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plus some pre-horrors wwph and thdph bc I don’t feel like making them full designs rn
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#I wanted to incorporate the album cover cuz I feel like no one does that for wwph#anyways the story for that is like. bro got trapped in purgatory after memento mori and that’s just. how he looks now#he’s self conscious leave him alone#chonny jash#azzy’s art#cj wwph#cj thdpw#cj tmph
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Okay so it wasnt announced today..but maybe cuz she didnt want to release something the same day as Olivia Rodrigo? I kinda wonder why she hinted at today though in the Colbert interview. She did release a Fearless chapter but everything was pointing to 1989. I guess it gives us a little more time to imagine or brainstorm the cover. I agree with you..I would want something simple but bright colors instead to match the feel of the album. I know the original didnt really have bright colors though so I dont know what it could be. I agree that she'd keep the same style..half her face. I think a city skyline background could be cool but maybe unrealistic. I wonder what her hair or outfit would be..i know she basically just wears a tshirt anyway so would it just be a similar shirt..or saying I love NY lol. I like your ideas..i hadn't considered her taking the picture..and I think she will come up with something cool and creative that would match each album rather than just a filter. My guess for the announcement is after next week cuz Olivia's album coming out, but also I've seen people saying if 1989 could come out at the end of June which would only be a month but Fearless was a two month wait..so in July? Or it could be a shorter wait but I also saw people thinking it was gonna be announced June 4th. I dont mind cuz my sister and I are getting ready for the new Twenty One Pilots album next week which will keep us busy until then but I thought she just might announce it for today cuz she hinted at this date. I also kinda just wanted June cuz my bday is in a month, and I just wanna know the date, cover, vault songs lol but dont really mind waiting as much for the actual album compared to other people are upset about not getting anything yet. I wouldnt want it to be too long though.
yeah i was definitely expecting/hoping for more than a fearless chapter today! you could be right though, like she was going to move the evermore release so she didn’t clash with paul mccartney’s album release, i think she definitely does take into account other artists’ release schedules. weirdly i feel like the original 1989 cover colour palette doesn’t really match the album that much, i think bright colours would definitely work well for it and something incorporating new york would be cool because that’s such a big motif from the era. i agree i don’t really mind waiting for the album itself, especially since we already know the songs lol, but i’m so curious about the cover and vault songs!
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Okay so there’s just so many things pointing to Taylor being queer.
There’s the TIME Gala where she sang several songs. But most notably, her songs Delicate and New Year’s Day had slight lyric changes... the pronouns!!! “We can’t make any promises now can we babe, but she can make me a drink” AND “I want her midnights, I’ll be cleaning up bottles with you on New Year’s Day”
From what I’ve been able to find, the delicate lyric change has been happening since June of 2018, aka pride month. It also seems to only be during live performances. Here’s a link to where I’m documenting each place I’ve heard the lyric change occcur in: https://i-want-her-midnights-ts.tumblr.com/post/184750092965/delicate-taylor-swift
(It’s especially clear when you listen to 1-2-3 LGB compilations, since you can tell half the time she sings “you” and half the time she sings “she”)
Since then there’s been more and more things pointing to a queer Taylor. We also know something importants gonna happen in June cuz of the various date clues that’s been identified.
For ME! there’s the entire chrysalis theory right? And reinforced with all the butterflies and breaking out and growing into yourself. Then there’s all pastel rainbow aesthetics, and a ton of rainbow hearts, etc. Even in the butterfly mural thing for the single cover there’s rainbows breaking the glass around it. Then there’s the rainbow that’s breaking out of the sky. And her standing in rainbows? Oh and the transition between her in the dress and hair curled and very ladylike and Brandon being super traditional masculine, and then when she transitions into the suit and briefcases and everything. More of an androgynous look. (credit to Lauren Lipman, and their video “EVERY SINGLE Easter Egg You Missed In Taylor Swift’s ME! Music Video | DECODED”, since I got all this compiled info from them)
Okay and then like her posts, the videos (especially the lyric video) etc, like yes paste rainbow aesthetic, but also SO MANY BI COLOURS! And then for her FaceTime interview she literally is wearing bi colours! Like her shirt is literally bi colours! And when she’s talking about making the song into a duet she literally corrects herself from saying a guy to a love interest!!! And like all the recent press stuff is alsmot always bi colours, or has some component of bi colours/rainbow.
Even the EW cover where she’s wearing a pride pin and a rainbow hearts pin. The entire bi colours aesthetic is stil super prevalent, and even some pan colours in some of her recent press stuff.
ALSO, in that cover, EW explains the Easter eggs they chose to add using the pins, aka cats, tack 5, etc. but they said the other unexplained ones are the ones Taylor herself chose and wasn’t going to explain. And since EW didn’t explain the pride pins, it still adds up!!
Oh and for the Troye pin, I saw someone found the tweet where he said back in December that there’s more secrets he can’t tell again, which matches with the timeline of Taylor saying she recorded all of the songs in a span of three months. Oh and you know, he’s basically a queer icon? That too.
AND, in her Easter Eggs explained video also with EW, there’s just so many bi colours. And talking about butterflies breaking free an the snake being misunderstood, and like... misunderstood and a hindering reputation of being straight? Preventing opportunities of breaking free, coming out? And that links back or her delicate speech, especially since that’s the track where she chose to give the pride speech on REP tour??? And since that’s the song she sings in a ton of recent events!
Okay last EW part- the interview. So she says in it that TS7 is more vulnerable and personal than ever before, and how’s she’s more brave now! Also fits perfectly with coming out!
She also showed that she alludes to things in interviews and stuff right? So when she talks about lady gaga she mentions how she pivots and does the opposite of what you’d expect... aka, hmmmm opposite of what you’d expect from Taylor.. for her to be queer!
Okay and her outfit with the kaleidoscope shaker ring. Yes the kaleidoscope theory, but ALSO it’s literally bi coloured!
So my thought is, it’s not just that she’s breaking out of her shell and shedding her skin and becoming/accepting herself, she’s ALSO going to come out to us in this era at some point. I also think it’s either going to be incorporated into the album somehow or it might just be a pronoun change throughout TS7 and it might not be addressed. I was really hoping the countdown or the ME! video would’ve had her coming out, cause seriously I’d just love for this era to have a queer @taylorswift 💜💙💚💛🧡❤️
(I’m not too sure if I agree with this other theory I kinda have, which is that all the references and clothing choices of yellow (from Elle, to MV, red carpet, performances, etc) might represent her colour code being yellow, which is I think motivated by fun, which yes. I wouldn’t be surprised about. But also colour code and other personality tests and stuff are so stereotypical queer things!
There’s also this other iffy theory about the timing of this and her record label changing. Cuz maybe there was something in her old contract that made it so she kinda had to present as straight, or at least be straight passing? But that’s so speculative that I don’t rly feel comfortable putting it in the main theory part above)
#taylor swift#taylor#swift#TS7#ts7 theories#am I close Taylor?#swifties#ts7iscoming#queer#lgbtqia+#delicate#new years day#lyric changes#theory#taylornation
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If you were at SM and you had full control over the NCT concept what would be your plans for each subunit and NCT as a whole?
WOW. WHAT A QUESTION.
I don’t know if I have an exact idea but I have thought about this in the sense that I try to understand what SM is trying to do with NCT.
I think I watched a video where someone said they thought that the concept of NCT is something that SM has been working towards since Super Junior and EXO. And there were some things they said that made sense. But at the same time to me it kinda just feels like SM had two (2.1/2.3?) boy group lineups they wanted to debut but didn’t want to debut as separate groups to reduce competition? Because NCT U, 127, and Dream debuted the same year and there was no new units until wayv, which technically isn’t nct now?, in 2019. So in a sense it feels like we’ve had the same big group since 2016? If they had staggered their debuts it wouldn’t. That spiel has nothing to do with answering the question I just wanted to get that off my chest. But if SM were to really commit to their own concept.
I think I would limit the units about 7? Idk it’s not a super important thing but in theory these are all subunits and 10 people feels like too much to call a sub unit anymore?
I feel like they should give each unit more specific niche concepts to differentiate them. The alternative is to promote the individuals / group dynamics more???
Better line distribution SM trains their trainees well so might as well use them. If you’re ready to debut them, then give them lines.
No unit gets a back to back comeback. Let the units rest and give others a chance to shine
Unit interactions/collabs sometimes they group feels very separated? It does necesarily have to be anything as big as NCT 2018 but maybe like a youtube dance cover with members of dif units esp wayv because you can post their mvs on your official label channel but letting their friends and technical members talk about them is a no????
NCT U
I’d rename NCT U to NCT R or Rotate or Intro or Sleep or Waking. It’s main function would be to introduce new NCT members. Hence the possible intro name. Sleep or Waking cuz that’s part of nct’s concept and sleep is the beginning of a dream but waking up is when you start your real life. Or rotate since it’s a rotational unit. If I want a subunit larger than the number of debut ready trainees then I would rotate in members from other units, (and not just the popular members). They would probably comeback at least once a year to introduce any new members.
Since it’s a rotational unit I would want the unit to change concept and genre each comeback so that it allows new members to shine in their debut
NCT Dream
I guess I would leave this and allow it to be like an NCT U Jr. The intro group for any minor aged debut ready trainees. Put more of an emphasis on the graduation thing? Like every year have some way of signifying that they’re “moving up a year”. They’d keep doing youthful concept
This is more of a selfish thing than a business or concept thing but i would prob want to make ot7 dream a new permanent unit once they all graduate? The graduated members would just have to be rotate thru
NCT 127
I kinda want to dub them the official beat-heavy performance team? And let them continue what they’ve been doing except they’d just comeback less.
NCT Japan
I was quite surprised when 127 put out a full Japanese album bc the nct goal is to have subunits around the world and 127 is the seoul unit(their name is even based on that). With japan being so close and their already being a Japanese member I assumed there would eventually be a Japanese subunit. So I’d make one
WAYV
I will give them that it’s probably not possible to promote in the exact same way bc the relationship with China but can we at least get an official schedule? So whatever few things are happening we can know about. I would release a full version of this (and make that their core sound?) Put Winwin upfront more, he’s so wildly popular and yet it rarely gets seen? Give Kun a chance to at least work on some b sides he’s keeps talking about how he can write and even posted that video of something he wrote (I know SM isn’t as big on having their idols involved in the process but a girl can dream)
Now that I’m thinking about it I’m wondering if the point is simply to have multiple units around the world with the same concept. I’m assuming they should be different bc that’s usually how subunits work but maybe that’s not necessarily SM’s goal.
Possible concepts
NCT Crooner Unit
r&b and soul concept. Maybe this would also be rotational unit bc I need a unit where vocalists can really shine.
NCT Rap
Also rotational? One could argue that 127 is already rap centered enough but they also are doing full out dances when they perform so I’d like to see a unit where they could focus more on their rap deliveries while performing. Also Mark and Taeyong wouldn’t be allowed for at least 2 or 3 releases.
NCT Scientists/Engineers
This is more of a visual concept but I think it would be fun to really explicitly play with the technology in neo culture technology like they could be engineers building new shit or they could like be time travelers who actually move technology forward in each era by gifting someone with technology or knowledge. They could do a cyborg concept. Actually if they incorporated technology into their lyrics it could be more than just a visual concept too. Think if Black Mirror were a music video.
NCT Culture
Same thing as the Science concept but basically with like art and fashion. Traditional Korean concept, theater concept, high fashion concept, museum v street art concept, foodie concept, etc.
To be fair to SM this is an incredibly complex concept to manage and it’s never been done before so they are making it up as they go along. Realistically not everything I mentioned is implementable and at least not immediately but there are definitely things I think they can improve on. I think that’s all my thoughts for now.
#wow#i spent hours on this#it's such a huge question#i wanna hear everyone else's thoughts now#key talks#theindividualist#ask#answered#sweet sweet moots#czennies
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Essay: The difficult humanity of Iggy Pop’s solo discography
Most interviewers will talk about The Stooges, maybe touch on the Bowie years and leap to whatever album Iggy Pop is currently promoting. There’s a lot of history missing in between all that.
Iggy’s solo discography, from New Values to Après, is a lot to take in. It truly runs the gamut, from radio pleas to experimental fuck-offs. I’ll try to provide nuance and context wherever possible as I go through each kind of Iggy record from this period. That said, it isn’t an easy body of work to assess.
Here comes success: Pop albums
Iggy’s attempts to fit into the mainstream are fascinating. New Values (1979) possibly had the the greatest chance to become a hit. It’s an album that does a fine job threading the needle of Iggy’s punk, avant-garde and pop sides. You don’t have to imagine too hard to see a song like “Tell Me a Story” getting radio play.
New Values also may be one of Iggy’s strongest solo albums. Songs like “New Values,” “I’m Bored” and “Five Foot One” are undeniable classics. There are few flaws to be found (I’ll get to that later).
There’s a genuine commitment to the material on Party (1981), but crossover mega-stardom proved to be elusive. It may have been hard for audiences to forget this guy making radio moves was someone who, only a few years prior, was known for rolling on broken glass.
It’s a bummer because there’s more to Party than the cover would lead you to believe. It’s a solid 80s album with more lyrical depth than what you’d find on the radio in that era. No one could argue it’s his best, but you can definitely put it on and not skip a track.
I met you out at the Mardi Gras On a French Quarter sidewalk When you kissed me, it was strong I wonder if you'll hear this song
- “Pumpin’ for Jill” from Party
Iggy lets his crooning take center stage for the first time as well. It’s more fully developed on later albums like Preliminers or Avenue B, but it didn’t have far to go. His version of “Sea of Love” on Party is one of the best, falling just short of Cat Power’s cover.
Blah-Blah-Blah (1986) is just a well-executed 80s pop record, but you do get the nagging feeling it doesn’t feel as natural as other Iggy albums. The best songs are one’s like “Cry for Love” where he brings out his incredible goth-y croon to great affect. And it’s hard to hate a song like “Real Wild Child (Wild Child)” even if it is desperately clawing at the pop charts.
Solider is solid but doesn’t quite reach the heights of the focused, but flawed, New Values. “Take Care of Me” and “I Need More” are great, straight forward punk songs. “Mr. Dynamite” is one of his better stabs at incorporating pop and avant-garde. “Loco Mosquito” is a solid pop song that slips in punk lyrics. “Get Up and Get Out” is a rare feminist song that works perfectly in its simplicity.
I'm wondering fellas if you've heard the news The chicks are sick and tired of being abused Now I saw all this on the wide screen You know that chick Bette Davis split right out of the scene
- “Get Up and Get Out” from Soldier
“I’m a Conservative” is Iggy’s tongue-in-cheek lyricism firing on all cylinders. It’s placed next to “Dog Food” where Iggy thumbs his nose up at all the stereotypes people had hung on his shoulders up to that point, for better or worse.
Cold Metal: LOUD rock albums
Iggy has consistently said how boring big dumb rock albums are in interviews, especially Nu Metal. Yet at different points he still feels a need to put up a big ugly noise, while slipping in interesting lyrics, just to prove he can. This has meant different things at different points.
If you can get past the terrible hair metal-esque cover art and seriously flawed production, Instinct (1988) is actually kind of interesting. It pales next to the Stooges albums, but if you’re more partial to the rocking side of Iggy’s career you could do worse. Some highlights include “Easy Rider,” “Cold Metal,” “Strong Girl” and “High on You.”
The worst of these “rocking” albums, and possibly his worst album overall, might be Naughty Little Doggie (1996). It’s just sort of an embarrassing slog. The best songs (like “Knucklehead”) are passable and have a nice grinding blues-y thing going on. It sounds like the album a rocker would make to stay up to date with punks in the 90s.
Naughty Little Doggie also contains some repulsive and confessional lyrics, which I’ll get to later. It’s an understatement to say this thing is probably questionable to a lot of ears, but it is important.
American Caesar (1993) is interesting. It sounds like Iggy striking a good balance between rocking out and introspection. It’s also sort of a concept record.
“Jealousy” is a great acoustic song with simmering hatred just barely contained. There’s a great “Louie, Louie” cover that adds some political commentary. “Boogie Boy” is probably his best song making fun of big dumb rock music. There are standout songs, but the thing works best when you listen to the whole thing.
Now every mornin’ I wake up at nine I'm eating cheerios with red wine I'm reading that book but it's not too good Cuz my boogie head is made outta wood It's a fact i get so much joy When i can go out and be a boggie boy
- “Boogie Boy” from American Caesar
American Caesar is very long, with a runtime of over 70 minutes. You have to be in the mood for it and ready to hang in there for the whole thing.
As I revisited all of these albums I was shocked by how much I liked Beat ‘Em Up (2001). It’s extremely heavy and extremely funny. I made the mistake of reading reviews about it before I actually listened to it. It’s much more than a big dumb rock album.
A song like “Football” does a lot of things at once and somehow succeeds. Iggy is able to make a song where he imagines himself as a football being thrown around sound oddly touching. “Mask” and “V.I.P.” are are some of his best rant-y songs in a long career of them.
Complicated crushed up disappointed squirming angry thrusting stabbing regretting starving greedy human alien being, struggling down the street, up the alley, in the elevator, through the party, to the office, in the bedroom, on your way to the morgue.
- “Mask” from Beat ‘Em Up
It’s also HEAVY. It may even be heavier than the Stooges records in some ways. Mooseman from Body Count joins his band, The Trolls, on the album to provide some great lowend (sadly it was his last album). I never thought I’d find myself getting into this album but it’s actually pretty fantastic, although a bit long.
It’s totally what The Weirdness should’ve been. With a bit of time I could see this being a bit of a cult classic. Plus it gave birth to this great performance.
Till wrong feels right: Famous collaborator albums
Brick by Brick (1990) is a well-constructed early 90s rock record and it sounds like it. It’s damn catchy, especially “Candy.” It features session pros and rock royalty from the time like Slash. It’s all executed well, but it’s not really something you’ll return to often.
One interesting song on Brick by Brick is “Butt City,” which is as goofy the title suggests but does slip in a some pretty good social commentary about racial profiling by police. This and “Mixing the Colors” from American Caesar explain Iggy’s views on race in a plain way, which was overdue.
The cops are well-groomed, with Muscled physiques in Butt Town Their tan uniforms are tailored in chic In Butt Town Any young black male who walks down the street Is going to get stopped by a car full of meat But the girl with the hair Flies by in her underwear
- “Butt Town” from Brick by Brick
Skull Ring (2003) is an album that is the epitome of hit or miss. Iggy brought in marquee punks like Green Day and Sum 41 and it actually kind of works. His Peaches collaborations on the album are fascinating but aren’t songs you’ll come back to often. Their best collaboration is a song called “Kick It” on the Peaches’ album Fatherfucker.
The bad songs with new collaborators are at least interesting. Strangely, songs with the newly reformed Stooges and previous backing band The Trolls are the ones that don’t jump out. There are a few gems like “Superbabe,” “Whatever” and “Dead Rockstar,” though.
King of the dogs: French albums
The French albums Iggy made are both stunners. They seem ridiculous on first blush but, once you get over your own preconceptions, they’re great.
Préliminaires (2009) has it’s roots in a Michel Houellebecq’s novel, New Orleans Jazz and bleak existentialism. “King of the Dogs” is such a perfectly suited cover for Iggy. “I Want to Go to the Beach” is a devastatingly minimal plea. “Party Time” is a goofy song with a very 80s propulsive bassline. I can’t say enough good things about this album.
Après (2012) is great in a lot of the same ways but is a more straight forward covers album. The selection is great. His version of Yoko Ono’s “Going Away Smiling” is perfect, though it’s hard to beat the original. There are also some great Serge Gainsbourg, Beatles and Cole Porter covers. This is definitely worth seeking out.
Buried in a melting coffin: Experimental albums
It’s been resurrected with the documentary Gimme Danger, but most don’t think about the Stooges being one of the first noise rock bands. This is apparent in some of their discography, but the very early version of the band (when they were called the Psychedelic Stooges) supposedly sounded like The Melvins. Iggy even played the vacuum during shows. There are no recordings from this period. This is all relayed by Iggy in many different interviews. He was also very closely associated with the Andy Warhol crew and drew from a variety of boundary pushing influences as a record store clerk in Ann Arbor. In his solo discography, this willingness to push boundaries comes out on occasion.
Zombie Birdhouse (1982) was recorded in Haiti, following Party. It’s a very difficult album to unpack, so I’ll do so carefully. Imagine Iggy made his version of David Bowie’s Lodger album, at least in terms of lyrical content. Most of the album revolves around the idea of an American in a place he doesn’t understand. It’s the most political thing he ever recorded.
The opener “Run Like a Villain” depicts America bombing its poorer adversaries. It’s a wonder that he rarely ever made songs like this since it’s so effective. For example:
Big Dick is a thumbs-up guy He shot a missile in the sky It functioned just as advertised Until the fire made him cry
“Run Like a Villain Zombie Birdhouse
“The Villagers” is a bit hard to take but it fits the tourist theme of the album. “Watching the News” is a super experimental song about Iggy doing just that in a very uncomfortable, but effective way. “Ordinary Bummer” and “Platonic” are solid ballads. The best songs are the uptempo “Eat or Be Eaten” and “The Horse Song.” The ladder has these crazy drone-y parts that are molded into something insanely catchy. I’d submit it as one of the best songs he’s ever done.
This is such a vastly underrated album that was sadly undercut a bit by the production at the time. That’s since been improved on the remastered version, which I can’t recommend enough.
Avenue B (1999) is very reflective. It’s jazzy and slower moving than most of his discography. My guess is that his new album, Free, is going to be very similar to this based on the songs that have been released so far. That’s a good thing.
Collaborators like John Medeski provide a great foundation for Iggy’s lyrics to be on full display. Everything from acoustic guitars to bongos crop up, creating a subdued and gentle springboard to dive off.
You can tell Avenue B was an album he wanted to make for a long time. It explores a lot of difficult things. From being in love with fascist to the problems of a relationship with a much younger woman.
This is a course corrective from Naughty Little Doggie, picking up where “Look Away” left off. It’s the beginning of Iggy becoming a bit more accountable for his past. There are still some cringe-y moments, especially on the otherwise great “I Felt the Luxury,” that don’t age well. But, on the whole, it’s honest and the start of a new chapter.
(Don’t) look away: Contradictions and skeletons
You don’t have to look hard through Iggy’s solo discography to find "problematic” lyrics. The messages aren’t always handled well but they’re more honest than anything you’ll find on a typical rock record. That’s an important distinction.
Confessions
There’s a sense of willful forgetfulness rock fans have about teenage groupies. Every now and again I’ll hear a movie like Almost Famous called “dated,” even though that’s totally what happened at the time. While many thinkpieces point to the fact that there were laws in place that made this illegal at the time, they totally miss the point about public perception on this issue. Just because there is a law on the books doesn’t mean people will care or follow it. This wasn’t just a rock star problem, even if it’s easier to tell ourselves that.
Pretty much every rock icon you can name from the 80s and earlier has this skeleton in their closet. Iggy is no different in this regard.
The difference maybe is honesty. “Look Away,” from the album Naughty Little Doggie, is a very unpleasant but real song. It doesn’t romanticize the power imbalance and lays it out simply in the first line.
The song discusses Iggy’s relationship with Sable Starr and her subsequent doomed relationship with Johnny Thunders. You’re not going to hear a confession like that on an album by Jimmy Page or the Eagles, even though they have more reason to clench up about the topic. Honesty doesn’t make it easy, though. In Iggy’s own words in the song “What we did once, I wouldn't do again.” Hopefully that’s true.
I don’t excuse any of this, it’s terrible. Especially on an album with a creepy, leering song like “Pussy Walk.” Naughty Little Doggie is a difficult album to sort out. Yet it does lay bare all the downsides of the glam lifestyle (which in many ways he was a part of) and abandons any mythologizing about it. I do think we can discuss these things and learn from them, but I would never recommend anyone buy this record. If you want a reason to not listen further, this is it.
The flip side is that Iggy has been an ardent supporter of feminist art throughout his career and obviously didn’t see creeping on teen girls as a contradiction. He should’ve known better and been held accountable, along with scores of other artists from his era. We know better now.
It seems he does too and has been working to change this prior to the metoo era and has never tried to act like something he’s not. In recent years he has made a tangible efforts to correct these past mistakes, which I don’t see other artists from his era doing. He has recently raised money for the Girls Rock Camp Alliance charity. He’s championed independent female artists like U.S. Girls, Pins, Le Butcherttes, Noveller and countless others. Small steps, but steps nonetheless.
Race
On the whole Iggy been way ahead of the curve on race politics, but has one awfully ignorant song on his album New Values. His views are made a bit clearer on American Caesar and Brick by Brick, but this is still something worth discussing.
In pretty much every interview he’s given he’s made sure to promote the black music that gave birth to rock and roll. Early in his career he backed black musicians as a drummer and has collaborated with them throughout his career. He drew influence from traditions that weren’t his own and made something totally unique. He didn’t steal from other cultures. That’s far ahead of the time.
What isn’t is a song like “African Man” which was either intended to be edgy or goofy, but just ends up being kind of racist. There’s no way around that. It’s just a terrible song that ruins the near perfect New Values. It’s a fucking bummer it was ever recorded and I sincerely hope it doesn’t give someone the idea that it’s funny to say something like that.
I would chalk this up to ignorance that a good deal of white people had at the time. Movies and cartoons depicted Africans as savages and cannibals. I think this is what he was trying to replicate and possibly parody. For someone who supposedly had an interest in social anthropology early in life, I’m surprised he would utilize a stereotype that blatant. This makes me personally think it was supposed to be a parody. There comes a point where none of that matters, though. It sadly ends up giving comfort to those who hold backwards views on race.
I’d love to actually know his thoughts on this stuff, but no one actually asks about it in interviews. It’s frustrating because it’s an issue he gets right more often than not. It’s better to confront these things than to pretend they don’t exist. I think that’s the only way forward.
There is one moment where he does apologize for accidentally using a dated term in a past interview. Maybe that’s a good indication of how he feels today.
Break into your heart: Conclusions
It’s hard to write objectively about an artist who means a lot to you. I tried for years to figure out a way to do this coherently (it probably didn’t end up working). I saw a few OK lists spring up dissecting some of these albums, but they always seemed to just graze the surface. There was always something lacking.
They missed the honesty and humanity on display through a long and complicated career. They would mythologize the usual parts. They would gloss over the difficult parts. They would diminish the efforts for something better.
To me Iggy was a catalyst that didn’t just birth a movement for disengaged youths to stick safety pins through their noses. It was much more than that. He opened a door for marginalized people to scream about the oppression they face daily. He promoted difficult and confrontational art. He is a mirror for America’s best and worst impulses.
For me, and many others, his life represents a struggle to survive and keep getting better. He’s survived bad reviews, severe drug addiction, divorces and a host of other things. There’s something so powerful to that simple notion of getting back up after falling hard that many times. I think that’s why, despite his flaws, people still care.
It’s been difficult to grapple with some of the regrettable parts of his discography. I think everyone is doing that now with their record collections in some way. There are no easy answers. It really comes down to how you want to engage with art and commerce. I’m not going to preach to you or tell you how you should interact with art. Iggy Pop is a lot of things, but above all else he is transparent. I can live with that.
After some deserved success and recognition with Post Pop Depression, he’s ready to step out on a limb with his new album Free. I can’t wait to hear it.
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