDA inserted Section 230 as a new numbered section in the 1934 Telecommunications Act, which it was meant to reform. And most of the CDA was later struck down as unconstitutional, precisely because of the free speech issues that Kristof gleefully ignores while asking that “something be done” about Pornhub, “for the children.”)
The NYT Exploiting At-Risk Teens
So what does Nicholas Kristof and his editors offer to back his half-baked contributions to the debates about Section 230, SESTA-FOSTA and content moderation?
The answer is as old as any call for censorship: emotional pornography.
Kristof weaves his “someone do something” outrage around 14 cases of individual victims who say they found criminal acts against them uploaded to the platform.
In a choice many would find revolting, the New York Times article “personalized” a complex tech and free speech issue by the inarguable power of gut-punching personal testimony.
This is a go-to for Kristof. Readers of his opinion pieces know that he has never found a victim of a sexual crime that he cannot “humanize” by going through their ordeal in exploitative detail.
But in this case he goes even further by finding a 19-year-old homeless woman from the Bay Area who, by his own account, is clearly in a precarious position in her life, both economically and emotionally, and identifies her by name and displays her image on a medium — the so-called "paper of record" — which will long outlive any adult tube site.
The story he retells concerns videos that the victim made for an older boy when she was 14.
“That’s when I started getting strange looks in school,” she told Kristof, who says the boy “shared the videos with other boys, and someone posted them on Pornhub.”
In Kristof’s telling, “[her] world imploded” through slut-shaming in school. “People were texting me, if I didn’t send them a video, they were going to send them to my mom,” she told him.
Although the videos were removed from Pornhub when her mother reported them, Kristof says they were re-uploaded online “to Pornhub and other websites.”
Kristof then somehow ties the teen’s suicide attempt, addiction to meth and opioids, dropping out of school and her current homelessness to the video — and to Pornhub.
After a period of underage sex work, Kristof reports the teen is “off drugs for a year but unemployed and traumatized, is living in her car in Bakersfield, along with three dogs that have proved more loyal and loving than the human species. She dreams of becoming a vet technician but isn’t sure how to get there.”
The article is illustrated with a questionable photo essay led by an image of the at-risk 19-year-old in a skintight shirt. The New York Times photo editors and Kristof are essentially deploying the same “barely legal” approach that the article appears to condemn. It’s one of the most blatant forms of 'pornsplotiation': the headline of Kristof’s piece is, for maximum effect, “The Children of Pornhub.”
More testimonials weave in-and-out of the piece, but it’s clear that Kristof does not care about each individual story as much as he cares about illustrating his — and Exodus Cry’s — monumental talking point: someone, somewhere should “do something” about Pornhub.
Each story is essentially the same tragic story: someone’s innocence was violated and recorded, the video was shared online (Kristof rarely specifies if the videos were also shared on YouTube, Facebook or any other large platform), and Pornhub has “monetized” and “profited” from it, allegedly as part of their “business model.”
You might miss it in passing, but several of the stories show that Pornhub’s reporting system actually worked, although the company admittedly has an issue with embedding signatures on videos to prevent re-uploads.
'Somebody' Must Do 'Something'
“So what’s the solution?” Kristof asks, immediately after sensationally ending the previous section with the murder of a victim.
First, Kristof says his campaign is not to shut down Pornhub, or online porn.
“Columnists are supposed to offer answers, but I struggle with solutions,” he writes, although his “research” appears to have largely consisted of incredibly creepy searches on Pornhub, interviewing victims, endorsing SESTA-FOSTA and Section 230 repeal, and memorizing whatever Exodus Cry/Trafficking Hub’s Leila Mickelwait told him.
You can watch Kristof’s censorship-craving mind try to wrap itself around the complex 1996 debates that resulted in Section 230: “if Pornhub curated videos more rigorously, the most offensive material might just move to the dark web or to websites in less-regulated countries,” he muses. “Yet at least they would then not be normalized on a mainstream site.”
Wait until he figures out "Moderator's Dilemma."
“More pressure and less impunity would help,” then he concludes, to his own satisfaction, before endorsing again “limiting Section 230 immunity” (i.e., SESTA-FOSTA) because it “leads to better self-policing.”
Finally, Kristof almost gives up: “I don’t see any neat solution. But aside from limiting immunity so that companies are incentivized to behave better, here are three steps that would help: 1.) Allow only verified users to post videos. 2.) Prohibit downloads. 3.) Increase moderation.”
Ah, “increase moderation.”
Yes, Nicholas Kristof: you’ve finally arrived to the real issue, and what your headline should have been: “Large Tech Platforms Have a Serious Moderation Issue.”
Clearly, the New York Times and Kristof thought that headline wasn't as "sexy" as "The Children of Pornhub" and a picture of an at-risk teen.
And anyone in the — still legal — adult industry can tell you that's just plain wrong.
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