#I liked the concept of something very dark happening where it by rights shouldve been very safe and welcoming therefore: flock

[miss-mossball]

Daylight Prairie kids

[freakingweirdo]

I haven't watched rotg in years (literally because I didn't like it) but big agree on all of your points. in CONCEPT it's a really neat idea, the animation style holds up, the character designs are really good and are still recognizable, there are a lot of really dark and. dare I say scary? moments, for a lighthearted dreamworks kid's film. don't they fucking kill the sandman? there's death in this movie! the oogie boogie man is a decent villain

but it's so. weighed down. by everything else. the story IS too rushed and feels underdeveloped, the easter plot is so inconsequential that I literally forgot it was even the plot until you posted about it. there's too much going on and the few serious/slow moments are forgotten because they're overwhelmed by ... everything else. literally who gives a shit about plastic easter eggs. that felt like such an american-centric thing to me but idk... don't quote me on that. also I fucking hatejelsa so much. #my opinion

WHO CARES ABOUT EASTER EGGS MAAAN. also all the other guardians are presented as extremely incompetent? the eggs get destroyed bc jack isnt there protecting them or whatever but all the other dudes were and just did nothing. the tooth fairy the easter bunny and santa claus combined forces cant manage to salvage a single egg on easter. all right losers… this is not even shown onscreen we are just told this. bc the easter plot does not matter at all.

the guardians strength is tied towards belief and if kids dont believe them they all curl up and die. but they still had a ton of believers before easter was ruined and they still couldnt do a thing. (which is stupid bc no one at all believes in jack and hes super duper defeat the main villain powerful..) and then that plots over and it doesnt matter bc no one gives a shit about egg collecting?

sandman DOES die but it’s temporary. wouldve been cooler to me if he died forever. he gets a funeral scene too which lasts a total of one minute where everyone holds hands sadly. pitch would be a much more effective villain if he killed sandy for real and there was actual time spent mourning him

i think the most effective plot is. the clear parallels with pitch and jack which are completely underdeveloped. they could have been very good foils as pitch began to feel hatred for people because they wouldnt believe in him and jack loved people no matter what. they had a really really interesting connection which should have gotten MUCH more focus.

jack has the best character moments with north and pitch. i think tooth and bunny are both delightful characters but the plot shouldve been restructured and they honestly both shouldve been cut or had significantly reduced roles so that the plot would have focus. absolutely no point to setting the movie on easter.

pitch breaking jacks staff is a great moment. i also like that he did give jack his teeth back even though hes being a meanie. he is genuinely attempting to team up with him bc they have such similar backgrounds. thats very rich and interesting i would have loved to see that developed. i also like tooths line that “they were all something before they became guardians” implying that they were humans given weird roles? what happened! pitch being given a human backstory to explain his beef with the man in the moon (like jack has! did the moon turn pitch into this creature of fear and never explain why? why does pitch hate him?) would add so much to the story

of the four guardians we see norths workshop, bunnys warren, and tooths palace. this is cool as fuck. the design is crazy good i have no notes on the art. but none of these locations are given significant time. the movie feels sort of like a theme park ride. look at this cool thing! okay youve seen it for two seconds! look at this other thing! and this thing! and that thing! the locations are incredible, but we never learn anything about them!

im a jelsa hater too. two white bitches with ice powers i just dont care honestly.

grrr rise of the guardians you couldve been so good . but you were mid instead.