#I don't deserve to cry and complain to people and manipulate them into feeling bad for me and telling me it's not my fault
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fragglerockopinions · 6 months ago
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seeking advice and support
what should i do if my support system is suddenly crumbling and I have no one to turn to? i have bpd and cptsd among other things and lately there's been a bunch of shit happening in my friend group that tore the group in half. another friend and I were complaining about feeling isolated and ignored in the group, especially around one person, and we waned to leave, but the toxic isolating person wouldn't let us without spreading lies that we were threatening her.
eventually the situation started to cool down so I sent a message to a neutral friend just stating what I felt as I hadn't actually expressed what I wanted or how I felt, I had just stuck by my other friend's side as they were being harassed. i explained that I didn't want to stop hanging out with everyone, just the toxic person, and that I didn't want to talk with the toxic person unless she apologized for the harm she caused and started to make a genuine change.
that neutral friend passed along that message to the toxic person and I received a very long, very nasty text essentially stating that she wasn't sorry and calling me things like a pick-me, manipulative, attention-seeking, etc., mostly for. mundane things such as... crying a few times at lunch and asking my friend group for a bit of support while going through rough patches.
i immediately shared the message with my best friend who got pissed at the toxic person but then this morning sent a copy-pasted text to the 4 of us most involved in it telling us he wasn't taking sides, that everyone's messages were reasonable, and that everyone needs to stop talking about it because it was making it worse.
he told me several times earlier that I'm not a bad person and she was lying, and he said this morning that the message wasn't meant to be an attack, but I still feel a bit hurt and betrayed. i didn't actually do anything; I hate drama and never fought or tried to escalate things. i was done with the situation and just wanted to tell the neutral friend what I felt and that I wanted to maintain a friendship with them.
i just don't know what to do. i went from having a loving, secure friend group of like 7 to now maybe 2 friends. one of them being the one I was defending - who I love to death but isn't great at support - and my best friend who sent that message this morning. i feel like I can't show my emotions or ask if he believes that I'm manipulative because what if that's being manipulative? but I can't hide my emotions because not only is that. incredibly unhealthy but that also might be manipulative. I've been spiraling as a result of what that toxic person said as being abusive and as horrid as my abusers is one of my biggest fears and something I regularly panic about (ableism towards bpd from people doesn't help at all). i don't know how to reach out or if I even can, and I can't just make new friends as I find that extremely difficult and it also takes months or even years for me to be able to trust and open up to someone and get past "polite acquaintance conversation" mode.
please tag as "vulture anon"
Hi vulture,
I'm so sorry about what you've been going through. Especially when you have BPD or CPTSD, needing to cut ties with toxic friends can be especially challenging. It may help to remember that you deserve to have friends that respect and support you, and it's better to have no friends than toxic ones that enable or defend each other for things they're being rightfully called out for. It sounds like the things you communicated were reasonable, and the friend you thought you could confide in was merely an informant to the toxic friend, who responded very poorly.
Honestly this is not a situation you deserve to be in. Not only being around the toxic friend, but the friends who defend them. Your toxic friend can say it wasn't meant as an attack, but if they genuinely meant no harm then they would've understood that their intent doesn't change the impact, and they would've taken accountability for how it affected you anyways. Instead, by saying it wasn't meant as an attack, what they mean is they don't feel like you have the right to be hurt, but you do. Personally, if a friend passed along our conversation to a toxic friend, not caring about how I would be retaliated against, I would cut off both friends, as hard as that is when you struggle with a fear of abandonment. But it's important not to let your fear of abandonment be taken advantage of.
It doesn't sound like you're in the wrong whatsoever here. If you chose to cut off these friends they make you feel like you're making the wrong choice, but at the end of the day, you don't deserve to be around people who mistreat, guilt, and manipulate you.
I hope I could help and please let us know if you need anything.
-Bun
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peppertaemint · 2 years ago
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Thank you for your thoughts about my question concerning why BTS fans seem obsessed with what EXO members are doing even to the point they're complaining about Jin having to go serve yet Kai and Sehun don't and it's so stupid: Jin born in 1992, Kai and Sehun born in 1994. Make it make sense. Those are the only two left to enlist and they're not even 30 yet (global age) Anyway they keep up with EXO stats and unprompted will bring up BTS paved the way and EXO fans are "crying" about it lmao I am so confused because most EXO fans who aren't BTS fans don't give a fuck about what BTS is doing. Most of us are just waiting for a full group comeback, the first in almost 5 yrs lol if Lay is involved, that's even longer since we had an OT9 comeback. I just don't get the obsession they have needing to be concerned with what the "flops" are doing if BTS are so much more than Kpop according to a lot of them. It's so annoying to see the nonsense because even though I used to be a big BTS fan, I can honestly say i truly do not care what they're doing, or winning or anything like that. I don't keep tabs on them. Their success has nothing to do with my favorite groups and the quality of music I have been enjoying from them. BTS can go on to win every award until the end of time, it changes nothing for me so I really don't understand why they feel awards and numbers makes a hill of beans to how music fans enjoy music and why they think it matters to everybody.
Anyway, I also asked about WayV lol Did you skip them purposely or you forgot? 😄
Also is SHINee queer??? Lol
I'm gonna talk about WayV, the rolls royce of NCT, on a separate post (hopefully tomorrow). I think they deserve the spotlight.
SHINee are queer? Did I say that? Must have been a typo.
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Why do army obsess over so-called flops? I think it's about validation. It makes them feel really good to make other groups of people ostensibly feel bad. They're not music fans (the ones you see behaving like this). They're people who are part of a cultish subculture that gains energy and attracts attention through different forms of bullying and manipulation. It will be interesting when someone makes a documentary about this.
Idk I'm a music fan. I listened to 1.2K different artists last year, which is actually low for me! I've been close to 1.5K before. Anyhow, I like to pay attention to different artists and enjoy what they have on offer. In fact I just caught up on Jackson Wang's Magic Man series and that shit is cray. Loving how balls-to-the-wall he went. I just don't think it's at all interesting to focus on streams or accolades. What I care about is how the music, and the performance since we're talking about Kpop here, hits me. In that sense I think it's good to keep up with different artists. What's not good is doing it just for a sense of superiority. That's not contributing to respectful environment in which art thrives. That's capitalistic nonsense that crushes creativity. Hmm, why is that familiar?
Roll on EXO reunion! I want to see what they got.
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willow-salix · 3 years ago
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Gender equality and fairness in fiction!
So, my daughter (20) is in a RP group. Everyone there has either OC's or revamped canon characters from a variety of fandoms.
Someone posted the question yesterday "How does your character deal with rejection?"
The results were disturbing and toxic to say the least, especially considering most of the writers there are female.
"They would be lucky to get away without broken bones."
"My character would hate that and probably pitch a fit."
"How dare they reject her! She's beautiful, they are obviously an idiot. She's gonna tell all her friends that he's an asshole."
"She'd likely have a breakdown and hurt herself."
There were many more, all disturbingly bad.
My kid read them out to me and I was appalled. So I posed the question "how would your character reject someone?"
And the answer were more what I expected.
"They would just tell them straight, they don't like them that way and they need to not ask again."
"They would say that it's their right to not like someone that way and they wouldn't feel guilty about it."
"They would just say no and if they were a baby about it they would laugh at them or smack them."
What the hell is wrong with people?
So their character is allowed to reject someone because they don't like them that way, but their character cant be rejected themselves? The person asking them has to just get over it, but when they are rejected they are allowed to 'pitch a fit' and threaten self harm?
That is NOT on! That is toxic as fuck!
Here's a tip from an old writer with many years experience. Being a dick doesn't make your character edgy and cool, I just makes them a dick.
Thinking they are too good for someone but not allowing the same for others doesn't make your character great, say it with me, IT MAKES THEM A DICK!
Bringing this kind of toxic mentality into fiction is part of the reason that people think it is ok to act that way in real life. And it's not!
People are allowed to say no. They are allowed to not like someone in that way. No one should feel guilty or emotionally manipulated into being with someone. No one should be told that they are a horrible person for saying no to dating someone. No one should be told that they are wrong, have no taste, didn't deserve them anyway, weren't worth wasting they time on, and a million other things that get thrown out every time you see a character in media (any kind) reject or get rejected.
We all know of the toxic trait that is projected onto men of them complaining about the "friend zone". The fact that they think it's ok to only be nice to someone and to do things for them to make them like them and , when they get rejected, to call the other person a bitch and say "I did all that for you and you won't even date me?"
We all know that's wrong. We all know that that is not how it should be at all. But no one ever talks about girls doing the same. No one ever talks about girls that cry and threaten, that stalk their socials and have their friends be nasty to their new girlfriend or anything like that.
Please, please, for the love of all that is good in the world, can we stop with the double standards and just be decent and fair to each other?
I know it's not going to happen in the real world, it's bad enough that it does, it's bad enough that it is a reality that many people deal with, but in the fiction world's can we at least freaking try to portray healthier relationships and interactions?
Our younger generation need all the help they can get to feel good about themselves and to brave this world, let's not make it so they have no escape in fiction either.
Let's just be considerate to everyone.
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eoharu · 3 years ago
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FIRST OF ALL NA HEEDO CONGRATULATIONS MY GIRL YOU DID IT!!!!!!!!! congratulations for achieving your dreams, both win gold medal again as you promised long time ago and also become yurim's rival!
it's devastating that heedo cannot even celebrate it (i really wanna hug her tight seriously my baby doesnt deserve this after all hardship she went through). it's true that her gold medal were stolen, not by yurim but by media whose only care about rating. the way they ask sensitive questions and corner both of them! even dare to say heedo bribed the referee just because she's just some unknown fencer who suddenly rise and rich enough to do bribe; i seriously wanna smack all of them like they're so fuckin RUDE.
but i just want to say that although many hate yurim and i honestly hate her too since the first time she treat heedo like shit, i don't think she's manipulative. she's just immature and selfish. i do think she genuinely believes she was faster and should've be the winner. i think it's a natural reaction to question the referee if she genuinely feel that way, or cry because she is lost unjustly. i don't think she's being manipulative when she answered the win is a bad call because SHE TRULY BELIEVE SHE WAS FASTER. she doesnt put up a show just to corner heedo. from the way i see it, she's just fighting for a win she thinks she deserve it. heedo said there's no other way the fencer doesnt know who is faster, she strongly believe she was faster, she said she FELT it. keyword: FELT. it's not a matter of fact. it's just her feeling. SAME AS YURIM. she strongly believes, all based on her feeling, she was FASTER and by logic she could use same statement as heedo; fencer know who is faster and in that case she believe she was faster and should've be the winner.
and that's why there's a referee. a third person who objectively saw the match from closest range and professionally judge it, not judging by mere feeling. judge said it's na heedo who is faster and thus become the winner. everyone saying yurim has bad sportsmanship for complaining referee's result, and i agree she's so selfish for that, but honestly if you feel wronged won't you complaint too?? and it's a fucking prestige competition, and people strongly believe she will win. she strongly believe too and her complaining was her last straw to hang on that tiny hope of winning and fulfilling those expectations. it's her coping mechanism. because once again the way i see it, yurim still believe she was faster and the way she act isn't simply to make heedo look bad; rather i would say she unintentionally made heedo look bad. the case would be different if she know heedo is faster but she still insist she's faster, her crying in podium then would definitely a playing victim act and her words in press conference were her being manipulative bish. but we don't know if yurim see it herself that heedo is faster, as of now it seems she still think she was faster. so i think, even i don't excuse her shitty behavior, i understand why she act that way. she's so desperate to win, her poverty and her sickening inferiority complex towards heedo make it much worse. she's still young, so many pressure and expectations weighed her down, she's always told by her coach the only thing that keep her worth is her gold medal. it's a very stressful situation for her. so i understand why she behaved that way.
that being sad, i still madly despise her, lmao. i would pity her if she didn't direct all her frustration to heedo, even being so heartless said she stole it from her. lol, she truly forget the fact that referee is most objective and more trustworthy than her own feeling. i'm so disappointed she even deluded herself heedo win because she bribed the judge. how dare she treat heedo that way, after see it herself how hard heedo work for it! i said before she can complain to referee if she feel unfair, but she should've known by doing so she hurt her opponent; not only her feeling but also her integrity & honor. the best she can do after fulfilling her selfish desire is not hurt her opponent personally. i can't believe she said heedo stole the gold medal from her and she's the VICTIM to heedo, who is just accused of bribe minutes ago. it's very upsetting to see that scene. please stop hurting heedo and behave!!!! learn to accept failures!!! learn to respect your opponent and referee!!!!! your desperation doesnt excuse your behavior to act that way!!! stop being so selfish & egoistic!!! i really hope she would think over it carefully next time she's more composed that referee's judgement is more trustworthy than her own feeling and later properly apologize & congratulations na heedo sincerely.
but still i think the main culprit is media. everyone should've been cheering because korea just won gold medal. but yeah our people loves drama more than anything, and media painted the match like a sob story where heedo the spoiled privileged kid stole the gold medal from poor star yurim; totally dismissed both their effort & hard work from the narrative. if only the journalist ask how she practice or her strategy to win instead of ask is she personally know the referee and possible bribery, things would've not gotten so bad. i almost punch my screen once her mom said it by her own mouth that na heedo stole the medal from yurim. it's so heartbreaking to see no one root for heedo even before the match, not even one she shared blood with, and now whole nation despise her; partially thanks to her mom contribution. the moment heedo said should she give up the medal just because everyone want to see yurim win instead of her, my heart shattered. the way her coach never care for her and even think she's just a hindrance to yurim, the way the coach cheered for yurim although he said he rooted for none, the way yurim's uniform is the blue-red one blatantly showing she's the korea's representative and whole nation side by her... heedo literally only has three people rooting for her and one is dead. how sad is that, knowing only three people want her win, she still strive so hard to win only to say she bribe the referee. IM. SO. MAD.
it's so sad to even see she doubt yijin and think he come as reporter to dig more story from her. moment that should've been a triumph for her become moment where she run away all by herself, lost and not knowing what to do or where to go and even doubt people closest to her. the scene where granpas console her and she's helplessly crying... I'm so thankful she has that moment when she see it herself not everyone curse her and there are also other people who root for her, even put faith on korea fencing's bright future on heedo's hand.
i truly want heedo & yurim work together to make that true. for that to happen yurim needs to work on her inferiority complex and learn she has many things heedo doesnt. i hope she feel grateful for all supports she has and heedo doesnt. i hope she stop see heedo only as rich prodigy kid who has it easy and she's the only one who suffer. i truly hope, soon, she will see heedo as rival and respected her. i hope she see how heedo isn't there to ruin her world and take away her achievement & spotlight, but to make her strive harder and enjoy fencing more despite her burden. and i hope to see their match again later, when they play fair & square, sincerely congratulate each other with smile no matter who wins. i hope their relationship evolve as sweet as they were in cyber world!
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free--therapy · 3 years ago
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hii again, thank you so much for answering i might have cried when you said you're proud of me I've never had anyone say that to me and even more so when I'm talking about my faults :'(  you made my day with those words 💗
also i have a few doubts, should i be convincing myself to stand up for myself when something bad happens to me? as of now, i have this mindset where if someone does something bad to me, i accept it without fighting back or arguing because i believe that i deserve it since I've done similar stuff to other people. kinda like if I've done ___ to someone in the past, i should not complain or be sad/angry if it happens to me now
and if I'm ever caught as the third person in a argument between two people, i tend to never share my honest opinions even if they ask because i feel like I'm a hypocrite for sharing supposed "good opinions" since I've had times when I've acted completely opposite of what good behaviour should be.
this is similar to my habit of crying when i get caught in arguments. if i have a fight with anyone, i start crying and give in always to avoid making them feel bad. i go crazy lengths to avoid conflict and tend to people please a lot but that only adds up to my bad opinion about myself since i feel like a liar when i do it. if someone praises me or says good things about me, there are many times when i tell myself "if only they knew what sort of a person i really am"
that thinking process also makes me keep people at a distance because I'm always thinking "they wouldn't love me if they knew I can do such horrible things person sometimes" (said horrible things being lying, stealing $3 from a relative a few times when i was 15, getting jealous and acting selfishly because of it and just random shameful things i did mostly as a teen and not even apologising for these things now that I'm an adult because either the people involved don't know or don't remember it anymore)
if i get close to new people, my mind's like "tell them the things you've done in your past and see if they still stick around" and so it creates this sense of emptiness where i feel like everytime i care for new people, i feel fake....kinda like i don't deserve to love them or be loved by them without sharing everything about my past with them (the funny thing is I've shared this with my sister and she said these "bad things" are things everyone does at some point but we don't need to share it with all people we come across and i find it so hard to believe)
so if I've ever been cruel, manipulative or very selfish in the past; i let other people do it to me now even after noticing it because the voice in my head keeps telling me i don't deserve to stand up for myself and i should just take it as my repentance or something. it's hard to believe that i deserve to be treated right even now. is that a bad belief though? it sounds like "right thing" to me or maybe i have a weird opinion about it lol
Hello Again, Dear Anon!
I'm so glad that I was able to brighten your day. It breaks my heart that no one has told you that though...but I also know exactly what that feels like.
Yes, I think it would be best to stand up for yourself, especially when the other person is saying something that's not true about you. While you heal, you'll start to learn so much about yourself and the type of person you are and where you want to be. Often times we take things personally when people make a comment about us or do something to us because we don't know who we are and think that what they're saying is true when really it's not, or in your case you believe you deserve it (you definitely don't!) When our inner voice is strong, it'll be able to brush off whatever someone else says or does to us because we'll come to realize that what other people do to us is a reflection of them and their inner state. It usually has nothing to do with us. Of course it takes a lot of self-love, self-kindness, self-respect, and self-compassion to reach this state, but there's a lot of empowerment waiting to be unlocked when you start tending to your own needs and learning about yourself and being proud of your own innate worth. The object is to reach a point where you don't care about what other people think about you because you know exactly who you are and no one can tell you any different, no matter how mean they are about it.
It's definitely a tough spot to be in when you're in the middle of an argument like that. I don't think it's a bad thing to be honest with them though, but of course someone is not going to like you for your opinion...but sometimes we have to seem like the bad guy when we're being true to ourselves and our opinions because we can't please everyone. That's how we put ourselves second and end up committing an act of self-betrayal. Again, getting to this point will take a lot of practice, love, kindness, etc.
Let me ask you a question: if you had a friend that did all of those things in their past that you did, would you still be friends with them? Why/why not? Basically what I'm trying to get at is if you can forgive someone else, you can forgive yourself for your past mistakes. They don't define you and a lot of people around you have a lot of past mistakes they're likely ashamed of too, and probably think the same as you do ("If only they knew...") With love (and self-love) comes a lot of forgiveness and this is a very hard skill for many people to learn because a lot of people operate from the ego. If someone judges you based on your past, then that's not a friend worth having.
No hun, just because you treated someone a certain way in the past that you've atoned for now, doesn't mean you deserve to take that kind of behavior from someone else as if it's some sort of karma for your mistakes. That's self-sabotaging behavior and you deserve to be respected just as much as you show respect for someone else. You don't have to take that disrespect from someone—especially since you're able to recognize them even doing it! Don't let yourself be a doormat and let them continue with their behavior. Sometimes these people aren't even aware of what they're doing and it's how they continue to get away with it. It's okay to stick up for yourself because doing so shows that you love yourself and know your worth (which btw you are SO worthy and deserving of respect just as you are, regardless of your past!) Just keep reminding yourself of those things when these sorts of things happen and eventually you'll be able to muster up the courage to speak up for yourself.
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pink-peony-princess · 4 years ago
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Fight for You
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"Why do people do this to themselves?" I shouted to Shawn and Peter over the roar of the crowd as Raul's fist made contact with his apponents cheek- a sickening crack ringing out around the cramped room."It's barbaric!"
"It's actually quite ordered," Peter counted, eyes not leaving the action. "There's more that they can't do than they can."
"I still think it's stupid," I grumbled, before jumping and slapping my hands over my eyes as Raul copped a nasty hit to his chest.
The only reason I'd come to see the fight was to support Raul I'd been friends with the Triplets since we were about 5, having immediately hit it off with them on the first day of preschool. We'd been inseperable since, but I'd always had a soft spot for Raul,we just seemed to get each other- and he was always so protective of me.
In middle school he'd punched Jacob Connor's out (the resident bully) when he'd somehow found out I'd started my period and spread it around the school like wildfire. Raul had been given a 5 day suspension for it, but he'd always maintained that 'it was worth it, the little weasel got what he deserved.'
As we grew we only got closer,we were each other's confidant, the one person who we trusted with all our secrets, or biggest dreams and our deepest fears. That didn't stop us going through the awkward phase where you realise that maybe you like the other person, but are too much of a scaredy-cat to do anything about it.
Everyone could see it, my friends at school, Peter and Shawn, even my parents told me I should do something about it.
"Don't fret, Kara, your boy will be fine," Shawn laughed teasingly looking down at me bring me back to the present. The boys towered over me at 6'2 they were well over a head taller than me.
"How can you say that?He's your brother," I was appalled. They had absolutely no concern for the fact that their brother, their triplet no less was being pummelled like a car at a junk yard.
"Because," Shawn continued. "It might not look like it, but Raul has the upper hand, he's more agile on his feet, can move faster than the baffoon he's facing,"
I couldn't help but laugh at the description. Compared to Raul,the guy he was versing really did look like a monkey.
Despite the fact that ever fibre of my being wanted nothing more than to go up there and rescue him, I couldn't help but watch in awe as Raul served punch after stratigic punch to his apponents, before finally the referee called time and he was declared the winner.
"You know he does it for you," Peter spoke.
"Does what?" I asked confused.
"Fights, he fights for you, to impress you."
"Don't be stupid," I rolled my eyes, but I was stunned, was he really doing it for me? Why did he feel he needed to impress me?
"I'm going to the toilet," I called to Peter as people started slowly filing out the doors, satisfied with the gratuitous violence they'd witnessed, now no-doubt board.I needed some air,space to think.
As I made my way slowly towards the doors, being all but pushed,forced by the sheer numbers of people baring down on me I started to regret not asking one of the boys to accompany me.
This side of town wasn't exactly known as a safe haven and I wasn't even sure where I needed to go.
And Raul's words of warning 'never go anywhere this side of town without one of us,' rang through my head, as I made my way out into the alley behind the delapidated building and into the night air which was full of the smell of stale cigarette smoke.
"Hey there pretty," a group of guys yelled as I walked past, before wolf whistling. I shuddered and picked up my pace, reaching for my bag that was across my body to try and call one of the boys. I no longer felt safe, in fact I was starting to panic, my hands shaking as I dug blindly through my small purse trying to find my cell. In my haste and in attention, I failed to noticed a massive dip in the run down concrete and before I had a chance to correct it,my foot was falling in, my ankle twisting as I fell heavily to the ground. My hands stung as they made harsh contact with the gravel covered floor.
I sat there for a minute dazed, wanting nothing more than to curl up in a ball and cry. Why did this have to happen now? Why not when I was with the guys? I wondered, a few tears leaking from my eyes I scrubbed them away angrily trying to get up, but to no avail. It was useless. I knew I needed help, but I wasn't sure how to get it, there was no way I was going to ask the men down the street for help.
"Kara? Is that you," I looked up with a sigh of relief immediately recognising the voice and he tall figure. It was Raul, making his way out from behind the building,bag slung over his shoulder,still covered in a sheen of sweat, his muscle top sticking to his chest highlighting his toned physique.
"What happend, why aren't you with Shawn and Peter?" he asked jogging down the street and dumping his bag in the ground before bending down in front of me.
"I got lost," I sighed. I tried to move my ankle which was now throbbing,wincing as a sharp, white-hot pain shot through my foot.
"I'll kill those dimwits," he growled as he looked at me.
"Don't blame them, it was me. I went to find a toilet and I didn't ask one of them to come with me," I explained,my voice shaky from pain and fear.
"How could you be so stupid!" he yelled surprising me. He looked livid."How many times have I told you," he hissed shaking his head, reaching for my foot, but I yanked it away despite the instant ache of protest it gave off. If he was going to be a sick, I didn't want his help,I felt bad enough already.
"Why are you being such a fucking asshole?You know what, don't worry, I'll find my own way home," I spat,tears running down my cheeks unchecked as I glared at him. I struggled to get up, using the wall behind me as support, but eventually made it. As soon as I put weight on my foot though I collapsed. The firey ache that started instantly was now worse than ever.
"I'm sorry," he puffed out. "I'm just worried I'd hate for you to get hurt,I love you," he whispered the last part, by I heard it. It took everything in my power to stay calm,it wasn't like I didn't know it, but I'd never expected him to admit it.
"I am hurt," I replied cooly, pointing to my foot.
"More hurt," he amended his eyes going dark,the grim look on his face didn't make it hard to guess what he was thinking and I shuddered.
"I'm going to take the shoe off," he told me, working quicky but carefully to release my foot from the confines of the heel I'd been wearing.
I couldn't help the hiss that left my lips as it finally feel free.
"Sorry," he apologised softly, much calmer than before. "It's already swelling," he commented as he took the foot in his hand and carefully manipulated it.
"I don't think you've torn anything, but I'll wrap it to make sure," he nodded to himself, unzipping the bag he'd discarded beside me and pulling what looked like strapping tape out.
"How do you know so much?" I asked as he took my foot in his hands again, very carefully wrapping the fabric around it, before pulling it tight. I could feel it throbbing,but I said nothing, not wanting to complain. It did feel better than it had before, but I knew by the time I made it home it'd need to be iced.
"Honey you learn this stuff when you fight, you have to fiend for yourself," he responded,"There all done," he added as he admired his work.
"Give me your hand," he spoke.
"What?"
"Your hands, they're bleeding."
"Ohh," I held my hands out for him to take. He tipped some water onto them which stung like hell, and wrapped them, before placing a kiss on each of my knuckles, causing me to blush. It was lucky it was dark and dimly lit because I knew that itlf he'd noticed he would have teased the daylights out of me.
"Thank you," I took his hand that he was holding out and let him pull me up, leaning into him instinctively.
"No worries, wouldn't want an invalid walking around town now, it'd ruin the street cred," he winked, causing me to laugh. This was the side of Raul that I was used to, the cheeky, unapologetically flirty, protective Raul.
"Nah really, of course I'd look after you, you're my favourite girl," he kissed my forehead as we made our way to find the others at which point Raul promptly chewed out their ears about the dangers of leaving me alone and their completely mind-blowing stupidity which had them both looking extremely guilty.
It was quickly forgotten though as we went on to celebrate his victory, Raul never leaving my side,checking every so often that I was okay, even going so far as to find pain killers for me which helped a heap.
"Thank you," I told him again as we piled into a taxi- Peter already having gone home and Shawn still partying. Normally Raul was the party animal, but he'd insisted he go home with me to make sure I got there in one piece.
It wasn't like I was going to say no, I appreciated the sweet gesture.
"Don't sweat it. You're my girl," he answered, kissing me again, but this time on the lips momentarily stunning me.
"And you're my boy," I giggled,beaming.
"So how about we make this official?" he suggested, that cheeky grin that I loved so much present again.
"I thought you'd never ask," I responded, reaching up to kiss him again.
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pinkpeonyprincessblog · 4 years ago
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Fight For You
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"Why do people do this to themselves?" I shouted to Shawn and Peter over the roar of the crowd as Raul's fist made contact with his apponents cheek- a sickening crack ringing out around the cramped room."It's barbaric!"
"It's actually quite ordered," Peter counted,eyes not leaving the action. "There's more that they can't do than they can,"
"I still think it's stupid," I grumbled, before jumping and slapping my hands over my eyes as Raul copped a nasty hit to his chest.
The only reason I'd come to see the fight was to support Raul I'd been friends with the Triplets since we were about 5,having immediately hit it off with them on the first day of preschool.We'd been inseperable since, but I'd always had a soft spot for Raul,we just seemed to get each other- and he was always so protective of me.
In middle school he'd punched Jacob Connor's out (the resident bully) when he'd somehow found out I'd started my period and spread it around the school like wildfire. Raul had been given a 5 day suspension for it, but he'd always maintained that 'it was worth it, the little weasel got what he deserved.'
As we grew we only got closer,we were each other's confidant, the one person who we trusted with all our secrets, or biggest dreams and our deepest fears. That didn't stop us going through the awkward phase where you realise that maybe you like the other person, but are too much of a scaredy-cat to do anything about it.
Everyone could see it, my friends at school, Peter and Shawn, even my parents told me I should do something about it.
"Don't fret, Kara, your boy will be fine," Shawn laughed teasingly looking down at me bring me back to the present. The boys towered over me at 6'2 they were well over a head taller than me.
"How can you say that?He's your brother," I was appalled. They had absolutely no concern for the fact that their brother, their triplet no less was being pummelled like a car at a junk yard.
"Because," Shawn continued. "It might not look like it, but Raul has the upper hand, he's more agile on his feet, can move faster than the baffoon he's facing,"
I couldn't help but laugh at the description. Compared to Raul,the guy he was versing really did look like a monkey.
Despite the fact that ever fibre of my being wanted nothing more than to go up there and rescue him, I couldn't help but watch in awe as Raul served punch after stratigic punch to his apponents, before finally the referee called time and he was declared the winner.
"You know he does it for you," Peter spoke.
"Does what?" I asked confused.
"Fights, he fights for you, to impress you."
"Don't be stupid," I rolled my eyes, but I was stunned, was he really doing it for me? Why did he feel he needed to impress me?
"I'm going to the toilet," I called to Peter as people started slowly filing out the doors, satisfied with the gratuitous violence they'd witnessed, now no-doubt board.I needed some air,space to think.
As I made my way slowly towards the doors, being all but pushed,forced by the sheer numbers of people baring down on me I started to regret not asking one of the boys to accompany me.
This side of town wasn't exactly known as a safe haven and I wasn't even sure where I needed to go.
And Raul's words of warning 'never go anywhere this side of town without one of us,' rang through my head, as I made my way out into the alley behind the delapidated building and into the night air which was full of the smell of stale cigarette smoke.
"Hey there pretty," a group of guys yelled as I walked past, before wolf whistling. I shuddered and picked up my pace, reaching for my bag that was across my body to try and call one of the boys. I no longer felt safe, in fact I was starting to panic, my hands shaking as I dug blindly through my small purse trying to find my cell. In my haste and in attention, I failed to noticed a massive dip in the run down concrete and before I had a chance to correct it,my foot was falling in, my ankle twisting as I fell heavily to the ground. My hands stung as they made harsh contact with the gravel covered floor.
I sat there for a minute dazed, wanting nothing more than to curl up in a ball and cry. Why did this have to happen now? Why not when I was with the guys? I wondered, a few tears leaking from my eyes I scrubbed them away angrily trying to get up, but to no avail. It was useless. I knew I needed help, but I wasn't sure how to get it, there was no way I was going to ask the men down the street for help.
"Kara? Is that you," I looked up with a sigh of relief immediately recognising the voice and he tall figure. It was Raul, making his way out from behind the building,bag slung over his shoulder,still covered in a sheen of sweat, his muscle top sticking to his chest highlighting his toned physique.
"What happend, why aren't you with Shawn and Peter?" he asked jogging down the street and dumping his bag in the ground before bending down in front of me.
"I got lost," I sighed. I tried to move my ankle which was now throbbing,wincing as a sharp, white-hot pain shot through my foot.
"I'll kill those dimwits," he growled as he looked at me.
"Don't blame them, it was me. I went to find a toilet and I didn't ask one of them to come with me," I explained,my voice shaky from pain and fear.
"How could you be so stupid!" he yelled surprising me. He looked livid."How many times have I told you," he hissed shaking his head, reaching for my foot, but I yanked it away despite the instant ache of protest it gave off. If he was going to be a sick, I didn't want his help,I felt bad enough already.
"Why are you being such a fucking asshole?You know what, don't worry, I'll find my own way home," I spat,tears running down my cheeks unchecked as I glared at him. I struggled to get up, using the wall behind me as support, but eventually made it. As soon as I put weight on my foot though I collapsed. The firey ache that started instantly was now worse than ever.
"I'm sorry," he puffed out. "I'm just worried I'd hate for you to get hurt,I love you," he whispered the last part, by I heard it. It took everything in my power to stay calm,it wasn't like I didn't know it, but I'd never expected him to admit it.
"I am hurt," I replied cooly, pointing to my foot.
"More hurt," he amended his eyes going dark,the grim look on his face didn't make it hard to guess what he was thinking and I shuddered.
"I'm going to take the shoe off," he told me, working quicky but carefully to release my foot from the confines of the heel I'd been wearing.
I couldn't help the hiss that left my lips as it finally feel free.
"Sorry," he apologised softly, much calmer than before. "It's already swelling," he commented as he took the foot in his hand and carefully manipulated it.
"I don't think you've torn anything, but I'll wrap it to make sure," he nodded to himself, unzipping the bag he'd discarded beside me and pulling what looked like strapping tape out.
"How do you know so much?" I asked as he took my foot in his hands again, very carefully wrapping the fabric around it, before pulling it tight. I could feel it throbbing,but I said nothing, not wanting to complain. It did feel better than it had before, but I knew by the time I made it home it'd need to be iced.
"Honey you learn this stuff when you fight, you have to fiend for yourself," he responded,"There all done," he added as he admired his work.
"Give me your hand," he spoke.
"What?"
"Your hands, they're bleeding."
"Ohh," I held my hands out for him to take. He tipped some water onto them which stung like hell, and wrapped them, before placing a kiss on each of my knuckles, causing me to blush. It was lucky it was dark and dimly lit because I knew that itlf he'd noticed he would have teased the daylights out of me.
"Thank you," I took his hand that he was holding out and let him pull me up, leaning into him instinctively.
"No worries, wouldn't want an invalid walking around town now, it'd ruin the street cred," he winked, causing me to laugh. This was the side of Raul that I was used to, the cheeky, unapologetically flirty, protective Raul.
"Nah really, of course I'd look after you, you're my favourite girl," he kissed my forehead as we made our way to find the others at which point Raul promptly chewed out their ears about the dangers of leaving me alone and their completely mind-blowing stupidity which had them both looking extremely guilty.
It was quickly forgotten though as we went on to celebrate his victory, Raul never leaving my side,checking every so often that I was okay, even going so far as to find pain killers for me which helped a heap.
"Thank you," I told him again as we piled into a taxi- Peter already having gone home and Shawn still partying. Normally Raul was the party animal, but he'd insisted he go home with me to make sure I got there in one piece.
It wasn't like I was going to say no, I appreciated the sweet gesture.
"Don't sweat it. You're my girl," he answered, kissing me again, but this time on the lips momentarily stunning me.
"And you're my boy," I giggled,beaming.
"So how about we make this official?" he suggested, that cheeky grin that I loved so much present again.
"I thought you'd never ask," I responded, reaching up to kiss in again.
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bleepblopbloop56 · 5 years ago
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The Murder in the Dressing Room
Chapter 8: Because I Love You
Just a small note: im so excited for you guys to read this one you have no idea. going through the editing process this week has somehow made it my favorite chapter in the whole story i swear. Alright also need the routine stamp of Edited By @pathos-logical who made this what it is today i swear
Warnings: unsympathetic deceit, abusive deceit, manipulative deceit, toxic relationships,slight blood mention, slight medication mention, unwanted kissing, a litttlleee bit of unwanted touching.
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"Hey there, beautiful~" A handsome stranger in a yellow button up smiled down at him, sliding into the stool at his right. "Can I buy you a drink?" Normally Roman wouldn’t have thought twice about refusing the offer, but the irritation lingering in his chest made him reckless. He traced his eyes over the man’s face, gaze catching on his green eyes. He couldn't tell what it was, but something in them made Roman want to say yes, want to listen to every word he said. 
… Just one drink can’t hurt, he decided, requesting just a diet coke while raising his eyebrows at the man. He didn't complain, which Roman took as a good sign.
"I'm Ethan, but you can call me Dee," he introduced himself, offering his hand.
"Roman," he said, taking the hand and holding it for a moment longer than necessary. He couldn't help it- those eyes were sucking him in and putting him in a daze. 
"So what are you doing here, Roman?" The way the man- Ethan- said his name made his heart skip a beat. "Looking for anything from tonight?" The way he smirked made it clear he didn't mean anything so much as anyone, and he was looking at Roman like he was the most beautiful man in the world. It felt good to be flirted with. Logan sure as hell didn't do that too often. 
Logan… 
"Me and my boyfriend are fighting," Roman chuckled nervously. “I just wanted to have fun for a bit and forget about him." Roman scooted away, suddenly rethinking coming here. He loved Logan, he just… got so frustrated with him sometimes. He'd spent nearly every day at work for the past few months, even his days off. He worked and worked and left no time for Roman. All he wanted was some attention. That wasn't too much to ask, right?
Ethan frowned like Roman had just told him Logan had locked him up in a tower. He leaned forward a little, seemingly unconsciously bridging the space Roman had put between them. The shifting lights of the club shadowed his eyes and threw the scar on his face into sharp relief for a second, making him look… dangerous. "You deserve better."
Roman laughed purely out of shock, a little taken aback by how serious he sounded. He tried to deflect, to take some of the blame off Logan, but Ethan steamrollered right over him. "You look lonely. Don't you want to forget yourself and be someone else for a night? Don't you want to the star of the show for a change?"
Ethan had seen right through Roman- hell, he'd practically read his mind, reaching down into his soul and pulling up wants he couldn't even admit to himself. Roman wanted to move back and put some distance between himself and Ethan- or maybe just the uncomfortable truth- but then Ethan smiled, slow and deadly as any poison. "A guy like you shouldn't be lonely tonight."
Roman’s breath sped up against his will. A hopeful grin crept across his face in a way he hoped didn't look too eager. "Maybe…" He leaned in, maybe a little more than he should. "Could you… could you make that happen?" 
Ethan… no, Dee, quirked an eyebrow at him, his smirk deepening to something lethal, and struck the killing blow.
"Anything you want…" 
And god, Roman wished he could have the excuse that he was drunk that night, to say he wasn't thinking clearly when this man pulled him away into his huge house and made him feel like he was the most precious treasure in his collection. To say he was high or drunk or drugged when he woke up in another man's arms wishing this movie star life could always be his. He wanted to say that he didn't enjoy that night, that he thought of Logan the whole time, that he didn't mean any of it. But he couldn't lie to Logan… Not like that. 
Street lights lit up Dee's face as he drove down the winding streets. He'd been quiet since they'd left the hotel; whether that was good or bad was anyone's guess. Roman sat beside him just as silently, lost in thoughts of the night everything went wrong. The first of many "worst mistakes of his life". Without even realizing it, tears began to slip down his face.
Dee's hand rested on Roman's knee, thumb rubbing in small circles but not moving any farther up his leg like they usually did. He glanced over and put a fake pout on his face, the kind he was so good at. It made Roman sick. 
"Why are you crying, baby?" Roman stayed silent. "We're going home! Don't you wanna go back home with me?" Dee took his eyes off the road to wipe off the tears, and despite being a sweet gesture, Roman could only read it as a threat. Everything Dee did now felt like one- he'd never be safe around him again, not after this.
He forced himself to nod his head slightly, sniffing and wiping at his own eyes. He was lying, but he had a feeling saying "no, I want to go back to Logan and I want you to leave me alone forever" would make Dee slam the car into a tree. Dee smiled at him, turning back to the road.
“Why are you doing this, Dee?” Roman asked quietly. He didn't know what he was expecting to hear. Maybe “because I'm evil’ or ”because you’re mine”- something he could understand, something that would make sense, at least with Dee’s twisted worldview in mind. What he did not expect was the soft “because I love you” that came from the man, sounding as genuine as it had all those months ago.
“Because I love you, Roman,” Dee smiled, cupping his cheeks in his hands, "and I want to marry you." Dee hadn't waited for an answer after proposing- he’d immediately slipped the ring onto Roman’s finger, pulling Roman back in when he stumbled back in surprise. He leaned down and kissed Roman, not caring that he didn't reciprocate, ignoring how Roman tried to squirm out of his grip.
Roman's mind was racing a million miles an hour. Marriage? He had been trying to work up the courage to break up with Dee for weeks, and now he thought it was the time for marriage? 
"Don't you think that's a little fast?" Roman tried nervously, putting his hands on Dee's chest in an effort to keep him away without showing it. "I mean- Dee, baby, we've only been dating for a year," he chuckled, trying desperately to keep his voice light. He looked down at the ring. The bright diamond caught the light, a promise of more of this picture-perfect life to come… The sex, money, clothes, attention- all of it was right in front of him. Everything Roman had ever dreamed of, and all he had to do to get it was say yes.
"Do you not want to marry me?" Dee's eyes held something dangerous in them, and Roman read the question for what it was- not a question at all, but a threat.
Roman stared back at him, trying to make his mouth form any words that weren't "of course I do" trying to say that this had gone too far, that he wanted to go home, to see his friends, family, Logan, all the people Dee had made him cut ties with. 
"I'd love to, Ethan," he smiled wearily, standing on his tiptoes to kiss his cheek.
Even at that moment, he’d felt like he’d made a deal with the devil, and every time he looked at that ring he was reminded of the price he paid.
"How's your head, baby?" Dee asked. "I have some ibuprofen in the glove box if you need it." Roman wasn't all that willing to take anything Dee offered, but he was reluctantly grateful to hear it- getting slammed into a wall hadn't exactly left him feeling peachy. It could've been worse, I suppose, he thought. At least he didn't hit hard enough to dent the wall… or my skull.
He reached in the glove box, muttering a meek thank-you as he did. His hand hit against something long and thin wrapped in cloth, and when he peered in to get a better look, he was met with the sight of spots of dark red covering the fabric. He almost jerked his hand out and slammed the glove box shut, and only the knowledge that Dee was watching kept him from doing it. He slowly pulled out the bottle of pills, shaking so badly that he almost couldn’t unscrew the cap.
When his hands finally steadied, Roman took three and popped them into his mouth, wincing as he swallowed. While mumbling out another thanks to be safe, he vaguely made the connection that when Dee had apologised, it was specifically asking for forgiveness, not to make Roman feel better. Had it always been like that? No… He had to have been earnest in the beginning. Roman wouldn't have gone with him if he wasn't. Right? 
"Why are you so quiet, my prince?" Dee cooed, glancing over every few seconds to look at his love. His Prince Charming… 
"Hey, Prince Charming!" Virgil called, throwing a pillow across the room at the pair. "Back off on the PDA, I have virgin eyes." He dodged the pillow when Logan threw it back at him, laughing. He had started calling Roman that after he’d walked in on Roman serenading Logan with Disney songs in the kitchen, and Roman would be lying if he said he didn't like it.
Roman dropped to a knee, bowing to Virgil with a look of mock regret on his face "Oh King Virgil the Virgin, how will you ever forgive my misdeeds?!" He threw a hand on his forehead, flopping onto his back like a Victorian mistress who’d just gotten a whiff of her vivid green wallpaper. "My only hope is that you continue to let me rule over this humble kingdom under you!" Roman kept his eyes shut tight, trying not to break, but when Logan of all people started snickering, he burst out laughing and let the act drop. Virgil was laughing too, they all were, and that was the best thing about them. They were always laughing, everything was fun with them.
And now Virgil was gone… 
And now he was back with Ethan… 
Now he'd ruined it all.
Roman let his tears fall freely. Sitting beside the murderer of his best friends and his brother, it occurred to him- not for the first time in the relationship- how completely and utterly trapped he was.
"I'm just… thinking about Remus," he whispered, wiping his tears with the top of his shirt. It was only partly a lie; he wasn't just thinking of Remus, he was thinking of everyone. Remus, Virgil, Thomas, Logan- all of them were clawing out of his brain and finding their way down his face. But Remus was family, and hopefully that was someone Dee would allow him to grieve for…   
But Dee didn't look sympathetic. "You didn't need him," he said coldly, pulling into their house- no, his house. Roman didn't belong there anymore. "I did you a favor, Roman. Now you can focus on me." Roman must've done something with his face, because Dee's coldness turned right back to sweetness. "Now we can focus on us."
Roman nodded even though he knew that wasn't right, stomach twisting in knots at the reminder that he was the reason people died- that no matter how indirectly, it might as well have been him who’d killed them. That he was only here so Dee wouldn't hurt anyone else
"Remember the rules?" Dee asked, staring down at his passenger before unlocking the doors. The light, casual malice in his voice made Roman think of the knife in the glove box, and he nodded jerkily, biting the inside of his cheek to keep from crying. They'd gone over them three times in the car; they’d been drilled into his brain by now. He thought he’d break down if he had to hear them out loud one more time, but- "Say them," Dee demanded, and Roman obliged. 
"One hand on you at all times." He started with the easy one, voice strained to the point of breaking to keep from bursting into tears. "If I run, you'll kill Logan. If I scream, you'll kill Logan." His voice was cracking. "If I call for help, you'll kill Logan…" Dee smiled at him, leaning in and kissing Roman sweetly as he unlocked the doors to the place Roman had once called home. Hand on Roman's back, Dee pushed him gently through the house. They walked through the living room, spare bedrooms, the small library, passing everything until they were in the very back. Roman almost lost himself in the haze of familiar scenery for a few minutes, but then-
"Dee? Dee, our room is back there, Dee where are we going?" Roman couldn’t help how his voice pitched up in terror, and his attempts to dig his heels in were to no avail; Dee just shoved him forward more forcefully. He threw open the door to the basement- the one room in this huge house Roman had always been too afraid to go into, the one that locked from the outside. 
"I have some business to do, my prince, I'm going to have to leave you here for a bit," Dee said with a fake pout. Nonsensically, almost hysterically, Roman thought that all his expressions were fake- nothing about him was real. Not anymore.
"Please don't leave me here, Dee," Roman cried, trying to follow him up the stairs. "Please, I promise I won't leave, Ethan-" but the door slammed shut, and the lock clicked behind him.
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One thing that Ethan didn't mention was that no matter how closely Roman followed the rules, no matter how good and obedient he was, Ethan had always planned on killing Logan. Nothing Roman could do or say would've convinced him otherwise. 
Ethan was in love with the idea of Roman, in love with having someone beautiful to wake up beside and do everything he said. He loved having his little plaything, and one person was trying to keep that from him. And that just wouldn't do… 
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wheelygoodteddys · 5 years ago
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I don't want to do this!:
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I absolutely hate writing about religious discrimination!
Frankly, I wish that I wasn't putting fingers to keyboard about any discrimination.
I also desperately don't want the focus to be on discrimination against everything Islamic and Muslim.
However, sadly, it's the most venomous hated that I have ever encountered, second only to racism against the black human beings of our world.
All my life I must have lived under a rock, maybe I live under a rock now, yet the vileness and outright lies that come out of those obsessed with hating all Islam and Muslims, plus anyone who stands up and says this is wrong, is obscene.
I am disgusted in the way these people respond.
I have had differing opinions with both Muslim men are women yet been addressed with respect and politeness. They are peaceful and not intimidating in any way.
Speak to a person who is anti Muslim, they refuse to listen to anything that may contradict what they want to believe, they will call you a liar and slander you. They intimidate and bully, call you names, question your mental stability, stalk your FB and target your children. The insults and illogical reasoning is unbelievable.
I am horrified that there are people like this in the world!
More horrifying still is for once I can see the appeal in hating the West.
Imagine a young Muslim man, born here, and rather then allowing him to explain what his religion means to him, to try and teach people, that hate everything about him, that he deserves to be not discriminated against, he gets told what his religion is, he is called a murder, a terrorist, a paedophile, a Mysoginist, etc. His sister is spoken to about her husband beating her, being oppressed, asked if she still has her clitorus, threatened with physical abuse, has her hijab torn off, threatened with rape, told she is a bad mother because she sells her baby girls to be raped by old men.
And no matter what they say to try and explain their actual beliefs the abuse flows. And this is from their own countrymen.
Mate, I would want them all gone too! Be honest, who wouldn't!?
Yet if they report abuse or complain about their treatment they are accused of wanting to change things. "They come here and try to change everything", is the cry from the haters!
1) There is NO law that insists that ALL women wear a Burqa in Saudi Arabia: Hijab is only compulsory for Muslim women. Anything else is a choice for those in a practicing Muslim family.
2) Women are not allowed to get an education in Saudi Arabia: I urge you to look up any TV broadcast from local Saudi Arabia telecasts. Women, in hijab, reading the news. This suggests an education. However, both men and women are encouraged to gain knowledge in Islam.
3) WTF does Saudi Arabia have to do with every other Muslim world wide, especially in Australia?
4) FGM (female genital mutilation) is an Islamic practice: Far from it! The Islamic religion urges that both men and women enjoy sex and that a man sexually pleases his wife. FGM is a tribal practice. However, MGM (male genital mutilation) has and still is widely practiced in Australia.
5) There is NO "no go" zones in Australia!: This urban myth was started by a female, Canadian Islamphobe. It was said to be proved when the police removed her from Lakemba for disturbing the peace. The police weren't working for the Muslims to enforce their "no go" zones! How ridiculous. Others tell totally unbelievable stories about women walking there and being spat on for not wearing hijab. Firstly, not all Muslimah wear hijab, even in Lakemba. Also there are numerous non-Muslims that go to these fabled areas to eat, visit, shop, do business, etc. This rumor is absolutely ludicrous!
6) Muslim women are oppressed, even here in Australia!: It is naive that there is no abusive people in any religion or walk of life, however, Muslimah are not oppressed as perf the usual course. Quiet the opposite! Historically, and as it is today, Muslimah have the freedom to do and be whatever they want, just like Muslim men. There is no distinction between what male and females can do. In fact, men are encouraged to wash their own clothes, cook and do housework. Also the Qur'an makes it very clear that the mother is the head of the household.
7) It is always claimed that Muslims want to change things: Yet, the question, "what have they actually changed?", goes unanswered. Muslims are required to live by the laws of the land, and as such, really don't want to change anything but the way they are treated. Especially how the women are treated. Our hero Islamphobes always target women and children because Muslimah are more recognizable.
8) Why are these people so threatened by the hijab or niqab?: For fuck sake it's a piece of material! It's not what's on a woman's head that oppresses her. However, who are those that want to oppress Muslimah? Muslim men or the Islamphobe? I say without hesitation, the Islamphobe! They don't ask a Muslim women how she feels, they don't ask what she may want to wear. They rarely comprehend the meaning of the hijab to a woman but rather try to twist it into some sexually perverse. They proclaim that Muslim women shouldn't wear a head covering. As Australia is a free country, with a freedom of religion and freedom of lawful individually, the real oppression and discrimination, is telling Muslim women what to wear.
9) Telling Muslim women what they are: The idea that, to Islamphobes, Muslim women are stupid and therefore, don't know that they are oppressed, would have to be the most Mysoginist slap in the face ever! All I can say is, "at least Muslim men know a woman's worth is awesome".
10) Muslim men marry girl babies of 5 to 6 years old and Muslim mothers allow it: Firstly, American is the place booming in child brides at the moment. With some states having no minimum age for marriage and also no divorce for women. Compared to Malaysian Clerics, years ago, raising the age of concent to 18. Also contrary to European/western/Christian culture, women have been granted divorce since the 700s in Islam.
11) Women wear the Burqa in Australia: This is actually one of those urban myths, started by Pauline Hanson. To see a Burqa in Australia would be very unusual. Most Australian Muslimah are from cultures that don't don the Burqa. The Burqa is an Afghan tradition and is very rare in Australia. Then why fight "ban the Burqa"? In one word, principle! It is against a woman's basic rights to tell her how much she can or can't wear, within the laws of public decency. There is also a security argument, as a Burqa is rarely worn that argument is rather moot.
12) Muslim men have lots of wives and children and just live on welfare: This is so silly that it's laughable. Once again, it is rare for Muslim men to have more than one wife these days as it is financially impractical. Also most Muslim men prefer one wife. In Australia, on average, the Muslim family consists of 2 children. With all this being said, usually Muslim men and women are educated and professional people. If not they strive to own businesses. The stupid welfare claims are unfounded and actually go against most Muslim traditions and cultures that have a hard work ethic.
13) They come here are get more welfare than Australians with no waiting period: This information can be researched on government websites. There is a waiting time for new Australians, Muslim or otherwise, which often means charitable families that sponsor them and take them in during this time. When they do receive any benefit, before getting on their feet, it is no more or less than anyone else.
14) They receive a thousand dollar iPhone and designer clothes as soon as they arrive: Is this one even worth answering? I just shake my head in disbelief!
15) Muslims have been Australians for generations: It amazes me how many people actually believe that no Muslim is Australian born. The history of the Islamic people in Australia predates white colonization. Islamic men from Indonesia travelled down and through Australia. There was intermarriage with the Indigenous peoples and even revertion to Islam by some. A more constant move to Australia, by those of the Islamic faith, started in the 1800's.
16) All Muslims are the same because they read from the same book: this is like saying that all Christian denominations are the same because they read from the same book. Most know that this is not the case.
There are many different varieties of Muslim. Yes they have the Qur'an yet addition books vary between the sects.
There are 72 different sects, numerous sects within the main sects, different traditions, different cultures, different regions, different regions, different countries and different families.
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As for the Qur'an: there is the subject context, further context, overall context, historical context and spiritual context. Then all the different ways it is interpreted. Also interpretation can be manipulated and cherry picked to suit an agenda or bias. This can be said of the Bible also.
Where interpretation is important is in the understanding of Arabic. To translate a language as complex as Arabic into simple English leaves the meaning truly lacking.
For example: Islam is a very sexually moral religion. Men and women are not meant to sexulise each other, There is no unsupervised dating and dressing is modest. However, it is commonly thought the men will receive a bus load of virgins to have an orgy with in paradise. However, "virgin" more correctly translates to "pure". This is a "spiritual" context and "heavenly beings/angels is probably a better translation into English.
17) Muslims want to kill all Jews and Muslims. The Qur'an tells them to kill all Christians: Unfortunately people are so off the mark on this one. Islam actually says that Muslims cannot destroy a place of worship nor hurt religious "ministers". The Qur'an refers to Christians and Jews as the "people of the book". In fact, the only other women a Muslim man is permitted to marry is either a Christian or a Jew. The wives of these two religions are also not expect to revert as they are seen as sisters to Islam. Christian and Jewish men and women are thought of as brothers and sisters to Muslims.
There is a long list of urban myth, propaganda, rumors and out right lies that are used as ammunition against Islam and Muslims.
The arrogance of the Islamphobe is to tell a Muslim what their faith is! With no other religion would a person, outside that faith, verse another in their religion.
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