#I love the Prospero and Eulalie ones especially-

[lina-studen]

theory time: what unites all the students at nevermore academy?

tw: death, violence, blood, all the bad & sad stuff.

considering that nevermore academy is a kind of purgatory, there has to be a reason why it holds such a small number of people. in this realm must be plenty of places where different people, united by one characteristic, end up after death. this was also confirmed by the authors.

for a long time now I've been following the theory that all the characters of "nevermore" are united by the way they died. namely, they all were murdered.

almost from the very beginning of the story we were aware that annabel lee was murdered. the same thing was stated in the latest chapters too.

ada was clearly also brutally murdered by the nobleman she loved. the poor girl's body was probably never found. I'm afraid no one really looked for it though.

recently we also learned that duke didn’t just drown. his magical performance was sabotaged by a person unknown to us.

the cause of pluto's death was not specified in detail, but I'm inclined to believe that he was strangled by his tyrant father (and my baby felt a huge relief, I'm crying).

berenice was hit by a car, but I'm pretty convinced that it counts (?), because she was running away from a bad person. especially if we take into account the story of the poe's character with the same name.

oh, and I almost forgot about montresor, although there have been a lot (too much) of him lately. well, he was thrown under a train. not much to add.

the only people who stand out from the general pattern so far are prospero and eulalie. eulalie died in a fire. the exact cause of prospero's death is unknown to us, but with a high probability it was caused by some kind of disease, presumably the plague. however, I wouldn't rush to write these two off. the fire could have been the result of arson. not necessarily for the sake of killing poor eulalie. but in any case it's a deliberately arranged action. remember, in the eyes of the public, duke's death also seemed like an accident.

and the final chord of prospero’s life could have been, for example, not the disease itself, but a medical “mistake” during the surgery or something like that.

phew, feels really nice to finally have a platform to share some thoughts! and what do y'all think? it'd be interesting to read your theories.

[nevermorgue]

fun concept: when Annabel eventually starts seeing her group as real friends instead of "fodder" (well she's already started doing that with Prospero i think) she starts subtly trying to get one or two of them to spend time with Lenore...

yes their groups are still technically "enemies" but she just really wants her friends to see how cool her wife is

love this. imagine berenice and ada chatting. or prospero and MORELLA. like weird duos we never see interact. I need Eulalie and Annabel too after her like touching one of her curls I just know they'd be funny together. There are so many duo potentials here that'd I would LOVE to get into especially morella and will bc...things....

[majosullivan]

MAJOOOOOOOOO I love your Pluto theory but also. Also. Do you think that the roommates are there to enact each other's stories? Like Montresor was put in Duke's room on purpose so that he could put him in the wall, Prospero in Pluto's so that he could take his eye?? Or maybe Pluto does smt that makes Prospero sick???

Just spitballin here but 🤔🤔🤔

It’s very possible! While I don’t think it’s possible with certain roommates, I can definitely see certain references being pulled from their respective stories to inform future interactions between them. I’m so interested in the dynamics of all the roommates since it’s clear that the roommates were carefully picked and organised by the Deans for specific reasons, rather than being randomised, especially with how the characters parallel eachother and the similarities between their deaths.

The most obvious example we have is with Annabel and Ada, with both their characters and deaths being centred around the ideas of love. While Annabel was killed and betrayed before she was wed by ‘the one who loved her above all else’, Ada was killed by the upper class man she was likely having an affair with. While Ada desperately wants to matter the most to someone, clearly willing to do anything to be seen as such, Annabel is completely loyal to Lenore, Lenore being the only person she’s felt truly comfortable being her authentic self around, someone she’s willing to risk it all for, loving her with every fibre of her being. Annabel is everything that Ada admires and wants to be, wanting desperately for Annabel’s approval as a mark of being a ‘real lady’, blinding her to how Annabel is able to take complete advantage of her as a pawn.

Then there’s Berenice and Eulalie, who also have clear parallels in their deaths, with both of them slowly dying with no form of escape. With Berenice, she was run over by a police car while trying to escape some guy harassing her, slowly dying trapped under the car while the guy harassing her makes her as some drunk that run in front of the road. With Eulalie, she was trapped in a burning building with a bunch of children, with it being suggested that people set the fire, with Eulalie not being able to do anything but try to comfort the children in their last moments together (my main guess at the moment is that Eulalie was the victim of racial violence during WWII). When it comes to their personalities, while both of shown to be unweavingly loyal to their friends, Berenice has much more street smarts and is shown to be used to taking care of herself, while social cues aren’t Eulalie’s strong suit and her seemingly being a caretaker of some form in life.

With Duke and Monstresor, we’ve now seen our recreation of The Cask of Amontillado, with Duke in the role of Fortunato, his stage name in life. When it comes to their deaths, though we don’t have confirmation on how exactly Duke died, I think Monty’s death could actually support the most popular theory on how Duke died. Thanks to episode 54, we know that Monty died by being taken to the train tracks and getting run over by the incoming train, trying his best to escape. Considering this, the parallels we’ve seen in previous roommates’s deaths, Duke drowning and it bring comfirmed that he was an escape artist in life, it strengthens the idea that Duke died in a water escape trick gone wrong.

The situation is similar with Lenore and Morella. While we don’t know how Lenore died, considering Lenore herself, the possible ideas we already have about how Annabel and Lenore died, along with the knowledge that Morella died wanting to protect someone no matter what, it definitely strengthens the idea that Lenore died trying to protect Annabel. When it comes to their personalities, while both of them hold their personal connections in very high regard, Lenore has no bounds to the rules and refuses to make any sacrifices when it comes to her connections, while Morella is very keen to follow the rules to avoid trouble, having difficulty standing her ground at times and her desire for friendship unfortunately resulting in her getting stuck with the Clusterfuck, with Monty threatening to harm her Ada and Lenore if he ever sees Morella or Ada talking to her.

Finally there’s Pluto and Prospero, both being more logically grounded members in their groups. We can’t really compare how they died yet, since we only have how they felt when they died and their likely causes of death, with no confirmation on the lead up to their deaths. Despite this, that doesn’t prevent us from comparing the parallels between the two. While Prospero is quite reversed, placing little value in emotional connections and greatly disliking physical contact, Pluto is very emotionally intuned, deeply caring for and valuing his connections, along with being very physically affectionate. They’re both also two of the first characters to get involved in romantic sub plots of sorts, with Ada having a crush on Prospero (we all know how that went) and Pluto having a crush on Eulalie. Not to mention the obvious parallel of Prospero’s spectre involving rats and Pluto’s spectre being a literal cat. An interesting detail that I picked up recently was how we see that Prospero fears people thinking of him as neurotic in episode 71, while Pluto was the reason Lenore and Duke were able to escape the dementophobia trial. This detail could get even more interesting, considering that in The Tell Tale Heart, part of the narrative involves the narrator trying to convince the reader of their sanity. Tying this in with Pluto’s possible link to the story that I’ve mentioned before and we could come up with quite an interesting picture. It might be nothing but it caught my eye.

Overall, the Duke situation once again has prompted me to look into the roommates’s dynamics and what possible references could be pulled from them. I’m currently trying to read more of Poe’s work, both out of curiosity and wanting to see if there are any similarities in stories that could relate to the dynamics of characters and roommates that Red and Flynn could be used drawn reference to during the story. If I come across anything particularly interesting, I’ll try to make a post about it

[m1xieup]

spoliers for Nevermore episode 80!!!!!! (Read at your own risk)

Ok so first of all…. So much happened. I for one am filled with immeasurable joy due to this episode (though I am still awaiting Duke to come back from the wall). We got some character development, Lenore standing up for herself/her friends and refusing to be a pawn in this game, we got some actual Will content outside of Montresor, and possibly some new characters! All of this is incredibly exciting to me! Now I must warn you that I am a Will enjoyer and this post is mainly about my thoughts/theories about him, though I will say the development for everyone was great and I’m so excited to see how they evolve. I will tell you that even though I predicted they may go to Will, I still didn’t think it would happen-he is a side character after all, no matter how much I enjoy him. It was so nice to see him just being his silly self outside of Montrashsor. He seems like a sweet kid caught up in the wrong crowd. However my main reason for posting this is to discuss where he may go in the future.

this conflict is going to change the dynamic of both groups immensely. Lenore’s group may be more cautious and reserved, but I think Annabel’s may fracture. Prospero is loyal to her, but Ada her other devotee is now dating Monty, and may be more loyal to him. Morella won’t want to stay with Annabels group when she learns what they did to Duke, so she’ll probably leave. Monty may start shit with Annabel and may make a power play especially if he passes this off as her plan, and claims he could do better (this is assuming Duke is rescued which I sincerely hope he is). Ada would most likely support him, so Annabel needs to be really careful with how she does things going forward.

Ok so what about Will? He doesn’t really have a choice as far as he’s concerned Lenore could and would murder him so he has to help her. This puts him in a difficult place, as he technically would have betrayed his team by helping to free Duke. So I have a couple ideas about how his arc (which I think he’ll get one! Which makes me very happy ) could go

He stays with Annabel’s group and possibly faces punishment or harm for betraying them (you can’t tell me Monty would not be incredibly pissed at him, and he is not above hurting people that care for him)

he joins Lenore’s group (this is a little unlikely as Idk if they would accept him in after what he did to Duke even if Eulalie and Berenice seem to have some sympathy for him, however it would be very fun and in my opinion Will deserves better friends so it would make me happy)

he goes on his own (idk if he could make it on his own but it’s a possibility)

he dies/gets killed/is eliminated (this sort of goes with the previous but I also wouldn’t put Monty above murdering him if he felt Will betrayed him) [this would make me sad and I hope it doesn’t happen, near death is fine though I can handle angst]

He could join up with another group all together (this is somewhat based on my theory that the 3 guys we saw in the background are going to be somewhat important going forward) basically my theory is that he could join up with three guys we see as a 3rd party or in conjunction with one of the others. ((I also just think it’d be both hilarious and in character for Will to find someone else to latch onto and lackey for))

all in all a fantastic update! I’m so excited to learn more about/get a Will character arc, and I’m excited to see how he grows (change for the better, I believe in you!) I’m sooooo interested to see how these new faces interact with the others and to learn more about them as well. I am eating up Lenore’s arc, and I am so excited to see how this shift in dynamic with Annabel changes things! These are my general thoughts and opinions/theories! I’d love to hear yours fellow fast-passers (or those that read this when it come out fully)! Thank you for sticking with my insane ramblings (I’m so normal about Nevermore I swear) and have a wonderful day/night!

[wanderlust-songbird]

4. Does Kanaria's name mean something? Either in another language or something else? || 6. What is her family like? How many siblings? Are both parents still around? || 7. Favorite moment that happened to her in a roleplay? || 9. How did you create her? 😊

4. Does their name mean something? Either in another language or something else?

Their full name is as follows: Kanaria - Japanese for Canary, which is a songbird. Omorose - Egyptian name for Beautiful Charmaine - A name meaning Bountiful Orchard in English & Singer in Latin Lunaixia - Actually the only part I made up myself by combining two names Luna & Ixia. Luna is pretty obvious here so I won’t go into detail on that. Ixia is from the genus of the same name, which are cormous plants also known as corn lilies. Some distinctive traits include: sword-like leaves, and long wiry stems with star-shaped flowers. This especially matters since both those flowers (blue & white specifically) & the small yellow star like flowers (Elderflowers) are decorated in her hair with the Amaranthine Datura (Moonflower) in the center where her heart is in the IS! Verse.

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6. What is her family like? How many siblings? Are both parents still around?

Her family is quite loving & supportive overall, not just to her but to anyone who are in their good graces. Since they were an upper class family, they usually attended charity events as well as balls & other various events. She has one older brother by the name of Rossingnol Beauregard Sacheverell Lunaixia, who is already married. Her Parents are Ariadine Eulalie Samiyah Lunaixia & Saphiros Prospero Erasmus Lunaixia. Depending on the verse, her family may or may not be around.

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7. Favorite moment that happened to her in a roleplay? I can’t pick a favorite honestly. I could list a bunch from Discord alone! I would rather not make this longer than it needs to.

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9. How did you create her? I decided to try making a female character as I had only been making male ones (which were little anyway as this was early 2011). She had a way more different design aesthetic wise, which I unfortunately lost again. She was more tomboyish & even mean. She even had a completely different name! As the years went by, I went & developed her to be more feminine, daintly, & pure-hearted. Her middle name Charmaine was the last name she had before I finalized it to Kanaria.

[majosullivan]

When to comes to the ‘everyone at Nevermore was murdered’ theory, there is a lot I like about it and quite a bit going for it. It provides solid reasoning to why all the Nevermore students would appear in Nevermore and why, for whatever their true intentions are, the Deans would be able to draw students into the academy with the promise of a second chance at life. Groups of of young adults taken in their prime, before they could truly blossom into adulthood. Their lives cruelly ripped away from them by spiteful individuals who murdered them. Of course they would especially jump at a second chance at life and would be given that opportunity.

Despite this, I just can’t bring myself to fully jump on the theory, because in my eyes, there is one big hole in this theory that I can’t draw my eyes away from. Someone that rebuts the idea that every Nevermore student was murdered not even 10 episodes into the series.

Theo.

In episode 32, we got confirmation about an idea that has been floating around since episode 8 was released: that Theo was a student at Nevermore Academy. An excellent one too. Top of his class, sharing the same magnetism as his sister. As a result, this would make his death the first instance we saw the death of a Nevermore student before they arrived at the academy, and it is Theo’s death that throws a massive wrench in this theory. Theo died because of a tree collapsing on him in the middle of a storm. A tragic loss, a horrible accident to be sure, but murder? It quite simply isn’t. The tree falling wasn’t due to the deliberate effort of a third party having it out for Theo, it was just an unfortunate result of the storm, almost certainly due to the strike of lightning near the area.

If we were going to try and fit Theo’s death into the murder theory, you could make an argument around Lenore’s reaction to Theo’s death. In episode 8, once Lenore realised Theo is dead, we see Lenore’s interdialogue saying how she killed her own brother, harboring a massive amount of guilt around Theo’s death since he went out into the storm to find her after she ran off after finding out her father found her a suitor. It could be argued that Lenore’s feelings in this moment might have allowed Theo to meet the murder requirement, however, this reading is undoubtedly a big stretch and solely relies on Lenore’s feelings of guilt and sense of responsibility for Theo’s death being enough for him to meet the requirement to appear in Nevermore. The stretch is only made even more apparent when compared to Nevermore students who were actually murdered, like Annabel and Ada. It feels as if we’re trying to fit a circular shape into a triangular space, it just doesn’t fit.

Like I said before, there is a lot to like about this theory, and despite Theo’s death standing as a strong contradiction to the murder theory, that doesn’t take away from the fact that every other death that we have confirmation for was caused by a third party:

-Annabel was murdered by ‘the one who loved her above all else’

-Ada was murdered by an upper classman who she was in love with and possibly had a relationship with (big theory I’ve seen is that this guy got Ada pregnant since he swung the axe at her stomach)

-Duke drowned because his escape trick was sabotaged by his assistant

-Monstresor was dragged to the train tracks by a group of men so the incoming train would run him over

-Berenice got hit and trapped under a police car because she was trying to escape from a guy that was harassing her

-and Eulalie died in a burning building, with it being suggested by a boy in her flashback that the fire was set on purpose by people outside (theory I’m on is that Eulalie was the victim of a hatecrime during WWII)

At the moment, the remain students who we don’t have confirmations on how exactly they died are Pluto, Morella, Prospero and Will. Out of the four, we have the strongest idea on how Pluto could have died due to how he manifested and his first flashback, giving us an idea on how strongly the Black Cat is influencing his backstory. The way Pluto first manifested highly suggests that, like the Black Cat in the short story he’s inspired from, Pluto was hung. This has lead to the continuing discussion on whether Pluto committed suicide or whether he was killed by his father, with the narrator in the Black Cat having hung the first cat soon after he cut out it’s eye while intoxicated. Overall though, both option would end with a similar conclusion, with Pluto’s death being caused by a third party: either being pushed to suicide by his father or his father killing him.

With Morella, she died with the feeling of wanting to save someone, not caring if anything bad happened to her. Once again, these feelings can link to the idea that Morella’s death was caused by a third party, with someone having put someone Morella cared about in harm’s way.

With Prospero, he said he felt queasy, like something was crawling under his skin, making it very likely he died from an illness. While this cause of death can also put a damper on the murder theory, it could still be open to being caused by a third party. The more recent free episodes have been giving us more evidence that Prospero worked in the medical field, so it’s possible he became ill due to his work. Another possible root is, taking into account his greatest fear hallucination in episode 70, Prospero could have been victim to poor medical treatment and practices that lead to his death. At the moment, it’s hard to say with Prospero, but the possibility of his death being caused by a third party is there.

Finally with Will…we basically have nothing to go on with Will, and the short story he’s from being rather odd and not as easy to draw a reasonable cause of death from compared to Pluto for example.

With all this considered, I think a key factor holding back this theory is the specific wording that all the students were murdered. Murder leaves a limited definition to work with, which while would fit how only certain people appear in Nevermore, would need us to stretch the details we already have around students’ deaths. If we were to change the wording to something along the lines of ‘all the Nevermore students died because of the actions of a third party’, that gives us a lot more room to breath with, allowing the deaths we do have confirmation for to slide into this idea very easily and still giving us a reason while only certain people would arrive at Nevermore.

However, while I have suggested this alternative, I still don’t think it really suits Theo’s death. While you could say that Lenore’s actions lead Theo to go out into the storm, leading to his death, it still feels too far removed from how Theo actually died, especially when compared to the others. It’s again a very harsh and unfair reading of the events that happened. Until we get confirmation on our last four students’ deaths, it’s hard to say just how much of an outlier Theo’s death is. There’s a lot to the relam of Nevermore that we don’t fully understand. Though the Ravens stated that the Deans are relatively new to Nevermore, they have a lot of control over the students arriving at Nevermore: knowing about their history, having pictures of them in life, students already being in uniform, etc. I am very curious to see them talk about the requirements to be a student at Nevermore Academy.

theory time: what unites all the students at nevermore academy?

tw: death, violence, blood, all the bad & sad stuff.

considering that nevermore academy is a kind of purgatory, there has to be a reason why it holds such a small number of people. in this realm must be plenty of places where different people, united by one characteristic, end up after death. this was also confirmed by the authors.

for a long time now I've been following the theory that all the characters of "nevermore" are united by the way they died. namely, they all were murdered.

almost from the very beginning of the story we were aware that annabel lee was murdered. the same thing was stated in the latest chapters too.

ada was clearly also brutally murdered by the nobleman she loved. the poor girl's body was probably never found. I'm afraid no one really looked for it though.

recently we also learned that duke didn’t just drown. his magical performance was sabotaged by a person unknown to us.

the cause of pluto's death was not specified in detail, but I'm inclined to believe that he was strangled by his tyrant father (and my baby felt a huge relief, I'm crying).

berenice was hit by a car, but I'm pretty convinced that it counts (?), because she was running away from a bad person. especially if we take into account the story of the poe's character with the same name.

oh, and I almost forgot about montresor, although there have been a lot (too much) of him lately. well, he was thrown under a train. not much to add.

the only people who stand out from the general pattern so far are prospero and eulalie. eulalie died in a fire. the exact cause of prospero's death is unknown to us, but with a high probability it was caused by some kind of disease, presumably the plague. however, I wouldn't rush to write these two off. the fire could have been the result of arson. not necessarily for the sake of killing poor eulalie. but in any case it's a deliberately arranged action. remember, in the eyes of the public, duke's death also seemed like an accident.

and the final chord of prospero’s life could have been, for example, not the disease itself, but a medical “mistake” during the surgery or something like that.

phew, feels really nice to finally have a platform to share some thoughts! and what do y'all think? it'd be interesting to read your theories.