#I just love Thomas barrow
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kingly-genderfluid · 2 years ago
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Hello.
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flowersandfashion · 2 months ago
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sorry let me rant about downton abbey 10 years later
Thomas's conversion therapy plot pisses me off so much. firstly, it's incredibly out of character. he never wanted to change to conform to society, he wanted the world to change to accomodate him. the man who said "it's not against the law to hope is it" and "I'm not foul, Mr Carson, I'm not like you, but I'm not foul" would NEVER
secondly, from a storytelling perspective, the only 'problem' is that he used infected needles. did we forget that Thomas was a sergeant in the RAMC? he knows how to sterilise needles and how to recognise and treat infection. this also shifts the blame to Thomas himself for getting sick and implies that the conversion therapy itself is harmless (Dr Clarkson says it's just saline solution)
thirdly, it's not historically accurate. I'm not an expert but conversion therapy was not at all common in the 1920s, even Sigmund Freud was against it. hormone therapy and chemical castration were barely developing let alone available to the public (I can't imagine what else the 'treatment' was supposed to be). the only practices that I can find evidence of were psychoanalysis and electric shock therapy
Thomas also mentions that he did electric shock treatment - if you really want to make a point about homophobia in the 1920s (and make Thomas suffer as much as possible), show that instead. watching him be literally tortured for his sexuality would have been far more impactful than him just... looking sweaty for a few episodes
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snowfallnight · 8 months ago
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sidneycarter · 9 months ago
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love the idea that post The Situation thomas is just increasingly obtuse when it comes to jimmy's feelings.
so when one day mrs hughes mentions in passing at how much easier it is to handle james now he's settled down, thomas is incredibly confused. and a little bit heartbroken too of course.
it gets even stranger when on valentine's day alfred sulkily asks jimmy how many cards he's sent that year and jimmy merely shrugs and smirks. mrs patmore chastises them for gossiping and announces that surely, jimmy's only got one to be sending.
then one night, most of the staff are enjoying a rare night off in the pub. as usual, a host of pretty girls surround jimmy, and one particularly brave one asks jimmy if he's got any plans on one of his half days. jimmy throws her a cheeky wink and says "sorry, darling, but i'm spoken for."
thomas starts feeling really rather hurt. he's known all along that this would happen eventually - that jimmy would eventually move on and find a nice village lass, but it still stings to hear it. somehow, it hurts even more knowing that clearly jimmy has fallen for someone but he hasn't even told thomas.
thomas puts on a brave face and elbows daisy in the side. "d'ya hear that? jimmy's kept that quiet 'asn't he?"
daisy looks at him with a frown and cocks her head to the side. "well, not really--" but before she can say anything else she's swept up into the rowdy conversation of the table.
a few weeks later, thomas and jimmy are alone in the servants hall, with thomas reading the paper in his rocking chair and jimmy tapping out melodies on the piano. the tune he's playing is sweet and gentle, and thomas finds himself swaying his head along. as the song draws to a close, a gentle round of applause sounds from the doorway.
baxter stands smiling. "let me call you sweetheart is one of my favourites. it was beautiful, jimmy."
jimmy blushes prettily and stands, closing the piano lid. "thank you, mrs baxter. good night."
after he's gone from the room, baxter enters to fill herself a glass of water. she smiles fondly at thomas. "he's so smitten you know. head over heels." she rolls her eyes affectionately.
it takes months until thomas finally figures out the truth of what's going on. well, to say he figures it out is somewhat generous.
he's in the servants hall again, this time feeling a little despondent with a cup of tea. jimmy had gone to the pictures with alfred of all people, their friendship seemingly improved since jimmy's given up on chasing ivy's skirt. thomas is resolutely not waiting up to make sure jimmy gets home safe. anna is the only other person still up, and she sits opposite thomas stitching one of lady mary's hemlines in companionable silence.
thomas dwells on his own thoughts for a while, until anna rests her sewing on the table and fixes him with a worried look. "are you quite alright, mr barrow?"
"hm? oh, yes anna, i'm very well thank you." he takes a sip of his tea to hide his moue.
anna looks unconvinced. "thomas," she says seriously, "is it-- have you and jimmy had a falling out?"
that genuinely surprises thomas. for all his worry and sadness over jimmy's as yet unknown love interest, they'd never fallen out. "no, no, of course not. he's just busy, that's all, which is to be expected now he's, you know," thomas waves his cup vaguely in the air, "courting the mystery lady."
anna chokes on a laugh. "the mystery lady?"
"yes. he's-- he's courting someone, isn't he? everyone keeps saying that he's... or suggesting that he's taken with someone." Thomas adds somewhat bitterly, "seems quite serious if you ask me. not that he's told me anything about it of course."
anna stops giggling and looks at him oddly. "thomas you-- you can't mean--"
"-- do you know who she is, anna?" thomas interrupts a little desperately. he's becoming tired of it all and he just wants to know-- how bad it is, for how long he's going to have to tend to his broken heart.
"thomas. thomas, jimmy's sweetheart is-- well, it's you."
"me?" thomas has a brief, sickening memory of his feelings before, and how miss o'brien toyed with them so badly. but he knows in his gut, that anna would never, and could never do that. he knows she's being honest, as confusing and terrifying as the statement may be.
"yes." anna smiles. "he's like a little puppy when he's with you. surely you've noticed? he gazes at you with stars in his eyes. he wants to do everything you do, and it seems like every other conversation is all about what you've been telling him this week. he only ever plays love songs on the piano when you're in the room. he laughs at all your jokes and he's not even glanced in the direction of a girl since last year." anna shakes her head. "i thought you knew and were just letting him get used to it."
"no i didn't -- i didn't know, i thought," thomas can feel himself blushing, "i don't know what i thought."
anna stands with a stifled yawn. "you make each other very happy. if you really didn't know, i think you ought to talk to him. good night, mr barrow."
"good night anna. and thank you."
thomas is left in the still and quiet of the room, watching the steam spiral up from his cup. a private and hopeful smile spreads across his face. yes, he thinks, nodding his head, perhaps we should talk.
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papa-evershed · 1 year ago
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ROBERT JAMES-COLLIER as THOMAS BARROW Downton Abbey (2019)
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kaaaaamii · 8 months ago
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i love thomas. this man is my life.
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madebyteenagefury · 1 year ago
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ask anyone who knows me and knows the downton abbey lore (so like, my parents) and they'll tell you i am an absolute thomas barrow apologist, it has been something we've disagreed over plenty of times, idk i just love him. he is one conniving son of a bitch but hes still more than that, he got his mf redemption arc and he deserved it. i usually only rewatch the films, and the last few seasons of the show, due to this however, i often forget just how bitchy he was, like how steve harrington is a fan favorite but because of that i forget the extent of his dick behavior in s1 (also i just never watch that season)
the thing i used to hate most that thomas (and tbf obrien) did was continuously try to sack bates, succeeding at one point, and just overall being a complete ass towards him but i completely didnt remember how he led daisy on just to kick william in the gut FUCK him for that. one of my fav moments is actually when he dances with daisy while william plays piano, because despite how different they all are and the negative feelings between him, obrien and literally everyone else they all laugh and have a good time for a moment and its sweet, but mf knows daisy has this little crush on him and leads her on despite the fact that he just doesnt even like her normally, hes literally gay. disregarding the probability that she will be hurt (i mean not that he cared at the time) just to fuck with william and for what??
one of the reasons i dont completely hate obrien and thomas in the earlier seasons is because i feel like that most of their actions have an explanation besides "just because". mostly they arent being complete jerks just to Be Jerks (not that it makes their actions and behavior any more acceptable, and ofc they say rude things a lot just because but here im talking about their scheming and various ploys) but this, i literally dont see any more reason besides fuck with william and its not just william who faces consequences because of it and when bates shoved him up against the wall to give him a mind to shut the fuck up i was like "yesss tell that bastard"
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queenmelancholy · 8 months ago
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What if…?
If Jimmy played the piano, Thomas would play the cello.
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ball-of-butter · 2 years ago
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elara watching maven fall in love with two red people he could never have knowing she should stop him but won’t because it’s his canon event
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barris-ftw · 1 year ago
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Little recommendation/spoiler-feee discussion of a fic I had marked for later for months, finally read it - it’s great.
(I had nothing to do with writing it, just wanted to share it)
Summary - Family has never mattered much to Thomas. Even so, when his estranged sister dies in childbirth and a helpful neighbor brings the baby to Downton, he resolves to look after her until she can be placed in a more suitable home - which is all anyone can ask of him, isn't it?
Word count is 36k
No romantic ship - while I enjoy the blessed break from romance fics now and then, I’ve got to say this premise lends itself pretty well to Branrow tbh (There’s a couple scenes which might show you why)
Mostly I love the mixture of viewpoints and how they’ve involved lots of characters, I think. I liked how you could sus out what Thomas is thinking from the conversations/thoughts in points of view other than just his own.
Also Anna’s just great in this, love her. I don’t see mant fics which focus a little more on a budding friendship between Anna and Thomas, and this fic does that perfectly.
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mirrorofliterature · 2 years ago
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stocked my queue for a week.... granted it is 50/50 thomas/edward posts which 0.01% of my followers are interested in, but I will rope you into my thomas barrow rarepair and make you emotional <3
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belovedrival · 1 month ago
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Barrow’s whole vibe here feels like a wayward son who’s finally had success away from home, but he still wants to impress his father.
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Rob James-Collier & Jim Carter as Thomas Barrow & Charles Carson in Downton Abbey | s2ep3
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sxnyarostova · 1 year ago
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updated!!! this is the thomas chapter :)
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papa-evershed · 2 years ago
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Thomas Barrow, Downton Abbey S06EP04
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angelswing236 · 3 months ago
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"Let's try this."
Fictober 24 challenge
Fandom: Downton Abbey
Fanfiction
‘Nanny Archer, you said there’s a problem with Master George,’ Thomas said, trying to keep his worry under control. The maid the nanny had sent to find him hadn’t been able to fill in any of the blanks.
‘Oh, Mr Barrow, thank goodness. I didn’t want to send for Lady Mary or Mr Branson. Not without trying everything first. You were the only person I could think of who might be able to help,’ the nanny said, clearly more exasperated than worried.
‘Help with what?’ Thomas scanned the room anxiously seeing no sign of the boy. ‘Where is Master George?’
‘He’s under his bed.’
Thomas did a double take, not quite sure he’d heard her right. ‘Under his bed?’
‘The little scamp won’t come out,’ Nanny Archer said, irritably. ‘I’ve tried everything I can think of, but he simply refuses to budge. He hasn’t even come out for his lunch.’
‘Do you know why he’s under there?’ Thomas asked, pursing his lips.
‘I've no idea.’
‘Right. Let’s try this,’ Thomas said, swiping the apple sitting on the table with Master George’s untouched lunch.
Wandering over to the child’s bed, he slid down the wall to sit on the floor. He pulled his penknife from his pocket and began to peel the apple.
‘Hello, Master George. It’s Barrow,’ he said, concentrating on peeling the skin in one long, curly strip.
There was silence for a moment and then a small voice replied, ‘Hello, Barrow.’
‘How are things? Nanny says you’ve been under that bed for a while. Are you quite comfy there?’
‘No. It’s made me sneeze a bit.’
‘Dusty, is it? I’ll have to tell Mrs Hughes to tell the maids to give it a good, old clean. A man can’t have a dusty den, can he?’
There was silence again, so Thomas finished peeling the apple, coiling the long strip onto the floor beside him.
‘You’ve missed lunch. You must be hungry. Would you like to share my apple?’
‘Yes, please.’
Thomas sliced off a piece of apple and held it out towards the bed. A little hand snaked out from underneath it and took the slice, disappearing back into the dark.
Slicing another piece, Thomas popped it into his mouth. ‘Oh, that’s a nice apple, isn’t it? Nice and juicy. I like them like that, don’t you?’
‘Yes.’
‘Would you like another slice?’
‘Yes, please.’
Thomas held out a second slice, pleased to see the little hand flash out and take it again.
‘Now, I’m all for a man having his own private space where he can think about things, Master George, but if you don’t mind me asking, what made you retreat to your den?’
For a moment, the boy said nothing, and Thomas began to wonder if he’d overplayed his hand. Resisting the urge to fill the silence, he cut another piece of apple and held it out.
George took the slice and then said in a quiet voice, ‘Donk said Isis has gone to heaven, so I won’t ever see her again.’
Thomas pressed his lips together. Now they were getting to the heart of it. ‘Yes, that’s right. She has gone to heaven.’
‘Why? Why couldn’t she stay here?’
‘She was very poorly, Master George. I expect she didn’t want to leave you, but sometimes it can’t be helped.’
Silence reigned again and Thomas held out another slice of apple. George took it and munched it before speaking again.
‘Mummy says Daddy is in heaven.’
Thomas paused for a moment in slicing the apple, his heart going out to the boy. ‘Yes, he is.’
‘And Sybbie’s mummy is in heaven, too.’
Sorrow twisted in Thomas’ gut for a moment. ‘Yes, Lady Sybil is there, too.’
‘So, they’re all there together?’
‘Yes. I expect your daddy and your Auntie Sybil are taking Isis for a good, long walk, just the kind she likes.’
‘But if they’re all there together, can’t we go and visit them?’ the child asked, plaintively. ‘Like we go and visit Granny Isobel?’
Thomas thought for a moment, slowly cutting another slice of apple and handing it over.
‘You can’t visit them, Master George. Heaven is a lovely place, but you can only go there once and then when you get there, you can’t come back.’
‘Why not? Aren’t there any cars in heaven?’
‘No, there aren’t.’
‘That’s why I’ve never met my daddy? Because I wouldn’t be able to come back home?’
‘Yes,’ Thomas said, gently.
‘I don’t think I’d like not being able to come home.’
‘No.’
‘Is anybody else going to go to heaven, Barrow?’
‘We’ll all go at some point, Master George, but not for a long while, I hope,’ Thomas replied, hoping that would be enough for the boy.
‘Hmm.’
All was quiet as George considered that.
‘May I have another slice of apple, please, Barrow?’
‘Of course, you can. Although, between us, Mrs Patmore has an apple cake downstairs that’s even tastier. That’s if you’re ready to come out of your den.’
‘Apple cake?’
‘It looks delicious.’
George scrambled out from underneath the bed, blinking in the light. ‘Do you think she’ll let me have a slice?’
‘I think if I have a word with her, she will.’
The child grinned as Thomas stood up.
‘Master George and I are going to the kitchen on important business, Nanny,’ Thomas announced, the boy’s hand tucked in his.
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elpislady · 9 months ago
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This is the least he deserves at this point. Let him be happy with husband, let them be handsome, clever and rich together!
you know, at this point I’m just asking one thing of the new downton movie, and that is to see Thomas be a rich gay in America and have him throwing gatsby-like parties and just be a bitch to everyone because he can and because he deserves to be a little (a lot) mean about finally getting a good life
special points if he manages to give Carson a heart attack
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