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for the ask game:

5, 12, 34, 42? of course skip any that you don't care to answer!

5) what color are your eyes?

brown! very brown. as a kid it was hard to tell where my pupils began actually

12) what kind of day is it?

its very early (8am) so we have yet to see! currently figuring out if im sick (again) or if it’s just an off day and some allergies

34) is there a song you know every word to by heart?

plenty! i have an eight-ish hour playlist of my absolute favorite songs, plus a supplementary one for just tøp that’s about three and a half. but for simplicity, ill go with my two favorite songs of all time: holding on to you by tøp (of course) and pleaser by wallows

42) an app you frequently use besides this godforsaken site?

twitter and instagram are my big ones lmao! instagram because that’s how i talk to most of my friends, twitter because that’s where the other people in my phone live

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the sun has risen and i will try again

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here’s weirder asks

who is/are your comfort character(s)?

lighter or matches?

do you leave the window open at night?

which cryptyd being do you believe in?

what color are your eyes?

why did you do that?

hair-ties or scrunchies?

how many water bottles are in your room right now?

which do you prefer, hot coffee or cold coffee?

would you slaughter the rich?

favorite extracurricular activity?

what kind of day is it?

when was the last time you ate?

do you love the smell of earth after it rains?

are you a parent? (all answers qualify)

can you drive?

are you farsighted or nearsighted?

what hair products do you use?

imagine we’re at a sleepover, would you paint my nails?

do you say soda or pop?

something you’ve kept since childhood?

what type of person are you?

how do you feel about chilly weather?

if we were together on a rooftop, what would we be doing?

perfume/body spray or lotion?

a scenario that you’ve replayed multiple times?

about how many hours of sleep did you get?

do you wear a mask?

how do you like your shower water?

is there dishes in your room?

what type of music keeps you grounded?

do you have a favorite towel?

the last adventure you’ve been on?

is there a song you know every word to by heart?

what’s your timezone?

how many times have you changed your url?

someone in your life, other than a relative, you’ve known for 10+ years?

a soap bar that smells good?

do you use lip balm?

did you have any snacks today?

how do you take your coffee?

an app you frequently use besides this godforsaken site?

what’s your take on spicy foods?

you get a free pass to kill anyone, who is it?

can you remember what happened yesterday?

favorite holiday film?

what was the last message you sent?

when did you first try an alcohol beverage?

can you skip rocks?

can i tag you in random stuff?

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small thing but i love the duality of protocol episodes since jonny isn't the only one writing them. like the contrast between episode 39 and episode 38 is so funny because it's like

39 (written by alex): a soul-shattering exploration of the grief of a woman who can't let go of the memory of her dead husband, reliving a horrid nightmare about a domain of helplessness mixed with dysphoria just to see him again

38 (written by jonny): heehee pig carousel sings creepy nursery rhyme in german :)

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friendly reminder that being your mutual DOES make me your friend!! i love you!!!

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tyler without that annoying undershirt

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i have the sai boxset as well so im no help there (but ive also not heard anything about it the way i have for the others), BUT i have clancy!

transcriptions if you need:

tyler: thank you to my wife, jenna, and my two daughters, rosie and junie, and to my son, who is, at the moment, unborn and shall go unnamed (it’s voldemort). to my mother-in-law, debbie black, who is currently helping with the bedtime routine as i write this. to chris woltman and josh dun, my life would look very different without you two in it. to my mom and dad, you guys are cooler now that we’re friends. to my creative cohorts: paul meany, mark eshleman, brandon rike, adam hawkins, tyler shapard and pete ganbarg. to laura, luckie, jj, brad, nathan, and ashley.

and a giant shoutout to god, thank you for keeping me alive.

and to our fans. you guys! stop! here we, here we, here we…

josh: i’m josh, the drummer, and i would like to thank my wife, debby, for always supporting me playing the drums, even if it’s in the middle of the night. my dog, jim, gets a shout for attending every drum session we had in the studio and being a good boy. thanks to my mom and dad, and my late grandparents who got me into music and stoked the fire from an early age. thanks, tyler joseph, for a partnership in a great journey, collaboration, and career (business partners for life). to gavin haverstick, tj bechill, and charlie griffey, for helping design and bring a drum studio to life with great sounds and personality.

…and to the whole team that tyler mentioned, we’ve got a great group of people that make us feel confident putting our songs into the world. — thank you

Hey twenty one pilots friends I have a question

I was rereading the internal lyric booklets from my CD copies of Vessel, Blurryface, and Trench, thoroughly enjoying the silly little thank you sections, but I dont yet have Clany and want to compare notes- I recently started listening again after a long hiatus, so I'm a bit behind on album collection and only have Scaled and Icy through the collectors box (a very generous gift), and that version of the disk doesn't have a thank you section. Would anyone be willing to share what's on the thank you pages for Scaled and Icy and Clancy, respectively? I'm also curious to see if they credit their parents like they did in the first three albums, because I didn't see them listed in the SAI booklet I have and that seems out of character 🤔

Thanks!!!

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as a longtime fan of both mcr and tøp, and someone who’s decently active in the tøp fandom on multiple platforms: go for it! your interest in mcr potentially dipping temporarily doesnt negate your enjoyment at all, thats just how it goes sometimes. for me it was tøp first, then mcr and then i ended up back here, more fixated than ever and still a regular mcr listener

and if you’re worried about the fanbase (im the first to agree this one can be a lot) id stick to a platform you’re comfortable on like tumblr, especially at first. i can tell you from personal experience it’s a much more welcoming environment over here, especially for new(er) fans, be it casual or hardcore. there will always be intense fans, and there will always be weird ones everywhere, but if you know how to sort through that kind of thing you’ll be just fine. like i said, im the first to be critical, but i don’t have any regrets engaging with this community and ive met some really great people through it that i wouldnt trade for anything. it may be a different fandom experience, but it probably wont be worse than any other.

and you could always just listen to their music! you dont need to crack into the story behind the last several albums, and you certainly dont need to engage with the fandom, or if you do you can just stick to the outer edges of it. curate the best experience for YOU and your comfort level (even if that changes over time), but dont let a potentially scary fandom scare you away from something you think you’ll enjoy. clancy’s a great album to get you into the band, and you’ll definitely like their other stuff if you enjoy the themes and sound there.

the best and #1 thing to keep in mind is that there is no right or wrong way to be a fan of something, especially twenty one pilots. there can be an air of eliteness and competition sometimes, especially regarding their older music (specifically pre-vessel), but it isnt a contest. we’re all here to enjoy the music first and foremost, regardless of if you only listen to a couple albums or if you go search for their live covers of songs that were only recorded once on an ipod in 2011

sorry this was so longwinded haha! this has been on my mind lately even before seeing your post. and if you do decide to listen to more tøp and/or engage in the fanbase, id be more than down answer questions about pretty much anything!

should i get into twenty one pilots or is it not worth it because the fandom is weird (im assuming, dont know the first thing about that band or its fans) cuz i really like Clancy..... but im also scared i'll like them too much and neglect mcr LMAO

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Dying of appendicitis after surviving the apocalypse is kinda on brand for Sam isn't it?

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shitpost

wth

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That's could be us

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because i talk about it a lot im making a master post of my lore discussions! honestly for myself so i can have easy access more than anything bc i refer back to these a lot and i dont like scrolling and searching through my page

general lore

my thoughts on how the concerts point to the ending

“i am clancy” and the tyler = clancy debate

my thoughts on the original version of vialism

my thoughts on the connection between seizing, the neds, and vialism

song discussions

“formidable” and clancybearer

“against the kitchen floor” & clancy

clancybearer x “two birds”

clancybearer x “merry christmas, please don’t call”

tma talks

dema & the lonely

dema culture & smirke’s 14

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honestly ive never thought about this! but you bring up an interesting point for sure (at risk of sounding like a discussion post)

personally i have always viewed seizing and vialism as separate things that the bishops then twisted together. i also always assumed dema, or at least most of it, was built by the bishops (or was taken over by them very early). i cant imagine anyone else would build a city like that in trench of all places. and the earlier the bishops have control, the easier it would be for them to fake a history that isn’t there. i do really like your thought on the statues’ permanence vs neons’ though, that’s a super cool detail!!

i talked abt what i think vialism was in the rbs, but the short explanation is that i think it was a religion built around the themes in vessel and meant to celebrate life coming to an end (achieving glorious gone) after spending your life as a vessel for a greater message.

i think seizing is dissonant to this—by taking control of a dead body, you are directly violating the sacrality of death and finally being laid to rest. but if the bishops have twisted vialism into solely focusing on the death and encouraging self destruction, they could now impose seizing imagery onto vialism to cover up what they’re actually doing (since based on what clancy writes, he had no idea what seizing was, and presumably no citizens do before he tells them either).

and i think the fact that the neds and the bishops are entirely separate could support this, since we know they know about each other (besides the fact that bishops have at least one set of antlers), but the neds are not tied to dema/vialism in any way (even physically, they are on a separate island). clancy remains the connection between them, as he does for every other aspect of the story, since the neds represent his imagination and the bishops represent his fears AND ofc his status as the only living non bishop who can seize/be seized. he’s the only character to directly encounter both of these entities, but outside of him, the neds and the bishops never deal with each other.

last thought, i don’t think there’s any way to get around seizing being a darker aspect of the story. no matter what angle you look at it from, or how you frame it, it’s kind of a horrifying power, even if clancy has to use it against the bishops. and i think this is broadly representative of clancy having to accept all aspects of himself (including that he is tied to the bishops) to break the cycle he’s stuck in. he can’t view things as black and white, he has to be the uniting point of trench/the banditos, dema/the citizens, the neds, and the bishops—all of these aspects, without exclusion.

but thats just my thought! i really do like what you pointed out lmao

hi guys im back to be really fucking annoying abt lore again

upon a rewatch of the “i am clancy” video, i caught a line i think people have glossed over. when talking about the creation of sai, he specifically says “they made me entertain the people. lie to them.” and you know what the big message behind scaled and icy was? clancy is dead. he fully tells us he was lying. like we already knew it was propaganda, and that the bishops were filtering everything he said, and then he outright says “i lied.” of course, this only holds merit if you believe what he says in this video (no im not bitter people think he’s lying in it. youre crazy)

also, just other thoughts—i think people are way too hung up on the tyclancy debate. besides the fact that i don’t understand why it’s still a debate at all, the stuff he talks about in this video goes so far beyond that.

first of all, he mentions his friends (“i can feel my friends rolling their eyes”). he has friends dude. i cant fucking get over that. he even laughs a little when he says it too. guys he has real friends besides torch. i think we moved on from that too fast. tell me more about your friends catboy

second of all and more importantly: “i am a citizen of an old city. well, they say it’s old, but there’s just no proof.” this was also hinted at in two of the fpe letters (transcriptions from ciancyisdead on twt)

and clancy also says vialism is a “hijacked religion”

WHY do we not talk about this more often. guys theyre faking a whole history within dema and manipulating a religion to keep the appearance up. we have no idea what vialism used to be before the bishops got ahold of it and began twisting it to fuel their seizing ability. the bishops’ corruption runs so much deeper than just clancy. his importance comes from his status as an exception and escapee, but like, the bishops are doing a lot outside of him. he has a personal connection that is the center of the story, as it should be, but like. there is so much more. why don’t people ever talk about vialism dude it’s so frustrating to only see the same couple of things constantly debated, especially because half of them have already been laid out, people just refuse to believe the information theyre given

okay leaving this here now bc one of my fics updated

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i actually never ever want AO3 to be censored bc nothing is more fun than reading the tags on a fic and going “huh. didn’t know there was a market for that.”

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so uhhh chapter one of the lighthouse fic (hand in unsinkable hand) exists now. smiles. thumbs up. this one goes out to all three members of clancybearer nation 💪🔥

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episode 39, am i right chat