#I know someone like Adam personally

[b-lysia]

Had this thought when I was looking over Mysty's shoulder a minute ago

Incomming fb post link-

If you're not gonna click the link, it's a just a post where somebody linked some twitter thread written by user @RookieDoe, talking about Adam from Hazbin Hotel's character and defending his apparent lack of misogyny. If someone can find the actual twitter thread & reblog this post with it that'd be amazing, but don't work too hard on it.

Anyway, my thoughts on it under the cut because my comment got... A little long:

Fuck. Yeah this is absolutely correct. I guess I get the Adam ships now, he and Lute are kinda cute or whatever. He actually does have redeeming qualities or rather- he's not intrinsically evil. He's just stupid, and biased against Sinners. That revelation kinda makes the show's concept overall stronger. Hazbin Hotel isn't a show that's simply flipping the "Heaven good, Hell bad" dichotomy of Christian mythos on it's head. It's a story trying to be as focused as possible on the dichotomy between fascism and anarchy, a dissection of the nature of religion/spirituality/social rules themselves, and a dialogue on the nature of what "good and evil" really mean. In fact, if Adam was personally a *malicious* bigot, rather than just being a fixture in an inherently abusive structure (that he clearly doesn't even understand). The waters would actually be kind of muddied, and it'd weaken the show. That's why Lucifer, Lute, and Sera work as Characters too; each fundamentally believing in the system that posits that Sinners are inherently valueless souls, baselessly, with their varied responses to it:

Lucifer losing himself in depression borne of a only barely subtle loathing for Sinners (it's the real reason he's immediately hostile towards Alastor, it's not just that Alastor is trying to supplant his role as Charlie's Dad and is closer to her than him, but that Alastor is doing all of this as a Sinner specifically), which has developed into an overwhelming self loathing by him being bound to Hell with the Sinners he loathes just as much as Sera and Lute. He's analogus to a self loathing queer man; rejected by the church but still believing it's toxic doctrine, and now trying to reconcile his self hatred based on it's principles with the conflicting affection he has for his openly and proudly queer kid ( I can't remember if Charlie is bi or lesbian, daughter).

Lute responding to this inherently abusive system by using being an Exorcist as a justified outlet for sadism that this system clearly instilled in her psyche. She can't see the Sinners as living things with internal worlds apart from her own. The assumptions of evil/bigotry she applies to them are just post hoc justifications after the fact, assumptions that prevent her from questioning why Heaven and Hell exist the way they in the first place. She is monster that runs conversion therapy camps, that starts and fights with "Al Qaeda," that marches down streets with tiki torches and burns crosses cloaked in white sheets. (I wonder if the fact the Exorcists all wear masks is an intentional allusion to this and the concept of The fashion/aesthetic of Evil).

Sera... Sera functions almost exactly the same way, but looks down on even the Exorcists because of their connection to Adam and her (reasonable) disdain for him and his behaviour. But fundamentally, she believes what they believe, and thinks their behavior -at least to the Sinners- is justified. She is every bit as pointlessly sadistic and cruel as Lute, but as a Seraphim she can't be an Exorcist and use the cleansing as an outlet for her worst traits. If Lute is a frothing at the mouth Christian Evangelical ember of the church, or fundamentalist equivalent to any other religion you could think of, then Sera is the Deacon (or equivalent) who lies to and performs the motions of her faith in order to keep the congregation in line as a good suit wearing fascist example. She keeps the image of Heaven clean, all the while clearly wishing she was on the front line attacking protesters and marching down the streets with pitchforks just like Lute. Sera is like the DeSantises, the Marjorie Taylor Greens of the world. She hates Adam and Lute, not for their actions, but because their blatant and open disdain for Sinners make it harder to keep the image of Heaven clean to characters like Emily and the actual citizens of Heaven (the "Winners").

To that end, I almost want to say Adam is like Trump. But Adam actually has a little sense of self, confidence, and self worth. Trump will literally say anything if it'll make the loudest and most actually confident person in the room like him, he doesn't believe shit he says, he's just a fool and a narcissist. Adam is an idiot too, but he's confidently and comfortably himself; he's categorically a bigot, not performatively. Adam is probably closer to what he literally is in the show, the annoying dudebro who isn't intentionally or like... ideologically bigoted, and probably wouldn't hurt you. But he's so fucking stupid, and says bigoted stuff casually enough that you almost don't care and at least can't stand him. He's a purely a product of his environment, a redeemable person. That's actually kinda fitting considering the fact that out of all those characters, he's the only literal human soul. Adam is closest those weird misogynistic 14 yrolds watching Andrew Tate or Dr. Umar and wondering why the girls at his school (Lilith & Eve) don't like him.

[padmesbox]

Hangman Page birthday week → Day seven:

Happy birthday to my favorite wrestler teacher 🎉

Not taking bullshit boomer, condescending advice from nobody but giving evergreen advice that can only come from a millennial [former] teacher:

"Have a plan B [...] I think a lot of people would say like, if you have a plan B, you know, 'you can't give all to plan A, so you're gonna fail at plan A, anyway'. That's not true, I was a high school teacher and I did this, and I'm the effin' World Champion, and at one time I was a high school teacher to make it through this, I had a plan B and I don't need it anymore... have a plan B, life is much more important than, you know, what career you want to follow or what, you know, oh you want people to say about your accomplishments [...] life is much more important than that and you will need to make money to survive, so always have a plan B. That's like, what I feel, people don't press that upon people enough in telling you to chase your dreams —you absolutely, absolutely should— but to also know like you have to reckon with the fact that you probably, statistically will not make much money at this, if any. You have to know that, and you have to be okay with that [...] if you don't reckon with that like, reality, you're setting yourself up for heartbreak one way or the other"

[dollarstoreartsupplies]

i genuinely loved the ratfish pt. 1 and 2 but i really wish that the ratfish was, like, emily or murph

i think it being a member of the college humor cast who has never been on dropout outside of d20 would have been fantastic because no one would ever guess them but they'd click into the humor/dynamics of the cast a lot better

[sableeira]

okay what is everyone’s bsd light novel scene/line that they didn’t believe was an actual canon part of bsd even though they read that with their own eyes

[weedle-testaburger]

the most conflicted feeling is when someone famous you respect died before they could say stupid shit that they probably would've said about current events

[thisisaname-whatahappyname]

something something episode six something something about how so far the show seems to be saying that people can grow and change, that being a bad or good person isnt eternal at all which makes the concept of hell and heaven eternal punishment or eternal bliss is stupid and unfair

[cosmic-ships]

I deleted the ask but the obligatory "You aren't talking about Kylo so that means you don't love him" asks have unwillingly arrived.

Are you fucking serious? Yes, I am very hyperfixated on Adam (sackler) does that mean I've completely forgotten about Kylo and magically lost all feelings for him? Absolutely NOT.

Kylo is and always will be my number one, ultimate main. Hell I changed my username to something that aligns with my ship (the nickname he calls me!)

I am always thinking about Kylo in one way or another. Just because I'm not talking about him (publically here) a lot doesn't mean I love him any less! Yes I am pissed at this. Yes I am annoyed that whoever sent that had the audacity to think such a thing.

I love Kylo with my entire being, if you stuck around and seen my gush posts about him you'd know. You would ALSO know that Sackler is actually right up there with Kylo in terms of how I feel about him as he continually helps me through things irl (mental state)

this man is also literally helping me to love my own body because of the way he canonical acts as well which I have posts of. Hell I have a little fic called Motivated about it

So don't come in here and tell me how to feel. Both him and Kylo mean a lot to me in different ways so sit down and shut your mouth.(directed at the anon)

Gonna idk...go make coffee or something now. This anon really upset me

[miniagula]

ghouls. is this a safe space. bc i actually really love vaggie and i really really want to love her relationship w charlie but series charlie sometimes makes me want 2 eat drywall in the not-fun way

to tldr it: shit just didn't live up the way i thought it would be lmao

idk what it is that's giving me the bad taste in my mouth but particularly off the dome it's her desire w BEING GOOD and her disdain for hell, the show's pacing, and her inability to stand up for herself? like. why are you apologizing to the angels trying to kill you‼️‼️

sometimes it felt like charlie only rlly cared abt heaven and being good rather than loving her people for what they were, and doesn't seem to mind violence as long as it's undertaken for her own gain. and i don't have a problem with that! i thought they were interesting traits/conflicts that would get some more focus but they. didn't.

and vaggie. i LOVE vaggie so much. i love her design, i love her voice, i love the fallen angel background, i love she has so much love for charlie. ik that last bit is a point of contention for people but i loved it, and i thought all of it would also get more focus and it also didn't

[abra-ka-dammit]

listen. mutuals isnt a special relationship, (assuming mutuals is the only "relationship" you have w the other person.)

you're not besties. so if they keep accidentally forgetting to tag some of your 25 random innocuous triggers, instead of vagueposting and causing drama, or having a hissy fit in DMs, u can just. unfollow. its okay. youre not lovers. youre not family. youre not even friends. youre two people who happened to like each other's post content on the internet. just unfollow. cater your internet experience to yourself if it's important for you to have a safe place. dont put it on strangers to cater it to for you.

[confinesofmy]

how you gonna vote your way out of something you didn't even vote your way into...

[canislupusangelus]

I love Chappell Roan I love loving something slightly more mainstream than I usually do so I can actually find other people that like it I love pop I love being queer

[cabeswaterdrowned]

hmm random but does anyone have any ideas or headcanons about what Adam and Jordan’s dynamic would be like?

[remember-ur-alive]

CHAT I MISS MY S^W YA0I

[wlwgang]

Guys wait I had shiver on my nook from ages ago I’m rereading… watch this space

[pyr0cue]

uhmm anyway the way Amanda is sees herself in Gabriela which is why she feels so guilty about hurting her but she sees a friend in adam which is why she can’t let him live

[firebirdsdaughter]

I respect your right…

… To interpret this honestly incredibly vague character writing/story telling in this way. I respect it.

You're wrong, but I respect it.