#Illario
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whispersleo · 3 days ago
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Illario "well if that makes me a villain, then so fuckin be it" Dellamorte
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It was four in the morning and this man was eating my head like a fucking parasite, I love him so much.
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I love the idea that he would have also been possessed by a demon, and of course it would be an envy demon.
Lucanis may have aesthetic wings but Illario would have two more arms! With sharp claws! Isn't that super cool?
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[I took the text screenshots from this amazing post here]
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redredribbon · 2 days ago
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I really love this analysis and I wanted to include prev tags as well because this is a great addition
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Possible unpopular Caterina Dellamorte opinion.
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I don't see what she did as abuse in the way many now write her. She has been demonised as a monster and I think that is unfair. Did she perhaps push too hard sometimes? Yes.
Was her training any different than any other Crow? No.
Every Crow goes through brutal training in order to be the best at what they do and maintain their well earned reputation. Caterina had two family members left of the most important House in the Crows after the rest were killed in a war of succession. She'd managed to hold the title of First Talon not only to stay in charge but to protect what family she had left from those who would take it all from her.
She old guard. Lived through the worst of it. Seen what the Black Shadow did to House Arainai and other Crows that pushed their luck.
She's seen what can happen to other Houses... ones people no longer remember the names of. She doesn't want that to happen to Lucanis and Illario. So she trains them hard.
Trains them like a trainer hones the skills of an Olympic athlete to become gold medallists. Like a Shaolin Monk trains an initiate to become a living weapon. Like specialists train spec op soldiers to withstand conditions and situations most others wouldn't. It's painful, harsh and brutal.
But needed. They will become trained assassins...Master assassins. Because they have to be the best, they have to survive and stay on top.
Because there is no alternative.
They are both Dellamorte's. Even if they wanted to leave they'd be hunted down as leverage by other Houses or anyone the Crows have made enemies of.
The only way either of those boys could leave is if they abandoned everything including their name and that wasn't going to happen, they were kids.
And they wanted to be Crows. Was her punishments for failure harsh? Yes. But we have to realise they are of the setting. This isn't a contemporary story.
We also have no idea what Illario was like as a kid either, but if he was as flippant about training as he is about doing jobs as an adult, then we can guess what he was like as a teen.
Did she fail in the way she treated Illario like he wasn't as good? Yes no doubt there, she is partly to blame for some of Illario's issues. But not all of them.
Lucanis though, I see as the quiet one, the one who wanted to do well, to please his grandmother, the only family he has left and that's why he becomes favourite, because maybe he was present, willing and enthusiastic.
It's why sometimes she pushed him too hard and he failed. She's fearful and yes I do think she did fuck up with sending him to bed with no food... but that was a standard punishment at one point, as was using a cane.
Does anyone think a naughty step was around then or would have worked for a family dedicated to assassination??? Plus all Crows go through pain and torture resistance training. Rook would have too. Many seem to forget this aspect. Rook calls Viago's training torture. Lucanis says that he hated her once but grew to understand and respect her cruelty as a way to prepare him for the life of a Master Assassin. Her training saved his life countless times and probably saved him in the Ossuary. He wouldn't be here without what she did. And we see how in Lucanis mind prison His idea of her that holds him back. Spite words it as - both tenderness and terror. rage and relief. Fear of disappointment. She is an icon to him. She survived other Houses trying to wipe her House out. She's formiddable and he admires that even if it scared him as a kid.
She is there in his mind prison because he fears being a disappointment to her, now he is an Abomination. He admires her and doesn't think he's good enough to take her place as First Talon. That's no longer hate. That's admiration. He's not the teen, fearing disappointing her. He's the adult understanding her training made him as good as he is. Yet he fears he failed her by what he became through no fault of his own ( though there is probably a part of him that feels he failed because he was caught). But we do not see Caterina reject him once on his return. She never gave up looking for him once she knew the body returned was not his. We do not see her call him an Abomination. We see her call him her grandson. We see her name him First Talon. Because he is fit for the role. The only one who could be. Often the ones who don't want to lead are the best suited for the roles and she knows it, has known it all along. Illario would never have made a good First Talon. That job involves delegation, empathy and understanding of a situation. He is analytical, keeping logbooks and understanding responsibility - already perfectly suited to the role. Illario jumps head first into things and only thinks of himself, how being First Talon will be good for him. Lucanis would be doing it for the good of the Crows and Antiva. Caterina has failings. That is not in question. She should have been more there for Illario. Nurtured his good points rather than let his bad ones fester. But we do not know what he was like, only how he is now. But she is not a monster and her tough upbringing of Lucanis and Illario wasn't abuse.
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fiadoesart · 1 day ago
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I stayed one hour on this spot on the roof just before the bloodbath mission just to take pictures. These are a selected few of the MANY I took. Just hoping on the idle animations and sheer luck. A Labour of love for these two. And they just pay me back with pain
Lucanis live reaction
He greatly disapprooves
I just...love them.
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( xerxes is a mourn watcher but veil jumper colours suit him best haha)
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widowmura · 1 day ago
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First art of the year and it's a Veilguard meme.
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hextechmaturgy · 29 days ago
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he did nothing wrong!!!!!!!!!! click me for a higher resolution cause my canvas was massive and you deserve to see his cheek mole in hd
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annanuna-arts · 24 days ago
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I doodled a little bit today
Little bit of Lucanis with different hairstyles and glasses, because he's Bayonetta
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Illario being a ponny and a wet rat
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And Viago being the prettiest princess at the party ♥
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vaguely-concerned · 14 days ago
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huh. you know something I just consciously put together for the first time about caterina and lucanis' relationship is that through the game we get to hear them talk about each other a lot, but we get very few chances to hear them speak with each other at any length at all. contrast it with other companions whose storylines have elements of 'believed lost/long time no see relative returns!' like bellara and davrin, where we get to see both of them have several pretty in-depth conversations with cyrian and eldrin. hell I think even rook talks with varric longer in the regret prison scene than we ever get to see lucanis and caterina interact directly.
(and when we do see them interact, it's mostly one-sided -- it is, perhaps unsurprisingly, caterina who is doing most of the talking and giving all the orders, as he ruefully observes is her wont after murder of crows. including jumpscaring him with 'you're first talon now btw' and the shocked pikachu face in five acts he goes through in response lmao. perhaps it's more accurate to say that she talks at him and he reacts, than that they talk to each other much.)
it has such an interesting effect too, because in deliberately denying us direct insight or experience and only having this mosaic of description from each of them to go on, as well as forcing us to pay attention to the negative space of what is carefully not said, it's evocative along the same principle that you never actually show the monster in a horror film. if you've read the wigmaker job you have a clearer image of the more uh. worrying elements at play here going in, but there is something fascinatingly insidious and naturalistic in the way it's 'hushed up' in the game itself. she has his complete loyalty both as a member of her house and, more importantly, that of an abused child to a parent figure. he readily admits several times that she's a difficult person to live with, an even more difficult person to be loved by ("even for me. and I was her favourite")... but never once does he actively blame her nor truly conceptualize that he has every right to do so (that he can be angry with her and still love her, because whether he should or not he unavoidably does), or that she might have acted differently than she did, that she made a choice every time to hurt him. even affectionately he speaks of her as a force of nature, an act of god -- something that can't be reasoned or pleaded with or resisted, something you can only hope to navigate with as little pain as possible and pray to survive. let yourself get carried away by the riptide, resisting it will only make it worse. you don't compromise with a hurricane, you just try to find the best shelter you can and cross your fingers while you wait for it to pass and be calm again.
love is that hurricane. you do whatever she asks. you earn her continued affection day by day by never letting her down. you only want the things she tells you it's okay to want and cut everything else away preemptively. ("A wyvern tooth dagger?? I loved wyverns as a boy --Caterina would never let me have one of these, though." and as we have all wept and gnashed our teeth over, it never even OCCURS to him that he's a like thirty-five year old adult man who can buy himself any dagger he wants at any time. she said he couldn't have one. so he'll never have one. that's just how it works. and maybe if Illario could just accept that and find his peace with it like I have, this whole thing wouldn't be so difficult. oh lucanis.)
such is the price -- and the cost -- of being loved by her, it's a loan on which the interest will never stop piling up. you have to keep paying it down in perfection every day if you want to keep it. who got the worse deal there: the grandson who has abandoned everything else in life to live up to that and mostly succeeded, until the day he's so burned out and broken it threatens to no longer be an option, or the grandson who can never seem to scrape together enough worth in her eyes no matter how he begs, borrows or steals it, how he hustles and plays dirty?
one of the worst things that can happen to anyone is to be loved by a selfish god. another one of the worst things that can ever happen to anyone is to not be loved by a selfish god. (hope that helps, boys!) even in betraying everything else, Illario can't bring himself to hurt his grandmother, because that would defeat the whole point. who would he defiantly be proving himself worthy to, without her. in love, devotion, submission, hatred, frustration, bitterness, everything is defined in relation to her, you can spot the gravitational force of it through how the dellamorte family move through time and space. she -- her love and regard and attention -- is still the sun both of their worlds orbit around, even as adults. the game might never tell you outright 'she used to beat and starve them growing up. for their own good you see, so they'd be strong (and broken down enough for her to build them up again however she wanted but I'm sure that's incidental)', but if you know even a little bit about how these dynamics can work the writing is on the wall everywhere you look and all the more unsettling for it.
follow lucanis' freeze-logic and fraught interpersonal catch 22 irreconcilable mixed emotions problems back far enough, looong before the ossuary entered the picture, and you start to see caterina's ghost around every fucking corner. she is so proud of him. (well, she would be. she made him. she forged exactly the knife she needed and it rests willingly, devotedly, in her hands, it would return to her every time because it doesn't know love as anything but to be a knife. his tama never taught him how to be anything else. his biggest fear with her is that she won't even want him back, the way he is now.) to the best ability of her soul, whatever parts of it survived a lifetime of crow politics and 'five children, eight grandchildren, only Illario and me left now', I think she really does loves him. he certainly loves her, with all the sincerity and artless desperation of a child, of the little boy he was once. and what she's done to him (and to illario, for all his shitty gremlin scar-ass antics lol) is awful. the harm is real, and the love is real, and trying to find a way for these two truths to exist in the same space is driving all three of them their own individualized forms of insane. you know. the way only family can and so often does lol.
through implications and short glimpses and having to put the pieces together yourself, you can have the feeling that there is very genuine mutual love and attachment in this relationship... and that beneath that there is something so profoundly wrong. and the sneaking '...oh shit it gets worse the longer I think about it' horror of that is more effective for me at least than the stark in-your-face presentation of the facts of the matter could have been. the love is here. the love is here. it only ever makes it worse.
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tragerfcks · 2 months ago
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DRAGON AGE: THE VEILGUARD💭
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fijuj · 1 month ago
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fenya4ka · 7 days ago
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A postcard with young crows and a small plot for it Happy New Year to all!💛
- Illario, I already have six knives. Why do I need another one?
- You better explain to me why I need a scarf in Antiva?
- Well... for now that's all I understand.
- I also threw you some knitting needles, so don't whine. Happy New Year, brother!
- Happy New Year, Illari!
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eurodyne-d · 1 month ago
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Illario Dellamorte
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notebooks-and-laptops · 1 month ago
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I will say I'm not an Illario girly but I do understand. Like. For one that's the morally dubious crowd we were promised. For another. The scene where he breaks Zaras neck SLAPS. The way she calls out to him as Amatus. The way she looks at him. The way he's so quick with it. The breaking of trust on BOTH sides because it's the moment we know for certain he's betrayed Lucanis but ALSO the moment he betrays Zara thus making him impossibly and completely alone. It just. It SLAPS man. It 100% slaps.
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xenogaby · 2 months ago
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It hurts because Lucanis still cares for Illario and always will, but Illario is so far gone in his jealousy and greed that it blinds him...
He wanted so badly to be Caterina's favorite, that he couldn't see he was Lucanis' favorite 😭
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nostalgiaclown · 29 days ago
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little collection of the prettiest flight attendant
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rookinthecrownest · 17 days ago
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Pictured here, one Master Dellamorte who has learned precisely nothing about seducing hot Tevinter mages.
Also pictured here, said Tevinter mage about to be swindled in the Treviso marketplace.
Some info about Pompeiia:
She comes from a very old Tevinter family, who are virtually all involved with the Venatori. They saw her as nothing more than a pretty face, a socialite, and a thing to be sold off to the highest bidder with the best pedigree. Pompeiia started spying on her family for the shadow dragons when they were about to marry her off to a magister, in exchange for digging up dirt on him and publicly disgracing him. She continued to spy for the shadow dragons until the events of the game. Eventually she was found out and disowned by her family. She decides to start over in Antiva (post game), but finds starting over in a new country where you dont know anyone and only sort of speak the language, and without access your family’s wealth is a bit harder than she thought.
In comes a certain Illario, who although forgiven and allowed to remain in Treviso, is under the watchful eyes of the Crows and sees an opportunity.
Something something two people who are used to charming the pants off everyone they meet and becoming social chameleons are forced to abandon that when they clock each other’s motives almost instantly. Immovable object v Unstoppable force.
Im disgustingly obsessed with them. This is what happens when @juneiper-art and @teawithshakespeare enable me 😩
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whispersleo · 12 days ago
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Christmas dinner with the crows 💜
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I made myself a little Christmas present. I love my fake family and I can take them (DEFINITELY not in a fight) plus Spite 💜💜💜
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