#I dont use terms like pro ship or anti or anti anti or whatever

[cookie-dough-writes]

I was never really around for old fandom culture but Oh my god I feel like we need to bring some of that attitude back. Bring back the word squick, I BEG. Some times in life people indulge in questionable stuff which might make you yourself uncomfortable, that's great, it's good to know what you don't like, but some times you just have to move on. You don't need to send a paragraph to someone explainging ummm their [harmless] take was totally wrong or that they're an evil person for making something a bit questionable.

It's good practice to breathe and move on. You need to pick your battles. Telling someone to kill themself over a POST ONLINE, no matter how dodgy, just is not constructive and rarely blows off steam. Just breathe, and move on.

[pierced-princess]

Ooc: Whoever was the dumbass that sent a ask saying “proship means you font harass meh meh meh lalala” or whatever, i’m not doing that? Dni goes both ways, bro. Proship doesnt interact w/ me, i dont interact w/ proship.

Unless you’re going out of your way to interact with someone who has proshippers dni written on their blog, i think *you’re* the one who’s harassing me. Ig its in the name, right? Pro-ship, pro-harassment.

I’m not gonna waste my time explaining to people like that why i’m so anti-proship. Not anti-ship, anti-proship. Im anti-comship, i’m anti-darkship, whatever chronically online terms they use.

Also the whole “you can just separate fiction with reality” no shit sherlock. I’m literally running TWO class of 09 blogs. I can separate fiction with reality, thats not a problem with me bro. Whats my problem is that children/teens can be easily groomed into a proship community. And that adults involve minors in like almost every ship or whatever.

You can go have your abusive/toxic ship just dont involve kids with it man.

All your argument points are stupid, i’ve heard it all bro, i’m literally an ex-proshipper 😐

In conclusion, proship dni, i dont interact with your community at all. You shouldn’t interact with me unless you have an actual genuine question.

[dirksawesomesprites]

Sorry for that one comment I sent you. I just wanted my requests done, and didn't want to be blocked for being a proshipper. If you want a definition of proshipper I'll give it to you.

Proshipper: Pro is a prefix, not short gor problematic. That's wordplay.Someone who is for shipping, regardless of ship; anti-anti. Can sometimes correspond with anti-censorship, pro-fiction, or anti-harassment. This term has sometimes been twisted by antis via wordplay as a way to harrass proshippers for what they ship because they deem it problematic.

Just finish my requests and be done with it, okay? Even the Geno sprite.

i dont harass proshippers, i leave them alone because they probably get enough hate as it is. i just block them so i dont have to deal with them.

the pro in proship means support, not problematic. i know that. it is pro-any ships. including stuff like incest or pedophilla. which is why i dont like to interact with them. if they arnt hurting anyone or being weird about it? i dont care.

ive been acused of being a proshipper enough to know the hate they get bombarded with, and im not going to encourage people to do the same to others. ive been harassed enough in my life and i dont want others to experiance that aswell. im not saying go harass shitsolkat or the favship blog whatever their name was. but i dont support them.

proshippers can do what they want, i dont care, aslong as it is not harmful or they are proclaiming that incest and pedophilla is ok.

i understand that most proshippers indulge in that to cope with truama or maybe other issues that do not concern me. but other times it could be a mask to protect them from being seen as an actual pedo or someone who indulges in real incest. i dont care if its of fictional characters, it dosnt effect me? but when its real people like eddsworld for example, that effects actual people. which isnt cool.

i dont like incest, pedophilla, whatever proshippers indulge in. but im not going to support it. ive made it clear i dont like them. but im not going to harass them. nor will i encourage my following to do so either.

listen i dont care what you do behind close doors, you or any other person. but when youre public about it dont expect people to be accepting, especially if you identify as something people dont agree with, like a proshipper. i honestly dont give a shit. i just dont want it on my dash.

i hope you guys can read this and understand. i know proship does not stand for problematic ship. im pretty well educated believe it or not, i just dont like to talk about stuff like this unless necessary like now, because my frequent typos and not the best grammer makes me look worse. but i do know what im talking about. im not trying to flex or something but as someone who has had college level academic scores since middle school and and know most shit adults dont i think i have a place here to talk.

again im not trying to "flex" my knowlage, just trying to show people im not an idoit and why i feel like i know enough to speak on this matter. i know what the pro prefix means. its the same pro used in things like prolife procensoreship whatever.

sorry for this long post but i need to clear things up

i am not a proshipper. thank you very much roxy and tree eridan for telling people so. /sarc

i do not hate proshippers. you can interact with my posts, but just know im not on your side. i will just ignore or block you.

and to my followers? dont harass proshippers, or any people deemed "problematic" if i see anyone who follows or interacts with me doing so you will be blocked. i will not let anyone who does that shit interact with me. i have dealt with harassment, second hand and first hand enough in my life and i will NOT let anyone else experiance what i did at the hands of others hatefull actions and words. even if you dont agree with them. just leave them alone.

you can bring awareness to someones actions, but do not harass them. it wont fix anything.

again i apologize for this essay post. but this is a sensitive topic and felt i needed to talk about it

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[gayestcowboy]

Whats a proshipper?

oh boy. apologies upfront for the super long answer. i havent seen a lot of proshippers on tumblr so idk how different it is on here than on twitter where i’ve mainly seen em, but basically the proshipper ideology is that you should be able to depict whatever you want in fiction because it’s not real. which can sound good in theory until you start seeing twitter artists use it as an excuse to draw porn of characters that are minors. i think the full phrase ive seen around is something like “pro-shipping, anti-harassment” which is the sentiment that you should be able to ship whatever you want without harassment, which sounds fine until you get people openly posting their adult x minor porn on the internet for all to see. which is illegal. and nasty. and genuinely harmful, and generally seen as such by a majority of people, whether they are in fandom or not. and from what ive seen on twitter, proshipping has morphed into a group of people who either openly create and support pedophilia/incest or similar shit, or at least dont have a problem with other people doing it. the opposite term is “anti” which i have mixed feelings about, because on one hand i AM anti-pedo, anti-incest, etc. but on the other hand a lot of “antis” are kind of nasty as well in terms of being too trigger-happy to doxx someone. i dont really call myself an anti because im a full time college student and im too busy to care about fandom drama past a certain extent, but i dont care if my friends or mutuals do. but i dont like proshippers and i actively avoid them because i think they’re shit.

the main argument that a lot of proshippers use is that fiction doesn’t affect reality. if u know anything about anything u should probably be able to figure out that fiction does, in fact, affect reality, and theres quite a fascinating and nuanced relationship between them. that doesn’t mean you cant include “problematic” topics in fiction, in fact i think it’s necessary, but it sure does mean that you shouldn’t openly glorify pedophilia or whatever. theres a difference between writing about something in a way that condemns it, writing about something in a way that allows the reader to draw their own conclusions, and writing about something in a way that allows people to think “hey, this illegal and nasty thing must actually be ok”. hannibal is one of my favourite shows but i dont think it has to be stated that it’s generally a bad idea to kill and eat people, etc etc. there’s a lot to be said about the relationship between fiction and real life, and it’s super interesting, but i wont go into it because there are a lot of people that have said it better than i can.

so sorry for the super long answer LMAO but i hope i articulated my thoughts clearly enough. if anyone has anything else to add then please go ahead.

[devilith]

im gonna be so fucking honest here (and maybe risk annoying some people while im at it) but the terms "comshipper" and "darkshipper" and "lightshipper" and "safeshipper" and whatever other shipping microlabels are out there are pointless and unnecessary too

like theyre all just ships. ig i dont understand why the actual ship name or saying "i ship character x character" isnt already enough? i dont know why some people insist on using convoluted, borderline-incomprehensible microlabels to categorize different kinds of ships when its completely unnecessary. imho, all it does is make things even more muddy and confusing than they already are

im pro-fic and i still cant tell you what the difference between "comship" and "darkship" is. every time someone has tried to explain the difference, theyve givien nothingburger definitions and most of the time it just makes them both sound like the same fucking thing. i have NEVER gotten an actual answer that makes sense or justifies these labels existing. like theyre just toxic ships? okay? cool, who cares?

like does the ship name itself or just "i ship these characters" not already tell you whether the ship is toxic or complex or dark or whatever? why the pointless extra labels that do nothing but cause more questions and incite harrassment from antis who decide that "these microlabels like comshipper and darkshipper mean proships!" like im sorry but its so dumb to me

is it a western/american fandom thing? cuz i feel like i dont see this in se and sea fandom spaces

it’s ok to just call yourself a comshipper, i don’t see the point of making a whole new word..

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[ddejavvu]

This anon.

Pro-ship is a term that is used for people inclusive and judgment-free towards your ship even if they dont like it themself for whatever reason, they believe a person is valid and still a person no matter the fictional ship. Pro-ship and even neutrals will block what ship they don't like and don't agree with such dynamics.

Neutrals as well shouldn't harrass said person because of their ship but instead simply block- not report unless its deemed appropriate by all means. - neutrals I personally know, at least. Neutrals arent really verbal about these things and that's completely understandable so I could only go by my and mutual stances by friends.

I agree ! I'm the same way which is why I stay away from the terms out of anon because people have a strict ideology of them and it isnt always correct. I recently commented on something of a anti-ship post that spread the wrong definition of pro-ship by saying it's a "pedophilia likers" and simply answered the questions asking what it was by what I told you, but only the pro-ship, and got myself blocked by the curator, which is all fair but not to the people being misinformed.

Again though, I doubt I have all the information for much more questions but if you have any, I'd love to answer ♡

i definitely have been blocking lately 😭 yeah misinformation is very harmful to communities like that but sometimes people just don't want to listen. they'll hear what they want and unfortunately sometimes that's impossible to change </3 i think groups like that often come under fire from people completely excluded from fandom spaces altogether as well, which makes things tough. like the furry community's hate does not come nearly as much from other fandoms or structured communities as it does from tiktok teenagers, young kids given internet access too early, or older people who are fed up with their kid having their own opinions. sometimes when the rest of the world stumbles upon a fandom bad shit happens

[liquidstar]

hi i saw your post bout pro ship going around and Im?? I mean you deleted it so I guess that means u changed ur mind (i also read ur other asks so I know ur not One of Those)

i just find it so weird that pro ship is associated with pedophilia bc like..I always thought it meant "idc if u ship stucky or stony go ship whatever u want"! but now this whole thing reminds me of steven universe fans making an artist depressed for drawing a character thinner or lighter and bc of that i find myself siding with Pro-ship rather than those... but I just wish people dont think pro ship meant oh! i support incest and lolicon ://

as someone in the spectrum this whole discourse is especially so difficult. i also dont want to get "cancelled" when i say Pro-ship (the one with the meaning i believe in) is good bc I really dont want drama at all, but the term that I thought that should he positive and drama free IS the drama itself. ugh. sorry for the rant.

but anyways that post you deleted about hitting people with car is :/ yikes. it just gives me Toxic Fandom vibes, death threats arent cool no matter who it is. im glad you deleted it! posts similar to that are the reason why I feel like "pro ship" looks less toxic tbh even if I dont have any problematic ships and I dont approve of them either.

sorry if this ask is long! I just type this way when im thinking of a lot of things!

anon.... i deleted the post bc i was sick of getting pedo apologists writing essays in my notes about why jacking off to child porn is actually ok and healthy and getting harassment from them. yeah, surprise surprise, the people who defend cp harass people and only use the "harassment" thing as a way to create a weird strawman character to gain the moral highground. but it was the "pro shippers" who just a few months back harassed a voice actor with images of cp because they said they were uncomfortable with it because of their trauma. clearly though theyre the good guys who want safety in fandom spaces, right anon?

i stand by everything i said 100% and if you cant understand why youre either ignorant or lack critical thinking completely based on the way you just assume that Obviously i must have come around to the "pro ship" way despite its links to pedo apologism. if the fine line between you and someone who jacks off to lolicon hentai is so thin you need to distinguish between it every time you talk about it theres a problem. there is no "good version" of it, its just a foot-in-the-door tactic to make you slowly become more OK with their batshit logic over time. its intentionally designed that way. of-fucking-course people associate "pro-ship" with pedophilic content, you yourself literally had to distinguish between those parts of the "community" and i feel like i need to remind you that the whole "pro-ship" thing came side-by-side with MAPs but was later watered down to seem more friendly and welcoming, to trick people into thinking its just a friendly fandom place.

as if you cant be against harassment or bad faith media criticism without being "pro ship". similarly you can be against pedophilic content w/o being an "anti" and i dont consider myself one bc thats a huge strawman caricature, even you yourself used phrasing in that regard lol, i guess im not "one of those" because im not someone with weird "us-vs-them" groupthink. but that being said im obviously against the community that welcomes people who blindly support cp based on an all-or-nothing mentality and borderline cultlike tactics built into it, ones that youre playing straight into. if you have good intent get the fuck out of there while you still can and start examining yourself more. and get the fuck out of your own head with this fear of being "canceled"

idk which post you read that you took that away that i "changed my mind" but go read these instead instead of projecting what you must think is the "correct opinion" onto me

[weaver-z]

okay um i have a question but please dont hate me for it, i genuinely dont understand. recently you answered an anon ask in which the anon was scared about anti-antis and pro shippers. and i know p*do stuff is bad and v wrong. im just wondering why pro shippers are bad? i thought that just meant its okay to ship characters that are similar in ages (like, shipping zukka or drarry). again i genuinely dont understand and i would like to understand.

Nah, pro-shippers believe that all ships should be posted online, including ones like p*dophilic ships and inc*st ships. People who consider themselves “antis” would be A-ok with Zukka and Drarry, as those are ships between people who are unrelated and are about the same age. 

The term “anti” sometimes gets confused with someone who dislikes a specific ship, though, which is probably where your confusion lies. When the term “anti” gets used in fandom debate, it means “someone who believes that fiction involving minor X adult pairings or inc/st pairings shouldn’t be posted in public online spaces.” 

The term “(name of ship here) anti”  is used for someone who dislikes a single ship for whatever reason, which I think is where the confusion stems from. Examples are people like “Reylo antis” or “Drarry antis” or whatever. But if someone just uses the word “anti” alone, they’re talking about the definition I mentioned earlier.

[kazuhasbunny]

Ok, first off I'm going to clarify that I am in fact not the same anon you were complaining about however I do want to correct your definition of pro-shipper. It definitely does not mean that they ship children with adults, nor is it shorthand for problematic shipper. The term actually came about a few years ago in opposition to anti-shippers, the ones who would harass people for shipping certain things that they didn't like, regardless of if it was problematic or not. In fact in most of these harassment cases the ship in question wasn't problematic at all. This was particularly common among fangirls who shipped certain gay ships within a series and would go around bashing and harassing anyone that shipped things that 'competed' with their ship. I am aware that urban dictionary isn't the most credible of sources but quoting their pro-ship article Pro-shipping is "the practice of not shaming or harassing over fictional ships." To clarify using a very succinct definition from Twitter "a pro-shipper is just the opposite of an anti-shipper. A pro-shipper is someone who doesn't care what other people ship or what characters they stan because pro-shippers know that it's just fiction."

What this means is that pro-shippers don't necessarily support any ship in particular, nor does it mean that they find every ship completely and totally okay, or that it doesn't disgust them or whatever. What it means is that they are of the opinion that no matter what someone thinks about fictional characters, it really doesn't matter all that much because they are fictional. You are allowed to be disgusted by ships. You are allowed to think they are morally wrong or whatever. But at the point at which you are wishing genuine harm upon and sending death threats to actual people because of their opinions on fictional ones there is an issue. You are in charge of and responsible for curating your own online experience. If you dont like a ship for whatever reason, whether you think it's problematic or it's just a ship you don't want to see content for because you don't care for it, great, block the tags for it, maybe block a few blogs if you feel the need and be done with it. In a case like the one that seems to have started this where someone approaches you with content you are uncomfortable with in your asks or whatever, block them if you can, and if you can't either delete and ignore them or respectfully but firmly respond that you do not like, condone, or wish to engage with that content and ask that they leave you alone. Most people will tend to respect a request like that if you don't immediately threaten them and escalate the situation. Pro-shippers are just those who think that the people telling others that they deserve death and "should be shot on sight" in defense of fictional characters are causing way more harm than the ones they are raging at. The moral outrage and performative activism are unnecessary. I don't mean to be disrespectful or hostile, and I do apologize if I came off that way, but I did want to at least make sure that if information is going to be spread, it should at least be accurate. Sincerely, a pro-shipper who is tired of getting death threats just for not caring about how people ship made up characters

im sorry but why are u even on my blog the first place 😕 i will be kindly asking u to leave , i do not want any proshippers on my blog . ever . idc if this is the real explanation or whatever i don’t care please .... leave

[la5t-res0rt]

Hi. Ex-anti here. I can confirm that I do in-fact exist. I am a living, breathing person who once held anti beliefs but no longer does. My best friend is also an ex-anti that many people in the BJ fandom know. I did NOT go from thinking "pedophilia is bad" to "pedophilia is good." In fact, the top post on my BJ blog literally states that "Pedophilia is nasty." Me going from anti to ex-anti meant that I went from dehumanizing people for a ship, to literally not caring what people do with FICTION.

another ask i have been sitting on since my initial postulation about former antis 

first of all i do not love your tone it makes me feel like im going to get annoyed with you 

i first want to preface this with a disclaimer

the quote conspiracy theory unquote that i postulated was in response to the tumblr user lostinthegloss who called antis a cult and a terrorist group which seemed incredibly suspicious and too far into the extreme however the user has since left the scene and now that account posts pictures of monkeys

their behavior read as very performative to me and i took issue with that

anyway back to you

so we are entering an issue of semantics which im shocked hasnt come up yet with me because its something i care about but the issue here is the varying definition of what it means to be an anti

there is the notion of anti beetlebabes which is as it is named means you are against the ship beetlebabes

and then there is the term on its own which is anti

anti shippers is sort of a catch all umbrella term for people that do not support ships that include but are not limited to pedophilic content noncon and beastiality so by taking the stance that you do in fact think pedophilia is nasty then you are in fact an anti congratulations your tote bag is in the mail

i have also been waiting for the right opportunity to address this whole fiction effecting reality thing

look at yourselves and then look at the people around you look at the people you talk to look at your friend look at their friends hell look at me we have literally all been effected by this piece of fiction 

character veil is going up i was exposed to a lot of content very similar to the content i see on tumblr here today and as a result i was put through trauma which included being suicide baited and sexually assaulted which as we all know is all too common as ammunition for anon and not so anon interactions between pro and anti beetlebabe shippers

anyway that fiction effected my reality as it was used to justify what was happening to me and it effected my reality by making me become who i am now an angry badly drawn beetlejuice ok character veil is back down

ignoring or even belittling peoples trauma is pretty dehumanizing too and this is just me but i dont think being called out for pedophilia is necessarily dehumanizing but more not that surprising of a turn of events

tldr youre actually still and anti and fiction effects reality so much more than you think literally would you even be talking to me if you didnt consume beetlejuice content and shape your ideas around the people you met through the media

who would that art of whatever person or their squad be without beetlejuice seriously do they have anything else that they like or care about im not allowed to look at their content anymore thank god

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Into DDLG

A Trump Supporter

A Republican in general

An 'anti anti'/'pro shipping'

An overall a shitty person

A fan of SnK

I’ll add onto this when something else comes to mind

If you're a minor and you decide to follow me, blacklist 'nsfw'

Politics/views:

I’m a socialist, (meaning I think 'radical' things like there shouldn't be any homeless ppl, we deserve free Healthcare, etc)

I'm anti gun and pro gun control

Don't bother me with the 'ace discourse', I WILL block on sight if you bring up that shit to me

'Queer' is a slur and should not be used as an umbrella term for the lgbt+ community; that being said, I believe ppl have the right to self identify as it if they so choose

I’m anti porn industry; it hurts sex workers and is exploitive

I’m anti DD/LG, CG/L, and basically any fetish/kink that romanticizes abuse such as pedophilia/sexual assault/etc, as well as sexualizes disabilities

I'm anti beauty industry and beauty culture. No, that doesnt mean I hate ppl that wear makeup or makeup artists, I just hate the fact that makeup is used to oppress ppl, and I honestly dgaf if wearing winged eyeliner makes someone feel powerful, it still is forced onto ppl and choosing to wear it doesn't change that, so it's not 'powerful' in the slightest

I’m pro trans rights and trans women being in “female only” spaces, I believe they belong more than my afab nonbinary ass

I believe feminism should be women focused

I’m pro choice 

Black Lives Matter is a group I support

Trans ppl don't need dysphoria

Cisphobia isn’t real, heterophobia isn’t real, reverse racism isn’t real

Cultural appropriation is racism

Non black people have no right to wear dreads, cornrows, etc

Cis people need to be SGA to be bi

All cultures are anti black and must unlearn it (coming from a non black PoC who is unlearning their anti black racism)

I believe white people are naturally racist because we are raised in a racist society and they benefit from the oppression PoC face, just like I believe cis people are naturally transphobic, straight people are naturally homophobic, etc

White washing is racism

I'm anti cops, and yes, that means your cousin, uncle, whatever, too

[liquidstar]

i dont even understand the proship shit anymore bc ive seen people use it to mean "i'm a proshipper bc im okay with incest/pedophilia/ect and consume it bc i can" but then people who use it like "i'm a proshipper bc i don't support bashing people for their innocent/totally normal ships, but this doesn't include the nasty stuff" and at this point idk if anyone who uses the word knows what they're saying lmao

its literally just because they learned no manipulate their language and use this weird fictional idea of an evil group of oppressors and harassers to play victim in a way paints themselves as the logical ones, but literally anyone whos taken a step outside of their echochambers would realize how this isnt the case and pro-ship is pretty much synonymous with pedo apologist, and i know this because as a kid on this site ppl in those echochambers would pull their shit on me, ive seen what its like first hand. i know all their stupid arguments and the motivations behind them, the whole victim act is just a way to garner sympathy and look like the rational ones even thought theres a huge fucking asterisks over all the seemingly rational stuff theyre saying.

and you know what, i dont consider myself an anti, because the concept of an anti is literally just this caricature they created to further perpetuate this us-vs-them group mentality, they dont even realize it but theyre using fiction to affect reality through this strawman character they invented. its all ironic as fuck. antis dont exist, stop calling yourself an anti, youre just a normal person against pedophilia just like any other person who goes outside and talks to people in places outside of greasy fandom shipping spaces. i dont even like fandom and i dont care much for shipping lol

they also like to paint this portrait of "the puritans" or whatever, claiming that clearly these people are against dark subjects in media all together and lack nuance. but after reading all the replies on my post i can safely say that the pro-shipping fandom brainrot people are the ones that can only think in terms of black and white, not the other way around like they claim, and thats why they can only conceptualize of the people who disagree with them as being this image of an extreme puritan that they made up in their heads.

what i mean by that is that literally every one of them thought that by comparing two things i must obviously be saying that they are a 1:1 because theres no room for nuance in their minds, and they jump to conclusions based on that, and on top of that most of them use this weird example of "oh so obviously bideo game cause violence !!!" when i never once stated that, but their mentality is so all-or-nothing that they cant differentiate between different examples of dark subject matter depicted in media.

i love dark subject matter in media, you do too, i see your wonder egg icon, you see my utenaposting, and the reason we're able to consume those things critically is because we understand the differences between types of depictions, we understand nuance and representation and its importance, and we dont shove things into one of two categories. media isnt a monolith and we need to look at things on a case by case basis, but they just refuse to do that, because if One thing is bad then that must mean All things are bad. and they dont wanna even acknowledge the possibility of that so instead they jump to the opposite extreme of No things are bad. its insane mental gymnastics to justify their weird fanfics lmao. at least like, gross anime nerdboy perverts know theyre deplorable, like guys thats your cousin, you both wank off to underanged anime characters but at least they dont pretend to be progressive about it.