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characters confirmed to be related to the dark matter clan in kirby canon: -dark matter (the true final boss of kirby's dream land 2; by definition) -gooey (as confirmed by the manual for kirby's dream land 3) -dark matter cloud (this also includes the three named blobs that split off from it; from kirby's dream land 3 and kirby 64, confirmed by the english website for dream land 3(?), the english manual for kirby 64, and heavily implied by the japanese 20th anniversary encyclopedia; also yes that is its actual name on wikirby) -zero (while wikirby does not say where this has been confirmed, the fandom kirby wiki (ew) does say this has been confirmed in the aforementioned 20th anniversary encyclopedia) -dark matter clone (from kirby: planet robobot; by definition)
characters not confirmed to be related to the dark matter clan in kirby canon (a lot):
-n-z (an enemy from kirby 64 that only appears on the planets dark matter is known to have visited, and on dark star itself, but it's not confirmation of a relationship; it's possible that they're related but not enough information is available to come to that conclusion) -miracle matter (it's a reasonable assumption, but there has been no official confirmation yet) -0² (this is also a reasonable assumption, but hal apparently hasn't even confirmed whether 0² and zero are related, and the bad boss brothers celebration artwork from kirby star allies, which only shows one version of any other given character, shows both zero and 0² simultaneously) -dark mind (his second form does resemble dark matter and zero, but again no official confirmation has been given) -dark nebula (the aforementioned 20th anniversary encyclopedia does not confirm dark nebula is related to dark matter, but does kinda say "oooh they might be related" so while it's possible they're related it's not, like, outright confirmed) -dark crafter (a lot of these are suspected to be related because they look similar and dark crafter is no exception to this but again there is no outright confirmation) -void termina (kirby star allies is chock full of references so there's no surprise that the final boss would reference the dark matter clan in various ways, but it has not been confirmed; while the japanese, chinese, and korean versions of star allies do mention that void termina is "made up of dark matter" (quoting wikirby here), they also say that its made of "heart, soul, and dream matter"... whatever that means) -hyness, his ancestors, and the jambastion religion (lumping these all together since in the japanese version of kirby star allies, hyness states that he and his clan worship dark matter, the substance, rather than dark matter, the character / clan / species; i'm also using this as evidence that the "dark matter" referred to in void termina's description is the substance) -kirby (i think this stems from people drawing a line from kirby to void termina, and then from void termina to dark matter, but not only does void termina not have a confirmed relationship with dark matter, void termina also does not have a confirmed relationship with kirby according to shinya kumazaki, which is its own separate discussion) -waddle doo (dark matter possessed a waddle dee one (1) time and turned it into a waddle doo, i don't think that's enough evidence however, also there's been no official confirmation as far as i'm aware but the wikirby page for waddle doo doesn't seem to mention anything one way or the other so it's possible that a statement from hal exists and i simply don't know where to find it)
note that these characters are not necessarily deconfirmed, but rather are simply unconfirmed. it's possible that these characters could have some sort of relationship with dark matter, but hal has never made that official, and the best we can do for any of them is speculate. even hyness, who is clarified to be talking about the substance dark matter, could still have a relationship with dark matter anyway if void termina is confirmed to be related to dark matter
sources: -wikirby page for dark matter, specifically the section regarding its relatives (https://wikirby.com/wiki/Dark_Matter#Relatives_of_Dark_Matter) -wikirby page for a list of misconceptions within the kirby community, specifically the sections regarding dark matter and void termina (https://wikirby.com/wiki/List_of_misconceptions) -english manual for kirby's dream land 3, specifically page 9 (https://archive.org/details/kirby-s-dream-land-3-1997-nintendo/page/n5/mode/2up) -the fandom kirby wiki; don't use it, it's worse than wikirby, but for the sake of academic integrity (if you can call this academic, anyway), here's the one page i sourced: https://kirby.fandom.com/wiki/Zero -the wikirby pages for all characters listed in the "confirmed" section except for zero for some reason -english manual for kirby 64 (https://m1.nintendo.net/docvc/NUS/USA/NK4E/NK4E_E.pdf) -english website for kirby's dream land 3, whatever that means, indirectly via wikirby -20th anniversary kirby pupupu encyclopedia, indirectly via wikirby (i cannot read japanese; if i could, i would read and source it directly) -the japanese, chinese, and korean versions of kirby star allies, indirectly via wikirby (i can't read chinese or korean either) -shinya kumazaki, indirectly via wikirby
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Name: Haley
Debut: Kirby and the Amazing Mirror
It was high time I talked about Kirby creatures again! There really are so many wonderful designs to talk about, one day I’ll become evil and turn this blog into weirdkirbyenemies, but today is not that day yet, so I have to restrict myself to Funky Fridays.
Comets! Those stunning celestial bodies made of ice and rock! Their long tails trailing behind from the sun’s heat. We all love them! They’ve been a source of inspiration and wonder for humanity since the birth of humanity itself! So of course there should be a creature design inspired by them!
This is Haley! Named after Comet Halley, of course. Have you ever said to yourself “Man I sure love comets but I wish they were a Mammal”, well, HAL Labs heard your prayers and gifted us Haley! A little hedgehog-like mammal that looks and behaves like a comet! They’re just a funny snout with white and blue spiky fur trailing behind, and they move slowly across the screen at a fixed height and speed, they do flap their fur to fly which comets don’t do, but it kinda looks like blazing fire!
I really think it’s such a smart and inspired design! It made me realize how odd it is that there aren’t many comet-inspired creatures out there, there are hundreds of creatures inspired by stars and moons and suns, but there’s so little out there for falling celestial objects, Minior and Haley are carrying hard the diversity of celestial creatures! I think Minior and Haley are friends.
Nyoom
I know what many of you might be thinking, “This is just Sonic the Hedgehog, you are lying to me!” While the resemblance is obvious, I really think it’s completely coincidental! A blue hedgehog is just perfect to depict a comet! Both Sonic and Haley are designed to represent motion so if anything, maybe Sonic looks like a comet! So by extension Haley looks a bit like Sonic, that’s it, I’m sure Sonic and Haley would also be friends.
Haley made their debut in Kirby and the Amazing Mirror, where they can be found in Candy Constellation, this was their only physical appearance in the Kirby series as well, however… It was not their only spiritual appearance!
Just like the Spirits in Smash Bros Ultimate’s World of Light, Haley’s spirit found its way into the body of another creature, a Bronto Burt! You see, Kirby Star Allies introduced new levels every time a Dream Friend was added, these levels would be recreations of an iconic stage of the game that Dream Friend came from, so for Dark Meta Knight, Candy Constellation was chosen! This meant that a section of Candy Constellation had to be recreated using the Star Allies engine, and by extension, Star Allies enemies! So when it came time for the Haleys in the level, they used Bronto Burts, but programmed them to move and behave exactly like Haley!
Here you can see the same area in both games, side by side, Star Allies did have Noddy and Waddle Doo, so those didn’t require a host for a spirit.
Haley also made an appearance in the 2020 New Years celebration picture on Kirby’s Japanese Twitter! It was the year of the rat so hedgehogs were also included, even though they’re not actually related at all, they definitely are rodent-passing, so I’ll allow it. This art is great because it confirms Haleys can actually stop moving, good for them, they deserve a little rest sometimes.
And this is all for Haley! It’s clear they still are on the developers’ mind so I’m holding hope they’ll make a proper return in a Kirby game soon, I love this fluffy little comet and I hope you do as well now, thank you for reading!
Yeowch!
#haley#haley kirby#kirby#kirby and the amazing mirror#not mario#funky friday#mod sockop#May Haley's fleeting presence bless your day reader!
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What if Kirby had a traditional fighting game?
Listen, I know I should’ve done more “FNF fighting game characters” but i doubt anyone cared for that, and even then I lost a bit of interest, so if you actually cared sorry about that, you can still come up with whatever you want for the characters I didn’t talk about!
That being said, I think all Kirby fans here know Kirby Fighters 2. Personally speaking most of it was just the same as Kirby Fighters Deluxe BUT there were five playable Dream Friends. FIVE. Priority to the Copy Abilities a bit too high, isn’t it HAL? Sometimes it feels a bit barebones if you ask me. So I’m here to discuss what would a non-platform Kirby fighting game be.
THE GAMEPLAY
It’s the same as any basic fighting game, there isn’t really that much that the Kirby franchise can offer to make the genre a bit more varied, and that’s mostly due to the fact that Kirby makes friends wherever he goes and combat is pretty much straightforward in these platforming games, the crazy stuff comes from learning specific moves with each copy ability/character in the games and that’s also true for this game.
THE PLOT
I have quite a few ideas for how this can go:
-It’s a “what if” re-telling of Kirby Star Allies where Hyness’ ritual (somehow) also causes space-time rifts across the entire universe to be generated, pulling in Kirby villains from previous games but also allies, which would ALSO explain Dream Friends in the game’s canon a bit more properly.
-It happens in an AU. Plot would basically be Kirby Battle Royale’s but instead of shooting a loadshit of Kirbies onto Kirby, Dedede would just call upon all of their friends to fight for that cake before things escalate and Dedede loses control of the tournament to greater evils, forcing him to work with Kirby to stop the threat, be it old or new.
-Another AU idea but this time it’s original/based on Milky Way Wishes. Galactic NOVA appears every thousand years above Pop Star’s skies, and everyone tries to fight for the right to get the wish. Villain wouldn’t necessarily be ONLY Marx though, most of the Kirby villains could easily win against him if they get to NOVA and get their wish granted. Which means yes, all plots happen at once and Kirby has to deal with everyone at once.
-The least interesting idea: it’s Kirby Fighters 2′s plot but without tag team duos and with all Kirbies replaced with the roster.
THE ROSTER
Now we’re about to have some fun.
RETURNING CHARACTERS: The Dream Friends (and Kirby, of course)
-First up, all Dream Friends are coming back. You don’t even need to change their movesets that much, just add/tweak things, but just for funsies (and for a specific reason too) we’ll also give them specific copy abilities or more than one to categorize them.
-Kirby is the specific reason. He has the same moveset as his Smash Bros incarnation, although he incorporates more copy abilities (and also super powerful stuff like the Star Rod that he usually uses in endgame fights) in it now due to being a traditional fighting game. And yes, he still has his inhale. Using it will have the inhale be replaced by another move in-game, the closest one to a “neutral special” in the opponent’s arsenal. His copy ability is therefore, Smash Bros. And since the game has multiple super moves, we can make his gimmicks from the Kumazaki games the super moves: his level 1 would be a random Super Copy Ability from Return to Dreamland (cutscene is random everytime but damage is always the same), his level 2 would be using the Robobot Armor to stomp foes around, ending with a giant ground pound/fist to the ground and his level 3 is Hypernova Kirby due to the inhale being one of his most unique properties.
-Meta Knight and Dedede will also have heavy Smash influences but they’ll also use techniques from most of their boss fights, such as Meta Knight splitting himself in four clones temporarily for an attack or Dedede actually pulling out an axe instead of his hammer for some attacks based on his Triple Deluxe incarnation. Their copy abilities would formally be Sword and Hammer but with heavy Smash Bros inspiration. Meta can also call in for the Meta Knights to help him in one of his unique super moves. They’d all be there except for Sailor Dee and Captain Vul (one’s an alternate costume and the other is never seen outside of dialogue text).
-Bandana Waddle Dee’s moveset incorporates both Spear and Parasol, but due to the Spear being his most used tool he’ll be categorized with that.
-Marx is the first character with Unique as its own copy ability due to his arsenal being entirely based on his boss fight. Inhaling Unique characters doesn’t always allow Kirby to get copy abilities but when it happens he usually has their most basic move replacing the inhale. Gooey is in the same situation, but i have no idea what would Kirby get from him as an ability since he’s technically player 2 in the Dark Matter trilogy’s first 2 games. Rick, Kine and Coo would technically be categorized as Unique only because they have Fire, Water and Wind in their moveset. You could say they’d be stance characters while Marx is a zoner and Gooey a rushdown character.
-Dark Meta Knight is categorized as Mirror, and Adeleine (with Ribbon as an assist of course) is Artist. Daroach would be Animal, which is missing since its debut in Squeak Squad, as far as I can remember, but he naturally still retains his moveset of calling the Squeaks to help him.
-It’s pretty easy to categorize Magolor as ESP, and Taranza as Spider, while I have no idea what would Susie’s ability be even. Spark? She is mostly around in the Robobot Armor to be fair. The Three Mage-Sisters would be treated equally to the Animal Friends
THE NEWCOMERS
-NAGO, CHUCHU & PITCH: The other set of Animal Friends. I theorize a moveset revolving around the Cleaning ability like in Star Allies would be easy to make, although it can also incorporate moves from other abilities that have been in Dream Land 3.
-CHEF KAWASAKI: I think it’s safe to say this one is pretty easy to do just like the returning Dream Friends. He has a unique moveset in comparison to Chef Kirby that also has him use Kirby’s Final Smash from Super Smash Bros. Brawl.
-LOLOLO & LALALA: Aside from pushing boxes and Gordos they can be the Ice Climbers of the game, and most importantly one of their super moves could have them fuse into their original form in the anime to reference that further.
-SHADOW KIRBY: A clone (in terms of moveset) for Kirby that lacks the inhale ability and has more attacks based on his appearances in Amazing Mirror (and also on Kirby’s unique ability to split in four in these games) and the Kirby Fighters spinoffs. Simple as it is.
-THE MIDBOSSES: They all play the same as their fights too, so doing a paragraph for each of them would be a bit redundant. I chose to add minibosses in because most of them are pretty iconic among Kirby enemies and some of them are also technically friends of Kirby’s. I picked Bonkers (whose coconut throwing and some special moves could make him different enough from Dedede if you ask me), Mr. Frosty (also because we don’t have an Ice-based character in the game), Buggzy (which I can see being the ultimate grappler), King Doo (because we don’t actually have a Waddle Doo in the roster and he’s technically not only their king but also the most unique of them) and Grand Wheelie (look, I like Wheel as an ability ok? it’s like playing as Sonic in a Kirby game)
-KNUCKLE JOE: Taking stuff from both his Star Allies moveset and his Assist Trophy from Ultimate PLUS a few references to the anime and you have the ultimate Shoto character in the Kirby franchise. Ryu mains, this is the character for you.
-GIM: Look, my three favorite abilities are Yo-Yo, Wheel and ESP, in no particular order, so I HAD to include him and the Grand Wheelie. Magolor covers for ESP enough. This lil fella looks more unique than most of the generic Kirby enemies and even among the copy ability ones he’s always been a bit of an oddball due to being a robot. The trickshots you can do with this copy ability make Gim perfect to camp, so he’d be a pretty good zoner as well.
-TAC: He’s been a Helper in Super Star where he also has an unique moveset. Expanding on it and on Tac being generally a copy ability thief could mean more copy abilities can be implemented in a moveset, probably even more than what Kirby can do. Also his design just screams potential to me.
DLC FIGHTERS
WAVE 1: Spinoff Dream Friends
Cuz these guys have been done dirty by Star Allies’ devs. Elline would be the other Artist character in the game and call for Claycia’s assistance in specific attacks. Prince Fluff would play mostly just like Kirby himself did in Kirby’s Epic Yarn and implement specific transformations in some attacks, ending with the tank one from the end of that game. Then we have Gryll. If you know how to make a Tetris/Puyo Puyo based character in a fighting game then good for you, I absolutely don’t know how. What I KNOW however is that she has a float like Peach’s in Smash Bros and I-No’s in Guilty Gear.
WAVE 2: Dream Villains
These guys would all play exactly like their boss fights. Hyness and Sectonia would remain mostly unchanged while Haltmann in terms of moveset is the same as Susie, just without every non-Robobot move that she has.
WAVE 3: Clash of Blades
THAT’S RIGHT, IT’S ALL ANIME SWORDFIGHTERS. They all pull from their boss fights, but Morpho Knight is gonna be a bit more unique compared to Galacta, Dark Meta and Meta Knight, having in the swordfighter equivalent of Akuma’s Raging Demon. Meanwhile, Dark Matter Swordsman and Galacta Knight are completely faithful to the source material, but they’d probably be a bit nerfed due to Galacta’s universe-breaking powers. (you can bet that if we get the remaining legendary heroes who sealed Void Termina in future games they’d be their own separate Wave 5 DLC pack)
WAVE 4: Revival of Old Faces
Nightmare and Drawcia are back and they’re here to stay! Their movesets don’t really need that much changes. Void however is an entirely different beast. He’d be a mix of Kirby, both Zero incarnations and Dark Matter. His design wouldn’t just be giant orb that switches between Kirby and Dark Matter faces, he’d be Kirby-sized and with legs and stubby lil arms like the pink puffball. And you can bet your ass he’d be broken as fuck.
SKINS
If a character’s appearance changed across the series’ history (like Marx Soul, Girl Blob Gooey, Shoppe Magolor, Mecha Knight, Dark Taranza/Taranza in the Super Kirby Clash games, Masked/Shadow Dedede, Anime!Knuckle Joe, Parallel/Pres. Parallel Susie, EX versions and so on) they’d just be an alternate skin/palette swap for the specific character. Multiple characters of the same species with little changes (like a normal Waddle Dee or Sailor Dee, or literally all Kirby colors including Keeby) are the same. I’m also debating on how Dark Mind would be a skin for Nightmare or if there’d be a skin inspired by him for the Dark Matter Swordsman. Zero and Zero Two would probably be turned into palette swaps/outfits for Void (imagine a white Kirby cosplaying as Zero Two that’d be so cute lol).
ATTACKING ASSIST CHARACTERS
Characters who appear in other characters’ attacks. Like the aforementioned Squeaks, Meta Knights and Claycia. Normal Dark Matter would appear in DM Swordsman’s attacks in some capacity outside of the eye laser and the Gordo Throw would return from Dedede’s previous Smash incarnations alongside the Waddle Dee Throw from Brawl. And naturally Magolor can call in the Lor Starcutter for one of his super moves. I am actually considering giving Tac the ability to throw random items/enemies at opponents, with the Bomber being one of these. It’d be a very RNG attack with the Bomber being the best outcome, blowing on the opponent’s face.
HELPERS
All characters in the game can be called on for an Helper attack, that can help you in some form against the opponent by either damaging or tampering with the opponent or by having you get healed or with some buff. Outside from the playable roster enemies that give you copy abilities would also be Helpers, but the specific ones I’m not so sure on.
BOSSES
Characters you can fight in Arcade mode, in Story mode or in a specific Boss mode. There’d also be a Ganon’s Fury (Hyrule Warriors) inspired mode where you’d play as the bosses pitting them against each other. I specifically picked Dyna Blade, Whispy Woods, Landia, Star Dream, Kracko, Great Edge, Pyribbit, Ice Dragon, Fire Lion, Masher, Grand Mam, Metal General, Kibble Blade and Pon & Con.
STAGES
There’d be quite a lot of stages, but I haven’t thought out specific ones except for Green Greens, Butter Building, a Ripple Star stage, one for Dedede’s castle with stage cameos by Tiff, Tuff and Escargoon from the anime and every final boss’s fighting arena.
THE MUSIC
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is gonna be nothing compared to this one. We’re getting all the important music from all pre-Kumazaki games, all music from Kumazaki games and spinoffs, and online arrangements with focus on orchestral (Desolo Zantas), metal (GaMetal, of course) and EDM (Acid Notation, Qumu and various others), including stuff like Itoki Hana’s vocal arrangements. We’re going all out on this one.
Aaaaand that’s it. Thanks for coming to my TED talk. Stay hydrated.
#kirby#fighting game#meta knight#king dedede#game idea#bandana waddle dee#Kirby Star Allies#dream friends#kirby battle royale#queen sectonia#max profitt haltmann#void termina#nightmare kirby#drawcia#WHEN IS THE NEXT KIRBY COMING OUT FOR FUCK'S SAKE
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Waddle Doo!
I’ve been aware of Waddle Doo’s existence for a large portion of my life, but I think it was only recently that I really started liking them a lot. There’s something very very charming about this guy. Waddle Dee and Waddle Doo are definitely kinda weird when you put them next to each other, especially because they’re intentionally related. Waddle Dee isn’t too weird, and honestly Waddle Doo isn’t too weird on it’s own either, but it’s the fact that they coexist that makes Waddle Doo much stranger. A Waddle Dee with a giant eyeball where it’s face would normally be, who can even shoot beams from said eye! Weird!! But definitely a good weird. Waddle Doo would go on to be the main provider of the Beam ability in Kirby’s Adventure onwards, and would also be the Beam Helper in Kirby Super Star and Kirby Star Allies. Funnily enough, the Helper Waddle Doo in Star Allies actually uses Beam Kirby’s wand to fire beams, instead of their eye. Seems a bit unnecessary, but I guess they give the Beetley Helper another horn on their head to use, so that’s just how Star Allies is.
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Gamebunny Patch Notes: Kirby
Decided to add character + game tags to my Kirby posts. I dunno why I decided that Kirby somehow wasn’t worthy of more sub-tags, but I’m fixing that now. As of now, I’ve only redone 55 out of 145 pages of Kirby posts, but I’ll try to do the rest as time goes on.
Expanded Notes:
Kirby’s character tag is “poyo”. I figured that most Kirby posts would actually have kirby in them, so I added “poyo” to every single post tagged “kirby” (including posts past page 55). It’s going to take me some time to clean that up, so for the time being, consider that tag broken.
Most major characters are tagged. Specifically all final bosses and major allies are tagged. Ex) Nightmare is tagged because he’s the final boss of Adventure despite only showing up in that game (and it’s remake), but Paint Roller is tagged “kirby’s adventure” because he doesn’t appear in a major role in any other game.
Recurring bosses (like Whispy Woods) are also tagged.
Minor enemies are not tagged (even if they’re recurring) with the exception of “waddle dee” and “waddle doo”
All Animal Buddies are tagged “animal buddies”
All forms of Dark Matter (except Gooey) are tagged “dark matter”. (This includes zero and zero2)
All forms of Void Termina are tagged “void”
All kirby anime characters are tagged “kirby right back at ya”
Kirby’s Nightmare in Dreamland is tagged “kirby’s adventure”
Kirby Super Star is tagged “super star ultra”
I’m wishy-washy about whether or not I add the “kirby” title to the game tags. Generally speaking, if the title would be one word and/or less than three syllables, “kirby/kirby’s” is added to the beginning while titles with at least 2 words and/or 3 syllables don’t. Ex) I use the tags“kirby air ride” and “kirby’s dreamland”, but I also use “planet robobot” and “super star ultra”
Otherwise the tags follow Mario tag rules: game tags are only applied to posts that show the actual game unless the characters/elements are only present in that game and/or don’t have a different specific tag, or if the post makes explicit reference to the game.
Games/Characters with 10+ posts have been added to the tag list page.
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