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why did they bring back the “haha moxxie’s fat” joke that wasn’t even funny the first time
#helluva boss#helluva moxxie#like??? he’s hardly what anyone would consider fat#and even if he was ew#fatphobia isn’t funny#ig next to the waspwaisted cast around him he and his wife might be considered plus sized#but just no#I’m not a helluva boss fan so I’m not gonna bother posting anything else about this episode#but it’s a lot better than other episodes#wish millie got ANY fleshing out for her character
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Why Did I Have To Find A Toxic Anti-Helluva Boss Post... And My Thoughts On Verosika’s Posse And Other Stuff....
[Note: Please Don’t Reblog This Post.........and Reading This Post Is Optional.....I also want to say that this post will have the tags “Not For Kids” and “Mature Audience Only”, also this will mention misanthropy...also if you support some Toxic Anti-Helluva Boss Humans, just...don’t bother even reading this and just go and check something else out....it’s fine if some just ignore this post and wait for a theory post about either a show or video game or movie...]
seriously, it’s bad enough what went on Archive Of Our Own/AO3, but hopefully that will be fixed soon, even if it might take some time.
but of course, with humans being well how they are, they have to assume most anything is racist, I mean seriously, even if some of the human disguises of Verosika’s posse, as well as Verosika and even Vortex have dark skin...
don’t mean they are being slag fragging racist, I mean seriously.
Josh, Apple and Kiki’s human disguises are white, and I’m pretty sure they did their fair share of seducing as well.
also some fans may be happy that Coco and Apple are a couple,
like even if they have to seduce some humans, they might be in a committed relationship, same goes for Josh and Ace.
Verosika might be a jerk, who one might need to beware of her siren call...
but if I had to choose between hanging around her, or some toxic-humans who crossed a line like some do, then I’m picking her.
and yeah, I know that isn’t really possible....but excuse me if I’m a bit not so happy with some humans....
plus is it possible if all the succubi, plus Vortex were all white, would that whole racist remark even be talked about....
also some people do have interracial and international heritages, but who knows if some toxic-humans care about that or not...
I’m not even gonna say who that person is, but I will say this that I don’t even think trying to get through to them will even work, because they will just be all like “your just defending the show cause your racist.”
and if they so much as say that, they are just gonna add to my reasons of being Semi-Misanthrope, at least some humans in this world, no matter what race they are, will have more sense than to pull that disgusting card....
especially to some people, who’s ancestors aren’t all white...not like it matters to some people who have to play that stupid card.
I am just tired of humans like that....
also even if Barbie was a jerk as well, but of course some humans have to misinterpret her in the wrong way as well, why am I not surprised...?
and yeah, before the episode showed, most fans assumed she had a human boyfriend, which turned out to be debunked, plus I don’t think she had any romantic interest in him or any type of interest in him besides working with him to do what she needed for her job...I’m not saying any more than that, spoilers.
I might talk a bit about the episode that Blitzo’s twin sister Barbie appeared in, maybe in a few days or maybe next month.
anyway I decided to block that jerk, I don’t know which is more disgustingly worse, their whole false accusations, some people actually liking that post they did, or the whole toxic-religious people who cross lines they shouldn’t and misuse the words “may the lord have mercy on you.” or “may god have mercy on you.” even if you try to tell them to stop it and they are hurting your feelings and making you cry, but they keep misusing the words and throwing them at ya anyway, even if you try to tell them to stop it and you got no other choice but to block them, I know I’m still not gonna be okay with what that toxic-religious jerk did a few years ago...
I am finding some humans not to be all that attractive, I mean even if by chance there can still be small crushes on some, but I’m not interested in trying to date anyone who is Real-3D, I would rather marry that Egg-Himbo Doctor Deep from Sonic Prime, than humans who cross lines they REALLY shouldn’t.
and yeah, I know it isn’t really possible to marry that Egg-Himbo, but he would probably be a bit better than some humans in this dimension...
at least not every human on this planet are toxic-jerks that cross lines they shouldn’t.
the reason why I’m not full Misanthropy, is because people who don’t pull that slag that some Anti-Helluva Boss people are pulling, and maybe some shows should call out some people like that...
not everyone has to be a fan of some series, but that post....that can cross lines and could end up offending some people who know better than some humans...
I don’t think I hate Verosika, and I guess I could be neutral about her and her posse.
I do like Vortex, he is a sweet guy and seems to care about Loona, and maybe Loona will be over her crush on him and go for that new crush of hers that I’m still gonna call Eclipse until we find out his real name if he appears again later on...
I still think it might be possible that it’s only the Embodiment Queens, that have more sense than the Embodiment Kings....
Bee has a good heart, and maybe that is one of the reasons Vortex fell for her, and Bee might also treat Hellhounds and Imps equally, and might not agree with how they are treated by the rest of those who live in Hell...
I guess I am a bit neutral when it comes to Fizzy and Ozzie, I mean they are one of my OTPs, but I wouldn’t be surprised if those two got their karma from Bee when she finds out the stunt they pulled over at Ozzie’s.
I can’t help but view Ozzie and Fizzy as being adorkable and I can’t fully dislike them, because they are just so adorable, even them being all cute together...
one of the things I hope is that I’m not the reincarnation of that Sarah, who Asmodeus was smitten like a kitten for in that distant past, well it might be possible I’m not, even if it does turn out I could have some connection to her, like if it turn out that she was in fact a Earth Angel and at some point a fragment of her soul broke off and half of it became me...
well maybe I can try not to worry about that right now...
when trying to check out some Helluva Boss Fan Art, I did not expect to find that kind of bull slag, hopefully I wont have to find too much of that Anti-Helluva Boss stuff too much.
even if I can be a bit weird and silly at times, and I even gave myself the nickname “the embodiment of weird” or “the embodiment of weirdness”
but even I have a side to myself, I don’t want to be let out at times, I mean if I can help it, like sometimes you got to get some of those negative feelings out, even if it might have to do with some bull slag that some humans talk slag about....
but you might even find times there is still some negative feelings you can’t share, because you might think it’s best to keep it to yourself because you think some might not want to hear it or like they will just be all “your just looking for attention.”
and you might end up being a bit closed off, and only talking about some stuff that peeves you off, but not sharing everything, because you might think it’s best not to but might have thoughts of wanting to try to talk about it in the future.
I still don’t like that disgusting misinterpretation of a post that had to do with Verosika’s Posse & Vortex and if I remember right, it might of talked about Barbie as well...
I can only hope that AO3 gets fixed soon, cause I would like to get back to reading that story I was reading, maybe to help take my mind off of some toxic-humans who think they aren’t being racist themselves...
I was reading a interesting Helluva Boss/Hazbin Hotel Fan Fic, when that whole mess started up, and hopefully they can fully fix it soon...
maybe I can try to check again later, to see if it’s fully back to normal.
I did make a post before this one, that talks a bit about what I had found out about AO3, and hopefully it will get fixed and better soon...
I guess until then, I can either read some other fan fics at some other places, or like watch a movie or some shows or read some books I have.
that or play some video games, and I need to take my mind off of that bull slag stuff that has to do with that, and even if I do point out how they are the ones who are being stereotyping, of course there is a possibility they or those who agree with them, will say that they aren’t stereotyping, and I am not gonna even freaking try....
it can also suck when ya let a bit of your accent show, but the one who show it to, ends up misinterpreting....and think your making fun, but even if you apologize, the misunderstanding is still there.
and you know, it might be possible that even if Blitz wasn’t a Imp or if he was a Sinner Demon that used to be Human, Stolas would still end up falling for Blitz.
sure when they first met, Stolas’s feelings were like in the just romantic crush stage and wouldn’t reach the mature attraction until much later on in his and Blitz’s life, even if he had a crush on Blitz that he wasn’t fully aware of before, he might of still valued the friendship he formed and yeah, I’m still gonna view that Butler that is seen in that one episode that showed Stolas when he was just a little kid, as Stolas’s True Father Figure.
he does seem more of a Dad than Paimon, who thinks he is “so good at daddying.�� but some fans might disagree and might view the Butler being “awesome at daddying”, I hope that character gets a name, maybe if it turns out he doesn’t get one, fans can just call him by a fan-dub type name.
I’m still gonna view that Imp-Butler as Stolas’s Real Dad, even if he isn’t his biological father, but sometimes a real parent isn’t always the one who brought you into this world, it’s the ones who raised, loved and took care of you.
even if Blitz isn’t Loona’s biological father, he is still her REAL father.
Rose from Silent Hill Movie, is Sharon’s Real Mother, even if she didn’t bring her into the world, and Sharon is possibly a fragment soul born from the good part of Alessa’s soul and was send away to live a normal life and find a family to love her.
Dark-Alessa was possibly another fragment soul born from the Original Alessa.
and I find the words “Mother Is God In The Eyes Of A Child” from that Silent Hill Movie, to be interesting...like if the I.M.P. and Hazbin Gang were to watch that movie and hear that part of that movie...
I wouldn’t be surprised if Blitz and Alastor both agreed about that...
it be interesting if Millie and Charlie found that really adorable.
also maybe we will get to see more of Verosika and Blitz’s past, as well as Blitz and Barbie’s past and why Verosika and Barbie seem to hate Blitz so much.
though with the Ozzie’s episode, some of Verosika’s reasons might be uncalled for, I mean she is a succubus, and if some succubi ain’t careful they can suck the energy and stamina of others, even if it does turn out that Blitz and Barbie are part succubus, they could possibly still have their energies drained, but because they aren’t humans, they wouldn’t be in life threatening danger.
my theory about Blitz and Barbie being part succubi, has to do with their Mom and how I believe she could be a Succubus, she could possible be a Imp-Succubus Hybrid, which might mean that both Blitz and Barbie are quarter succubi.
and I guess it could be possible that Fizzarolli, could be half-succubus.
Incubus could be slightly different from Succubus in Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel, because apparently even the guys are called succubus or succubi.
of course it would suck for some who are Earth Angels, to have some kind of succubus heritage, and have to protect themselves from the energies of some humans and even some Incubus/Succubus....
I’m still not sure if the whole gems being used for the purpose of protecting you from other energies that might be harmful to you, will work for everyone...
I’m not really sure if it could work for everyone or not.
it does suck that person who posted that Anti-Helluva Boss post, seem to ignore the whole Josh, Apple and Kiki, and the fact they also did some seducing as well...
even if some parts of this month of July had pretty much sucked, at least some good came out of it, like watching fireworks, even if the sound of some of them did spook me a little....
one of the things to look forward to this July, is the FNAF Ruin DLC, as well as the Season 2 of Sonic Prime.
also maybe Verosika and Blitz will end up patching things up, even if they might not end up back together, and unlike in some Fanon, they might not end up in a poly-relationship with Stolas, but maybe in the canon, they could end up becoming either frienemies or friends.
it’s not like Blitz is the only one at fault, and the sooner Verosika, Barbie and Fizz realize that, the better.
they may share the blame as to why their relationship with Blitz, both platonic and romantic, had fell apart and turn into heartbreak...
but instead of taking responsibility, they make Blitz the full on scapegoat.
hopefully history doesn’t repeat with Stolas, as it would suck if Stolas did the same thing that those three did.
Blitz might be not perfect when it comes to romantic relationships, but no one has to be perfect at it, and who says there is one way of being romantic.
I mean just watching a movie together or playing video games together, and respect each other’s space when needed, is good and it doesn’t always have to be all kissy or the other stuff all the time.
Verosika, Barbie and Fizz might not even get that they aren’t the only ones who ended up hurt, and Blitz was in fact hurt, by THEM....
of course they are too full of themselves to see that, and maybe those three will get their karma, and if one of the sneak peaks have anything to go by...
Fizz will be the first one to get the karma, Fizzy I love ya, but you know this was coming....I might not be a Fallen Earth Angel, but I sure get Broken at times.
which there can be a differences between a Fallen Angel and a Broken Angel.
a Broken Angel gets emotionally hurt way too many times before they can heal properly, and it could be possible that while they do heal, it doesn’t mean they still aren’t broken on the inside.....maybe some will understand what that means.
and yeah as weird as it might sound, the thoughts that pop into my head are the words “don’t take sass from angel-boys...” which is different from what Charlie learned from her Dad...
maybe I can try to get my mind off of that post, by just checking out some stuff on here and maybe later, I can check to see if AO3 is back to normal.
maybe I will watch a movie later, but I guess if I don’t feel like doing that right away, I can try later tonight...
maybe I can just try laying down on my back and try that family tradition of Blooky from Undertale, not sure if the Blooky from Deltarune has the same family tradition, but it be interesting if they both had the same family tradition.
I don’t think I feel like doing that Blooky Family Tradition on the floor, so I can just lay on my bed and try to relax and try not to move.
anyway, maybe we will see more of Barbie Wire’s past and why she seems to hate her brother now, but it might be a while before we get the full story, even the full story on Blitz and Fizz, as well as Blitz and Verosika.
also it might be possible that some of Verosika’s Posse aren’t all insensitive jerks, because not all of them ended up harassing Moxxie.
also what sucks that when a character show they aren’t perfect or flawless, some people have to be all not so happy about it, like in the wrong ways.
like instead of showing sympathy or empathy to the character, they start to dislike the character, don’t know how many people ended up doing that, but maybe it isn’t that many.
and yeah, I see a kindred spirit in some fictional characters, like Steven from Steven Universe, Chara from Undertale, and even a character from RWBY...
oh, and I think I could view Spinel from Steven Universe as a kindred spirit as well, kindred spirits don’t have to be 100% the same, but might know how it feels to be hurt past the breaking point.
it is possible that some fans, will find a kindred spirit in the shows or movies or video games or books they love so much....cause they know how it feels to be hurt past the breaking point.
and even if we try not to think about the really bad negative stuff and even try to see the good positive and try to take our minds off of the really bad negative things that make us unhappy, it doesn’t mean it wont still place a wound, well emotional wound in our hearts that wont end up opening at times.
and yeah, sometimes some bad feelings can make ya cry.
anyone would become sad or mad or both when their own negative feelings are ignored or seeing as not important enough...
and even if I can talk about some stuff, like getting some negative feelings out, there is just some negative feelings, I can’t talk about, but if I decide to, maybe I will bring myself to do so. just not right now...
and I guess in a way, that post had triggered me, well anyone can have different ways to be triggered, but we can at least try to do stuff to take our minds off of it....plus it can suck when your feelings are misunderstood and not everyone will try to understand them.
I’m not gonna talk a lot about that disgusting post, I mean the less I get involved with that post the better, and even if I do try to point out how disgusted I am with that person, it is possible not everyone will understand or be on my side, they will take the side of someone who believes some bull slag that isn’t true.
plus, apparently there is more than just that one....
maybe I can try to take my mind off of that, by just checking out some stuff on here and maybe in my next post I can post a theory or a drawing.
and who knows, maybe in the future, Verosika, Fizz and Barbie will finally see they aren’t the only ones who were hurt, and them scapegoating Blitz, is only doing more harm than good....I still don’t think Blitz is the only one at fault and his actions might of been because of how he was treated by Verosika, Fizz and Barbie, but instead of them trying to understand this, they point fingers and place all the blame on Blitz.
maybe I can talk about that whole Verosika, Fizz and Barbie scapegoating in another post...
maybe I will talk a bit about it after I post this, I don’t think I want to get into too much of my disgust with that person and their bull slag and even those who seem to agree with them...maybe doing some stuff that make me happy, can help with my mood and help me take my mind off of that post.
#verosika mayday helluva boss#succubi#barbie wire#bad humans#toxic people#humans suck#misanthropy#not for kids#mature audiences only#talking about feelings#not in the mood#july 2023
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I have a lot to say and not enough time to say it. It hurts, but ya’ll know what this is about so if you want my full fandom retrospective opinion thing guys, here.
I’ve been following Vivienne’s art and career since I found her on dA in 2009. I’ve basically grown up with her and have a wide range of opinions up and down her collective work. I must stress that I do not know her as a person and no matter how critical I get in my personal time if I somehow met her in real life or converse with her online again (like, back in the day we went back and forth. She was pretty nice to me), I’d be humble and congratulate her for her success.
Critique does not, EVER equate to attacking people.
But
the reason I don’t call myself a VivziePopVivzmind-fan is the exact same as to why I don’t like the proud use of ‘anti’. Let me try and explain -
The vast majority of Viv fans are just that: fans. Viv’s one of their favorite artists and they’re happy for her and obviously defensive when some mouth breather pops into their fan discussion calling her and all of them trash. Quite a lot of the Hazbin fans I know in my circle of friends are all pretty accepting and agree on the problematic notions and implications of her work.
HOWEVER, there’s a vocal minority in the VivziePop fandom that were and still are toxic. Their specific interest in Viv back in the day was toxic...and now that she’s moved on into a successful career I doubt they’ve gone away, considering the things I’ve heard. These people - they’d flood Viv’s comments sections and stuff with messages like they were talking to her when they weren’t and they’d unironically call her a god in a way that feels like gaslighting, ex: “I’ll NEVER be as good as you Viv! My art is just sooooo unpopular oh god you are incredible no one will ever like you as much as meeeee”. It made me uncomfortable. It made me not want to be around her because these people took Viv’s role in their lives so seriously and their demand for her attention...it struck a nerve.
These same fans have been around long enough to see actual shitlords - the likes of Kiwifarms and tapatalk wikis - come in and actually harass Viv. Viv’s been sent revenge porn by sick freaks who think they’re funny and believe she deserves it. No. In my non-name fan bystander opinion, Viv’s got some shit to work on, but no one deserves raperevenge porn. EVER. It was genuinely bad and yes Viv and her base have every reason to NOT TRUST these communities. Unfortunately, when these incidents happened, these particular fans took it upon themselves to gatekeep the fandom and act like Viv’s unofficial guard against any kind of decenting opinion of her, all without her say so.
((to the critics who will be all “but Viv or Faust said THIS to their fans-”, like I said, Viv’s far from perfect but regardless of how much she prolly wanted people to side with her I’m gonna guess that she didn’t want people sending transphobic death threats to DollCreep. Again, and this is coming from a bystander here, I have a feeling Viv knows about some of the toxicity but doesn’t know how/want to address it - which is a conversation all it’s own.))
This particular breed of VivziePop “fan” holds so much toxicity in her fandom(s). They aren’t the only cause, but they’re there. They feel entitled to her attention and her approval. They creep me out. Having spoken to other much-less critical admitted fans of Viv around me, these fans appear to creep everyone else out and put the rest of the fandom on edge. They’re gatekeepers. They’re creeps. Like the bronies and SU fans of yestertodayyears, they know harassment exists and that people have crossed the line - so they think any means is necessary to prevent that is automatically good. I could pile together all the incidents and folks who’ve had bad runs ins with this aftershock of Viv-obsession, but I do have a life of my own and this post is already stupid long so I’ll just list out the biggest examples and provide receipts when asked.
Critical blogs have gotten RAPE and death threats because they don’t like Viv’s art. HonestZoophobiaCriticisms, a blog I interracted with back in the day, def got one. Now Viv’s opinion of crit-blogs is that they’re “bad takes” but I can assure you she doesn’t want that shit being said on her behalf.
I’ve seen young artists get blacklisted from sites and forums cause they so much as post a redesign. Viv and co get told through the grapevine that someone’s making hatespeech and so preemptively block said person (prolly cause they’re in the middle of WORKING and can’t deal right now) only to find out after the fact that no, it was just a kid drawing their version of her characters. There’s serious miscommunication issues within the fandom about who’s ‘good’ or ‘bad’ and once you get the actual staff involved in this game of telephone you’re begging for trouble. The problem acknowledged, however, it’s souly from the “Viv never did anything wrong camp”. No word is said about how ugly the fandom is under the surface it’s all one type of person’s fault and not complicated’. Blah
I’ve only ever had ONE obsessive ‘fan’ who’d stalk me, mock me, and then redraw my art just to get attention from me. That shit fucked with my head. As a follower hundreds of miles away from Viv who’s agreed/disagreed with her through the years - I absolutely believe her when she says she hates ‘creeps’ and that she doesn’t want anyone in her fandom spreading hate on her behalf. It’s the one thing about her I’m POSITIVELY sure of. Whether she believes that said underlying harassment exists and/or is even a problem within her fandoms is anyone’s guess. That’s not what I’m here for. I’m here to write stupid blog entries like this, talk about fandoms and media and how they and the real world affect one another, and rb fan art I like. I’m cautiously optimistic fan with a side of salt.
Mixed opinions and critique within a fandom CAN and SHOULD exist. Hazbin Hotel has been greenlit by a studio! It has a product line of merchandise you buy. Helluva Boss is getting eight more episodes this coming year (yeeee:3yeeee). Two of Viv’s properties are now products. Nothing is immune from critique. And in critique you will find a lot of people who are not ‘nice’. Critique or analysis doesn’t have to be nice. There will be, in Viv’s words’ ‘bad takes’ on her writing. Maybe they will be actual CinemaSins-styled bad takes or maybe Viv is just mad that people don’t love and feel inspired by her characters the way she wants them to - it’s a fact she’s going to have to get used to.
((TBH, I’m pretty sure she’s already realized that criticism of all types need to exist. It’s just that, again, her and the SpindleHorse staff are kind of overwhelmed by all matter of takes and opinions coming their way they kinda can’t deal weeding out the fair ones from the assholes, so she lumps them all together.))
Shitposters, ironic fans, unironic fans, critical fans, just critics of Hazbin and Helluva CAN and WILL exist. They should exist and not feel threatened by the megafandom. There are people out there who are one step further and rightfully bothered by Hazbin/Helluva’s use of incorrect symbols, portrayal of certain topics, and the response by creators. These people have strong opinions and are actually disgusted by Viv. They deserve to exist too and should not be vilified because, like me, they’re commentary doesn’t consist of anything personal towards the people at Spindlehorse or the fans of her works. They can rant, they can be professional, they can be petty and they can be fair. But they will exist. You have to deal with it.
I am an ADD/OCD ridden autistic woman with serious anxiety issues who has no one to talk to half the time and so only HAS my fandom to communicate with. But that’s just it - it’s a fandom. A community. You have to learn to not think souly of yourself and of others in a community. A fandom doesn’t exist just for you or any one person. You have the right to be angry and defend or be offended. And it’s in the spirit of that that I ask, prrraaaaaay even, that I please
NOT BE CALLED AN “ANTI-ANTI” for not liking the moniker?!
I DON’T TO BE AN “ANTI”. Not ironically, not unironically. ‘Anti’ should be for politics and shit like pedophiles, necrophiles, nazis, serial killer stans, Trump, racists, antisemites, terfs, animal abusers, rapists, and antivaxxers. Anti should only come into critical media analysis when these ethical issues follow suit IN TO fandom discussion. ((EX: Anime and MLP proudly waving their cp and non-con into the public eye; Hazbin appropriating cultural symbols which are not satanic; Basically anything that concerns John K or Butch Hartman.))
If your DNI list unironically consists of the entirety of one fandom: CONGLATURATIONS! You have done the exact same thing these particular creepy Viv fans have done: monopolize the conversation. And yes, people I’m referring to, IT’S STILL A PROBLEM EVEN IF YOU’RE FIGHTING RACISM/SEXISM/HOMOTRANSPHOBIA.
There are hundreds of Vivziefans who ARE more critical, accepting of faults, interested in discussion and especially rewrite and redesign stuff who would LOVE to engage with you and give you a follow. There’s hundreds of people who no doubt agree with you!
But the thing I’ve seen these very proud AntiHazbinVivzieHelluvaWhatever blogs do is lash out at fans for continuing to like Viv and consume Viv’s art in a healthy way. What the actual fuck is your problem?
I get it. Say a crazy Hazbin fan gets on your case for even SUGGESTING Viv could be homophobic ((”SHE’SBIANDWORKSWITHGAYPPLblahablahblah”)). They get in your face, make some callouts, try to rile up support against you, leave disgusting harassment throughout your social media? Absolutely ban worthy. After that it’s perfectly understandable why you don’t want to engage with anything HHHBZPVivzierelated because you’re so fucking tired of being labeled an abuser or “just jealous” for having an opinion on a show you don’t like. I’m with you!
But,
A fan agrees that something in the canon is bad or that Viv did something they don’t like?
A fan likes your silly shitpost meme?
A fan asks if they can like Hazbin and follow you at the same time?
A fan does fan art of something you don’t like?
If your response to any of these ^^^ things is to get LOUD and accusatory, Vivsplain them about how they’re an absolutely awful person to ever question YOUR opinion, or just block them without a second thought? You’re a petty, vendictive shit and you also need to learn to let things go. I’m sorry but you do. As I already said, Viv’s work is a brand at this point, not just the work of a singular person. As such, there are gonna be mixed opinions and you can’t judge every single one of these people by what they like. You’re a shitty critic with a shitty attitude and yes that will demean the value of what you’re saying. This is bad because, if you’re trying to point out how Angel Dust’s abuse IS handled terribly; gay rep in Viv’s work is weak and terrible; the show appropriates closed practices; the fandom makes excuses for predatory artists and creepy behavior and individuals who have sketchy pasts - I’M WITH YOU. WE NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS SHIT. JUST BECAUSE THESE ARE ADULT CARTOONS SET IN HELL MEANS THERE SHOULD BE ANYTHING CLOSE TO 2013 PONY-TUMBLR. <<<---- this shit is as important to me as it is to you and I really don’t like being called an abuser or apologist for saying “hey maybe blowing up at ppl for the shows they like ISN’T the way to go about this”.
But I have, just like the good old days of 2015 Zoophobia of yore, been blocked because I admit to being tired of ‘Anti’ being equated to ‘critical’. Same with hater.
Critical DOES NOT = Anti+Hater. I’m fucking tired of people saying it does and I’m tired of people taking up the term as some weird form of fandom reappropriation. It’s stupid.
Tl;dr: Once upon a time, I was in a budding fandom for something I liked made by an indie artist I watched on dA. I wanted to be a bigger fan than I was already, but was told by toxic people within said fandom that I couldn’t be part of it for reasons they’d made up in their head about my ‘motives’ against Viv. My admiration for Viv or what I liked about Zoophobia didn’t matter because I thought the story was really rushed and people weren’t being truthful with how they really felt about it - ergo, I HAD TO GO.
Flash forward 8 years later- My opinion of Viv’s body of work has changed but I still find myself in love with her style and some of her characters. I want to be on a forum or service that gives a healthy look at the problems there are with this series and fandom...and I’m met repeatedly by petty bs where people are again at each other’s throats. And yes, I do think it’s causing more harm than good especially when you insist there’s a “x person shouldn’t be trusted” mentality when fighting actual fucking racist, xenophobic, predatory bullshit.
#vivziepop#vivziepop critical#vivziepop drama#hazbin hotel#hazbin critical#hazbin hotel critical#critical hazbin hotel#anti anti#antis#anti hazbin hotel#cause I want both sides of this debaucle to see this and I'm tired#K?
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2021 Is The New Year, But I Feel Sad Tonight
things seem pretty okay at the start of this year.
still procrastinating, but if you feel up to doing what you make your goal
right away, then you should be able to try to enjoy a little relaxing, watching your favorite shows or movies, or maybe do some drawing and try to come up with ideas for future chapters for fan fic that you have to post in a different place than where you would normally post them.
but I’m sticking to that promise,
and just need time to get around to it a little more.
I’m crying right now, and not just because of the possibility of my pendulum being right about someone I considered a friend, doing something behind my back, and lying to others and well....I’m still gonna hope it isn’t true.
and my pendulum was just playing a REALLY mean prank.
I am also upset that ANOTHER person is stealing from Vivziepop,
and they can’t even understand why the Youtube User
who goes by [Redacted], is mad.
which I can understand why they are mad and well the other party who has done it might not realize it and need to be told in a gentle way about it.
and at least when others use drawings or clips,
to do dubs or music videos, they give credit.
I even mention in a journal over at the other place I go to,
about how someone else had broke the Pilot episode of Hazbin Hotel,
and even wrote for the title if Hazbin Hotel Was A Series.
I really REALLY hope both Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss,
get on Adult Swim, I need to look up to see when Cuphead Show is gonna come on, all I know it is suppose to be around 2021.
I think I feel a bit better now, when I had stop typing for a few or so on this,
I was talking to family, guess it helps to talk to family at times.
I still don’t like my pendulum giving me such replies about someone I trust.
I really don’t do well with betrayal, and plus the reason like I said before
about my reasoning for chickening out about telling whats going on.
well about what that one Youtuber from before was doing,
because I know it is possible I might just end up messing it up,
and possibly get my words misinterpreted, and I thought that
I saw the number of one of the journals, and I ain’t pleased.
it would be different if it was just my fan art or whatever,
but I had talked about it around December of 2020, which was last year.
maybe after I check out some stuff on here, I can go sign in to Rooster Teeth
and check out Red Vs Blue or maybe even one of the Death Battles.
I asked my pendulum if any of those who saw those journals, even care
about whats going on, and well it gave a “No” but it could only mean only half of them don’t care about it.
if I could use magic to it’s fullest power, I would open a portal and get out of here every once in a while and take a nice vacation.
I would make sure to come back here of course...
I’m kind of peeved off at most of humanity, even if there are still some good ones....which it is the good ones that make me not be full on Misanthrope.
so yeah I’m just Semi-Misanthrope.
I wonder if I have become a bit more sensitive than normal?
it could have to do with how I had got over a depression in 2015, but then the next year I ended up in a whole new mess...
I really need to try not to let myself fall into another depression after having recovered from one that was from what was happening at home.
well I was always sensitive and when I get really sad about something,
I would end up crying.
I just really hope that everything works out, and people who can explain what’s going on much better than me, will tell the team whats going on.
I just need to try not to worry about it too much about it.
another thing I should try not to worry about, is the fact my pendulum gives me a Yes, about being in love with...someone I can’t say the name of.
just because we MIGHT of been together in one of my past lives,
don’t mean it is going to happen in this life.
best to just try to ignore it and bury it deep deep deep very deep down,
or least try to.
having a crush I can handle.
but my pendulum has to be playing a really mean prank on me about who I am supposedly in love with.
I know I let things get to me too much, and well because of how badly I was hurt.
and how I had to give in to such unfair demands, that didn’t really fix the problem at all....and we could of worked it out if I was just told...
and if it was about a journal, then they could of just told me...
great now I’m crying again, and it isn’t just because of well that mess from a few years ago.
I guess even though I did get better after a second depression, which was partly my fault because I let what happen get to me too much.
and well it put me in a very darker place than what I was put in when that nightmare stuff was going on around at home.
I want to try to talk with friends more, but at the same time I still need to have time to myself, like a lot.
I am still tired of being hurt past my breaking point,
and I really hope that my pendulum is just playing a really mean and cruel prank, not from the whole me being in love with.......someone.
but because of the thought of being purposely hurt...
it is possible my pendulum when it doesn’t give me a truth, or a friendly prank.
like the one where Gaster being real and he implanted the idea of Undertale and Deltarune in Toby Fox’s Mind...
or the whole my soul despite being in a human body,
is a upside-down heart, which is kind of like the Monster’s Souls from Undertale....
those are fun pranks it does.
but anyway it is possible that it shows me worries,
things that I know would hurt me deeply.
maybe I should make it charge by the window again,
as well as take some food salt,
pray with it in my hands to the Divine Father & Mother,
and throw the food salt on to the pendulum.
I had discovered I can get rid of certain negative energies
that end up on some stuff we have, by taking some food salt
(that we normally eat with.) then pray with it in my hands,
then throw it on the said item.
well at least it is being honest about the whole embarrassing empath thing.
and about how the bracelets I wear seem to now protect me from such energies.
I’m not saying what it is on here though...
it could at least give a No about it not being true,
and it was just joking.
and maybe I shouldn’t be too mad at well the ones who couldn’t understand
what they were doing with Hazbin Hotel and even Helluva Boss.
but even if some people might stand up for them, and might even resort to some name calling.
but there are lines fans should never cross.
and even if fans do use some parts of clips, or mix clips up into a fan music video, it is important to make sure that those who see it,
will understand the clips belong to it’s original owner or owners.
otherwise it will be like that false report on the original Undertale Amv
yes someone did do some subs for it, but the one who gave the false report,
might of not bothered to check the day or month of the said two.
and I believe that the one who did subs for the Amv, did ask for permission.
I have mention before that I dislike the negative side of Youtube,
cause they let false reports happen.
I like the positive side of Youtube,
and I hope all of you understand what I mean.
maybe I should try doing mediation again,
but maybe I should wait until tomorrow....
I might not be in the right mood for it right now.
I got a violin for christmas, but I’m not very good at playing it,
but that’s fine, I don’t mind if I sound a little terrible on it.
another thing that my pendulum is full of Determination
to prank me with, is it still giving a Yes about Jesus Christ having Descendants.
and I guess since I know it is a prank, I can say it here.
I keep asking if Jesus is my Ancestor, and it keeps giving me a “Yes”
I ain’t telling my family I been asking my pendulum questions,
that need a “Yes” or “No” type of reply.
and i sure ain’t telling them that the pendulum keeps pulling the same prank about well Jesus who is suppose to be like a very distant cousin, being like technically my ancestor too...?
I think it is just one of it’s pranks.
maybe I really should get the food salt prepared to throw at it,
make it go into a time out and stop pulling such mean pranks.
at least it giving a Yes about W.D.Gaster being real and implanting the idea of the two video games of both Deltarune and Undertale into Toby Fox’s mind,
is a really good and funny prank it is pulling.
okay I think I feel better now and am not gonna cry again.
I know I had mentioned before about the whole being a descendant of King David.....which the Virgin Mary is the descendant of him too,
which makes Jesus technically a very distant cousin...
King David was a dysfunctional Dad, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Grandpa Solomon was the same...
even if you might end up with a really cool ancestor or ancestress,
there will always be ones that will disappoint you.
but anyway this ain’t about the dysfunctional ancestors....
I need to try to keep to my happy place and try not to let worries
and hope the whole stuff that I had talked about before.
oh and no matter if your religious or atheist,
it’s fine ya don’t think much of what was said,
after all it has to be my pendulum just pulling one of it’s pranks.
not about being a distant cousin thing,
I knew that way before I got my pendulum.
I think I might of known before I got it,
I know that someone in my family told me about
the whole we are family to Jesus...
you know if he did have a daughter way back many moons ago....
my pendulum gave me a truthful Yes, so yeah...
if he did have a daughter, he would of treated her better
and not be like King David and how he didn’t do anything to help Tamar.
but if anyone who is atheist doesn’t believe about all that,
I wont force ya, it’s fine if you don’t want to.
I mean I did once thought I was Christian, and even went by it for some time.
I can still have the same believes as when I did thought I was a Christian like the rest of my family.
but I am a Ma-Acolyte, I believe in well The Divine Father, Mother and Jesus.
but it is fine that no one believes the same as me, plus I don’t believe it is right to force convert.
if someone wants to convert, it should be of their free will.
you should never make them feel bad or tell them if they don’t,
they will go to hell.
well being “Gay” ain’t gonna be the reason you go to hell,
no matter how many times people say it will.
that is one of the honest and 100% truthful replies to my questions,
that my pendulum gave me.
so yeah being Gay ain’t a sin.
and my bigender identity & being Aroaceflux ain’t a sin either.
in case anyone doesn’t know about well the whole bigender thing.
it is like two gender identity,
for me I still see myself as my biological birth gender.
but at the same time I see myself as Non-Binary too.
so yeah I am Gyno-Agender.
it took me some time to figure out the true parts of me.
I’m listening to the parody of ADDICT right now,
it is nice that they make sure to put the original link to the original maker of the song as well as the music video that it was used in.
it suppose to be Valentino and Vox singing it.
(with Velvet too.)
why do I find Valentino & Vox’s voices attractive.
well I do find Stolas’s singing voice really charming.
well there are different ways to be attracted to others.
like a sirens singing voice, you can’t help but be enchanted.
I think after getting some feelings out, I really do feel better.
might not be able to do a lot of what I want to do on here right now.
so maybe just a few things, like how I heart/faved two posts when I had first signed on this year in 2021.
and by the way there was a reason why I put “Redacted”
it is like to censor a name, I even decided to do that after figuring out
about well what was wrote in that Five Nights of Flirting I had downloaded.
it’s basically a AU of a AU, but according to the person that made the fan game, the original creator doesn’t want to be named.
I really need to figure out how not to die so fast in that game.
at least it gives you a option of being Male, Female or Non-Binary/Genderfluid.
and well I am kind of both of the Female and Non-Binary part.
but I can just pick all three for different routes.
but the game is “M” so it isn’t for everyone.
speaking of “M” rated, I need to make sure when a younger family members
come over, I need to make sure they don’t get their hands on my M rated games.
there are some things that a little kid should NEVER see, not until they are old enough.....
there is just some things you do not let your kids see,
and if they do, they might understand later on that they weren’t the proper age to see certain movies or shows, and they want to try to stop the cycle from repeating.
maybe I shouldn’t bother with placing tags for this.
I decided to ask my pendulum again about the whole friend thing
and if they were just joking, and I believe I asked it to be serious
and I felt mad too, so maybe becoming a little more mad at it, will give a answer that isn’t a mean prank that is from my fears.
I just don’t like being betrayed,
that had happen to me before, with a boy who I thought was my best friend.
the teachers were no help either,
couldn’t just understand from my point of view.
anyway maybe I will check out some stuff on here first,
then I will go watch some cartoons and try to stay in a happy place.
anyway see ya later, stay safe and happy late new year everyone.
PS:
this time the pendulum had admit it was joking, so yeah it better not pull such a prank again....but I think for a few days I wont use it....
but I will throw food salt on it....that joke it was playing wasn’t funny.
it was one of the reasons I started to cry and worry.
so the pendulum is gonna get a timeout for the rest of the day...
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