#Idk how it got to london

[dinosaursmate]

There has been zero fangirls talk I know nothing pls share

it’s a new musical from Australia that is currently playing in London which is about girl who is a fan of a boyband… whose lead singer is called Harry… they are British and all auditioned for a tv talent show and were put together as a boyband…

anyway so she is 14 and writes self insert fanfiction. She co-writes a fic with a male fan from America called @ saltypringl (the best character in the show) about Harry and the fan going on the run so he can escape his evil management who are working him to death (fan girl says she can see depression in his eyes) (also Salty throws in a mention that management are concealing “multiple queer relationships in the band”)

fan girl kidnaps Harry irl and tries to convince him to go on the run with her but he’s like wtf is wrong with you, you’re disgusting

so she and her friends decide to drug him and throw him in the woods to be found and she will magically not go to jail

he then goes back on tour but halfway through his show realises she was right and leaves the band.

there’s a lot more to the story than this and it is quite mostly played slapstick (as I’m sure you’d hope, reading that synopsis) but it lowkey offended me. The writer was inspired by the reaction when Zayn left 1D and wanted to write something that portrays how strong and valid teenage girls and their feelings are

but imho she fell short of that and the belittling and patronising she did to fandom and fic writers through it undid all the good she might’ve done.

It was written from yes, a sympathetic, but ultimately an outside perspective and offended me as a lifelong fic writer and boyband fan.

I will defend fan fiction strongly and anything that reinforces the idea that all fic is teenagers writing self insert is damaging to our community

[orangesand-lemons-234]

anyhoo. porter x electra is pretty cool. but i think that it would be such a confusing thing to watch. nobody can tell if they love or hate each other.

in fact, only two people actually know they're a thing, and those people are wrench and lumber. electra accidentally let it slip when wrench was doing a repair job, and porter knew it was only a matter of time before lumber figured it out, so he just told him straight up.

[bodytotheconcrete]

ok so i saw Guys & Dolls for the third time today (i have my ways of getting cheap tix so it costs a fraction of regular prices), the West End production of Guys & Dolls at Bridge Theatre, and i am going insane absolutely feral i need someone to understand me

several things about the male MC of the show so yall can understand what im talking about:

male MC, Sky Masterson, is a gambler who thrives at late nights, calls 4am his time of day, and is falling in love throughout the whole show. what's special about the West End version of Sky is that they made him bi/pan. (spoiler alert??) when he takes Sarah, the female MC, to Havana, he says sth like "wanna see what a real party looks like?" and brings her to a gay club and he starts dancing with men (as opposed to a straight club and dancing with women in the original production in 1950s)

i, a bi/pan self-proclaimed aspiring gambler who regularly sleeps at 6am for no reason, of course self-project a little too much on this character, especially cuz the guy is falling in love, like what am i supposed to do??? not project myself onto him?????

out of my 3 times of watching G&D, the first 2 times Sky was played by George Ioannides, and today was played by Pierce Rogan. they had vastly different interpretations and portrayals of Sky and i am so here for both of it. in fact i am so normal about this change

below are my interpretations of each of their portrayals of Sky Masterson, including A Lot of headcannons that i have for this character cuz not much about his (or anyone's) past is really mentioned in the show:

George Ioannides's Sky: i feel like this Sky is someone who realized he's into men as well as women, accepted and had no qualms with it, and is emotionally healthier because of it. emotionally healthier as in he doesn't repress his emotions or feelings, yes he dances with men so easily and flirts in the gay club like it's his second nature, but he also allows all his adoration and infatuation with Sarah to show. the love seeps from his eyes so easily, and he cannot stop looking because he is so in love. this probably has to do with the different actresses who played Sarah today and before, but either way it feels like George's Sky has more natural chemistry with Sarah and they're kinda made for each other. btw i love George Ioannides so much he's such a sexy sexy man with big puppy eyes, which helps with the expressing emotions through eyes cuz it just fits so well

Pierce Rogan's Sky: AAASSASASADHGFLKJASDHFLKJAHSDLFJK. this Sky is a man who knew he was into men from a very young age, and only realized he also likes women and might be bi/pan in his adult years. he is very emotionally repressed and probably has anxiety. in the gay club he looks so comfortable with being intimate with men, dancing, foreheads and noses fully touching, rolling hips. but with Sarah, he looks away sometimes and occasionally has facial expressions that say "in love but emotionally constipated", like honey what are you bottling up?? your feelings for Sarah, a woman? because you've spent so much time accepting the mlm part of you, and the discovery of you also liking women mayhap feels new and almost like a betrayal to the identity that you've built and come to terms with?? i said George's Sky has more natural chemistry with Sarah, but with Pierce's Sky, it feels like initially he really did rizz up Sarah purely out of a bet (which is what it was written to be). this Sky and Sarah just accidentally catch feelings, and Sky has A Time trying to come to terms with that, and they have to put in effort (on their own selves) and eventually make it work. Pierce Rogan i love you i owe you my life thank you so much

also!! apart from how Sky is portrayed, the ways that Sarah interacted with Sky were also different. with George's Sky, Sarah (played by Charlotte Scott) mostly exudes "i can change him" energy, and Sky is kinda like "ah fine whatever, i love you enough to be changed in good ways". whereas Pierce's Sky feels way less willing to change, whether for Sarah (played by Gina Beck) or anyone/anything. he approaches Sarah with caution, finds out that (drunk) Sarah is crazy, not only wants his freak but actively ups herself to match it. in a way this version makes the ending scene where Sarah publicly calls Sky "Obediah" (his real name which he's only told Sarah about) much more,, comfortable to watch?? i guess?? calling George's Sky "Obediah" feels like "aha i have successfully changed him, as shown by how i'm calling him rn", and Sky is lowkey exasperated but tolerates it. BUT calling Pierce's Sky "Obediah" feels more like an inside joke and a nickname for her lover, like "it's a secret that he entrusted me, and now i throw it around jokingly, maybe partially to say that he's mine hehehe", and Sky lowkey likes it

ANYWAY i love both versions of Sky Masterson. both George and Pierce are absolutely amazingly phenomenal, and i thoroughly enjoyed both of their performances. and most of what i said above are kinda just my hcs and interpretations of their portrayals. BUT YEA um Sky Masterson is such a kin character to me and today's experience was so personal, so lifechanging, and i desperately need someone to say that they understand so i don't feel as insane as i probably am

[thegreatyin]

this nemesis ambition started out a little slow but I am getting closer to finding that bastard who killed my wife, and I’ll not rest a minute now that im far closer to on his trail

sorry got in character for a second

Anyways fun ambition so far very fucked up though

congratulations on joining the murder club anon!!!! depending on who you ask the name refers to either people who have murdered or people who have witnessed murder. usually both. actually extremely often both. it's a swell time you'll feel right at home (don't mind our collective skyglass knife collection in the back)

[hadsephone]

OBC COMING TO LONDON?!

[astranauticus]

Rolling With Difficulty as texts I have saved on my computer for some reason

(i drew every day for like a month straight and burnt out so have this nonsense instead)

[maskofenigma]

another fallen london essay ramble whoo boy (i dont plan these btw) (spoilers for firmament and light fingers in particular plus general spoilers)

ok so do yall remember that one line in Firmament Chapter three where Summer drinks moon milk and looks directly at the player character and nothing happens? if not i get it, that section was pretty hard to follow and it was ultimately inconsequential and also optional so here it is

(from the fallen london wiki - Suggest Summer do it instead)

anyone whos played Light Fingers or is familiar with that plotline knows that this makes zero sense. even normal moon milk has extreme effect if ingested. and unless we're going to have some kind of toxic romance arc with Summer (which would be great but given the lack of foreshadowing and other aforementioned reasons is highly unlikely) we can chalk this up to sloppy writing and unfamiliarity with that ambition on whoever wrote this. such frustration seems to be the consensus on this chapter, at least on here

But! ive been following some liveblogging of early Light Fingers, reminiscing etc etc, when i remembered one other odd tie in to moon milk, in the cave of the nadir. now analyzing the nadir is similarly difficult to zenith because its very vauge and theres a lot of disconnected elements in there all in service of making a place thats confusing and dangerous and unknowable and whatever so take this with a grain of zalt. im sure theres some juicy deeplore in there but what i want to focus on is this

(from the fallen london wiki - "It was the milk... it was the milk, wasn't it?")

this is a weird callout, right? afaik thats one of the very few connections to an ambition in the nadir, alongside whatever the frost moth does in nemesis (havent gotten there yet). so like what gives? its not an especially rewarding action, and it doesnt progress the ambition or anything. its possible, given this comes after the orphanage section, that these two are like escapees of the orphanage after the fire / riot, but it could also be some disconnected memory its all very difficult to discern. and even if that is the case it doesnt really tell us much except maybe foreshadowing for Hephesta's situation. the best i can say is that, taken in context with the other options on that card, maybe its a parallel to Clarabelle's situation, with the references to eggs? there has to be some reason behind this reference, and if there isnt one, than at least let me headcanon this

i think the two instances above tell us very little on their own, but taken in together have fascinating implications. irrigo and violant are thematically opposed colors, forgetting vs remembering, and zenith / the nadir are explicitly connected both textually and in their names (zenith means the highest point of a space or object, nadir means the lowest), so that they both reference moon milk is interesting to say the least. I think this could be telling us that moon milk has different effects when under these two neathbow colors. Moon milk induced obsession seems to be resistant to the psyche destroying affects of the nadir, persisting for the two people in a place where memory is actively unravelled. the woman, even as she tells her companion to forget her, still clearly recalls the affect of the moon milk and her newfound obsessions. maybe this is somehow due to the milk's affect of overwhelming the victims previous life, in essence forcing them to forget what was previously important to them. or maybe, given irrigo's connection with lack of perception and drawing inward, the idea is that when the victim has nothing else to cling to in the nadir, the love instilled by the moon milk persists as a sort of internal source of comfort. in zenith, the violant light seems to dull or entirely nullify the milk's effects if that moment with Summer is to be believed. its stated that the violant forces the player character to be aware of every detail at once, able to perceive even distant objects with total clarity, splitting your attention everywhere at once. the way moon milk works is just an extreme version of a classic love potion: a victim falls deeply in love specifically with the first thing they see. maybe, because one perceives everything at the same time, the moon milk cannot properly take effect. or maybe the violant is just too oppressive, preventing the milk from occupying a victims thoughts as they are overwhelmed by the light.

whatever the case may be this is a very odd pairing. for a section so filled with moon misers, firmament has very little by way of references to Light Fingers, odd given thats one of the main places one would encounter a moon miser. no comment. and that moment in the nadir has always struck me as peculiar, if only for it being seemingly out of nowhere and disconnected to everything else. but moon misers are linked to apocyanic light with some degree of regularity, so i dont think its too great a stretch to connect them to other neathbow colors as well. one wonders how everyones favorite roof beetles might be affected by the other colors of the neath. even if im totally off base and disproven by some text in the high sancta or sunless skies or whatever there has to be something here im sure of it. or maybe ive lost it who knows certainly not me okay bye

[floridagirlsmustdie]

possibly my most self-indulgent oc yet & guess what. she’s for obey me

[arsenicflame]

anyway! officially booked both the time off and the hotel to go to london for my birthday. this will be nice

[ofcowardiceandkings]

wanting to do art around a song but not knowing how to go about it is currently the bane of my existence

[ntwhlvndthnks]

been having marco li wilson thoughts lately...just sooooooooo many marco li wilson thoughts

[wavesoutbeingtossed]

I’m absolutely not a proponent whatsoever of the take that a certain someone kept Taylor locked away for years in London, but I do have to think that one of the added bonuses of her now being back to being based full-time in the US is that she gets to see her extended family more often, especially when she now spends most weekends in the Midwest near them (loooool thanks killatrav)

[widowshill]

it's v funny to me that roger has been in london long enough that his sister died and came back to life again and he still has no idea.

[dogbunni]

if I have been a little quiet this past week that is bc life is swinging a giant cartoon mallet at my head and cackling like the joker experiencing the adrenaline rush of batman driving the batmobile towards him at 120mph. thank you

[reijndeers]

londoned too close to the sun and now i don't know how to take a train

[exopelagic]

talking to him more very much achieved. we just talked for like 4 hours in the kitchen holy shit I need to sleep