#I just want more allies for Kaito
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everythingblackblack · 6 months ago
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Isao Shinjo is Kaito's new best friend, who is exploited at work.
After a while (quite a long time I must say), I watched the movie 8 again. He always thought that Kaito is a little lonely, I want him to make friends. Spoiler: It's just me saying nonsense.
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It just made me laugh that these two swapped places.
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Kaito also makes Isao look very handsome.
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The dynamic I imagine between these two is Kaito taking advantage of his new friend's acting skills. But instead of asking him to dress up as Kid, he tells him to dress up as Kaito Kuroba.
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Kaito then returns the favor by pretending to be him when he's sick or something like that.
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lampochkaart · 1 year ago
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You know, the more I think about it, the more it makes sense
I think one of the reasons why Kaito said that he didn't fully believe Kokichi's dying words and still hated him might be because... He didn't want to believe. He denied it because admitting it would mean admitting that he had killed an ally. And even though Kokichi asked for it himself, it still feels... bad. Awful. Kaito already 100% blames himself for this death, even if he didn’t want to really show it. Because if he didn't care, he wouldn't put SO much effort into his acting (and he gave his 200%). Plus, he's a very good-hearted person on his own.
So, if he would admit that he killed a (mostly) good person, then what kind of person does this make him? Does that mean that he is not so good of a person himself? And that bothers him not just because of his obsession with being a hero. He has a very strong moral principles. He always wants to help everyone.
Too little time had passed since the murder, and that time was mostly taken up by the Class Trial, where he had no time to process anything. Kaito simply didn't have an opportunity for that. I'm pretty sure he's still at the stage of denial. He simply refused to think about it, because deep down, of course, he understands everything. But he was not ready to admit this yet, especially out loud, and ESPECIALLY in front of his friends. Admitting this out loud would make this real. Admitting it out loud would mean admitting defeat.
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iamumbra195 · 3 months ago
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Detective Conan/DCMK characters in a Classroom of the Elite setting would be so interesting to watch/read.
I've only just finished the CoTE anime (Seasons 1-3) so i haven't read the manga or the light novel but the Advanced Nurturing Highschool or AHNS for short is so, so shady. If it and the White Room existed in the DCMK universe, I have no doubt in my mind that they would have some connection to the Black Organization.
So just imagine an AU where Shinichi caught Vodka doing an arms deal in middle school but didn't get caught by Gin like in canon. Imagine him trying to investigate them but coming up with nothing until he, Ran, and Sonoko are on a train ride for the first day at AHNS where he runs into Gin and Vodka, just like he did in canon episode 5.
He learns their codenames there and saves the people on the train from being bombed to hell. Unfortunately, this ends up making him, Ran and Sonoko late for their very first day. They're thankfully excused because the incident was out of their hands before being placed into their respective classes.
You can have adult characters like Jodie and Amuro be teachers and business owners while also acting as undercover agents.
Important student characters at the school:
Hattori Heiji (he can be in the same class as Shinichi where they are both antagonistic at first but later become allies and friends)
Toyama Kazuha (they were made for each, I will never seperate them)
Kuroba Kaito (who also happens to be Kaitou KID and regularly sneaks off school campus for heists. Jii Konosuke cases places for him and he contacts the man using a secret phone he smuggled in. He tends to downplay his academic and physical skill to be somewhat average so he's in Class C or B)
Nakamori Aoko
Akako Koizumi (no magic in this AU but she's interested in spirituality and shit like tarot cards and all)
Hakuba Saguru (suspects of Kaito of being KId and regularaly requests time off from school to go to the heists)
Eisuke Hondou (but only for a little while near the end of 1st year as a rival for Shinichi and love interest for Ran before going back to America to pursue the future he wanted)
Sera Masumi (would be introduced in 2nd Year when Shinichi starts investigating Bourbon as a potential subject because she somehow found out he has connection to the maker of the pill that shrunk her mother)
Important characters outside of school
Agasa Hiroshi (supplies Shinichi with spy tech)
Haibara Ai AKA Miyano Shiho (shrunken and lives with Agasa just like in canon, specifically sought Agasa out because he was a connection to Shinichi, who was involved in her sister's case and was a detective at that. They contact each other through secret phone. She also happens to be one of the failed subjects of the white room)
Miyano Akemi (During school break, Shinichi went back to Beika where he was then approached by Masami Hiroto and the rest goes like canon with her dying in his arms)
Akai Shuichi (still don't know what I'm gonna do with him but he's important)
Rena Mizunashi AKA Hidemi Hondou
Side Characters in school
Nakamichi (Shinichi's soccer friend)
Eisuke Aizawa (Shinichi's soccer friend)
Kazumi Tsukamoto (a third year in Ran's karate club)
Tashiro (Ran's friend)
Hidaka (Ran's friend)
Anyways, I imagine Shinichi being in a different class from Ran and Sonoko and just thinking about ShinRan competeing but also saving each other's asses from time to time is beautiful.
Having Kaito and Shinichi's respective Black Organization be one and the same would make it more interesting as well.
Anyways, I think these characters are fun to play around with in this setting, mixing the dramatic school life in CoTE with the looming threat of the Black Organization as Shinichi delves deeper and deeper into the case.
Idk how this would be resolved but it would be so, so fun to read if written well. Shinichi's gonna be so paranoid by the end of this lol.
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yanderes-galore · 2 years ago
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Can I request general hcs for Ryoma Hoshi? If not, then Shuichi Saiahra?
(Feel free to ignore this)
I can do Shuichi, yeah! I tried to keep this as spoiler free as I could, but just in case, I suggest before you read this you've atleast seen Chapter 1 until the end.
I hope I got his character right!
Yandere! Shuichi Saihara Concept
Pairing: Romantic
Possible Trigger Warnings: Gender-Neutral Darling, Clingy behavior, Manipulation, Implied intimacy, Dubious relationship, Touch starved Shuichi, Isolation mention, Implied stalking, Confidence issues, Trust issues, Delusional behavior.
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Shuichi shows at least two, maybe three different personalities throughout the game.
The one before Kaede's death, the one after, and pregame if you want to count that one.
However, this concept will focus on Pre/Post Kaede death.
You most likely met Shuichi before the first class trial.
At this point Shuichi is shy, easily nervous, and doesn't have a lot of confidence in his situation.
Kaede is most likely the bridge between you until he has some confidence of his own.
The bubbly girl makes you three a trio throughout your first few days in this isolated hell of yours.
Shuichi trusts you and sees you as an ally and friend.
You'll find he flusters quickly and blushes whenever he talks with you.
He doesn't necessarily have feelings yet but it does happen a lot around you.
Kaede probably makes small jabs at him about his staring and blushing around you.
This does not help him compose himself in the slightest.
Shuichi's attraction is subtle until after the first class trial.
Many are a mess after Kaede's death, including you and Shuichi.
Although, her death brings you two closer.
No longer a trio, instead a duo, you two help console each other.
This helps solidify Shuichi's festering feelings about you.
Even when you two hang around with Kaito or Kokichi, Shuichi still finds himself the closest with you.
Shuichi is Clingy, Manipulative, Loyal, Delusional and very dependent when it comes to his darling for the most part.
It's said Shuichi is shy about romance, but he takes it very seriously.
He trusts his darling with his life.
He also trusts you to be loyal like him, yet his lack of confidence makes him scared you'll like someone else.
Shuichi is also a bit submissive towards his darling.
He likes your touch and feels safe around you....
Shuichi gets incredibly defensive when people bring up his obsession.
He isn't a creep, he swears!
Shuichi tries to convince himself his obsession over you is normal considering the situation.
He just... wants to fulfill Kaede's promise with you.
That's why he follows you everywhere-
Plus he just seems like himself when around you.
He visits your room often, walks with you everywhere, he's just happy to be with you.
He'd be so flustered at physical contact at first.
So if you like to hug, he'll freeze before giving into it.
He gets better the more it happens.
He loves your hugs, your warmth is the most comforting thing in this place.
There's times you'll barely get alone time as Shuichi acts like he's scared to leave you alone.
He would be lying if he said he trusted everyone around you-
Shuichi himself is a liar at times, which makes him manipulative.
V3 brings in the mechanic of lies into Danganronpa.
A lot of the V3 cast would lie to encourage you to do something.
Shuichi does it just to keep you beside him.
He hates being so cautious about everyone...
Although one slip up and he may lose you forever.
Better safe than sorry.
Shuichi promises to you, truthful as always, that he'll never let anyone harm you.
Kaede would want him to look after you while she's gone... he knows it.
Shuichi would probably stutter and lose a lot of his confidence if you ever asked him to go to the love hotel.
He wants to... he really does...
He just needs time to prepare-
Shuichi seems like the type of yandere to do whatever he can to show he loves you.
He's dedicated, but not deranged enough to kill someone out of jealousy or kidnap fully.
He may try to convince you to stay in his room for long periods of time, however.
Isolation would probably be up his alley if he was able to.
Shuichi would be so sloppy when it comes to affection.
He's so nervous when it comes to hugs and kisses.
Your touch just feels so good, though...
Touch starved. Shuichi definitely feels like the touch starved type.
While Shuichi gains confidence, he'd still probably want his darling to say he's theirs.
Shuichi wants nothing more than to have his darling be his, and him be yours.
You could use him however you wish, he doesn't care, he loves and trusts you almost blindly with his obsession.
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silicon-tmblr · 1 year ago
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What are some Sexuality headcanons you have for danganronpa
Ohhhh I have so much to say you have no idea
I'll go with my DRV3 post-game headcanons because that's generally what I think about!
Shuichi: Disaster bi. I recently had the thought that he'd actually be awesome as nonbinary, but I feel like he's the type to realize that in his mid 30s or something
Kaito: Bigger disaster bi than Shuichi somehow. I like to think that, while he's iffy/confused about gay people, he accepts trans people without a thought (he's just like "oh you're actually a guy/girl! okay") and just demands that they "act like their gender" bahaha
Ryoma: I know this is a controversial thing to say but. Straight. cis/het. But he's like the biggest and nicest ally ever because well his entire friend group is very queer
Rantaro: I don't see this enough!!!! Aro/ace Rantaro!!! His love hotel is literally him being a tutor with no romantic or sexual undertones!!!! His character concept is probably "playboy with no interest in romance"!! But yeah aro/ace, romance and sex-repulsed
Gonta: Probably pan, but fairly heteronormative. I feel like he gets married in middle age because he's really not searching for a relationship for most of his life and more busy enjoying his hobbies!
Kokichi: Obviously very gay! I generally have him as a trans guy who, due to some shenanigans that happened in his childhood, thought he was a cis guy (until puberty hit and he had to figure out why he was freaking bleeding). Ironically, I like to call him "the cissest of cis guys" haha
Korekiyo: Ace! Not looking for a romantic relationship but I like to think he has a strong platonic partnership with Tenko
Keebo: Aro/ace, romance-positive and sex-neutral. He doesn't experience romantic or sexual attraction but is totally open to a romantic relationship. Intersex and he/him nonbinary, but he generally keeps it to himself and only tells people he trusts
Kirumi: Gay gay lesbian gay. She loves GL (Girl's love genre) but keeps it a secret
Himiko: Aromantic and bisexual! She tends more towards girls than guys
Maki: PSA Maki is gay and was straightwashed when they put her in Danganronpa 53. I mean, Tsumugi really said "I made you fall in love with a guy for plot!" I like to think Maki gets out of DRV3 and her first thought is "why was I straight" (for legal reasons this is a joke and bi Maki believers are based but. gay maki)
Tenko: Bi Tenko bi Tenko I KNOW people insist she's a lesbian (and you people are based) buuut I think even in Danganronpa Tenko is bi. People don't choose who they're attracted to, so her being raised to hate men doesn't mean she can't be attracted to them! Okay that's my ted talk about bi tenko
Tsumugi: Her orientation is none of your business (is what she will say, but I will expose her as the bisexual she is)
Angie: Pan! Kinda heteronormative but she learns not to be
Miu: Pan. I think she would meet someone on the internet that she clicks super well with and then they fly out to meet each other and get married
Kaede: Lesbian! So lesbian. I will insist forever that she isn't actually interested in Shuichi and is just super awkward around him because she doesn't want to lead him on when she's gay
That's it for V3! I don't have as many for the other games, mostly since I'm not as interested in or familiar with them (I like to joke that V3 has the gayest cast and everyone in DR2 is straight (obviously untrue, the irrefutable evidence: Nagito)), but here's a few I like:
Chiaki: Trans girl! She's also straight bahaha
Hiyoko: I used to think she'd be the type to act homophobic "as a joke" but then I realized she's super gay. She'd probably still act homophobic though
Nagito: Bi, for the sole reason of: I think he should date Chiaki
Akane: Seems ace!
Mahiru: I think she's straight, but she's a total lesbian magnet
Hajime: Bi (duh). Cursed to be maidenless
Chihiro: Nonbinary, he/they in conversation but always they/them in writing
Junko: This lady is very heterosexual and cisgender
Mukuro: Bi
Makoto: Bi
I also like to joke that all the girls in DR1 are straight and all the boys in DR1 are gay because everyone is in love with Makoto (obviously false because there are some very gay girls and not so gay dudes)
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solarianvoidthearoace · 1 year ago
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I really need to start plotting that “SaguKaiShin, Conan got snatched, Saguru alerts everyone, Kaito shows up as Shinichi, Amuro kicks the MPD around until they do as he says because he is more qualified dammit! And Okiya is trying to mitigate between Amuro and everyone because they are all worried but the boy probably has himself handled… somewhat. While Ran is awkwardly tiptoeing around Shinichi and Masumi is giving him (Okiya) a side-eye from heck”
Low stakes case, just Saguru and Conan on-scene
It can’t be a KID heist because I don’t want Kaito to be guilty on top of worried sick
So it’s probably a white collar crime first and murder second because that’s where I see Hakuba
Actually – it was a white collar crime but because he brought Conan along, well
Conan’s aura of a shinigami strikes again
It probably got late, so they are out past 8pm when things go off-kilter
So Saguru alerts EVERYONE in Tokyo (who doesn’t have a bed time)
Ran shows up with Masumi and maybe Sonoko because just try keeping Ran and Masumi away – if you want to lose your kneecaps that is
Okiya and Amuro show up together, causing Saguru to frown before he focuses on the matter at hand
Saguru knows about them but he doesn’t know about them; he’s just aware they are close-to-the-heart allies and confidants
And Saguru is fully aware Akai and Furuya are as deadly as Conan’s acquaintances get if push comes to shove, something all three hope won’t be necessary
While they are strategising Kaito waltzes in as Shinichi
Ran immediately tenses up because when Shinichi let her down gently she was anything but (yes I will stick with my opinion that she would smack him seven ways to Sunday if he broke up with her)
“Shinichi” shoots her a stink eye but it’s not the time nor place to lay into her for slapping him (Kaito in disguise) when he broke up with her
Saguru gets them back on track, although by pointedly possessively catching “Shinichi’s” attention
The briefing goes more smoothly than expected, Amuro and Okiya basically just directing the teen detectives to utilise their strengths/ fields of expertise
Amuro gets to work bossing around the MPD because he is more qualified dammit!
Okiya isn’t in the mood to try and calm Amuro but he does help keep up their civilian covers
Amuro let’s a mixture of Bourbon and Furuya’s authority shine through though, basically scaring everyone into compliance
Even Megure taking a step back and reassuring Okiya he doesn’t need to explain what, why, how
Because why and how the private eye waiter Amuro manages to wrangle a police unit with ease is… something Megure decided is above his pay grade
Okiya also mitigates at least towards the teen detectives
Masumi feels Amuro is sus but Okiya straight-up gets the stink eye
The further the case progresses, the more Ran gets mildly scared of Amuro
Amuro is sort-of in his element, bits of Furuya and Bourbon blinking through
Okiya knows he should reassure Ran about Amuro but honestly he likes when Furuya gets a bit carried away
Saguru and “Shinichi” are very worried and comforting each other but also do their best to solve the case
For Furuya it’s a nice change of pace not having to go through Kazami for once, although he would have if he hadn’t been so hard pressed to get moving to save Conan
Maybe Amuro slips up, since so much of Furuya us shining through anyway, and calls Conan “his kid” (if anyone noticed they don’t mention it, Akai just giving a short nod because yes, Shinichi is their kid, somehow)
Everyone is grateful for Amuro and Okiya taking over management of the crime scene/ case
Because Megure basically adopted Conan into his division and he can’t think all that clearly with his second foster-nephew missing
Okiya let’s Amuro have the reigns but also steps in and holds him in check, making sure everyone stays somewhat levelheaded
Akai decidedly likes that Furuya has characteristics of Bourbon but he also knows they aren’t always helpful
Narrative parallel between Saguru and “Shinichi” to Amuro and Okiya
Saguru and Akai keeping Kaito and Furuya, respectively, from being too obsessive
Basically Conan has two boyfriends and two adoptive uncles willing to commit crimes to rescue him
Conan was drugged but is otherwise fine – no grade schoolers were harmed in the making of this fic!
During the reunion, Kaito can barely contain himself, which leads to Okiya unceremoniously shoving the throuple into a side room until they calm down
Once worries have been soothed and kisses exchanged, they emerge with Conan held between Saguru and “Shinichi”
Fic ends with a car ride of Akai and Furuya berating Shinichi while Saguru and Kaito just smother him in snuggles
Shinichi, narratively, remarks that this absolute chaos of people is the best family he has ever had (no shade on the Kudōs but they are absentee parents)
I will probably hint at a dynamic akin to the Oven Mitt Family but also A Blood Stained Heist is an influence/ vague inspo for this
The switches between names/ aliases throughout the bullet points are deliberate, btw
ETA: Series was created here. Tumblr post about it.
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kawarikisaki · 1 year ago
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He also seems to trust and respect Akako beyond the crush thing and judging by Sun Halo I think he’s mostly gotten over it. Wether he still likes her(that way) or not is up in the air.
Perhaps this one is going to be a hot take, but I'm not actually convinced that he was ever crushing on Akako.
He thought she was pretty for sure. He blushes the first time he takes notice of her, but if blush was all that was needed to make a crush then Kid makes Hakuba's face much redder than Akako does, just saying.
The first time was see them interact is in A Gift from Akako, but the extent of the interaction is really just that; Akako approaches when Kaito and Hakuba are talking, Hakuba blushes a little 'oh we had a girl like that in our class too?' and then Akako pulls Kaito away. When Akako later impersonates Kaito as Kid she does get a big reaction out of him, but honestly there's not really much there.
I don't think it's enough to claim he has a crush on her, especially when any other time they're together going forward they seem to just be friends- weird friends but friends nonetheless. And even if I were to concede that he had a crush on her we can't be sure that was his real feelings and not the effects of her magic. So that doesn't really mean much.
What does mean something is that like I already brought up their next interactions are weird but friendly.
When Midnight Crow rolls around they're at the point where they can banter a little. The interaction we see is brief, and Kaito is also a part of it, but we see both Akako and Hakuba approach Kaito for the same reason but take different paths to get there. Hakuba saying in more flowery words 'I have white in my name so I don't want to see white lose to black', while Akako says 'this black one may be strong, but I want to see the underdog struggle and win.' Both are expressing that in this instance at least they're rooting for Kaito, they don't want him to lose to anyone unless it's one of them, and they don't really hide this from each other- they do however hide it from Aoko, clamming up when she joins the conversation.
And they do something similar again in Sun Halo, with Akako telling Kaito 'hey I read your fortune, it's not good, maybe postpone what you have planed for tonight, but if you do I'm cheering for you' and Hakuba saying 'oh cool, you've gotten a motorcycle license I'll keep that in mind for later but just so you know that's not allowed at school so maybe don't break the law in your civilian persona.' Though notably this time they do it in front of Aoko, though do still take steps to make sure that Aoko doesn't hear a single accusation of Kaito being Kid.
So what does this mean? Akako and Kaito are both aware that the other is an ally.
And we actually see that come into play later in Sun Halo when Akako calls Hakuba and essentially entrusts him with one of her greatest secrets, admitting to having summoned Lucifer to obtain information on where Kid was. And while Hakuba probably doesn't believe that's really her source he does end up trusting her enough to take the clue she got him and is able to follow it to it's conclusion, and when asked how he did it he doesn't tell anyone, but he does inwardly thank Akako for the hint. Just that shows so much respect and trust between these two. It's lovely, magical even, that Akako trusts Hakuba with her secret and Hakuba earns that trust by not outing her but respects her enough to take it as true whether he believes the source or not.
Also the fact that he has her number in his phone and answered even though he was busy. This doesn't seem like something that happens very often, seeing as Hakuba seems a bit surprised by it, but even so it speaks to the idea that these two have interacted outside of what we've seen. So yes, Trust, Respect, Friendship, bonding over their shared rival/friend..... that makes it sound like a Shonen battle manga, but I definitely think it's accurate.
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manofmanymons · 6 months ago
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I am cringe but I am free
By which I mean here are my Survive kids with Genshin weapons and visions hcs
Takuma is the main character and therefore he is the avatar, he has all the elements. He'd be a sword wielder, and like Traveler he can be a support or dps depending on the element. He's best as a pyro dps.
Minoru is a pyro sword. Survive's very own Bennett (absolutely busted support/sub dps). Attack buffs and elemental infusion. He'd have a passive talent to increase movement speed during the day like Dehya.
Kaito is ALSO pyro but a catalyst. But like a catalyst specifically in the way that Shikanoin Heizou is a catalyst. Meaning that instead of casting fireball he just punches you in the face with a flame-covered fist. Ooooh he'd have a mechanic that uses charged attacks to switch between elemental and physical damage so he can still fight enemies immune to pyro. First ever phys dmg catalyst XD 100% on-field main dps, does more damage if his hp is in the red. His fourth constellation is a shield.
Miu is an electro claymore. I like when tiny people have big weapons. Also the mental image of Kaito constantly being stressed out by her swinging a giant sword around is funny to me. Debuffer with a summon/taunt like Mona. Her damage scales on defense instead of attack. Passive talent increases party members' def by a percentage of her own.
Ryo is a cryo archer. Off-field dps who specializes in cryo application to set up reactions for the others. Party members within the cryo field he creates get elemental mastery boost. His C6 has an insane party-wide crit damage boost. Basically the midpoint between Diona and Faruzan.
Shuuji is a hydro polearm. Very similar role to Xingqiu imo. Minor def and healing, big damage boost. Off-field dps. Despite being hydro instead of electro his kit revolves around energy recharge (also like Mona).
Aoi is an anemo catalyst and healer. If you build her right it's just infinite heals, your team is functionally immortal. Her ult is good for crowd control like Venti or Sucrose and her passive talent is doubling the yield when cooking healing foods.
Saki...dendro bow. S++ tier dendro application for reactions (does this make her best teammates Shuuji and Miu?) primarily a sub dps but her ult is like Qiqi's where it inflicts a debuff on enemies that lets her allies heal themselves by attacking the enemies with the debuff.
Akiharu...geo sword. I wanted to say catalyst or polearm at first but I think he should have a sword to mirror Takuma. Shielder/off-field dps like Zhongli. Passive talent has a chance to double talent books when crafting.
Miyuki...I'm trying so hard not just say electro catalyst like Yae Miko because haha kitsune shrine maiden. I'm gonna say geo polearm instead. Buffer/dps who uses summons like Furina who can also heal by sacrificing her own hp like Shinobu.
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newspropaganda · 19 days ago
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I'm sorry, but I just can't agree with your Yu-Gi-Oh! Zexal 2 - When Splitting A Season is Shilling Bad Writing All Over post. And for 3 reasons.
1- You said that the characters didn't grow. That's wrong. Yuma was initially a hot-headed, stubborn, and poor duelist. But as the series goes on, Astral (who was a literal alien that didn't understand emotions, humans, the difference of fiction and reality, etc), helps him to be a better person as a whole. And in turn, Yuma does the same for him. Not only did Yuma become the (presumably) best duelist of his time, he also learned to listen and to control his temper. Astral learned about humans, what they did, and about the world they live in. And the two of them end up saving the world together.
2- You said that the villains weren't well-written. That's also not true. The first couple of "threats", so to speak, like Shark, Ukyo, so on and so forth, were essentially to build up the plot. The 1st season is never the prime of a show. And everyone knows that.
Tron was revenge-thirsty because of a wrong he was dealt a while ago. He was essentially sent to hell by one of his most trusted allies. And the only way he could come back was to be in the body of a child with a black hole in the side of his face.
Tell me who wouldn't be brutally angered by that?
But aside from that, because of his knew-found child-like persona and his thirst for revenge, his sons didn't even want to interact with him like they used to. They wanted the father they knew. And it would hurt me if I were Tron in this case.
But Yuma shed some light on him. He gave speeches, explanations, anything in his power to try to save Tron, even though it didn't even concern him. And eventually, Tron came to his senses, and he's the reason that Yuma, Kaito and Faker are still alive. And at the end of the anime, he even helped to hold off the forces of Barian world so that the world could be saved.
As for Kaito, who I would consider a villain of sorts, he collected Numbers to help save his brother Haruto, because he cared about him. And technically speaking here, it wasn't even a lie told to him by his father. Faker made a deal with Vector that he would cure Haruto if he destroyed Astral world. And that meant collecting the Numbers. So that means that here we have a son and his father who care that much about their son/little brother that they would literally risk their lives for him.
And after stealing dozens of innocent souls, Kaito finds out that his father was 'lying' to him. And he felt bad. Though he began to like doing it (because he is a sadistic kind of person), he didn't want to steal souls of anyone for some strange deal his father made.
And I can get that.
After his duel with his father, Yuma and Shark, he does become a better person. As does his father. And that very same episode, Tron proves that he forgave Faker, even though he would never even return to his normal self after what he did.
As for Vector, Don Thousand, No. 96 and the Barians, there is a lot more to them than you'd like to pretend.
Vector was a prince with an abusive father that abused both him and his mother. He was initially a very kind and caring person. But then he witnessed his father, drunken and kinda' crazy, try to hurt him and then proceed to kill his own wife. because she sacrificed herself to save him. And then he fell to an unknown illness.
Vector was struck with horrible grief, and that changed him. And then he was reincarnated into a sadistic, evil Barian by Don Thousand.
Why did Don Thousand want to reincarnate them? Because he saw the malice and envy in their hearts. And that would help him to get the Numeron Code.
But let's take a step back here.
Don Thousand had an ancient battle with Astral, and it resulted in the two of them being locked away. While Astral was freed, Don Thousand was not. And Vector only freed him in hopes to gain his power.
And after that, because Vector sacrificed himself to gain that power, Don Thousand had control over what he did. Which meant that it was Numeron Code time.
No. 96 was a part of Don Thousand that was separated in that ancient battle. He was there mainly for plot convenience, but that doesn't mean that he didn't have an at least semi-compelling character. He was the direct opposite of Astral. He "had envy and malice, things that Astral lacked" and for that reason, he wanted Astral to be on his side, because Astral would help him to complete his schemes.
He didn't much care for the Barians, but was willing to work with them for power. And that power was the reason of his downfall.
Now Don Thousand wanted the power of the Numeron Code to destroy Astral world in order to rank up his world. And he wasn't the only one. Eliphas wanted to, and that was the only reason that Astral was created. To help Astral World achieve a rank up. The villains weren't the only ones with faults.
But, as the story goes, he's found out and gets beaten by Yuma, Shark, and technically Kaito.
Though he and the Barians don't survive the battle, the Barians are later reborn as humans, like their past selves, and are forgiven, even though they hurt so many people and did so many bad things.
And let's not forget Nasch. He loved Yuma and Astral as friends, but was pressured by his past friends who he also loved into becoming the leader of the Barians. He didn't want to be enemies with the ones who made him better, but he also didn't want to essentially betray the others. And that led him to become a Barian. But after his duel with Yuma, he realized that he was wrong.
and 3- The show wasn't made dumber for a younger audience. If you watched the sub especially, you can see that BARIAN WORLD IS LITERAL HELL and that Don Thousand converted the Barians to being demons. Like pre-schoolers are gonna' go around watching a show that depicts demons, soul-sucking antagonists who claim that they have sold their soul to the devil, monsters, big tits and many other things (including a scene where Yuma kicks Guache in the nuts)? Maybe you watched the dub, which is significally more child-safe, but what part of that speaks "a show for really young children"?
And as an extra side, there are tons of people out there that really enjoyed Zexal. And if it's too child-ish for you, why don't you check out Sevens, where they are literal children with hilarious goals? Then you could go rag on an actual yugioh for young children.
Anyways, this wraps up my response to your latest post.
Zexalisliving out.
Sent more of this cry baby posts for me to roast.
It's like reading a bad fanfic out of the pokemon community on why Ash can't ever escape his kid years.
I don't see how this is nothing more shilling the show for every mistake it made that people like you can't accept or try to even see that Zexal was just made for children. It's not a show or it's a decent one.
The fact you had the balls to sent this monster of a review is why I am the asshole who hates shows like this.
HERE IS BREAKDOWN ON WHY YOUR WRONG COMPETLY!
You had a meltdown over a show that wasn't ever good and is more cringe than woke hollywood actors blaming Trump on climate change.
Deal with it.
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the-therapist-is-ace · 10 months ago
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Do you have any theories on Kokichi? Like his psych stuff and how he gets on with others (like Gonta)
Hello hello, thank you for the ask x)
I admit I didn't even remembered where he said to be psychic at first lmao.
But personally I think it was a lie. He's just really, really good at reading people and analyzing behaviors.
And how he gets along with the others... Yikes do you have the time? xD
I think I'll just talk about Kaede, Kaito and Gonta here. Though maybe I'll do Maki and Shuichi on another post.
(Reminder that all of this is MY interpretation of things... Also I'm rambling a lot. I might get off topic lmao)
First, Kaede!
I think he have a split opinion on her. On one hand, he knows how badly she wants to help, and he can appreciate and encourage that.
But on the other, OH MY GOD she's a bad leader.
She's an amazing motivator, don't get me wrong. But actually leading, it's not her talent and for a good reason. A leader is not only someone that encourage people. It's SO MUCH MORE than that.
She doesn't know how to make people acknowledge the tensions in the group (see: the aftermath of the Death Road of Despair, it was Kokichi who forced everyone to talk about it.) She doesn't know when to stop, which ends with her encouragements turning into forcing people to continue even when they're all exhausted. She doesn't know how to step up to end a conflict between the group (again, see the direct aftermath of the Death Road of Despair...)
And I think as a result, Kokichi is both understanding of her wish to help, but also extremely frustrated with her poor attempts at leading. I think he would bash his head against a wall if she survived more than one trial lmao.
Second Kaito. Oh my god.
I think out of everyone, he's the one that gets on Kokichi's nerves the most. (And a lot of people would agree with me on it I think)
He's the one talking about trust. IN A KILLING GAME.
(Just to be clear I don't think Kokichi is paranoid. He's just reasonably doubtful of people in a life or death situation. Trust is very dangerous in that setting.)
Also, the whole sidekicks/hero thing. I get wanting to help Shuichi by taking responsability of what he'll say in the trials, but there's other way to do that. (Say, isn't that also a leader's responsability to encourage the group?)
And don't get me started with the whole deal with Maki. If anything, I think that's one of the thing that drives Oma crazy the most.
Trying to make Maki understand she's more than an assassin? Good idea! -Even though monitoring her movements would have been ideal- Insisting that she's harmless and a good person to everyone in the meantime? No! You don't know her that well yet, and trusting blindly a professional killer is stupid.
But the worst thing -in Kokichi's opinion- is probably Kaito's impulsivity.
Trying to go against the Exisal the morning when the First Blood Perk is introduce? Stupid, and dangerous! Trying to convince everyone to riot against Monokuma at Kaede's trial? That's endangering everyone!
Trying to gather everyone to fight Monokuma and end the game? DO YOU HAVE A DEATH WISH?!
Kaito's insistence to trust everyone and his impulsivity is a threat to the group in Kokichi's eyes, and I can't blame him for it. Him calling himself a hero is just the annoying cherry on top of it all.
And last but not least, Gonta.
Aaaah Gonta. The translation did you and Kokichi SO dirty.
First and foremost: GONTA IS NOT FUCKING STUPID!
He's naive, yes. Innocent too, absolutely. But he's NOT stupid!
He's a scientist for fuck's sake, it means something. He is not stupid.
And as someone that is both intelligent and also... well kind of naive, Kokichi saw him as a potential ally. Hence why he turned to him for both the Insect Meet and Greet plan, and the Killing Game Busters plans.
Oma is also one of -if not the only one- that sees Gonta as more than just "nice giant". He see him as someone with a brain, but also too much naivete, which in a killing game is not good. So that might be why he took him under his wing so to speak. Gokuhara is also the only one that tried to see more than just Oma's first layer if I remember correctly.
And we're gonna talk about Chapter 4! Wou-ouh let's go.
Gonta was desesperate to end the game. And Oma knew it. Gonta was ALREADY considering doing something drastic to end the game. And Kokichi took advantage of that.
(Now that was probably not done happily. Remember that he was probably still shaken up by the "truth" of the outside world.)
...Or did he?
Oma told -and showed- to Gokuhara what he saw. What he believed himself was true. And the fact that it was false didn't change the fact that they BOTH got manipulated with false informations.
I do truly believe that those two were good friends. Chapter 4 was the tragedy that ended it, but it doesn't mean the friendship wasn't there.
So... Yeah.
TL;DR: I think he appreciated Kaede's wishes to help, but was really exasperated of how bad at leading she was. I think Kaito's behavior irked him -like 90% of the fans lmao- because of how dangerous he saw it to be. And I think he saw Gonta as a friend, and CLEVER enough to make plans with him.
Thank you for asking!
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noctilucentstorm · 2 years ago
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Who are your fav human/partner duo?
Maybe a bit unexpected but my favourite duo actually comes from Digimon Survive.
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Neither of these two are my favourite characters of Digimon Survive. In fact, they probably don't even make my individual top 5. However, they really brought out the best (and sometimes worst) in each other and watching their bond grow was my favourite human-digimon relationship in the game.
Minoru wants more than anything to be a hero, but it's not in a superficial way. He wants to be someone who is kind and chivalrous and swoops in to save the day just in the nick of time. Falcomon embodies a lot of those qualities, but can also be a bit overly formal, where Minoru can put a group of strangers at ease (when he's not putting his foot in his mouth). They admire each other's best qualities and care greatly for one another. I don't think it's coincidence that the closest the group comes to falling apart is when these two are struggling to communicate.
Honorable mentions:
Ghost Game - Kiyoshiro & Jellymon. These two are my favourites from the series and fantastic together. I can't think of a single episode I didn't like when these two were at the centre. Despite the rocky start, they learn to push each other and yet also hold each other to account. Their love of humanity is honestly really endearing.
Digimon Adventure - Jou & Gomamon/ Yamato & Gabumon. I flip-flop between which is my favourite of these two partnerships from Adventure. Both have some fantastic moments of supporting and bettering each other through the series.
Digimon Tamers. Ruki & Renamon. I do like the journey these two go on from allies in the purely functional sense to partners who genuinely care for each other. Plus, Sakuramon is my favourite evolution ever!
Digimon Survive - Kaito & Dracmon/ Miu and Syakomon. These partnerships are both really fun for different reasons. I love the way Dracmon calls out Kaito constantly. Meanwhile, Miu really needs someone who is always on her side and Syakomon fills the role perfectly.
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x0401x · 2 years ago
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I think you should do a post after every Tsurune ep, it's really cathartic to read your thoughts!
If I keep getting messages asking for it, then sure! I’m sorry for being so slow with them, though. Grad school entrance exams are draining away every ounce of my sanity. :^)
I guess this ask means you want a review of episode 5 as well, so here we go! Again, sorry for the wait!
So this episode delivers a lot more of the novel that we didn’t get on S1, such as Kaito and Nanao’s family. I love that we finally got to see their moms and sisters, as well as the fact that they often do get-togethers. Bonus for showing what kinds of pronouns/nicknames they use for each other.
We also get more of the girls’ team being an actual part of the club. Getting a new menu for practice, actively interacting with the boys, helping with prep and cleaning, having screen time doing their own training and officially becoming a team of competitors instead of just... being there.
In the middle of the episode, there’s one more peek at Ryouhei’s house (first one was in episode 2) and at long last, his sister shows up! We only see her back but that’s still something. We’re gradually getting eased into what is probably the second most complicated family of the whole series, and I like that the way KyoAni is going about it is exactly how I’d pictured. Well, more like how I wished S1 was.
Most importantly, perhaps for the very first time in the anime, we got to see Minato thinking about Masaki for no reason. I know this doesn’t sound important, but if I were to pinpoint what Minato’s most frequent habit is in canon, I’d say it’s thinking about Masaki. Whenever Minato is thinking of anything in the novel, Masaki pops right up. That, of course, if he wasn’t already thinking about Masaki to begin with. I don’t remember a single scene from any of the three volumes where Minato is thinking or worrying about something without Masaki hijacking his mind. And it’s never accidental or even incidental. Masaki is one of Minato’s main concerns. He thinks of Masaki about as much as he thinks of his own life. Partly because, one way or another, Masaki is always involved in whatever aspect of his life he’s thinking about. And now KyoAni has given us a small, tiny crumb of that. True allies.
At this point, a good portion of this season feels like a catch-up to S1. Many events of volume 2 are being either omitted or cut out so that there's enough space for the content we didn’t get in S1 to be inserted in this one.
Now, as in every episode, for all the canon-compliant content we get, we get just as much (if not double) non-compliant content.
This episode gives us Nanao and Kaito in a symbiosis. Nanao takes care of Kaito, Kaito protects Nanao. They’re essentially opposites who complete each other. If you take out the OOC-ness, there’s no problem with this choice of narrative... except maybe for the fact that it’s extremely overused. I’ve talked about this before but I feel the need to stress out once again that trying to use formulas that have worked for other series isn’t an effective way to garner more popularity. It actually tends to do the contrary. I do have a lot of respect for the original work’s tendency to avoid that at all costs. Instead, it takes the most common tropes and subverts them. Nanao and Kaito have everything to fall into that commonplace storyline, but the author is having none of it.
Novel!Kaito and Nanao are opposites, true, yet not the kind of opposites who complete each other. Rather, the opposite that completes Kaito is Seiya, but KyoAni is still pretending that Seiya has this exact kind of relationship with Minato instead, so as I mentioned when I talked about episode 4, someone has to fill up that hole. Nanao has been replacing Seiya ever since S1, but I guess KyoAni realized how weird and incesty it looked with it being so one-sided. We only had Nanao obsessively looking out for Kaito in the same way that Seiya obsessively looked after Minato, except there was no deeper reason behind it like there was with Seiya (as in feeling guilty for the death of Minato’s mother). So now this relationship is being balanced out, making it a two-way avenue.
In the novel, Kaito’s been looking after Nanao ever since they were little kids because his aunt asked him to. Nanao had always drawn in the attention of the people around him, and this earned him both favor and disfavor. We’ve seen that in this episode. What we didn’t see, though, is that, because of this, Nanao’s mother asked Kaito to protect him, and the result is that Kaito eventually grew up to be Nanao’s dad. Nanao was well-aware of this and often used it to his advantage. Basically, novel!Kaito is an unwilling “father” with a willing “son” and novel!Seiya is a willing “mother” with an unwilling “son”. He and Seiya have that in common; they’re natural-born caretakers, except Kaito doesn’t realize that he’s in this position. It’s just automatic for him. He’s probably been doing this for longer than Seiya has. That last bit was also shown in this episode, but it was instead presented as Kaito taking the burden on his own accord and compared to Seiya taking on the role of Minato’s watchful eye.
In short, the novel draws a parallel between Kaito and Seiya and uses it as a plot device for their relationship, while the anime draws a parallel between Kaito and Nanao's relationship and Minato and Seiya's relationship. The reason why I'm iffy about this is that it acts as if Kaito taking on other people's burdens is something that he simply does out of nowhere. There doesn’t seem to be much reason for it. With Nanao, we can understand, because that’s his family, but what about him trying to take part of the blame for Minato’s screw-up? This is being presented to us as a habit of his, except with no motive other than “that’s just how he is”.
In the canon, that's not how things go. Kaito does have a lot of concerns regarding the people around him, but as any normal person, he won't break boundaries. If he's not being let into someone else's affairs, he won't butt in, no matter how much he wants to. I dare say that this is a major character trait of his and that is what makes him endearing. He's impulsive as shit, but when he sees that he might hurt someone's feelings or that his input won’t be constructive, he backs off. That’s contra-intuitive for the readers, as we go in expecting him to be the cliche that the anime is giving us, but he isn’t. It’s a pleasant surprise.
And just to put it out there, as far as canon goes, there's literally nothing that Kaito wants more than for Seiya to let him into his personal business. He really wishes that Seiya would share the load with him and that is the main source of his character conflicts in the novels. It sometimes even feels like a parallel to Masaki and Minato, where Minato often makes reluctant mental notes on the fact that Masaki hides a lot of stuff from him. Both Masaki and Seiya are described, from Minato and Kaito’s POVs respectively, as having too many secrets. But that's too gay for TV. A gayness that is worsened by the fact that we never get any explanation for this in the novel. Like, none. Kaito isn't like this with anyone else and the text never goes "it's all because of their strong friendship" on these two. Instead, it gives us a love song as the literal only allusion to their relationship. Go figure.
Can't be having that bullshit in the anime, so change it KyoAni shall. Because anime!Kaito started doing this entirely on his own instead of it being a request from his aunt, we’re getting a different dynamic. KyoAni is adamant about Seiya being Minato’s knight-in-shining-armor (even without him getting the glory for it in this season), and without his presence, Kaito was reduced to an onboxious, arrogant little shit without much personality other than being dedicated to nothing but archery and acting mean to everyone except the teachers in S1. Nanao was there as a plot device in order to make Kaito remotely likable and also so that he’d have some inkling of personality himself, given that most of his lines had gone to Seiya. Yet now he’s here to complement Kaito and vice-versa. In building them like that, KyoAni has turned them into Minato and Seiya, except with a rivalry added to it.
From a storytelling point of view, I find this repetition and lack of creativity to be rather underwhelming. And on a personal level, I still think the way KyoAni goes on about Kaito and Nanao’s relationship is tad creepy. It’s just weird and off-putting to see two cousins mourning so sorely the fact that they’re slowly breaking free from this take-what-you-give system they’ve developed over time. In the novel, Kaito is Nanao’s nanny, sure, but it’s literally just small everyday life things that he does, such as helping Nanao carry heavy luggage or patching him up when he gets hurt during practice. That’s as far as it goes, just like Seiya caring for Minato only goes as far as offering him tea and towels during breaks or nursing him when he gets sick (that, of course, after Seiya has had proper closure from his personal conflicts and stopped being paranoid over Minato’s wellbeing). It’s all pretty normal and chill, fitting perfectly within the scope of what relatives and/or best friends do for each other. And the closest it gets to anything marginally negative is Kaito pointing to Seiya that he’s babying Minato too much while Seiya retorts that Kaito babies Nanao too much, which Kaito is in complete denial about.
I'm also not behind the rivalry between Kaito and Nanao. It totally overshadows the one between Minato and Shuu, and narrative-wise, that's not supposed to happen. It also makes any other sort of rivalry from this point on to feel somewhat repetitive and it doesn't have much of a reason to exist other than cover up for the fact that Nanao and Kaito have no personality otherwise. Besides, it's a contradiction, as far as the boys' skills go. Nanao is a great archer, but he isn't supposed to be able to compete with Kaito. Kaito being the ace is what makes him the oomae to begin with.
Anyway, case in point. I'm not digging this route in the anime, but I’m just gonna turn a blind eye to it. I think we’ve earned a lot of positive stuff from this mess.
Yeah, the flashbacks had some weird undertones. But they were accurate. Everything we got in them after the innitial parts that show the beginning of the duo’s symbiosis is completely in tune with canon. The difference is that we got this in the books in the form of description, while the anime has given us actual scenes, with dialogue and all that. They even include a nod to S1′s drama CD, which elaborates on Kaito and Masaki’s first meeting (something that we also only get in the form of a monologue in the novel).
Speaking of monologues, I like that we’re finally getting some stuff from Nanao’s point of view. In S1, we see very little of him and only through other characters. This time, he’s being his own person and although he’s very toned-down in the anime (just like everyone else, really), that’s still his canon personality. He’s a lot less sparkly than his canon counterpart, but the essence of his character is indeed being presented to us viewers. Add that to the fact that he’s been given his original hairstyle in this season, and there you have it. At long last, it feels like I’m finally seeing Kisaragi Nanao in the anime for the very first time.
Not just that; I feel like we’re also properly seeing his relationship with other characters for the first time. In S1, we basically only got snippets of his relationship with Kaito and that’s it. Here, though, we’ve been getting to see not just a deeper look into said relationship but also him interacting significantly with other characters. The other boys analyzing him and Kaito, looking out for them, knowing them. These boys are on each other's radars. That’s some refreshing shit right there. At last, it feels like we're watching a series about a group of friends. I especially like the emphasis on Minato and Nanao's interaction. Another thing from volume 1 that's being added here. Better late than never.
I gotta confess that every time KyoAni fixes something they left a hole in during S1, it’s as if the fact that something was missing the whole time is being thrown in our faces. It also somehow feels like KyoAni is offering us an apology with each of these little fixes. It leaves a bitter aftertaste, but frankly, I appreciate the effort.
In conclusion, I can overlook the creepy vibes that Kaito and Nanao’s relationship give me in the anime because the pros are worth the cons in my book. But here’s where I draw the line: Kaito being portrayed as violent.
Kaito is described in the novel, throughout all three volumes, as “aggressive”. Because he is. Just not physically. He’s quick-tempered and he runs his mouth when he’s mad, and he’ll go as far as glaring and closing up distance with whoever he’s having a heated discussion with, but never, ever, has he laid a hand on anyone. As far as canon goes, Minato and Seiya are much more likely to throw fist than Kaito. The closest he’s gotten to hitting someone was in a scene where Eisuke insults Kazemai to their faces and he almost loses it, but his arm accidentally hits Seiya’s glasses and knocks them to the floor, which gives him immediate regret. The thing nobody should ever forget about Kaito is that he’s dense and inept, but he has a pure heart.
So Kaito punching his former teammate back in the day? Whack.
Kaito getting pissed during practice and being disrespectful in the dojo? Whack.
Kaito pulling Nanao and Seiya’s collars? Fucking whack, my dudes.
I know that the anime isn’t depicting Kaito like he’s an asshole. Rather, he’s being treated as a reckless kid who takes things too seriously and pushes his feelings and values onto other people. That’s how the novel treats him as well. But the whole point of Kaito is that he seems menacing yet isn’t. He’ll talk shit, sure, but it takes a lot to make him even be willing to physically harm someone. This felt like one of the by-the-book safe-formula things that KyoAni has added to the series because they learned it from Free!, and I’m not a fan of it.
There are things in this episode that I'm a fan of, though. I think the frame composition in this one was especially good. I specially love the way that Kaito and Nanao were placed in all sorts of yin-yang ways on-screen (even though this is something that's supposed to be a Minato and Shuu thing, I'm just taking whatever I can get). But above all, I love the way that Seiya and Kaito are poisitioned in the scenes where they appear together. Finally, the anime is beginning to take a step on closing the distance between them. The physical distance, at least. Their relationship is still nothing like it is in canon, but maybe this is a hint that they will get somewhere near the general area of how deeply connected they are in the books. Maybe.
There's some more stuff that I wanna give my two cents on, but I gotta take a look at the next episodes to make a judgement, so I'll leave just this here for now!
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lampochkaart · 1 year ago
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Long Oumota post
I just wanted to gather my thoughts about them and somehow put into words why I love them so much and how I imagine their relationship would develop. Honestly, it's just something very self indulgent ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The thing about them that captured me first was probably the tragedy. Chapter 5 of V3 is without a doubt my favorite in the whole series. Just thinking about everything from the beginning of the chapter to the very end is driving me crazy. So much has happened, so much has been revealed. It’s so wild how they worked together for everyone's sake even though they had a very tense relationship. But still they were willing to find a common language and make compromises.
And I also can’t stop thinking about how Kokichi basically sacrifised himself for everyone, even though almost none of them would've call him their friend, and Kaito was the only one who witnessed it. He was the only one who saw a glimpse of the real Kokichi, the only one who saw his mask fall (and the one who had to put on the same mask for the plan). And Kaito was the only one who could tell about all of this to others.
Also how much they mirror each other. They’re so different. They’re the same. Momota playing the hero but not being the protagonist, Ouma playing the villain but not being the real bad guy. Momota being idealist, Ouma being cynic. Momota, who’s guided by feelings, ignoring logic, Ouma, who’s guided by logic, ignoring feelings. Momota dying feeling hope, Ouma dying feeling despair. They’re both leaders. They’re both liars. They're both taking the hit so that others won't have to. They're both refusing to ask for help.
They have enough differences to constantly compete and bring the best and the worst of each other. They have enough similarities to understand each other and exist together.
And now here’s some thoughts on how I imagine their relationship will go.
I absolutely LOVE "enemies-to-lovers" trope. But. I like the specific form of this trope. And I'm also a really big fan of slowburn. So it's more like:
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At first first they didn't care about each other very much. But as the game progressed, their opposing ideals and strategies started to clash and eventually mutual annoyance turned into full-blown hostility. Kokichi's "make myself everyone's enemy" strategy escalated situation even further. The absolute breaking point was in Chapter 4.
In Chapter 5 at first Ouma was making preparations for a plan and then declared himself the mastermind and locked Kaito in the Hangar. I believe it was intentional and he was going to use his "unknown victim plan" even before Maki shot him. He was writing the script even before everything went to shit. After using electrobomb to deactivate cameras, he added and changed a few things but for the most part script was written before. All the while in the Hangar before Maki came he was trying to come up with ideas how to convince Kaito to cooperate with him but Momota wasn't really in the mood for it and more often just tried to break out or capture Ouma.
But after Maki left Kokichi, he, seeing the perfect opportunity for the plan, blackmailed Kaito into cooperating. Ouma forced him to drink the antidote (bacause Kaito would never have agreed to drink it if he'd just offered). Momota hated everything about this plan, but there was nothing he could do.
They worked together, but they weren't really close at this point. It's heartbreaking, but I don't think they even hugged in the Hangar. For several reasons. Firstly, obviously because of poison. Kokichi was already feeling REALLY awful from poison, crosbow bolts and blood loss, so physical contact would most likely cause him even more pain. Secondly, Kaito still had mixed feelings about Kokichi and couldn't properly process everything that happened. As for Ouma, he was trying to find balance between Momota caring enough to not abandon the plan and hating him enough to not feel too bad.
So yeah...(As a Virtial Reality AU truther i can afford to make development more slow)
Kaito absolutely hated himself for the murder, but still did his best to carry out the plan. In the end the plan failed and he had no choice but to come out of the Exisal to prevent Monokuma from killing everyone. And as I already said in one of the earlier posts he was probably still at the stage of denial when he was talking with everyone after the Class Trial. He wasn't ready to accept the idea that Ouma was their ally and was actually trying to help. Because admitting it would definetly break him.
But after they woke up from simulation, all of them actually had a chance to fix things, since they now weren't constantly under threat of death. And Kaito was hellbent on making Kokichi his friend. But of course Ouma would never make it easy. He's VERY stubborn, and the more someone tries to pull him along, the more Kokichi resists. However, after Kaito changed tactics and stoped pushing too hard, the two began to grow closer. They become actually very good friends. They have many common interests and they enjoy each other's company.
And then the "Oh shit" moment happened.
Technically Kokichi was first to catch feelings, but... he wasn't going to do anything about it. He's like "uh oh, that's pretty inconvenient. oh well." Because, first of all, he doesn't want to die and he's 100% sure Maki would definitely kill him if he'd even joke about in front of her. And also... he doesn't want to accidentaly ruin his friendship with Kaito because he really enjoys spending time with him. So he decided to keep things as they are. But Kaito didn’t.
You know, I've got a confession to make. I really like the idea of Ouma being the oblivious one. Both because it's so funny and also because I think Kokichi might just actually not consider a possibility of someone having feelings for him. So he just misses or outright ignores any hints that Kaito not-so-subtly makes. Which drives Momota insane.
His friends support him, even though most of them are not very happy about this development. Eventually Kaito decided to just confront him and tell him everything (not without Maki's advice: "For fuck's sake, just tell everything outright. I don't want to listen to your whining anymore. If he's gonna laugh at you just punch him.") And he did (tell, not punch). Kokichi just stared at him with blank expression for a full minute (he's making sure that Kaito's not lying) and then casually said "okay.” playing it off like it's not a big deal (but it is).
I think at first Suichi and Make were kinda suspicious of Kokichi and watched him very carefully to make sure that he wasn’t just using Kaito to get whatever he wanted. It didn’t help that Ouma was often jokingly saying stuff like that. But Shuichi, after careful observation began to notice very small, almost imperceptible things. Like when Kokichi sometimes “accidentally” loses to Kaito in some games after so many wins in a row, just so that Momota doesn’t get bored and instead would want to play even more. Or that Ouma actually pays attention every time Momota starts babbling about space even if he tries to look uninterested. Or how doodles of constellations started to appear in the margins of his notes or blueprints. And the fact that he for some reason become intrested in plants and proper care for them and secretly asks Kirumi and Gonta for advise. All those things are invisible to most people but the more you’re paying attention the more you start to notice. And it seems like Kaito also notices them (and is very happy about it). So even Shuichi and Maki accept this unexpected development.
I think together they could be sort of a major inspirational force for the class. And not just in romantical sence but in general. They’re fine with being the center of attention (for a while) and are not ashamed of being a little silly, so they can help less confident people from class to gather courage to do something. Like at any dance party they’re most likely to be the first to go to the dance floor. Or if they all are going to karaoke Kokichi and Kaito would be competing and singing with a little too much passion and energy. Or just be the first ones to volonteer to do something and by doing so encouraging others to join. I think it’s very cool.
Also I did those ship bingo things that I see everywhere. I didn't know where to put them so they'll just be here at the very end.
I think some of my choices here might raise some questions, so if you want you can send me asks and I'll explain my thought process here
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catapimbinha · 2 years ago
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[Below the cut there are some drawings if you are interested.]
So we're we are, Claw!Takenaka
After Takenaka joined the tennis club he brought many young recruits into the seventh division through manipulation, telling them exactly what they wanted to hear by simply reading their thoughts, and with the help of the most popular girl in school, and most boys' crush, Tsubomi, who doesn't know exactly how Takenaka is getting the boys to stop bothering her, and just deduced it to be an extra curricular group. Which it isn't.
As he is actively looking for espers or potential young espers that could become useful, it wasn't hard to find one of the Shiratori brothers, Kaito, who knows that Takenaka is up to something, but he can't just speak or telepathically warn his brother Daichi because Momozou is reading both their minds. He ends up entering the espers kid lab, at the same time where Ritsu also arrived, who is pretending to be his brother, Shigeo Kageyama, what according to Ritsu's mind, "An esper far more powerful than anyone in this room". It's not a reliable source, because Ritsu's face is plastered with some sort of brother complex, but if true, Shigeo Kageyama could be a troublesome enemy, or a powerful ally...
And takenaka prefers the second option, so the other day he went after him.
But why is the esper guy with imaginable powers hanging out with Kurata-senpai?!
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"Do they really understand you? Or are you just alone in a different way now?"
A scene with the same vibe as the canon one, but well before the aliens arc apparently, but hey, it's good to imagine more scenes of my peach boy!
And he gets a scar on his ear, too, at least until when all Scars of seventh division lose their scars.
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I simply love them
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imagination-qm · 1 year ago
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IM LATE IM LATE TO THE PARTY BUT I WROTE MONDAYS OUMOTA ONESHOT
Prompt was Hunger Games AU
"This isn't fair, this isn't fucking fair!" His... opponent yelled, voice raspy and strained. Opponent? No, that's not the right word. Kaito was more of a neighbor, an acquaintance, an ally... a friend, maybe? Kokichi could never settle on a title, even after these few days in the arena. He watched as Kaito continued to yell, despite them both knowing that his words fell upon thousands of tone-deaf ears. "We did what you guys wanted! We survived together!"
"Kaito..." He muttered, voice unwavering.
"You can't just take back that rule, you sadistic assholes!" His voice cracked, his pain showing through a well broken wall of confidence and positivity.
"Kaito, shut up." Kokichi said, voice clearer and clearly annoyed.
The taller's eyes broke away from the hopeless heavens and shot daggers at Kokichi. "Don't you tell me to shut up! Aren't you pissed!? Aren't you gonna fight back!?"
Check my ao3 post for the rest!!!
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silicon-tmblr · 1 year ago
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Kokichi ??? Protag + Kaito Supreme Leader Talentswap
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So we have a pretty clear lead going on in the poll right now. I'd be surprised if another choice manages to surpass this one, but if one does I'll get to that one next!
I'll start by covering my notes for the overall explanation, Ch. 1, and Ch. 2 of this concept; I thought I'd be able to do it all in one go but it's getting really long (both in word length, and in the amount of time I've spent putting this together!)
Let's get into it!
Preamble:
So Kaito has pretty insane influence over the whole DRV3 group (except Kokichi). I mean, after viewing the Chapter 3 Flashback Light, all it takes is for Kaito to say he doubts it for everyone else in the group to disbelieve it as well (...except Kokichi, because of course he doesn't care what Kaito thinks). Same with Kaito swaying everyone to use the first Flashback Light in Chapter 2. All in all... he's honestly pretty terrifying to me. And that's when he's supposed to be your ally! So with this in mind, I started thinking of a talentswap where Kaito takes on an antagonistic role as the Ultimate Supreme Leader!
In other words, the core concept behind this talentswap is: Kaito as Supreme Leader. Spoiler alert: he's terrifying
Now at the start of brainstorming this story concept, I actually did mention how "we can't ever have Kokichi as a protagonist. That just doesn't work, he's not protagonist material. It's the kinda lame thing Kokichi fans who like him too much do" and well guess what I am now
Jokes aside, this is probably the one concept where I could see a Kokichi protag working, since we'd need someone capable of standing up against Kaito to be our protagonist. The next best candidate is Kaede, I'd say, but she's had her chances (I came up with the Kaede Assassin protag talentswap before this one, too). Plus, Kokichi's talent (or rather, lack of known talent) makes him particularly vulnerable and forces him to rely more on others than he'd do otherwise, allowing him to be more protagonist-like, so to speak.
And before we get into things... I, completely on accident, set up this talentswap to be very self-indulgent. By that I mean I came up with this talentswap with my sibling Sebec and I started assigning talents and roles excitedly until Sebec pointed out "hey. Doesn't this basically set up your favourite ship?" and the realization led me to scream in agony for 30 minutes
So, without further ado...
Concept: Prologue + Ch. 1
Obviously we have the usual: wake up in a locker, meet everyone, oh my god killing game
Where things really begin to diverge is when Kaede starts trying to take charge.
In canon, during his free time events with Kaede, Kaito actually mentions that he would've started leading the group himself if Kaede hadn't beaten him to it. While she's alive, he's nice enough to not obstruct Kaede's efforts at least (although his peers bash him the whole time for seeming lazy for it)
In this talentswap, Kaito is not nearly as nice. Evidently, an Ultimate Supreme Leader with his personality wouldn't want to be shown up by any of his peers. So from here, we have a split in the group as they become divided into two; like a more extreme, exciting, and prolonged version of canon's Chapter 3.
Our two teams are as follows:
Kaito Momota, the Ultimate Supreme Leader
Maki Harukawa, the Ultimate Detective
Shuichi Saihara, the Ultimate Cosplayer?
Himiko Yumeno, the Ultimate Tennis Pro
Tsumugi Shirogane, the Ultimate (Makeup) Artist
Miu Iruma, the Ultimate Magician
Ryoma Hoshi, the Ultimate Anthropologist
Korekiyo Shinguji, the Ultimate Entomologist
Kirumi Tojo, the Ultimate Aikido Master
Gonta Gokuhara, the Ultimate Prisoner
and...
Kaede Akamatsu, the Ultimate Adventurer
Kokichi Oma, the Ultimate ???
Keebo, the Ultimate Inventor (still a robot, as I tend to do with my talentswaps)
Tenko Chabashira, the Ultimate Survivor
Rantaro Amami, the Ultimate Child Caregiver
Angie Yonaga, the Ultimate Maid
Turf wars!! Woohoo!!! So obviously, with Chapter 1 comes the First Blood Perk. And Kaito Momota does not like the First Blood Perk. Kaito Momota wants an exciting killing game, with an exciting class trial. Thus, he decided to cause problems on purpose.
That's right! Kaito Momota engineered the first case by targeting the Ultimate Prisoner, Gonta Gokuhara. But he can't just kill Gonta because then he'd miss the rest of the killing game! Here's where the content warning comes in; do be careful reading the next two passages (please).
Unfortunately, Mister Gokuhara is very unaware of his own strength. As in, he is prone to manslaughter level unaware. He was raised by prison family! Sometimes they went away, but they always came back... (kill me)
Kaito, being a benevolent Supreme Leader who spreads the truth, took it upon himself to inform Gonta that he was a danger to society. And with this knowledge, Gonta took his life into his own hands; thus bypassing the First Blood Perk.
(I think??? this is dark humour??? god I feel like a sadist right now)
In the first class trial, Kaito insinuates that the culprit must be someone who wants the whole group dead, hence they didn't take the First Blood Perk. This leads Maki to point the direction of doubt towards Tenko, the Ultimate Survivor. Unlike canon's Rantaro, Survivor Tenko had full knowledge of what being the Ultimate Survivor meant. Alongside that, she shared that knowledge with the group. Maki reasons that the Ultimate Survivor doesn't just want to escape the killing game; rather, they play the game to win.
So from there Kokichi and co. have to fight back and reveal the truth, etc. Though I don't have details brainstormed for this segment, I would like to throw in that Kokichi's class trial gameplay would feature a lie detection mechanic; ironically, this would replace V3's gameplay element of lying, meaning Kokichi doesn't end up lying in class trials. Fun, huh?
I envisioned that you'd be prompted to pick out a statement as a lie out of a section of the trial's transcript, so to speak, but could pick many of the statements with only one being correct. Other statements would send you down winding branching paths, with some leading back to the correct path after detecting enough lies, and some being dead ends which might give a clue to the right answer. Kind of like extreme versions of the back routes.
On to Chapter 2!
After the first class trial, Kokichi heads out for a walk in the courtyard at night, as he is wont to do. For some reason he's really restless at night. Never really feels like sleeping.
Now, what Kokichi doesn't know is that someone's watching him!! That someone is on the second floor of the academy, and they are an excellent sniper. This would be the Ultimate Assassin, Shuichi Saihara, who used his skill in disguise to claim the title of Ultimate Cosplayer. Mister Saihara has been put up to eliminating Kokichi by none other than Kaito Momota. Our assassin friend figures he can just put a few bullets through Kokichi and call it a day.
So he shoots him once.
Kokichi seems rather resilient, though, and isn't knocked down.
So Shuichi shoots him again. And again. He shoots Kokichi through the head. He has to be dead now, he's even fallen onto the ground.
So Shuichi stops shooting and leaves to retrieve Kokichi's body, hoping he can hide it to avoid a class trial.
...Kokichi is not dead.
Mostly because he was never alive to begin with.
When Shuichi stops shooting him, Kokichi drags himself to the dorms and knocks on the Ultimate Inventor, Keebo's, door.
And y'know what Keebo says to him?
"... Y-you... are not human."
"Yeah, I kinda noticed."
Kokichi Oma is actually the Ultimate Robot, so realistic that he could pass for human. And Keebo finds that not only has he sustained heavy damage from being shot a couple dozen times, he is also low on battery. It's a good thing he figured out he was a robot before he ran out of power.
Apparently that's the most notable event of Chapter 2. I wrote in my notes that Rantaro was killed, but I didn't specify by whom; just know that it's someone on Kaito's side.
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