#IPKKND was that with regards to Lavanya
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On gold-diggers
So if you watch any amount of Indian tv at all, then you are familiar with a common belief in the world of rich people of ITV (and IRL as well of course, this is how audiences think too), that poor women are always on the make, looking to trap rich husbands for a better life, the double edged sword of the term "gold-digger". I uhhhh rambled a bit on this topic.
The idea of the "gold-digger" is so ingrained that we all instantly understand the negative power of it. We may object with horror and anger when the asshole hero, or his backwards family levy this charge against our beloved female lead; but we, the very same audience won't hesitate to turn around and levy the very same charge against the "vamp" character; the girl in tight clothes who drinks alcohol and *gasp* has no sanskaars - like clearly, SHE is in it for the money, otherwise why would she put up with such a toxic boyfriend?
(like of course it cannot be that the vampy girl is sticking around for the same reason that WE the audience are falling for this toxic male lead despite knowing how much he sucks - it cannot be that she finds him hot & values his good qualities & as for the bad qualities, he's just a traumatized lil baby, i can fix him! - no, that can't be it, because then it feels uncomfortably close to relating to the vamp, and that cannot happen, of course!)
no, she, the vamp, only loves his good looks and his money and his hotness, she doesn't love his "true" self at all, she's a GOLD DIGGER!!! we revel in the power of the gold-digger charge, and how it humiliates her.
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what inspired this rant? i had an intense argument with someone on another platform, about Lavanya's character (from IPKKND). this person insisted that Lavanya was a gold-digger who never loved Arnav. But La is rich, I argued. So what, she said. Even if she is rich, she isn't as rich as Arnav. Arnav is 10000 crore guy, Lavanya is just 1000 crore girl. A gold-digger. She just wanted him because he was a "catch" while Khushi wants him for his true inner self. But La put up with his family for his sake, I argued. She did so much to please him. Well, this person said. That's the proof. Lavanya tolerated all of Arnav's and his family's BS without objection, hence, she MUST be a gold-digger. didn't I know? rich men are always targets of "girls like Lavanya". of gold-diggers. she kept using that word over and over again for Lavanya, probably because by then she had realized how much it was pissing me off. (what can I say? i can definitely be an easy target for trolling at times).
internalized misogyny often goes like - most women are sluts/stupid/useless/greedy schemers/<insert other sexist tropes>, but I - I will prove myself worthy of men's affections by being not <sexist trope>, then maybe I won't suffer the negative consequences those other women do!
and yes, I speak from personal experience. what woman HASN'T harboured deeply toxic thoughts borne out of internalized misogyny at least once in her life? we live in society, how do we escape it's influences?
and caught in these confusions, when we read stories, we project.
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there are, of course, real life cases where there are women who (to quote Amy March) look upon marriage as an economic proposition and make matches based on financial gains. the horror!
of course, that its both men and women, who make decisions about marriage/love based on money, doesn't cross often our minds when we think about gold-diggers. that in desi society at least, majority of marriages ARE economic propositions involving heavy financial transactions, is not at all the same topic. because those transactions are done by the elders; by the men in power, and their enablers. those are transactions that keep society running in its status quo. the horror! the gold-digging horror of it comes in, when its a woman by her own volition seeking to better her financial status as easily as she possibly can, without making any sacrifice or compromise! how dare she? how dare! doesn't she know the tax of living for a woman is sacrifice. you can't pass go without it.
and the OTHER much much larger parts of reality definitely don't exist while people are busy labelling women as gold-diggers. the parts where the leading cause of sudden death for women is murder at the hands of an intimate partner, where 3 out of 10 women have been abused by a partner (and this is just reported stats - who knows what the real figure is). And what about the reality where one of the key aspects of an abusive relationship is financial abuse & power imbalance due to the victim having no resources.
in India, especially, the sad, sorry, disturbing TRUTH is, justice is a monetary transaction. the richer you are, the more you can get away, especially in the matter of women, since as a society we are ever-ready to disbelieve women.
this is also why in this reality we live in, many girls families themselves INSIST on paying dowry - on sending more and more gifts even after marriage - because you know what they're buying? no, not merely a "respectable" husband for their daughter. what they are paying for is the safety, respect, and dignity of their daughter in her married family and their own "standing" in society. its a grand and most successful blackmail scheme; because everybody knows, the girl who brings nothing to her husband's house, is fair game for every other type of exploitation. she's got to pay her dues somehow.
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so. when a poor girl marries a rich guy, it might seem like a fairytale on the outside. it might seem like, its every poor girl's dream. but in REALITY, what it is, is the girl signing up for a statistically much higher risk of being abused, raped, and murdered. not a dream so much as a nightmare.
yet, its always the woman's character that is on trial - SHE has to prove that she isn't a greedy schemer out for his money but a pure hearted girl genuinely in love - while all HE has to do, is stand there and be hot and rich; he never has to prove that he won't abuse her. heck, he will provide categorical proof of being a future abuser, and its absolutely no stumble in a romance path. the power of the word gold-digger is always hanging on her head; the hero as well as the audience, her lover and society, ever eagerly searching to judge her for the same; a little slip, and she could be in vamp territory!
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I tend to be...passionate...about my fictional people opinions. I have definitely heard "its just a story" many times in my life. But I disagree.
These conversations we have about fictional characters are reflections of our realities. And these are Indian daily soaps, not grimdark crazy premise sci-fic/fantasy HBO shows. The same court in which we judge fictional characters, also becomes a court in which we judge real people around us. This is the power of stories, the danger of them - they can reiterate the worst that is in us, reinforce our worst selves; or they can open us up to new perspectives and expand our empathy.
i mean we have seen SO MANY iterations of the angry anti-hero young man, embodying every trope of toxic masculinity, and then turning out to be a perfect husband at the end. character development and taming the beast. alls well that ends well. men can be fixed. sometimes love looks like hate. etc.
i long for a story where we see a heroine who IS a "gold digger"; who is practical, realistic, and smart, who has a career and ambitions but maybe has tasted too much of poverty to ever choose it for herself if given an option. who chooses and chases a guy because the thing that matters to her is financial security and an easy life. why does this girl always have to be the villain? if abusers can reform, why not gold-diggers? why can't SHE be hit with a character development stick, in the same general standard of dignity as a corresponding male lead, and learn some lessons and fall in love and become the best version of herself? and if she does get to do all that, why does she HAVE to be humiliated in some evil way, and/or die at the end, why can't she live, learn and have a happily ever after?
why, in fact, do we reserve so much passionate vitriol for the fictional female offenders - the vamps and the career girls and the ex girlfriends - the ones driven by jealousies and insecurities - while keeping infinite reserves of forgiveness for their male equivalents?
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No - Lavanya has to be a gold-digger, a hopeless harlot, for Khushi to be a perfect wife, for Arnav to be absolved of his sins against Lavanya as well as Khushi, for the audience to be in no danger of relating to a woman as evil and out of bounds as Lavanya, for us all to maintain our collective delusions that rich men are victims of those women, as opposed to being their predators.
EVEN in a show like IPKKND which went out of the way to have a different, ground-breaking narrative...there's this reading of the text. There's the cognitive dissonance to judge/hate Lavanya for certain traits while finding Arnav sexy for those same ones.
I don't think it is at all surprising that Indian tv can never seem to get over its madonna/whore complex - because honestly, we the audience, seem to enjoy it too much!
#this is a post inspired by an online argument so yeah its a ramble lol. i was angry but it also made me self-reflect.#when i was younger i have definitely internalized these attitudes#i've reacted from this place#of holding fictional female characters to much higher standards than male ones#because that is just#how we think in reality too#i like a story that challenges these ideas in a fun away#IPKKND was that with regards to Lavanya#IPKKND
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I am writing this highly controversial thoughts only because @featheredclover had recommended me a fanfic about khushi feeling left out during the basket ball game and then my thoughts went wayward. 😁 I haven't watched the last 33 episodes of ipkknd in a very long time, only some snippets of cute married arshi. But I did watch them 2 days ago just to validate the fact that whatever I think about them was what shown on the screen.All of my thoughts don't just exist in my mind.They also match the narrative too.
And I was right with my previous decision to not watch ipkknd past Arnav's birthday,those are horrible episodes.
Anyways, it's my thoughts on the suicide tract and sheetal tract and how khushi ignored the absolute truths that she knew by heart whenever she was hurt and tried to sheild herself from the pain.These tracks are khushi-centric, I just wished they were well written. My poor baby!!!
Suicide track
Khushi knew with absolute certainity that Arnav doesn't believe in God, she even said so.
So, why she came up with that excuse to justify committing suicide? It's this scene.
Arnav was talking to lavanya, there was no romantic vibes,but but but, he was talking to her very nicely . I am not trying to blame La or Arnav here, La deserved every bit of decency from Arnav because of the way he treated her.And just because he talked with her politely doesn't mean that he is developing feelings for her.Arnav had always shown as a character who was sure about his feelings. He was unsure about khushi not because he didn't know how he felt, it was more about him losing control and later their compatibility and his ego.But when khushi saw and hear him talking to her like that it's bound to hurt her. He didn't even talk to her anymore and when he did it was always mixed with vitriol & bitterness. Here her insecurities raised it's head, a doubt settled in. She was seeing a man talking to his ex-girlfriend nicely,who he was going to marry willingly and somehow broke up suddenly for a reason unknown to her.And here she had hoped based on their holi conversation that there was something between them and it would be alright with time when he would forget his pain that she knew nothing about and the six month timeline would never come,coz he had feeling for her right? But she was realizing that probably she assumed wrong, probably he didn't love her,probably he loved someone else and the marriage would end because why would he be with her if he loved someone else. And she didn't tell it but khushi couldn't live without Arnav too. And Arnav loving someone else was equivalent to death for her.
Thus her mind found out the bizarre idea to cope with the pain.I always thought why the showrunners spent so much time in showing how khushi hallucinating Arnav killing her in different method instead of spending time in significant moment? Like Arnav had softened down a little bit toward her, he was concerned about her, kept asking her family what's wrong with her, he brought a glass of milk to her because she didn't eat enough at dinner,wanted her to see a doctor. In a very long time the rajkumar was winning in battle against the rakhsak. The Love of a lover was overshadowing the love of a brother and son.
Sheetal track
Before going into the sheetal track I was just curious about the easy acceptance of Aarav in the raizada family and even to Arnav.That family was preparing to welcome a child in their house that never came. Subconsciously, they might all saw the unborn,lost child in Aarav.Because even mami was so open with the idea of spoiling Aarav. At this vulnerable time they even Arnav formed a bond with Arnav unknowningly.
And also in regards of Arnav, since he knew Anjali was pregnant, he was preparing himself to be the father-figure of that child. Normally, maternal uncles didn't think like that, but he thought right? He planned to throw Shyam out of shantivan after the child would safely be born.After that he would be taking care of the child.He was preparing himself mentally for that duty. He would have been anything the child needed him to be. So, he was already softened with the idea of being a guardian to a child.
And he also could relate to Aarav,as Arnav also missed his father in his childhood. And all of these khushi misunderstood as bond between a father and a son.
Then let's discuss khushi, just like suicide track, in sheetal track, she also know with absolute certainty that Arnav loved her, she herself said that 'he loved me more than himself' and she also knew that Arnav couldn't live without her.
Then why all through the sheetal track she was so afraid of Arnav leaving her? It wasn't Arnav she was afraid of, she was afraid of her own ideology that if this child came out as Arnav's, she had to leave him so that Arnav provide his parental duty toward the child and it's not just name or financial support, it also include a family, a complete family,consists of both parents and she didn't see herself in that family. And that's why she was almost irrational in her pursuit to find out if Aarav was Arnav's child.
And also that's why she was feeling so left out during that basketball game.Till that day,Arnav didn't talk to Sheetal at all,not really.And it was clear Arnav was passionate about basketball in his college days.And for someone who had a bad childhood, college life certainly was a safe heaven for him. College life was a time when he didn't fully adopted his ASR sheild and had a chance to be his most truest self without any past trauma and responsibilities. And being in a foreign land the 3 indian students clearly formed a good bond. And it was cleared by Arnav that he dated sheetal for a very brief time,so brief to form any physical relationship with her and even broke up with her immediately after graduation, clearly she wasn't important enough to try having a relationship post college. But they were friends before they started dating. Basketball was something they played as friends not as couple.During that basketball game that friendship came out and Arnav wasn't completely ignorant about khushi. He inquired about her after coming inside and asked her where did she disappeared after the game and why she made jalebies. He was teasing her to make her relax but khushi never shared anything with Arnav. And that friendship didn't mean anything to Arnav actually, it was just falling in rhymes with an old friend. And when Arnav realized khushi was upset,he even stop interacting with sheetal beyond polite conversation after that.The marriage and relationship stuff was new for both of them.He was not a mind-reader and khushi rarely expressed what was bothering her.On the other hand,khushi didn't know what to do with the overwhelming possessiveness and insecurities that were brewing inside her.
And I think khushi was not really worried about Arnav having a bonding during the game thinking that he might be developing feelings for her or already had feelings for her. When she started to be bothered with sheetal, it started with the doubt with Aarav's paternity and intensified with the knowledge of their past dating history. She just wanted some solid proof that something romantic between them would be impossible in the future so that even if Aarav was indeed Arnav's child, Aarav's mother won't come in between khushi and Arnav. Thus the banter in basketball game made her worried. She was worried about the fact that if Aarav was proved to be Arnav's son, the family she wanted Arnav to give Aarav would be possible, because clearly Arnav and sheetal could have a relationship again for Aarav's sake.
And that's exactly she end up doing. After finding out Aarav was Arnav's, she attempted to leave Arnav so that he could give Aarav a complete family but she was in a way selfish herself too, she left the person she knew couldn't live without her because she couldn't bear the pain of seeing him with anyone else. She forgot all her promises, even promises she made mere few hours ago, just to escape the pain.She left before Arnav had a chance to leave her or tell her to leave. That's why when Arnav got hold of her insecurities he told her 'Arnav aur khushi hamesha saath rehenge' to assure her.
And khushi learnt a special lesson that night.What did loving really mean? Being there when all is fine? or being there no matter what? especially when nothing is fine. After realizing that khushi stood beside Arnav keeping aside her fear.She also learnt what did loving Arnav really mean, that tough guy needed someone to love him as he was and not to abandon him again like his mother did.
And the thing about knowing all the stuff about Arnav that sheetal knew but Khushi didn't. Doesn't that knowledge come with time,with living with the person,one learn new things about their partners everyday, but end of the day,these are all general knowledge, khushi knew the real Arnav,what he valued,what he feared.She helped him brought out the Arnav that he buried under the ASR mask.It wasn't sheetal that brought out the Arnav that played basketball and played drums.No it was khushi, khushi gave him the confidence to be his true self in the middle of his past trauma and responsibilities not in isolation.
I have watched that game very carefully without any bias.The moment that khushi was watching so carefully when Arnav and sheetal was about to collide, sheetal was so aggressive, Arnav was looking at her with a WTF face, I don't know about anyone,but I found it funny. If Khushi actually focused on participating in the game instead of being so worried, she would had noticed how easily Arnav gave the ball up to khushi or the smile he gave her when she was up against him. 😊
I was thinking about the formation of sheetal track similar with the contact marriage track, where in sheetal track khushi did the same thing that Arnav did to khushi during contract marriage track. Here I came to a horrifying theory how the sheetal track could have gone terribly wrong if not the show ended when it ended. We might see a forced marriage or almost a forced marriage again but between Arnav and sheetal, on khushi's request as Arnav was doing everything khushi requested him to do.I am thankful that we didn't have to see that kind of plot and it ended where it ended.
And that also tied around the question of redemption on khushi's side in sheetal track and on Arnav's side in contact marriage track.Khushi forgave Arnav instantly for every hurt he done and similarly Arnav also forgave khushi instantly as they both understand and love each other beyond anything else,a bond beyond anything else, stronger than anything else. A bond stronger & powerful than any bond Arnav could have made by playing basketball and playing drums.
My Scattered thoughts (13/?)
#ipkknd#iss pyaar ko kya naam doon#arnav singh raizada#khushi kumari gupta#arshi#my scattered thoughts
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hi, jalebi, hope life is treating you well.I watched your interview with Utkarsh Naithani,it was absolute delight and kind if a tutorial class of story-writting.keep it up and waiting for many more interviews like that.And I got to see your face too😍,which was a sight for sore eyes.
I want your absolute opinion on the fact that do you think that the introduction of kidnapping tract had disrupted the flow of IPKKND and kind of destroyed what the writters had previously had in mind?
thank you.
Thank you so much for the sweet comment <3 Uff, you and your taareef.
Now, regarding to your question;
do you think that the introduction of kidnapping tract had disrupted the flow of IPKKND and kind of destroyed what the writters had previously had in mind?
To be very honest, the introduction of the kidnapping track brought the show back on track - for me. The show started addressing everything that was needed. The circumstance of the marriage. The fact that Arnav wouldn't believe Khushi. The fact that the situation was against Khushi. And that Shyam was upto something, he would take revenge against Arnav.
All the characters and situations were put on a RUDE pause from the end of Holi until the terrace scene (which worked into the kidnapping).
I have, legit, NO idea what the writers had in mind. Because the writers were writing aimless comedy, forgot the weight of the situation. And the months from Holi to Arnav leaving for London had absolutely little sense. It raised FAR too many questions, character rewrites, motivation rewrites, than anything else.
I believe, given the situation Arnav and Khushi was in - nothing would've been able to shift them away from bitterness apart from the fact that they loved each other UNTIL it was, literally, a matter of life and death between the characters.
We got back the telepathy, the hurt. Khushi is no longer a stupid woman trying to get back at the man who holds the reins of her sister's marriage in his hand by annoying him? (WTF was that logic)
Rather she's back to being the intelligent, hurt woman, who painfully knows that if things were fine - he'd never say he loved her.
So what went wrong with the show is not the kidnapping track but how they showed the investigation.
I laughed at them forgetting Khushi is a Raizada. If, let's say Manish Malhotra's relative goes to the police fearing Manish Malhotra's safety. The police is not going to laugh at it. We know how the police treat the elite class. Remember how upon Lavanya Kashyap's (who is not even a Raizada) phone call the police had arrived at Shantivan personally to do an employment check?
Which by the the police don't have to carry out by themselves. Employees submit themselves and police verifies the history and fingerprints. But just because the house was Shantivan - they were ready to do basic duty. Secondly, not everyone in Delhi can just gently hold Delhi Police's hand and escort them out of the house.
Arnav Singh Raizada can.
So, the kidnapping, Khushi's intuition and disbelief over Arnav's confession, her constant panic and the family sending her to Lucknow and even she and Mami getting suspicious of Arnav reaching London or not were BRILLIANTLY done.
And even with Arnav, right. Forced upon this horrific situation he is stripped of his prejudices, fears and doubt. He loves her. She feels strongly for him (she nearly confessed before he left). She wanted his trust.
It was a great way to reset the dynamic between the two.
And FINALLY Shyam is doing something as a villain. He wants everything Arnav owns, everything Arnav has. It starts with his assets and ends with Khushi.
Also Khushi knows Shyam is enough of a horrid man to actually pull something like this off? She's suspicious of him from the START. And we see her dealing with her abuser and the threat of Shyam being under the roof as her.
What went wrong is in the execution of second half of kidnapping track:
Arnav's LIFE is at stake. Just why has she NOT confided in Akash? He's right THERE. Why not in Payal? Just how is the 'ghar ki shanti' more important than the life of the head of the household?
What was the whole stupid James Bond thing with Manorama?
WHY WAS NO ONE UNDERSTANDING THAT A RAIZADA WAS SEEKING HELP?
What was the stupid "let's honeytrap Shyam" plan?
Just why were they doing Tom and Jerry stuffs to trap Shyam?
In short, why did the intelligence just disappear in the execution of this track?
WHY DO BABLI AND MASALA MAMA EXIST? (Honestly, I felt if Akash and Payal had a more relevant, important track the kidnapping track could have felt better than this demon child cause EVERYONE loved Akash Payal).
Actually introduced a really good cameo of a private detective/police inspector who would work in private sensing a bigger threat.
Either way, I have far less issues with the stupid kidnapping track because I got Arnav and Khushi back, and I got Shyam back. The three wheels of the story, their characterization, their plots, were on track.
And this is my absolute opinion of the kidnapping track.
Best,
Jalebi
#ask#hand-picked-star#jalebi's most honest take#I LOVED THE KIDNAPPING TRACK#the idea and introduction of it#they just had the worst execution#cause they got angst back???#but CCTV of Indira Gandhi Int'l Airport is not stored in VHS ffs
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▪︎ IPKKND Ep 129 : A dangerous game that gone too far
> Her denying his touch, him breaking her heart : desperation turned into obsession
[Ep22-129]
Nothing changed since the red-sari moment in his heart. He can still tell she's the one.
The differences are that this time, Khushi knows what she feels for him. He's the only one she loves. And Arnav has no intention to walk away from her anymore. He wants to marry her.
[Ep37-129]
But just like the day he was willing to come closer to her, she denied his touch. And just like that day, he feels rejected but this time he knows she feels for him. So instead of walking away out of incertainty, he will keep pushing her to confess.
"After all, you have done so much for me and Lavanya, if not as a gift, then consider it as a tip and take it" Khushi understands that he wants her to confess. But she doesn't understand why. "Are you cruel enough to want me to confess that you can still hold such importance in my heart while knowing you love someone else? Why? Why are you doing this? Is this just a game for you? "
We need to understand that the intrusive and pressing behavior of Arnav is provoked cause he knows that he is in a hurry. He announced his engagement within a week. He must do everything so that she confesses so that he can stop everything, but only after having the confirmation of her feelings for him with words.
Khushi once again feels humiliated at Arnav's remarks regarding her poverty, as she should ! Dude is being so toxic in this episode ...
He does it only to gets his revenge for hurting him when she moved away from his caress, from his attempt to get closer to her.
"You're right. This dress is not that bad. But it's not that beautiful too!" "You're right, money is good. But it's not that great compare to having your heart. I don't want your gift. I want your love."
It's only here that Arnav has been triggering Khushi complexes so badly. And it's only at this moment that he realizes how he was breaking her heart while trying so hard to push her to confess her feelings.
This is where the line between obsession and love is drawned in my opinion. This is what makes Arnav different from his father. This is what makes the difference between Arnav and Shyam (I mean they're many lol but I'm sure you know what I meant). Arnav may k*ll himself if he loses Khushi, but he will never ever let her d*e because of him.
Obsession won't let you stop even when you see how much you're destroying the other person's soul. Love makes you stop.
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hello! rereading your ipkknd analysis again and its been such a pleasure! really thanks for putting it so brilliantly (literally a cure for my depression)
i was wondering if you knew what arnav meant in ep 87 when he says that hes much better and more honest than her when khushi persuades him to go back to lavanya. i might be missing a piece but why was he asking her to be truthful ?? and about what? surely its not yet time for faraq padta hai phase so what was he expecting of her when he said those words? let me know your thoughts on this and sorry if you have it answered already. thanks!
Heyyyy :)
Thanks for the compliment, you’re way too kind!! I’m super glad you like the recaps!
I think his meaning is twofold.
The first is that, at this stage of their relationship, Arnav has difficulty believing in Khushi’s goodness. To him, people who act the way she does are only pretending to be nice -- there’s always something hidden underneath. In short, he believes people are inherently selfish and Khushi’s ~relentless selflessness~ must be an act. And he’s not entirely ... wrong.
Khushi can be extremely insensitive and thoughtless in her pursuit of some imagined greater good, and she believes that intent outweighs consequences in all circumstances. Arnav was right. She had absolutely no right to interfere in his personal life to the extent of dressing Lavanya as a bride. And it wasn’t even the first time she’d done it: she’d gossiped about Lavanya to Nani in the first place. She continued doing it by writing a letter and lying to him that it was from Lavanya, and then showing up at his place of work. These are not things that nice people do. Khushi’s unhealthy disrespect of boundaries, her manipulation, and her holier than thou attitude would, absolutely, strike Arnav as false given that he’s so often hurt by her.
The second is that he’s confused, mostly because Khushi is giving him mixed signals. He knows he’s sexually attracted to her. A part of him wants to explore that connection. Although Khushi’s behaviour suggests that she feels the same -- her physical reactions, her often undisguised jealousy of Lavanya -- she’s also dressing Lavanya up as his bride and then doing everything she can to keep them together. Khushi has this way of almost completely separating her friendship with Lavanya from Lavanya’s relationship with Arnav -- treating the two things as completely unrelated unless she’s (uncomfortably) reminded that she has feelings for her friend’s boyfriend. But this disassociation causes Arnav a lot of grief because, to him, it looks like she’s (at best) denying her feelings or (at worst) pretending to be friends with Lavanya while stringing him along.
Everyone in his life tells him how kind and thoughtful Khushi is while falling over themselves to absolve her of all responsibility for her actions. He sees an entirely different aspect of her.
Arnav thinks he’s better than her because he doesn’t pretend to be anything other than what he is, but to him, Khushi is all pretence.
He wants her to be honest with herself because he can’t work out whether she’s playing him or simply lying to herself regarding her feelings for him but he’s angry and hurt by it either way.
Thanks for asking!
#ipkknd#iss pyaar ko kya naam doon#arshi#arnav singh raizada#khushi kumari gupta#episode 087#episode 086#anon ask#answered#analysis#greatest hits
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IPKKND Airs Today Starplus Khushi Arnav New Episode
IPKKND Airs Today Starplus Khushi Arnav New Episode Lavanya makes a stormy entry in Arnav’s life. Nani overhears Arnav and Anjali’s talk regarding Lavanya. She wants to know who is Lavanya. Lavanya tells Arnav that she has got a surprise for him. She expresses her liking for him. Khushi fails to produce the appointment letter. […]
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Hey Jalebi. How are you? I discovered your blog last year while rewatching IPKKND. Your and Phati-Sari's blogs are my favorite. Both of your blogs were really helpful in clearing some of my confusions that I always had regarding the show.
As you recently answered a question regarding Lavanya. I wanted to ask you a question about Lavanya's track. You don't have to answer if you have already answered it before. I couldn't find anything regarding this in the blog so I am asking. I recently re watched those episode where La n Arnav had their first break up and then he brought her back. I couldn't understand what Arnav was thinking bringing her back to his house. Cause from their previous argument it was obvious their relationship has changed. Even though when they started the relationship they were both on the same page. Now they both want different things from the relationship. Lavanya wouldn't have settled for anything less than marriage and Arnav wouldn't marry her. So they did the right thing by breaking up. But when he brought her back, I am sure it only raised La's hope and his family's too. La and his family thought that he must have changed his decision about marraige. But that wasn't the case. His and Lavanya's relationship was stuck in a loop, there was no going forward unless he wants to marry her. So why did he even brought her back when he clearly wasn't thinking about marraige? What was he planning to do exactly?
Btw I am glad to find someone who has same opinion as me about BD. I thought I was the only one who didn't enjoy the show. It's really sad though because I loved Barun n Ridhi in Asur and was really excited to watch them in a romantic show. But I felt they had more chemistry in Asur than this show. How did you find Kohrra?
Hello Anon!
Thank you for the love <3 <3 <3
Regarding Arnav and Lavanya; Arnav brought her back for two reasons - for Khushi and his family. The wonderful thing about IPK is that it's never direct, it's not going to spoon-feed you what every character is feeling so the audience gets a lot of room to interpret everything.
In my opinion, bringing back La showed Khushi that Arnav does have a heart
and his family was distressed without La. Apart from Nani - whose opinion Arnav doesn't really care about - everyone loves La and Arnav is actually content seeing his family at piece as now La and his family have become a unit.
Anjali comes up to Arnav and tells him one thing - "I'm so happy you did this Chote," and that means everything for Arnav - his Di's happiness.
But he is incredibly conflicted with Khushi's tears because he did what she wanted and she's still hurt, and yes - Arnav and La's relationship had irreparable damage and you can see from this point onwards Arnav has no commitment - nothing - towards La. Also this is the point where he actively begins to emotionally cheat on her.
He's more concerned about Khushi, his world starts revolving around her. La just doesn't exist. Up until this point La was an active person in his life. Even in their argument they're fighting like a couple and post the breakup everything disappears between Arnav and La.
They don't talk. They don't fight. They don't laugh... nothing.
And Lavanya panics, she knows everything has changed - she panics further when Khushi decides to leave because Khushi being here is a reminder that Lavanya is being 'groomed' to be a bahu - without Khushi, La needs to face the reality of being a part of this family without a buffer and actually being Mrs. Arnav Singh Raizada. Which is a cold, empty identity of being a man's wife who is invested in... nothing.
But still, love makes one choose the worst decisions and she decided to still come back because at least she's in Arnav's house. It's a sad decision.
For Arnav, marriage with Lavanya is a practical decision and it would've ultimately been that. Lavanya truly loves the family and vice versa (he's genuinely happy seeing both parties care for each other) and it puts Nani away from his back and Lavanya is someone who understands Arnav (even though he no longer understands himself).
So it's a perfect compromise (he doesn't realize how shitty he is as a partner until it's too late - he jolts into reality when during Satyanarayan Puja La was happy because he didn't yell at her and it's a slap on his face on wtf is he as a partner).
And yeah, Kohrra was fab! Just really some solid storytelling tbh.
Best,
Jalebi
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▪︎ IPKKND Ep 61 : Khushi's self respect
"I don't want to earn money by keeping my self respect on line." This line is very sad, it gets me emotional everytime I rewatch ipkknd.
Let me try to explain what I think is her point of view when it comes to the self respect being torned.
Khushi thinks Arnav really has a terrible opinion of her to the point of feeling ashame of herself. But I do think, she also feel ashamed for not be able to be financially efficient. She can feel the distance between Arnav and her, the big gap that separate their worlds. In my opinion, she truly believes she's not worthy of him at this point (when she was fighting with him to prove him she was worthy, she was trying to convince herself too). And it breaks her heart somehow (even if she's not fully conscious of it, she can sense the heartbreak in her) cause she started to fall in love with him, just like he did. She would rather deny what she really feels than have to endure the deep pain. Here, the pain would be to realize that she fell in love with a man for whom she is worth nothing, who despises her and her way of being, her lifestyle and her social status.
They are asking her to help Arnav's girlfriend secure her position in their family. They are asking her to push even more Lavanya into the arms of the man she has feelings for. How cruel ha? But of course, they have no idea of the serious feeling they have toward each other.
Anjali's action really disgusted me for the first time through this episode. She literally blackmailed her with the contract Khushi made with Arnav after precisely hearing Khushi talking about her self respect ... 😕
I know she was scared because her family was about to explode but Anjali really disrespected Khushi here. It was so humiliating. I myself felt betrayed (yuuup i'm inserting myself lol 😂😭). This is the first time we get to see the dark side of Anjali. Yes, she also has a dark side, being the result of her trauma.
You can see Khushi's huge disapointment in her, she though Anjali could be someone who regards her without any social discrimination or misconception, since she's always been kind to her :
"So she is also doing this to me? right, after all so much money, so much power can really make anyone this insensitive to another human being' struggle? Anjali isn't someone bad, but look at her, look at her walking over my right to say no ... Why am I so worthless to these people ... Why am I so worthless, god tell me why, what have I done to deserve this?"
You can see Khushi's aunt and sister (even manie was suprised) being also very hurt by Anjali's behavior !
My heart was aching soooo bad during this scene, Sanaya Irani has this beautiful way of portraying sincerity thorugh her eyes, there is no complexity in it, you can feel the pain, the shame so easily !
And precisely, since her character is in denial, I feel like she's doing a very good job in highliting how her emotions are getting hard to control, cause her heart and body always try to show her the reality of everything she denies.
" -Is there anyone else? -No … no one else. "
When Lavanaya asked Arnav who was the most important person after his sister in his heart, he said no one but he was thinking about Khushi. This is, I think another clue the writers gave us to secure our understanding of his feelings for her.
She is already very important to him, she's the only woman who can enter his heart and his mind, he knows it, but decided to ignore that fact.
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Part-1 hi phati sari!!! First of all i want to give u a big virtual hug for ur latest update of charade. It made my whole month!! I had a shitty month and was generally mopping around all depressed but i literally jumped and did a happy dance (yes i am the one who commented on ur wattpad story vidhisanghpal). After reading ur update i had one question but i thought tgis place is better to ask question so i didn't bother u on wattpad. This is gonna be long so i am writing part 2
Part-2. Hey vidhi again. So basically i really liked the way u wrote the intimate scene b/w arnav and khushi it was practically khushi discovering her own sexuallity and arnav giving pleasure to khushi. As arnav had to “take a shower” and also commented that khushi seems to not know anything about his condition. I have a question that does khushi really dont know anything abt sex. I am what do u think in cannon who innocent in this context khushi was?? Part 3 coming upPart 3. As a millennial and having full access to internet. I cant really relate to small town environment where khushi grew up well i wont say lucknow is a small town but u gwt the giat right. So what do u think khushi would have at least gotten some sex education in her school or even from her mom or something. I dont know if u will answer to this as it is my first ask. Anyway i am sure u r having a wonderful day as i am sure u will be showered with love for ur update. Part 4 coming!!Part 4. Dont be alarmed. I am not crazzy. This part is only for ur praises 😅. I want u to know that i wait for ur updates on charade and tubler with same intensity and enthusiasm that i wait for GOT season 8 😁. And this is the highest level compliment i can give to anyone❤. I love reading and IPKKND has been my go to serial when i am feeling down and when i stumbled upon ur tumbler i was so happy to know that so many people share my passion for IPKKND. I love charade and all ur work!! ❤❤😍😘
Hello Vidhi :)
First of all i want to give u a big virtual hug for ur latest update of charade. It made my whole month!! I had a shitty month and was generally mopping around all depressed but i literally jumped and did a happy dance
You’re welcome! Thank you very much for reading, and for commenting both on Wattpad and here.
I have a question that does khushi really dont know anything abt sex. I am what do u think in cannon who innocent in this context khushi was??
Canonically, we know her knowledge about these things is lacking. She dressed Lavanya as Arnav’s bride, set her on his bed, then hid in the bathroom to peeked out. This is not a woman who knows what happens on a Suhaag Raat.
Her conclusion that her lust was acidity and dhak-dhak also showcased how little she understood about this.
So what do u think khushi would have at least gotten some sex education in her school or even from her mom or something.
It would’ve been offered at her high school. Definitely. But there is a huge difference between knowing about reproduction and knowing about pleasure. She might know the “insert Part A into Part B” aspects of sex, but she doesn’t seem to know about passion.
Plus, the character I saw in the serial wouldn’t be inclined to find out. It’s not so much about lack of access (though I’d say she didn’t have internet connectivity until she moved into Shantivan), but rather a sense of what is proper and right. Khushi has some pretty screwed up views on morality that make her insufferably judgemental in the beginning of the serial.
In my stories, I tend to set her level of understanding regarding lust according to what the piece needs. Secret Romance explored the experiences of a woman who is left to her own devices, as happens too often in our culture. In Veritas she’s so terrified that it’s a one-time thing that she buries all her fears and doubts. In Touch she knows what’s missing in their relationship and practically begs for it.
In Charade, she is aware of her lust, aware of the things she wants and needs, but hasn’t really thought about him. She knows his body reacts in a certain way and isn’t afraid of it but hasn’t realised that he needs more proactive support in that arena.
I’ve talked extensively about the serial’s depiction of Khushi’s lust here.
I want u to know that i wait for ur updates on charade and tubler with same intensity and enthusiasm that i wait for GOT season 8 😁. And this is the highest level compliment i can give to anyone❤. I love reading and IPKKND has been my go to serial when i am feeling down and when i stumbled upon ur tumbler i was so happy to know that so many people share my passion for IPKKND. I love charade and all ur work!! ❤❤😍😘
Thank you very much! I don’t think I’ve ever been compared to GOT before, that’s extremely flattering!
IPKKND is also my happy place, I’m very glad to have established a small corner of the internet where I can share this feeling with like-minded people! Thank you for reading, and for leaving such detailed and kind messages both here and on Wattpad.
#ipkknd#iss pyaar ko kya naam doon#arnav singh raizada#khushi kumari gupta#arshi#analysis#anon ask#answered#ff: charade
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