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bnhaobservation · 3 days ago

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@biggibbins said:

What is ment by 'Touya assuming Enji forced himself on Rei' in Dabi's speech thing where he exposes Endeavor's past and that thier related(you can't be 99% related to one of your parents, did Touya not pass biology class in middle school) he states that Endeavor forced Rei to have children, which i was saying it wouldn't be possible for Touya to know that, even if he was told why he was created it's an assumption for him to say she was forced(when it's revealed that she in fact wanted more children after Touya and Fuyumi) and the what is seen in the dark quote would be the closest he could get to having known anything, cuz it is a possibility he walked in on his parents having sex and misunderstood the situation (a trama we have all gone through 😔) [Again, idk if I explained well I'm bad at articulating my thoughts] And with the flowers my lil theory is that after she was hospitalized Enji had a greenhouse built to acomidate the flowers, cuz we see her with a fully bloomed flower out of season as well as both times we see them they are in full bloom and not even slightly wilted, flowers wilt fast once cut(which both flowers are) which means not only did Enji have to have visited her before going into battle, he had also recently visited before Fuyumi and Natsuo visited that time. This implies he visits her often(which I'm pretty sure she herself says). I love ur takes btw, I'm learning alot about the todofam and I love it!♡

First of all thank you for loving my takes! It really makes me happy.

Now, for your points...

It means that you either read a bad translation or you're remembering wrong... and that the paternity test in your country is done differently than in Japan and in other countries.

Let's tackle Touya's speech first, which was pre-recordered. We can recognize it as it has baloons with exagonal shape and double borders.

Here we have the first part which is in chap 290

Todoroki Tōya ‘Boku, Todoroki Tōya wa ENDEAVOR no Todoroki-ke no chōnan to shite umaremashita. Ima made 30-nin ijō no tsumi naki hitobito o koroshimashita. Boku ga naze kono yōna shūwai na shogyō ni itatta ka minna ni shitte moraitai. ENDEAVOR wa katsute chikara ni kogarete imashita. Soshite, ALL MIGHT o koe rarenai zetsubō kara yori tsuyoi "kosei" o motta ko o tsukuru tame, muriyari tsuma o metorimashita. Boku wa chichi no riko-tekina yume no tame ni tsukurareta. Shikashi, dōyara boku wa shippaisaku datta yōde hodonaku shite mikagirare suterare wasurerare mashita.’ 轟燈矢「僕、轟はエンデヴァーの轟家の長男として生まれました。今まで30人以上の罪なき人々を殺しました。僕が何故このような醜穢な所業に至ったか皆に知ってもらいたい。エンデヴァーはかつて力に焦がれていました。そして、オールマイトを超えられない絶望からより強い〝個性〟を持った子を作る為、無理矢理妻を娶りました。僕は父の利己的な夢の為につくられた。しかし、どうやら僕は失敗作だったようで程なくして見限られ捨てられ忘れられました。」 Todoroki Tōya “I, Todoroki Tōya, was born as the eldest son of Endeavor's Todoroki family. I have killed over 30 innocent people so far. I want everyone to know what led me to commit such a filthy deed. Endeavor once yearned for power. Then, in despair of not being able to surpass All Might, in order to create a child with a stronger “Quirk” he took a wife by force. I was created for my father's selfish dream. However, it seems I was a failure, and I was soon given up on, cast away, and forgotten.” [Chap. 290]

So let's focus on this first part.

As said in the previous post Touya here uses ‘muriyari’ (無理やり) to talk about his parents' marriage. ‘Muriyari’ means “forcibily, against one’s will”. Here though, he's not talking about Enji raping Rei, he's just talking about Enji forcing Rei to marry him.

How this works culturally?

The implication is he asked the Himura to marry Rei, bringing on the table his status, money and prestige, aware the Himura needed money.

The Himura decided this would be good for them, great actually. It's unclear if Horikoshi had already established the Himura backstory and how they marry among them but, if the Himura had other plans for Rei, they discharged it quickly enough.

Rei likely wasn't dragged to the altar kicking and screaming but, if she wanted to be a good daughter (and since she was the daughter of an once prestigious family she likely was educated into being one) she would have to obey to her father and accept the marriage so that she could help her family.

Basically, by not courting Rei first but by going straight to her family bringing money and prestige, he had forced Rei to say 'yes'.

We see that the marriage is an extremely fast one. Enji became Number 2 after he turned 20, which means in the November Hero Billboard of that year or in the May billboard of the following year, he has his Miai with Rei after he is Number 2 and Touya is conceived around April in the year in which Enji would turn 22.

Assuming that Enji became Number 2 at the November billboard it would give him at the very best 1 year and 6 months before Touya's birth.

Considering he first had to discover Himura Rei would be a suitable spouse, that organizing a Miai takes time, that there are steps to follow, that while signing the marriage papers can be done quickly and easily enouth a ceremony is generally organized 6 months after and it probably would have looked bad if Endeavor married without a good ceremony (signing the paper alone IS the marriage, you don't need the ceremony) things went rather fast.

Enji knows Rei agreed to marry him not because she had fallen for him but because she wanted to help her family.

Rei insists it was her decision and while she likely didn't marry Enji for love, she apparently thought she could still be happy with him.

It's possible, since this is the scene the image reference, that when Enji asked her if she liked those flowers, she decided to believe he could grow to care for her for more than just her Quirk.

We don't know.

And now we continue with the rest of Touya's speech which is in the following chapter.

I'll skip the bit regarding to Hawks as that is of no interest to us

Todoroki Tōya ‘Kyūshū no tatakai de nokosareta ENDEAVOR no chi to 99.99% icchi shitemasu. Soredemo netsuzō o utagawa reru deshou. Boku wa shinjite moraeru yō hanasu shika arimasen. ENDEAVOR wa sonogo mo haha ni ko o umase, 4-nin me ni shite mina-san gozonji no kata mo irudeshou. Seikōsaku no Shōto ga umaremashita. Soshite taibō no kessaku ni sae te o agete imasu. Boku wa nando mo mitekimashita. ENDEAVOR wa tasya o omoiyaru kokoro nante mochi awase tenai. Jiko kenji ni oboreta waishōde hitoriyogari no seishin. Sonna ningen ga HERO o nanotte ī to omoimasu ka?’ 轟燈矢「九州の戦いで残されたエンデヴァーの血と99.99%一致してます。それでも捏造を疑われるでしょう。僕は信じてもらえるよう話すしかありません。エンデヴァーはその後も母に子を産ませ、4人目にして皆さんご存知の方もいるでしょう。成功作の焦凍が産まれました。そして待望の傑作にさえ手を上げています。僕は何度も見てきました。エンデヴァーは他者を思いやる心なんて持ち合わせてない。自己顕示に溺れた矮小で独りよがりの精神。そんな人間がヒーローを名乗っていいと思いますか？」 Todoroki Tōya “It's a 99.99% match with Endeavor's blood that was left behind during the battle in Kyushu. But even so, you will still suspect that it's fabricated. I have no choice but to tell the story in a way that will make you believe me. Endeavor continued to have children with my mother, and as some of you know, their fourth child was born, the successful Shoto. And he has even put his hand on the long-awaited masterpiece. I've seen it so many times. Endeavor has no compassion for others. He has a petty, self-centered spirit obsessed with self-exhibitionism. Do you think such a person should be allowed to call himself a hero?” [Chap. 291]

So the paternity test as you seem to have doubts on it. We don't know how far Touya got in bilogy in middle school as he 'died' in the middle of it (in my country we have that part in the last year of middle school so he would have completely skipped it if he were born in my country) but that's unimportant because Garaki and Horikoshi did end middle school and went even further in their study and knows how a paternity test work and that if there's a perfect match you say it's a 99.9999% probability that the paternity test is positive.

Honestly I didn't check all the countries but, so far, allt he ones I checked use this exact same system and a quick search on the net, be it through wikipedia or medical centers should confirm it to you as well.

Now, regarding the other children Enji have Touya's speech doesn't say Enji raped his mother, he just says he continued to have her give birth to his children... which can be obtained easily enough by having unprotected sex, Touya doesn't need to speculate if it was consensual or not.

Japan has a low natality (so low currently in percentage a couple should have 0,99 children.... ^_^;;).

When BNHA started things were a little better and this was alread A SERIOUS CONCERN.

The fact that Enji has not 1, not 2, not 3 but 4 children and conveniently stopped having children after he got a child with the Quirk he wanted is telling enough of how hard Enji tried having kids and how he did it for a purpose. The people don't really need to know if Rei was consenting or not, they probably expected her to give consent because that's what a good wife does. In fact, according to Confucianism beliefs, which are still popular in Japan even if much less than in the past, a woman is obligated not to act on her own initiatives and, at home, she must submissively obey or follow her father before getting married, her husband after getting married, and her sons after her husband’s death.

So no, Touya doesn't need to tell people that Enji forced himself on Rei for his point to be true and might not have known if Enji did it or not... but, in order to suspect Rei was abused, he didn't necessarily need to jump on his parents having sex.

I'll use this to correct a common misunderstanding that I see often reported in fanfic.

Rei and Enji get married, Rei knows it's a Quirk marriage and that therefore she's expected to give Enji babies. Touya gets born in January but he only has, as far as they know, a fire Quirk. Likely Touya was like Shouto (who could ice his snot bubble) and the glowing baby as he manifested his Quirk at birth, not when he went to preschool.

Canon let us aware of Enji's thoughts and tell us that Enji still wanted a baby with a dual Quirk. Rei was also okay with having more babies thinking they would support each other and so they conceive Fuyumi around March and she's born in December of the same year in which Touya is born (we can see that while she's a baby Touya isn't capable yet to walk, which means he's around 1 year old).

Enji is satisfied because Touya's fire is strongest than his own and begins to train Touya. We know he started because Touya said all his father taught him was how to raise his temperature... then lessons got stopped when Touya was 3, in what was likely summer, as Touya's fire started to burn him. Touya doesn't accept it and continues to train.

Enji claims he didn't know how to stop him and decides that if they have another baby Touya will be forced to give up.

Rei DOESN'T AGREE as she claims this would be cruel toward Touya, who knows why they are having babies.

At this point she doesn't want babies anymore. It's solely Enji who wants them. Look at her expression when Enji insists, she's not happy at all.

She's a good wife though and likely she had done as Enji said, especially since he had painted it as being done for Touya... even though she clearly doesn't believe it'll work. It doesn't, it's just cruel.

Natsuo is conceived on that same year, around October, and is born when Touya is 4, in July.

Touya is hurt but doesn't stop training.

Around April, in the year in which Tōya has turned 7, Shouto is conceived and has birth in January, when Touya is about to turn 8.

We aren't told what Rei was thinking in regard to have a 4th child but she likely has seen having Natsuo not only didn't stop Touya, as he continued training, but gave her even less time to devote to Touya and Fuyumi. Likely again she has just submitted to Enji's will because this was what was expected of her, meaning he didn't have to drag her to bed and force himself on her, she was aware he married her to have babies and society expected her to give him free access so she likely didn't even think she could try to put up a fight.

She's still no more a person who wants to have more kids, though legally it wouldn't be acknowledged as rape.

Could Touya have known of his mother's unhappiness at having more babies?

Yeah, sure he could.

He didn't need to waltz on them having non-consensual sex, he might have overheard them talking without them realizing since they talked about it, he might overheard his mother complaining with his grandmother about it at the phone, or he might just have figured out by how their relation has deteriorated that Rei isn't thrilled to spend the nights with his father and give him more children.

If he figured out or not though is not relevant with his speech because in it he didn't say Enji forced himself on Rei, he just say Enji forced her to marry him and that he continued to have her give birth to his children until he got Shouto.

For a more step by step retake of the whole story of the Todoroki family I recommend this post: THE TODOROKI FAMILY: QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS

I hope this helps to clear up things and thanks for your ask!

BNHA Observations, speculations and assorted info: Pre-marriage Todoroki Enji (Part 2)

So, in order to write my fic, I spend much time observing canon scenes, comparing the manga and the anime version, take note of details, translations and info in them as well as finding out how are some things called.

Since what I noticed/speculated/found out can be of use for other fic authors I thought to share as well.

Resources:

Chap. 301 "The Wrong Way to Put Out a Fire, Part 1" (火の不始末前編Hi no Fushimatsu Zenpen) Chap. 31 "The Boy Born with Everything" (全てを持って生まれた男の子 Subete o Motte Umareta Otoko no Ko) Chap. 302 "The Wrong Way to Put Out a Fire, Part 2" (火の不始末後編 Hi no Fushimatsu Kōhen) Chap. 187 "Flaming Roar! vs. Nomu: High-End" (燃えよ轟け！VS 脳無：ハイエンド Moeyo Todoroke! vs. Nōmu: High-End) Chap. 387 "Congealing" (煮凝り 'Nikogori')

Ep. 130 "The Wrong Way to Put Out a Fire" (火の不始末 Hi no Fushimatsu) Ep. 19 "The Boy Born with Everything" (全てを持って生まれた男の子 Subete o Motte Umareta Otoko no Ko) Ep. 88 "His Start" (始まりの Hajimarino)

School Briefs I "Notice from School"

OBSERVATIONS, SPECULATIONS AND ASSORTED INFO:

As of now we only have two more scenes which depict Enji pre marriage, the first being his 'Miai' with Rei and the second being their first 'date'.

The scene are flashbacks placed while Enji is at the hospital so first let's look at...

THE FULL SEQUENCE AS IT IS IN THE MANGA

So now let's focus solely on the scene in question and, since it has been transposed in anime version (and the anime added scenes) let's have a...

COMPARISON BETWEEN THE MANGA AND THE ANIME

The anime starts by adding more scenery, we see what could be the Himura house, which is also a traditional Japanese house... though with all the green it has around it seems its garden is a lot bigger than the one of the Todoroki mansion.

Actually it might also not be the Himura mansion but some place they have chosen for the meeting but it seems more a traditional Japanese house than anything else and the Himura used to be wealthy so they might still have their old residence and anyway... who knows?

The anime gives us also a close up of the Shishiodoshi (鹿威し literally, "deer-frightening" or "boar-frightening") device or Sōzu (添水 "Adding water") fountain, a bamboo water funtain originally derived by a devices to frighten away animals that pose a threat to agriculture and who's currently part of the visual and aural design of gardens, and are used primarily for their aesthetic value.

We also see the Soribashi (反り橋 "Arched bridge"), a red arched bridge, over a pond (probably a Koike (鯉池 "koi pond") filled with Koi (鯉) carps, or, more specifically, Nishikigoi (錦鯉 “brocaded carp”) carps.

'Jiki No.1 no yobigoe takai Endeavor-sama kara o koe kake itadakeru to wa yume ni mo omoi masendeshita! Gyōkō no kiwami ni gozaimasu!!' 「次期No.1の呼び声高いエンデヴァー様からお声掛けいただけるとは夢にも思いませんでした！僥倖の極みにございます！！」 "I never dreamed that I would be approached by Endeavor, who has been hailed as the next No. 1! We are at the height of luck!!"

The anime shows Rei's father bowing to Enji while the dialogue has him calling Endeavor-sama. He uses his Hero name and the -sama (様) suffix which is highly respectful.

Interesting enough, even if Enji is marrying Rei because he doesn't think he can surpass All Might, according to Rei's father there's many people who think he'll do it.

All Might and Endeavor have around 10 years of difference as, during the final fight with All for One All Might says he's more than halfway through 50 while Enji should be 46.

In chap 165 Enji has said at 20 he figured out he couldn't surpass All Might, and we know Touya was born when he was 22 so, considering Touya should have been conceived when he was 21, either he's still 20 or he's just turned 21 and he and Rei will have a fast marriage.

On another side, Rei's father never mention Enji also coming from a prestigious family, just that he's the Number 2 Hero and, possibly, will become the Number 1, which might hint to how Enji didn't come from an equally prestigious family and make a name for himself after he became a Hero.

The anime partially shows us Rei's father's face. In teh manga he's just a black shadow but he gives me the feeling Horikoshi planned him to look different than in the anime.

The anime changes the background a little, in the manga there's a scroll on the wall, in the anime we see white Fusuma (襖) doors, vertical rectangular panels which can slide from side to side (they're often painted with scenery but not in this case).

Also the glass window in the manga is close while in the anime is open.

They are in a Washitsu (和室) room, a Japanese-style room with a Tatami (畳) mat flooring and they're sitting on Zaisu (座椅子) chairs, Japanese chairs with a back and no legs.

In the garden there's also a Ishi-dōrō (石灯籠 "stone lantern"') lantern, a lantern made of stone in its Yukimi doro (織部灯籠 "Snow-viewing Lantern") variant. The customary placement is at the edge of land and water and the original Japanese character describing this lantern may have meant ”floating light”.

The anime adds Rei's father turning toward her but doesn't show Rei looking at the side. She's just staring down. As for Enji he seems to frown a little.

The group is drinking tea. In the manga they're probably using normal Chawan (茶碗 "tea bowl") bowls, traditional Japanese bowls used for preparing and drinking tea.

In the anime though they seem to be using the Chinese Gaiwan (盖碗) bowls, Chinese lidded bowls without a handle, used for the infusion of tea leaves and the consumption of tea, which consists of a bowl, a lid, and a saucer and they are still used by tea connoisseurs all around the world, as a simple piece of teaware that gives the brewer a lot of control over the tea.

I might be wrong though, maybe they're just Chawan bowls or maybe the Himura are using their best tea set, which happens to be a Chinese one.

The anime then adds exposition from Enji's point of view.

'Ichiō, miai to iu katachi o totte wa iruga, koreha "kosei" kon' 一応、見合いという形をとってはいるが、これは"個性"婚 "Just in case, although it was made to look like an arranged marriage meeting, this was a "Quirk" marriage."

'Jishin no "kosei" o yori kyōka shite tsuga seru tame ni haigūsha o erabi, kodomo o uma seru tame no kekkon' 自身の"個性"をより強化して継がせるために配偶者を選び、子どもを産ませる為の結婚 "A marriage to have children in which the spouse is chosen in order to strengthen and pass on one's "Quirk""

'Ore wa nozonda noda. Ore no honō no "kosei" to kōri himura-ke ichizoku no kōri no "kosei" ga majiwareba, All Might o mo koeru Hero ga umidaseru to' 俺は望んだのだ。俺の炎の"個性"と氷叢家一族の氷の"個性"が交われば、オールマイトをも超えるヒーローが生み出せると I wanted it. If my fire "Quirk" and the ice "Quirk" of the Himura family were combined, I could create a hero that would surpass All Might.

'Katsute wa meikadatta Himura-ke mo ima wa aoikitoiki…' かつては名家だった氷叢家も今は青息吐息… "The Himura family, which was once a prestigious family, was now in deep distress…"

'No.2 Hero no chii to meiyo, soshite djisankin meate ni Himura-ke no tōshu wa ore no teian o assari to ukeireta' No.2ヒーローの地位と名誉、そして持参金目当てに氷叢家の当主は俺の提案をあっさりと受け入れた "The head of the Himura family easily accepted my proposal, aiming for the status and prestige of the No. 2 hero, as well as the dowry."

'Kotowaru koto mo dekita hazuda' 断る事もできたハズだ "She could have refused."

'Daga kanojo wa "kosei" kondearu koto mo shōchi no ue de, ie no tame ni ore no tsuma ni naru to iu' だが彼女は"個性"婚である事も承知の上で、家の為に俺の妻になると言う "However, even if she was aware that it was a "Quirk" marriage, and said that she will become my wife for the sake of her family."

So... this exposition remarks it's a Quirk Marriage but they don't quite want to admit it so they make it pass for an arranged marriage. Because if your family sells you off but it's not for the purpose to strenghten your husband's Quirk, it's so much better. -_-

Anyway at the meeting there's just Enji, Rei and the "family head" (当主 'tōshu'), which is generally assumed to be Rei's father (but it could have been her grandfather if he was still alive... or her brother if her father died prematurely).

Generally in arranged marriages, or better in the 'Miai' (見合い, "matchmaking"), the marmatching meetings made to organize arranged marriages there's either a mediator or the parents of the two who're meant to marry. Enji though is alone. We can speculate that Rei's mother (whom we know is alive) is absent because she's preparing more tea or retrieving sweets... but Enji went there alone and we'll never, through the whole story, hear about his mother.

Maybe she died too.

While in the manga the family head only sounds honoured to receive Enji's proposition in the anime he looks at Rei greedily, as if instead than Rei she's saying a stack of bills. I feel bad for Rei.

On a sidenote this clashes a bit with how Shouto presented the whole thing back in the past. Shouto made it look as if they were pressured into agreeing to him marrying Rei...

...while in the manga they just seem glad he asked to marry her and in the anime they seem delighted to sell her to him.

Also the anime in this scene and the manga in another scene implied Rei could still have refused. She was likely pressured but could still say no, while Shouto paints it as if she and her family had no choice but to sell her off... though it can be a matter of translation.

'Jisseki to kin dake wa aru otokoda… Oyaji wa haha no shinzoku o marumekomi' 「実績と金だけはある男だ... 親父は母の親族を丸め込み」 "He is a man with accomplishments and money. . . My old man won over/seduced/persuaded my mother's relatives"

'Marumekomi' (丸め込み) seems to have a not so positive implication as it's used to imply you manage to talk someone into doing what you want, as if the Himura didn't really want to sell Rei and needed to be persuaded.

Tōya too also seem to imply the Himura were forced into selling Rei...

'Endeavor wa katsute chikara ni kogarete imashita. 「エンデヴァーはかつて力に焦がれていました」 "Endeavor was once thirsty for power."

'Soshite All Might o koe renai zetsubō kara yori tsuyoi "kosei" o motta ko o tsukuru tame' 「そしてオールマイトを超えれない絶望からより強い"個性"を持った子を作る為」 "And out of despair of not being able to surpass All Might, in order to create a child with a stronger "Quirk"

'Muriyari tsuma o metorimashita' 「無理やり妻を娶りました」 "He took a wife by force"

Tōya uses 'muriyari' (無理やり), which means "Forcibily, against one's will".

In the manga he'll also say (without Rei correcting him)...

'Obāchan-tachi ga binbō shi tetakara okāsan o uttandaro' 「おばあちゃん達が貧乏してたからお母さんを売ったんだろ」 "Grandmother and the others were poor so they sold mother, isn't that it?"

'Okāsan wa sō suru shika nakattandaro' 「お母さんはそうするしかなかったんだろ」 "Mother had no choice but to do that, isn't that it?"

Here it doesn't say his father forced them to sell his mother, but that his grandparents did it because they were poor and insists on how Rei "had no choices" (しかなかった 'shikanakatta')... which Rei doesn't deny with him but will later deny in an inner monologue.

'Sentakushi wa kagira rete itakeredo' 選択肢は限られていたけれど "Although my options were limited"

'Erande susunda no wa watashi no ashi de' 選んで進んだのは私の足でーーー "I chose to move forward with my feet."

'Semete sono-sakide wa waratte iyou to' せめてその先では笑っていようと "At least I'll try to smile there"

'Omotte ita no ni...' 思っていたのにーーー… "That's what I was thinking…"

She claims she had limited options but, confirming Enji's words, she still could choose.

I should probably say that the impression I get from Tōya first saying it was Enji who forced Rei to marry against her will (same as Shouto), and then him instead choosing to blame his grandparents for Rei's marriage, with Enji and, more important, Rei, feels like a retcon (and since this chapter already contained a retcon in its magazine version I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case here as well).

Of course we can excuse it with an 'at the time Tōya was still longing for Enji's love and didn't want to blame him too much...' only to remember he was blaming him in that same chapter in his chat with Natsuo so... whatever.

And, in addition to this, there's also the narrator in "School Briefs I: Notice from School" which says Enji "singled out his would-be wife and forced her into a Quirk marriage".

Really, this doesn't make it look like Rei even had the option to refuse... only for chap 301/302 to change the situation having Enji say she could refuse, Rei saying she chose that path for her family's sake and Tōya not blaming anymore his father but his grandparents for that marriage.

So, skipping the old bits as retconned out of the story, honestly the impression I got of the Himura from the scene was they saw this as their golden chance as soon as they were asked out so Enji didn't really have to work on being persuasive. Maybe it's just me, though we'll later learn the Himura were already into organized Quirk marriages... however their own were to strenghten their own Quirk as they tended to marry among distant relatives.

In Japan is considered incest only if you marry someone who's a second or a third degree relative so I guess they could safely marry among forth degree relatives.

Rei also will claim she

Anyway really, I doubt Enji had to do much work to persuade the Himura and, if he hadn't shown up, her family would have still likely try to organize her marriage so...

The anime cuts Enji's pouting face as he and Rei walks around the place.

The flowers Rei is watching are Gentians.

In the series we see Enji gifting them to Rei in November as she has them during the Second Hero Billboard chart which takes place in November but she also has them during the Paranormal Liberation War which takes place in March.

Now, we can assume the first kind of Gentians Rei has are likely the ‘gentiana scabra’, a specie of gentian with a blue (青色)/purple color (紫色), also called Japanese Gentian. In Japan their name is Rindō (リンドウ/竜胆) and well, they're basically The Gentian in Japan as when you mean to say just gentian in Japan you say 'Rindō'.

However this comes with a problem. In Japan the ‘gentiana scabra’ blossoms in Autumn, from September to November... so it's fine for Enji to gift them to Rei in November for the Hero Billboard chart... but it would be difficult to do the same in March, before/after the Paranormal Liberation War,

The alternative is that the second gentian we see, the one she's holding in March is actually a 'gentiana zollingeri' or Fude Rindō (フデリンドウ), another gentian typical of Asia which is either white or blue and whose flowering period is Spring, usually from April to May... but the problem is I've heard this gentian is usually quite small so... no idea. For now I'll let the guessing to who knows more about gentians than me.

Now let's focus a moment on what Rei says...

'Kono ohana watashi ga suki tte itta no' 「このお花私が好きって言ったの」 "I told him I like/love these flowers"

'？' 「？」 "？"

'Hajimete atta koro tatta ichido' 「初めて会った頃たった一度」 "Only once when we first met"

Actually, the Japanese text in this scene matches more with how we saw it being played out. In the flashback Rei never said they were her favourite flowers and here she confirms she only told him she liked/loved them.

Anyway, according to this scene, this mean they have that walk in which they saw the gentians on their first meeting.

And that's all we know about Enji pre marriage form the manga.

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