#If I Never Knew You (“Pocahontas” song)

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Music videos for above songs to refresh your memories:

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After watching the deleted musical number, "If I Never Knew You", I honestly felt like that was a perfect song that best sums up my feelings for Jenny and Kitty (but mostly Jenny). And when I thought about if my character should die if I were to ever to do a self-insert fanfiction series rewriting "My Life as a Teenage Robot" (which I doubt I'll ever get around to), I was thinking that my character should sing this to Jenny after dying at the end of "Escape from Cluster Prime" (which will turn 20 next year).

I imagined that after the final battle (you know, the ending where all but Sheldon hug Jenny), everyone would notice Ozzie unconscious and surround him. Jenny would've been able to wake him up and tell him they won, but while Ozzie is happy to see Jenny one last time, he falls unconscious and Jenny, Brad, Tuck, Sheldon, Dr. Wakeman, and everyone else would cry and mourn for his death. And shortly after the funeral where the casket containing Ozzie's body is buried underground, Jenny would suddenly hear Ozzie, and could see him as a spirit (Whether he should appear as a ghost or a dragon, assuming that from Chinese custom that if someone dies, their souls are lifted into the sky to take the form of a dragon that defined the life someone lived). Either way, Ozzie would remind Jenny not to lose hope, and remind her that she can carry on without him as long as she believes in him.

Maybe that could be a good spot for when they sing their love ballad, with Ozzie reminding Jenny of all the times they had together while he was still living. At first, Jenny wouldn't want him to leave, but would later decide that it's the right thing to do, and Jenny would vow to Ozzie that she'll never let Ozzie down. Ozzie would smile after watching Jenny fly off into the sun, and would fade out of existence knowing Jenny will be alright.

For the song itself I'd combine the song and its reprise together to add a dramatic tension between both sides. But don't worry, I'd still want my character to interact with Jenny (as she would still have Ozzie's ring saved either inside of her or on display in the Wakeman residence), but only she would be able to see and hear Ozzie (That can be something you'll have to interpret for yourselves).

Though, if Season 4 of "My Life as a Teenage Robot" ever happens on Paramount+ (I'm still holding onto hope for that), perhaps the final episode of the proposed season, or some other episode can have Ozzie revived some way, with Ozzie and Jenny singing the pop version of "If I Never Knew You" in a more positive light. But before that, Ozzie could mention to Jenny that they have a lot to catch up on (assuming she would've ended up with Brad or Sheldon).

Down below are the lyrics for my cover of "If I Never Knew You".

[LYRICS]

Ozzie Karate: ♪If I never knew you, if I never felt this love, I would have no inking of how precious life can be.♪

♪If I never held you, I would never have a clue, how at last I find in you the missing part of me.♪

♪In this world so full of fear, full of rage and lies, I can see the truth so clear in your eyes.♪

♪So dry your eyes.♪

♪And I'm so grateful to you. I'd have lived my whole life through lost forever if I never knew you.♪

Jenny: ♪I thought our love would be so beautiful. Somehow, we'd make the whole world bright.♪

♪I never knew that fear and hate could be so strong, all they'd leave us were these whispers in the night.♪

♪But still, my heart is saying we were right.♪

♪For... if I never knew you...♪

Ozzie Karate (Singing overlapping with Jenny): ♪There's no moment I regret...♪

Jenny (Singing overlapping with Ozzie): ♪if I never felt this love...♪

Ozzie Karate (Singing overlapping with Jenny): ♪since the moment that we met.♪

Jenny: (Singing overlapping with Ozzie): ♪I would have no inking of...♪

Ozzie Karate (Singing overlapping with Jenny): ♪If our time has gone too fast...♪

Jenny: (Singing overlapping with Ozzie): ♪how precious life can be!♪

Ozzie Karate (Singing overlapping with Jenny): ♪I've lived at last.♪

(After a few seconds of the instrumental score, the music crescendos.)

Jenny: ♪And I'm so grateful to you.♪

Ozzie Karate: ♪I'd have lived my whole life through.♪

(The music crescendos, then becomes gentle.)

Jenny: ♪Empty as the sky.♪

Ozzie Karate: ♪Never knowing why.♪

Both: ♪Lost forever... If... I... never... knew... you!♪♪

(The chorus vocalizes to the tune of "Colors of the Wind" until the music ends)

EPISODE SOURCE: "Class Action" (for the picture of Jenny)

[polniaczek]

Mel Gibson & Judy Kuhn - If I Never Knew You

[midwesternorcprincess]

need more same-sex duets on love songs..... don't think i've ever heard one in my life, not even once

[autismmydearwatson]

Disney songs that hit different when you're queer

"Reflection" Mulan (specifically if you're transgender)

"I'll Make A Man Out of You" Mulan (the transmasc euphoria song)

"Jack's Lament" the Nightmare Before Christmas

"Part of Your World" the Little Mermaid

"God Help the Outcasts" the Hunchback of Notre Dame

"I'm Still Here" Treasure Planet (specifically my transmasc anthem but my experiences are not universal)

"Out There" the Hunchback of Notre Dame (when you're closeted)

"Waiting On a Miracle" Encanto (when you're queer and religious)

"One of Us" Lion King 2

"How Far I'll Go" Moana ( when the people who raised you wouldn't let you be exposed to any queer media)

"Colors of The Wind" Pocahontas (the only good thing the Pocahontas franchise brought us was the soundtrack. When my friend was closeted she said to a girl who was being blatantly homophobic " you think the only people who are people are the people that look and think like you." Stopped her in her tracks!)

"Kiss the Girl" the Little Mermaid (but specifically when. You know what I mean lmao)

"When Will My Life Begin" Tangled

"Go The Distance" Hercules

"I Won't Say I'm In Love" Hercules

"One Jump Ahead (reprise)" Aladdin

"Proud of Your Boy" Aladdin Broadway musical

"If I Never Knew You" Pocahontas

Do feel free to add. Just don't let Disney see this

[iongsiyi]

pocahontas: the princess at the bottom of the hierarchy (part 1)

(see disclaimer at bottom of post)

what better way to spend a 3 hour plane ride than to write a tumblr post about the most underrated disney princess of all time - pocahontas

at the time of release, it received immense backlash for creating a love story between a native american and a colonizer. however, my blog post is solely looking at it through a fictional lens.

their love story properly began with the song “colors of the wind”

“you think you own whatever land you land on, the earth is just a dead thing you can claim, but i know every rock and tree and creature, has a life, had a spirit, has a name”

“you think the only people who are people, are the people who look at think like you”

“come run the hidden pine trails of the forest, come taste the sunsweet berries of the earth, come roll in all the riches all around you. and for once, never wonder what they’re worth”

those are my favorite lyrics from the popular song since it captured the essence of pocahontas and john’s differences. pocahontas is essentially teaching him her way of living, showing him a new side of the world, and as the song progresses, their bond grows stronger. disney used the duration of a single song to showcase them bonding, having fun together, and allowing john smith to realize that life isn't about conquering lands, it's about understanding the land around you.

there are not many similarities between them, they grew up, lived, ate, drank, and spoke completely differently. but there is one thing they have in common - their loyalty, their love for their people, and the extent they would go to protect the ones they love.

considering their background, their differences in living, how they both have different missions in life and more important things they need to hold onto (see previous post) they knew for a fact, from the start, that they would never end up together. and let’s face it, there’s no rooting for it, love doesn’t stand against everything. because as i’ve said, there are bigger things in life that one needs to hold onto.

and they did just that, holding what they love dear.

Disclaimer:

I acknowledge history and the trauma, the damage, the hurt that indigenous people or anyone in history who has been mistreated, abused, or slaughtered has been through, and my blog is in no way trying to glorify history, change history, or reverse the damage they have been through. My blog is looking at stories solely through the lens of fiction. I am not trying to speak on behalf of anyone who created the stories but myself, who is only here appreciating fictional characters and stories.

however, i will not be replying to anyone who expresses anything regarding my posts. any reblogs with a reply i will ignore, criticism or not.

i am also here as a fellow blogger to encourage you to keep posting your opinions, on your blogs or reply to mine. that’s an important thing about tumblr, our opinions are what keeps this platform going.

thank you for your time and i hope you have a great rest of your day.

[maliaelise6]

Ikepri Disney songs

Okay so I like finding songs of one artist or genre and finding one to dedicate to each ikepri character but I keep struggling trying to come up with ikepri characters connecting to (specifically) Disney love songs. I'm cool with leaving the love songs area but here's what I have so far if anyone wants to suggest songs or changes I'd love to hear it :3

Spoilers obv

Jin: Strangers like me from Tarzan - because I think the theme of him learning how to love and actually accept himself is kinda connected to the song. Also I just love him sm

Chevalier: Evermore from Beauty and The Beast (liveaction) as much as I hate live action, this is so good. It screams Chev. He knows Emma is always gonna come back and he doesn't know why but it makes him happy 🥺

Clavis: I won't say I'm in love from Hercules. Is it my favorite song? Yes. Is he my favorite character? Yes. But its so 'Emma being totally in love without realizing it and feeling horribly conflicted about her feelings because of her duty' coded. This is her song to him 1000%

Leon: a whole new world from Aladin. Man. Play the first chapter of his story if you don't already see it lmao. Mr. "Take my hand and I'll show you a whole new world/life" sounding ass

Yves: kiss the girl from the little mermaid. Just the sweetest boy, man. Licht, Jin, Leon, and Rio are DESPERATELY trying to make him make the first move.

Licht: Thats How You Know from Enchanted. Idrk enchanted very well and I don't know licht very well but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ just silly Yves and nokto trying to get him to make a move

Nokto: a girl worth fighting for from mulan. This is where the "not a love song" problem comes in. I do think that if you take away the actual context you can make a connection between the beginning when all the guys are talking about what they want, that's just him messing with other women, but when things get serious its him realizing he doesn't actually want any of them, and that he has feelings he doesn't truly understand for Emma. Kinda a reach but I've never been one for accuracies in things like this lmao.

Luke: I see the light from tangled. Omg. "All those days, chasing down a daydream. All those years living in a blur. All that time, never truly seeing things the way they were." HIM REALIZING THAT HE SPENT HIS WHOLE LIFE WITH NOTHING BUT REVENGE AND HATRED AND AHHH. HIM CHANGING FOR EMMA. HIS WHOLE LIFE HAS TO CHANGE AND ITS SCARY BUT FOR THE BEST

Rio: so this is love from Cinderella? I really don't know for him tbh

Sariel: ma belle Evangeline from the princess and the frog. Idk it has old lovers vibes and thats what Sariel gives. Maybe it'd fit better for Rio? Idk I'm iffy on this one

Silvio: colors of the wind from pocahontas. Not exactly love but it fits well. Teaching him that value isn't purely monetary.

Keith: another one I really don't know. I love him sm but I really got nothing man. Please recommend something 🙏

Gilbert: once upon a dream from sleeping beauty. HE WANTS HER TO KNOW HIM. HES BEEN DREAMING OF MEETING HER FOR SO LONG. SUCH A 'we might not know each other now but I knew you once in a place so far back in my mind that it escapes me.'

Please give me ideas for Sariel, Keith, and Rio 😭😭

[alice-after-dark]

Hazbin Hotel Characters/Ships as Disney Songs

Full disclosure, I did not put a fuck ton of effort into this, I just sort of went with what I liked for them so please feel free to disagree (send me asks, wink wink nudge nudge). Also I gave Alastor two songs because of how he plays himself to the hotel vs his real intentions. Also also there's only a few ships cause I just did my personal favs.

This post has a sequel now.

CHARACTERS

Charlie - How Far I'll Go (Moana)

Vaggie - God Help the Outcasts (The Hunchback of Notre Dame)

Alastor - Friend Like Me (Aladdin) / Poor Unfortunate Souls (Little Mermaid)

Angel Dust - Reflection (Mulan)

Niffty - Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious (Mary Poppins)

Husk - Everybody Wants to Be a Cat On My Way (Brother Bear)

Sir Pentious - Go the Distance (Hercules)

Cherri Bomb - Hakuna Matata (Lion King)

Lucifer - You've Got a Friend in Me (Toy Story)

Vox - Trust in Me (The Jungle Book)

Velvette - Perfect Isn't Easy (Oliver & Company)

Valentino - Mother Knows Best (Tangled)

Carmilla - You'll Be in My Heart (Tarzan)

Rosie - Zero to Hero (Hercules)

Adam - Shiny (Moana)

Lute - Be Prepared (Lion King)

SHIPS

Charlie/Vaggie - If I Never Knew You (Pocahontas)

Husk/Angel Dust - I See the Light (Tangled)

Sir Pentious/Cherri Bomb - Kiss the Girl (Little Mermaid)

Alastor/Vox - I Won't Say I'm in Love (Hercules) / Can I Have This Dance? (High School Musical 3...self-indulgent pick lol)

Valentino/Vox - Our Message to the People (Wish Fan Song by MilkyyMelodies & Caleb Hyles...ngl love this for them)

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Disney's revival era: an Alternate Timeline

A bit of a weird idea; I wanted to write an alternate universe where the Disney revival era made different choices with their films, and whether or not it paid off for them. I'm starting with "The Princess and the Frog" since I consider it the start of the era more than "Bolt."

(Edit: I've since made posts about remaking the renaissance and post-renaissance eras, but since those came out before the revival era, they don't exist in the same AU. Maybe I'll tweak this post so they do.)

The Princess and the Frog--In this timeline, Disney catches onto the "If we put 'princess' in the title, it'll reduce our box office" thing faster and changes the title to "Frogs." This outrages the black community, who also criticizes Disney for making the two leads frogs for most of the film. This results in a story overhaul, with the story being renamed "Cursed," and Tiana no longer turns into a frog when kissing Naveen, but she does gain the ability to speak to animals. This version of the film doesn't reveal his identity until the end, with Naveen going by Lawrence and the human "Naveen" we see is actually Lawrence working with Dr. Facilier to scam Lottie as well as woo Tiana to give them back Naveen. Naveen himself cannot discuss the curse, and must promise to help Tiana when he becomes human again by kissing a princess. Naveen's treatment as a frog also draws parallels to the treatment of people of color at the time, since Naveen is depowered here.The film ends up making about $400 million and still getting Disney out of their creative slump, as well as Ne-Yo's "Never Knew I Needed" being an actual song in the film (because it's so good and so underrated). "Tiana" becomes a Disney+ series that helps to promote the platform when it first debuts. It also got a Broadway adaptation in 2013, with Anika Noni Rose reprising her role when it debuted.

Tangled--In this timeline, Glen Keane's seminar on the benefits of 2D and 3D tilts favor in 2D's way, and he persuades Disney executives David Stainton and Dick Cook to make it by making the art style fuller akin to the Rococo paintings the film was inspired by (check out Lisa Keane's concept art for it). Kristen Chenoweth is kept on as Rapunzel, making some discourse on the internet later on when it was revealed Idina Menzel also auditioned for the role. The movie also finalizes Bastion instead of making Flynn Rider, due to concern that he'd be too similar to Naveen, and Beneditch Cumberbatch is cast as him (apparently he was supposed to be British, so I kinda jumped on this opportunity). "You are my Forever" and it's reprise are never cut here, and the movie also utilizes the darker original concept (no idea what it was; I heard about it and it sounds intriguing), with fans and critics likening it to "Mulan," "The Hunchback of Notre Dame," and "Pocahontas" for it's tone. The film makes about the same amount of money the original did, and makes Disney reconsider retiring 2D. The success inspires a Broadway production MUCH earlier, which makes many report that it's at home with Disney's renaissance adaptations on Broadway (with Mandy Moore making her stage debut as Rapunzel), and a TV series (with tighter writing) on Disney+ in 2019, which also helps bring in subscribers with "Tiana."

Winnie the Pooh--I wouldn't change much, other than the fact that it got promoted more and made about $200 or $300 million at the box office, prompting Disney to make "Goodbye Christopher Robin" a bit earlier.

Wreck It Ralph--Similar to "Tangled," WIR goes through the "2D or 3D" discussion, with 2D winning out in order to give it a retro vibe and appeal to a wider audience, taking inspiration from 90s video games and TV series. Critical response likens it to Pixar, and praises Disney for a particularly successful original film, making Disney open to more original stories in the future.

Frozen--Disney can't hold back the 3D desire any longer, and believes that the winter atmosphere makes "Frozen" the ideal film to showcase it. The Norwegian influence is more obvious and accurate here (versus a more vague Scandinavian influence like in the OG timeline) and they keep Elsa and Anna as sisters while still making Elsa the villain, though redeeming her at the end by using the mirror from the original fairy tale to explain her villainy. Here, Anna accidentally ruins Elsa's coronation (as originally stated in the wiki during the film's development), and when Elsa flees, she returns, more powerful than ever, to ruin Anna's coronation, making an ice palace out of the Kingdom of Arendelle and trapping Anna, just as Elsa felt trapped. Elsa also has two looks: her blue skin and dark hair when she uses her powers, and white skin/hair when she doesn't, though by the end, it's shown that the hair/skin color can mix and match (black hair with white skin and blue skin with white hair being fan-favorites, I'm sure). Hans isn't a twist villain, and Kristoff's design draws comparisons to Bastion, and the producers lean into the theory that they're long-lost brothers. Hans has much less brothers, instead it just being five, and his journey in the story is essentially the opposite of Anna's, where he wants to be distant from his family. By the end, Elsa does let Anna keep the throne--and the citizens understandably agree. The film still becomes the phenomenon it did IRL, and it POSSIBLY leads to Disney discussing a sequel much sooner.

Big Hero 6--The film has some significant changes: Fred and Wasabi are of partial Japanese heritage, (with the film attracting attention for having a predominately Asian cast, and Honey Lemon might have some Chinese ancestry mixed with her Latin roots; plus "My Hero Academia" debuting the same year in Japan helps boost both in popularity), Gogo is a convicted felon on parole to mirror her comic counterpart, head of story Paul Briggs and co-writer Robert L. Baird reading the entire run of the series, and inspiration is taken from X-Men and Teen Titans for the show, with Wasabi, Fred, and Gogo being superpowered individuals (Fred's draconic powers, Wasasbi's qi manipulation, Gogo's superspeed) while Hiro and Honey Lemon are human nerds. Yokai is also more present, with the plot twist of his identity being revealed earlier. It's also noted that Yokai took inspiration from Amon from season 1 of "The Legend of Korra," which has earned both praise and criticism for what some consider copycating. Baymax is Hiro's creation like in the comics, and Tadashi dies a little later in the film for more dramatic effect (the longer you know someone, the more it hurts). It's production goes smoothly, and it's moved up to a Spring release to better coincide with "Frozen" and it's success with it's message of sisterly love. The directors also advocate for it to be 2D, but Disney making $1 billion with "Frozen" makes them hesitant to do so, so they reach a compromise, making the film a hybrid style (somehow developing the tech earlier). This art style, combined with the superhero craze and positive reviews, pushes the film to make $1 billion, or something close to it.

Zootopia--The decision to make the film about a dystopian future where predators are oppressed ends up being the final cut. The film ends up being a bigger sleeper hit than the OG version, since it received controversy in certain countries for the USA making what was perceived to be a propaganda film about human rights and a jab at those specific nations. Of course, the controversy only heightens interest in the film, though Disney tries to smooth this over by clarifying that it wasn't meant to be a propaganda film, though some criticize them for not speaking up for oppressed people in said countries. The 3D art style is kept the same.

Moana--This version makes a few changes: "Moana" takes place in a specific land, (though I personally haven't decided if it's set in Samoa or Tahiti), Moana is a grown adult by this point and has a couple brothers, but not as many as in the concept art, and Maui isn't portrayed as obese and is more athletic, with Dwayne Johnson and Jason Mamoa's figures being a primary inspiration. Moana also practices wayfinding and navigating the seas under Tala's supervision before she goes to find Maui. Moana also isn't as headstrong about seafaring; she still wants to do it, but her mother tells her the story of her father much earlier in order to quell her, and her own accident makes her more hesitant. Maui also isn't a catalyst for all the bad events of the film; Te Fiti's heart is instead taken by selfish seafarers, with the overall message of the film mirroring a love for nature and others. There is also a bit of flirting between Moana and Maui, but the crew wants Moana to focus on her self-finding journey (plus Auli'i is still 14 while Dwayne is 44, so they wanted to avoid controversy), so nothing is concrete. Originally it had the "2D or 3D" crisis, but reached a reverse-"Tangled" situation, now being made as predominantly 3D with 2D watercolor elements. Dinah Jane (who auditioned for Moana IRL) sings the commercial version of "How Far I'll Go" instead of Alessia Cara. It meets the same financial success, with some saying that Moana took all the positive qualities of Ariel and Pocahontas without being held back by her predecessors' flaws. The film also gets a Broadway adaptation, being seen as a standout for it's diversity on the stage, as well as postponing news of a remake and resulting in the sequel being greenlit earlier rather than a show being considered in the interim.

Ralph Breaks the Internet--No major notes, but the references do heighten the Disney princess films and ignite conversations about whether or not critics have treated them unfairly. The film was also argued to be hybrid or 3D animation, but the concern of disconnect made them keep it 2D. It makes about the same in box office.

Frozen II--POSSIBLY released earlier if Disney didn't wait 3 years to greenlight a sequel (I'd put it at 2017 if they decided IMMEDIATELY to make a sequel), but Disney didn't make the mistake of using super young kids for test audiences, and production is MUCH smoother. As such, the more serious aspects of the film are kept, and Hans joins the gang here. The Northuldra are more characters than plot devices, and are diverse in terms of phenotype and genotypes; originally Disney had them mirror Indigenous Americans, but in my version, their Sami influence made some members of the tribe also have European features. Queen Iduna comes from these European members (I feel like that's easier to believe than her coming from the members who appear more Native American), and Elsa doesn't stop living in Arendelle, traveling instead. Agnar and Iduna get their flashbacks to show their relationship, as well as reducing Agnar's criticism as a terrible father. Plus there are FOUR songs marketed: "Lost in the Woods" is made more theatrical than rock-influenced (not that I hated it; it just wasn't right for this film), while edited versions of "Show Yourself" and "The Next Right Thing" (ie an Anna and Elsa duet of "Show Yourself" and lyrics that suggest Anna has been separated from the group in TNRT rather than suggesting the loss of certain characters) are exhibited to be the award contenders. Of course, "Into the Unknown" is still an exec favorite, with "Show Yourself" being a last-minute submission to awards. The film earns significant praise and is still a phenomenon, albeit less of an underrated one. The success of this film leads to the Broadway show being retooled in order to include some elements of the plot and the Northuldra, as well as making about $1.5 billion at the box office thanks to more positive reviews than the OG timeline "Frozen 2" and COVID not being a factor if it was released in 2017.

Raya and the Last Dragon--Right off the bat, the film again goes through the "2D or 3D" question, with 2D winning out, particularly thanks to Scott Watanabe's concept art (not shown here; this is Ryan Lang's). Rather than an amalgamation of Southeast Asia, Kumandra is a land made of five lands inspired by distinct cultures. Raya is the daughter of an emperor influenced by the Vietnamese empire, and the guardian of the dragon gem. Raya originally seeks to restore her land and the others as one nation of unity when the gem is broken and stolen, but recognizes the new nations as independent after realizing that her land (nicknamed "Heart" mockingly by the other regions) may have been too oblivious to the suffering of other people. This film is a musical, and while Kelly Marie Tran still plays Raya's speaking voice, the film takes inspiration from "Tarzan" and "The Lion King: The Gift" by having songs placed over the scenes rather than the characters singing themselves, representing their thoughts. Sisu also comes off a lot more serious and wise, being a mother-like figure to Raya rather than a sister. The voice cast better reflects the SEA culture, and a tighter world/message allows for better word of mouth--plus it's amazing music makes it an instant classic. The diversity and positive reception actually puts it's box office at similar figures to "Demon Slayer: Mugen Train."

Encanto--Mostly the same, except tighter in story. Antonio, Isabella and Luisa spend more time with Mirabel throughout the film to emphasize the family bonds (rather than just Mirabel with Alma and rushing through her relationships with everyone else), and we see more insight into Pepa and Julieta's dynamic. The film makes a bit more money given that it's a phenomenon, but COVID keeps it from doing anything too record-breaking, sadly. "Raya" and "Encanto" being released in the same year to massive success is marked as a legendary year for diversity in Hollywood. It still remains a 3D film.

Strange World--Overhaul, overhaul, overhaul. The story and visuals are more ambitious, and is more science-fantasy than sci-fi. Firstly, the film goes for the hybrid style of animation, since it fits sci-fi genre (or sci-fan in this take) so well, and Ethan is older and is almost the main character instead of his dad (I wanted to make him the main character, but a Disney protagonist in their 40s is pretty rare). The main cast are humanoid aliens that take influence from comic books and anime, mainly the Kree, Tamaraneans, and the Saiyans, with the main theme being rejuvenation and family, essentially a cross between "Moana" "Atlantis," and "Encanto," (with a touch of Fox's "Avatar") with Avalonia's culture being influenced from lesser-known European and Afro-Asiatic cultures. The Clade family works as mercenaries hired by a mysterious benefactor to destroy a rebel group that seeks to threaten Avalonia--but when the truth comes out, they may find themselves rogues in order to save their world. Disney actually promotes this movie like CRAZY due to COVID, and it makes around $300 million, with praise going for it's plot being unique among Disney films. Disney's sequel fever is a bit altered due to this (ie Zootopia 2 being released in spring of 2025 instead of fall, mirroring the first film's release date).

Wish--Disney utilizes MANY original concepts, such as human Star (who's the son of Magnifico and Amaya here), while Amaya is the evil queen from the get-go, and Magnifico struggles between good and evil due to his trauma. Asha's friend group is more prominent, and she's a much more shy and reserved protagonist. Asha's design is influenced by the Mowry sisters, who both have their own past with Disney. Disney uses the Anderson-Lopez team for the music since they already were working on a Spain-inspired film for Disney (not sure if Julia is entirely to blame for the music, though, and should their use in "Wish" affect their work with the "Frozen" franchise? Julia still sings the end credits song, though). The filmmakers EXTENSIVELY watch classic and modern Disney films, as well as "Enchanted" (because duh), and try to use abandoned concepts from other Disney films to use for "Wish." They opt to make the film 2D with 3D elements (ie magic and effects) to acknowledge Disney's history. The film achieves over $600 in box office, and Asha is inducted into the Disney princess line, as well as the movie earning praise for it's depth and tackling of complex themes such as wishes, dreams, and loss, including how what you want and what you need aren't synonymous. Currently undergoing a stage adaptation, something Disney wanted to keep under wraps but was eager to announce to carry over the 100 years celebration.

I know this is a bit of an odd post, and I'm sure others would have more creative ideas on an alternate timeline, but I wanted to utilize what we had. Perhaps I'll come back and edit this to include scrapped Disney movies.

[katerinaaqu]

Gosh...remembering this amazing song from the classic Pocahontas made me soooo imagine Penelope's last goodbye before Odysseus leaves

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

As you know Odysseus was one of the possible suitors for Helen (later Helen of Sparta later Helen of Troy) but he eventually chose Penelope as his wife due to her virtue and her modesty among others and the two of them fell in love.

I can so imagine Odysseus being depressed that he is about to leave and Penelope is not far back either so she finds him like that and just collapses to his arms. She even might claim that if Odysseus had married Helen instead this war would never be a thing in the first place and if she never loved him then she wouldn't feel the pain of separation...

💔

Penelope: It would have been better if we never met, none of this would have happened!

Odysseus: Penelope, look at me. I'd rather die tomorrow than live 100 years without knowing you

Penelope: I can't leave you...

Odysseus: You never will. No matter what happens to me, I'll always be with you forever.

🥺🥺🥺

If I never knew you

If I never felt this love

I would have no inkling of

How precious life can be

And if I never held you

I would never have a clue

How at last I'd find in you

The missing part of me

In this world so full of fear

Full of rage and lies

I can see the truth so clear

In your eyes, so dry your eyes

And I'm so grateful to you

I'd have lived my whole life through

Lost forever

If I never knew you

If I never knew you

I'd be safe but half as real

Never knowing I could feel

A love so strong and true

I'm so grateful to you

I'd have lived my whole life through

Lost forever

If I never knew you

I thought our love would be so beautiful

Somehow we made the whole world bright

I never knew that fear and hate could be so strong

All they'd leave us were these whispers in the night

But still my heart is singing, we were right, oh

If I never knew you (there's no moment I regret)

If I never knew your love (since the moment that we met)

I would have no inkling of (if our time has gone too fast)

How precious life can be, ooh (I've lived at last)

I thought our love would be so beautiful (so beautiful)

Somehow we'd make the whole world bright

I thought our love would be so beautiful

We'd turn the darkness into light

And still my heart is singing, we were right

We were right

And if I never knew you (if I'd never knew you)

I'd have lived my whole life through

Empty as the sky

Never knowing why

Lost forever

If I never knew you

🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹

Sorry guys again random thoughts while I should be sleeping but damn that sounds so good now in my head! Not to mention a promise that Penelope held onto and hoped till the last moment!

[blackfilmmakers]

What do you think of Asha’s hair moving in this new WISH clip?

https://youtu.be/1i2VXwWEzfw?feature=shared

I saw this last night. If this is Asha’s “Big Princess Number” then I really have no hope for this movie. Song is ass, and they just refuse to animate Asha performing actions that actually correlate with her emotions(not that they have her emote). But I’ll have to save that for another time, let’s focus on the hair animation

For one thing, the wind logic makes no sense; like there isn’t any indication of there being wind strong enough to have her hair float like that.

Disney, did y’all forget that’s why you have animated particle effects like leaves or sparkles or lines to indicate wind? The sparkles behind her are stationed stars btw. The only indication of movement is really just the camera circling around her, as she just doesn’t move herself. She spins around in the last bit, but not enough to have her hair flying around, and even then again it remains in that one damn shape

Her hair breaks a part a bit, but they are trying their damn best to make it remain in that shape, and like you don’t need to??? Disney???!!!

I think they were trying to get a Pocahontas feel from this scene, but none of the animators knew what made it work(animation-wise, movie is garbage).

First off, Pocahontas’s hair, despite her hair designed as a specific shape, you still can see how strands move across her face. Her hair also moves around drastically in the wind, where it never stays in that one shape. Could y’all imagine seeing these, and Pocahontas’s hair just remains one solid shape like Asha’s?

Notice another trait Asha’s scene here doesn’t have? Particle effects and color. There are leaves, fog, and lines to show you an indication their is wind. Asha’s scene got some flower petals falling, but not because of wind. It’s just gravity, which I’m not sure why the petals started falling out of nowhere in mass, nothing indicated the tree was shook enough to have that effect

Btw major continuity error here: you can’t have petals dance around her briefly one scene, only to have her big “shouting out her emotions” moment have her plastered in front of a blank background that is just this one color. Where were the petals?

Anyways, Disney animators heard that Black hair is hard and stiff, and just ran with that. “We did research” my ass

[disney-is-mylife]

Disclaimer: Keep in mind, I'm counting ONLY the Walt Disney Animation Studios line-up.

Okay, I had to snip a few corners towards the end, but here's my criteria:

the song in question has to be about the MAIN COUPLE

the song has to be sung by one or both of the romantically-involved characters, OR:

the song has to be sung ABOUT the characters in their presence

I also wanted to include as much variety as possible, since several of these songs are beautiful, but less popular than recent ones.

Happy voting! ❤

Side-note: I also technically cut several "looser" examples (listing them below to cover my bases):

"Love is a Song That Never Ends" from Bambi (opening credits)

Basically ANY romantic song from the Package-Era films, which is a LOT

"A Most Befuddling Thing" from The Sword in the Stone (about the one-sided attraction between Arthur and the lovesick squirrel)

"My Own Home" from The Jungle Book

"Thomas O'Malley Cat" from The Aristocats (more like O'Malley bragging about himself/flirting with Duchess)

"Tomorrow is Another Day" from The Rescuers (romantic imagery, but more a soft pop song in the background)

"Natural Attraction" from The Fox and the Hound

"Let Me Be Good to You" from The Great Mouse Detective (..... look, it SLAPS, but it's from a burlesque show)

"Heaven's Light/Hellfire" from The Hunchback of Notre Dame (both songs are sung about the romantic feelings for Esmeralda, except both are unrequited, and the latter is............. well.....)

"Strangers Like Me" from Tarzan (there's ..... one or two stanzas about Tarzan's Feels for Jane, but the song is mostly about his character arc)

"Ma Belle Evengeline" from The Princess and the Frog

"Love is an Open Door" from Frozen (this one is Complicated™)

"Lost in the Wood" from Frozen 2 (honestly, I just ran out of room 😭)

And look.... I HAD to count "If I Never Knew You!" It was cut from the theatrical release, yes, but they eventually animated it and stuck it into an anniversary DVD, so! It! Counts! That song never should have been cut, it's so gorgeous 😭

[jasonswh0rre]

AK! Jason Todd x Disney Songs

Matching Disney Songs with my best man!

1. Out There - Movie: The Hunchback of Notre Dame

This song encapsulates Jason’s desire for acceptance and his struggle with the isolation he feels from being betrayed by Batman and tortured by the Joker. It reflects his longing to prove himself and find his place in the world.

2. Hellfire - Movie: The Hunchback of Notre Dame

While it’s from the perspective of a villain, the intensity and dark themes of obsession and internal conflict can mirror Jason’s darker moments, especially his transformation into the Red Hood and his vendetta against Batman and Gotham’s criminals.

3. I'm Still Here - Movie: Treasure Planet

This song captures Jason’s resilience and the journey of self-discovery after experiencing betrayal. It resonates with his determination to survive and forge his path despite the pain of his past.

4. Reflection - Movie: Mulan

This song can reflect Jason’s struggle with his identity, especially during his time as the Arkham Knight and later as Red Hood. It speaks to the conflict between who he is inside and who he was expected to be by Batman and others.

5. Go The Distance - Movie: Hercules

Although it has a more optimistic tone, this song can represent Jason’s underlying desire for redemption and to prove his worth, not just as a hero or a vigilante but as someone more than the tragedy that befell him.

6. Be Prepared - Movie: The Lion King

Echoes Jason’s strategic planning for revenge against Batman and taking control of Gotham’s criminal underworld.

7. Family - Movie: James and the Giant Peach

(Not a Disney movie but still a good feature, this song speaks to the concept of found family, which Jason grapples with in his journey.)

8. One of Us - Movie: The Lion King II: Simba's Pride

Represents Jason’s feelings of betrayal and being outcast from the Bat-family.

9. Strangers Like Me - Movie: Tarzan

Reflects Jason’s curiosity and conflict about Batman’s world and the criminals he fights, seeking to understand and find his place.

10. Who Are You - Movie: Alice In Wonderland (2010)

A song that deals with questions of identity, suitable for Jason’s complex character evolution.

11. Surface Pressure - Movie: Encanto

“Serves as a poignant reflection of Jason Todd’s complex character, capturing his struggle with the expectations placed upon him, his feelings of isolation, and his deep-seated desires to prove himself and make his actions meaningful.

12. If I Never Knew You - Movie: Pocahontas

Though this is love song, it captures the deep, unspoken bond and regret between Jason and Batman, acknowledging their complicated relationship.

13. No Way Out - Movie: Brother Bear

Symbolizes the depth of Jason’s despair and the feeling of being trapped by his past actions and his quest for vengeance.

[violetlunette]

Disney Songs I associate with Silver and Lilia. Why? Because.

Twst spoilers for Chapter 7

Baby of Mine (Dumbo)- Aside from it being a legit lullaby, I imagine that Silver used to face discrimination for being human in a fae-populated land, not helped by the fact that everyone and their mother believes Lilia is wasting his time raising Silver. With all that in mind, I can easily imagine Lilia singing this to Silver. Especially, “If they only knew sweet little you, they’d end up loving you too.” If I Never Knew You (deleted Pocahontas song)- I just love this song for Silver and Lilia, It could be about Lilia realizing how much he loves Silver as a son and how he would never realize how capable of love he was till they met. (I know he loved Malleus before finding Silver, but still.) So this is Love (Cinderella)- I see this as another song referring to Lilia realizing how much he loves his baby. (Thanks to @llondonfog and their anon for pointing this out.) Reflection (Mulan)- Namely, Silver’s POV as he wants nothing more than to bring honor to his father, but feels that he’s a failure. Two Worlds (Tarzan)- Talks about Lilia and Silver being from different worlds, but coming together to make one family. You’ll Be in My Heart (Tarzan)- A song from parent to child. How could it NOT be here? Make a man outta you (Mulan)- Lilia training Silver (and Sebek). Someone’s Waiting for You (Rescuers)- I think of this song when I think of baby Silver waiting for someone to find him. Once Upon a Dream (Sleeping Beauty)- This is mainly because the two are twisted from Sleeping Beauty and because I have a headcanon that these two met in a dream before Lilia found Silver, which is how Silver was able to wake up when the fae arrived.

And those are mine! What do you think? Agree? Disagree? What Disney Songs do you associate with the two? Comment or reblog with your answers!

[dazeddoodles]

i saw the post about caleb/eve and the song colors of the wind. Disney's pocahontas may suck but it's songs are good. onther song from the same movie that i think fits caleb/eve is if i never knew you

Yeah I never thought about it before but the Pocahontas songs fit Caleb and Evelyn fit surprisingly well