#I always change around their story a bit but they always end up a riddler henchman
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Current thoughts: Scarecrow henchman who is super into scaring people and analyzing them and chemical stuff way more than Scarecrow himself and spends so many missions abandoning whatever they were supposed to be actually doing to go harass other henchmen
Anyways they have a huge crush on Henchman 11 (riddler henchman oc) and always say stuff like âonly Iâm allowed to traumatize themâ and thinks of their relationship as enemies with unresolved romantic/sexual tension whoâd do anything to âtake the other person outâ in both senses, but because of their crush theyâre actually super sweet to Henchman 11 and at most they just tease H11 about their fear of needles, absolutely no one thinks of those two as enemies
Henchman 11 is someone in their early 20âs who canât fight for shit and has no where near the level of intelligence that the Riddler has (theyâre a lil bit smart but theyâre definitely not a genius, more average with great pattern recognition and great at bullshitting), theyâve only survived as a henchman so far because hardly anyone notices theyâre there, their main job is usually breaking into abandoned warehouses beforehand to make sure thereâs tvâs and computers set up so that the Riddler can taunt Batman through them
Their job wouldnât be so tough at all if it wasnât for that really terrifying Scarecrow henchman who seems like they want to help? But then says stuff like âI wanna hear you screamâ while taunting them with needles. it just makes their job harder.
#one day Iâm gonna do little âintroducing my ocsâ posts#but itâs so tough to come up with names#and have the energy to draw#but especially the fycking names#henchman 11 is the only one I have picked out because itâs a joke on âElle Vaughnâ#a fake name they go by#anyways they bounced around a lot of villains before settling in as one of the Riddlerâs#just complains about other people bullying them cause they canât fight and the Riddler picked them up by the back of their neck#and was like this one is mine now hell yeah bullies suck#Batman#the riddler#scarecrow#those two are more just mentioned since this is a post about my ocs#I love these two specific ones but Iâm so bad at coming up with names đ#calling the other one âNightmareâ is just stupid right?#I feel like that might have already been used anyways I gotta check at some point#I think I mentioned henchman 11 before#I always change around their story a bit but they always end up a riddler henchman#batman ocs
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TADC Gotham Rogues AU
I know, a digital circus au, completely unheard of and original, but I was dressing the cast up as batman villains and liked the designs so much I've decided to make it its own au. This is not something that happened of my own free will, mind you. The demons forced my hand.
I don't have everyone so far, as I still haven't assigned villains to Kinger and Zooble, and I haven't drawn Jax as the Creeper yet, so if any of you have ideas on what to do with those two it would be highly appreciated.
Anyway, here's the designs and some paragraphs on the current stories I have for them.
First up is Gangle as Two Face! Her design is probably my favourite so far.
Once a respected lawyer, Gangle is a dangerous criminal with an obsession with pairs and an inability to make decisions without her beloved coin. Before that, she was a mayoral candidate and looking to properly expose the Falcone crime family. Rather miraculously, a man who used to work with the Falcones was willing to make a full confession, first to her and then in court. When the court date rolled around, however, he denied ever working with the Falcones at all, making Gangle look a fool.
Her temper was something she had always tried to keep from the press, knowing what it would do to her reputation. It came in the form of her second mask, which while seeming happy, expressed a severe desire for revenge and a sadistic joy. This mask was getting closer to showing the more she pressed the man to fully confess. Suddenly, he cried to the security guards to attack, causing them to jump her and break her mask into dust and tear apart her ribbons.
Unbeknownst to the people in the court, the Falcones had managed to replace the court's guards with their own to attack and hopefully kill Gangle. While they were arrested and Gangle survived, her mask could not be put back together. She never recovered physically nor mentally, her duelling personalities now having to occupy the same body at the same time. She did everything right, and still suffered. Law held no justice. Justice held no law. Someone's fate may as well be left to the simple toss of a coin.
Caine plays the role of the Riddler, although a bit less narcissistic than the original. He's also not an AI here, as this au is set in the 'real world', but more in a 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit' sense. (Humans and cartoony creatures occupying the same world)
Caine did his best to thrive in whatever workplace he could, thinking his abnormally high IQ would surely make life a breeze for him. However, his lack of money made things very difficult for him. He wasn't close with any higher-ups, his constant insistence on changing and improving ideas was found annoying, and his high intelligence was far less appreciated by his co-workers than he thought it would be.
Left alone with his genius and desire for power and respect, he turned to making gadgets of his own, selling them to gain money for more materials to make more overly complicated machines. Alas, he was plagued by his desire to show off and prove himself, so his contraptions became more violent as he turned to selling to the many crime leagues of Gotham. The public barely ever understood his perfectly mind-bending creations, anyway.
Caine was lonely, though, in his brilliance, so he decided to set up what seemed like a harmless intelligence test online, recruiting the top five performers to meet him for one final test. He put them through puzzle after puzzle, watching how they worked under stress and timers, and how they managed with his adventures. To his disappointment, none survived.
Ready to accept being alone at the top, and relatively unaffected by the deaths considering how little of a purpose those victims ended up serving, he was unexpectedly found and apprehended by police. A certain mob boss he had sold some of his best torture devices to had ratted him out in an attempt to lessen his own sentence.
Thrown in Arkham Asylum, Caine realised that this was the path he had to take. Society wasn't ready for his genius. They simply couldn't fathom using it for good, if at all. Perhaps if he showed just how dangerous it could be, his intelligence would finally be given the respect it deserved.
Next, there's Ragatha as the Ventriloquist. I decided to use Terrible!Ragatha as a replacement for Scarface, who was originally created by @obamerzslop ! I highly recommend checking out his au's, they're what indirectly convinced me to make this. She admittedly doesn't really have T!Ragatha's personality, but she does keep the design.
Ragatha is a meek and relatively gentle woman, her talent for altering and throwing her voice giving her some very good job opportunities in entertainment. Unfortunately, she was always haunted by a voice in the back of her mind. It wanted power. It wanted bloodshed. It was a part of her, yet the two couldn't be more different.
Unable to bare it any longer, Ragatha stole some materials from the studio she worked in and built her own puppet, made from wood and rags. When she was building it, she finally relented to her separate personality and let it control her. It was going to be its body, so it deserved a say in it.
Looking down at the puppet, Ragatha's mind felt less crowded. She put it on her hand, and it immediately started speaking. The puppet now held her separate personality, speaking in its voice. Ragatha thought that maybe now it would be less bloodthirsty, the body being a gift of sorts that would appease it. If anything, the personality got worse.
Going by the name of Dollface, the puppet quickly took control of Ragatha's life. She was a servant to her now. That was when she was forced into a life of crime, serving the now mafia boss, Dollface, and her greedy pursuit of power. Many have made the mistake of claiming the two are the same. That Dollface is a mere puppet that Ragatha could simply remove. None make that mistake twice, as they typically don't live long enough to do so.
Finally, it's Pomni as the Great White Shark. These villains keep getting progressively more obscure- Whilst she is far more threatening, this Pomni does still obey cartoon logics and physics, much to her displeasure. A part of that is her teeth becoming sharp when stressed/angry, which is why they're always like that now.
Pomni started out as a low-level criminal, pleading insanity at her court case to avoid being sent to prison. Miraculously, it was allowed, although now she thinks it was less because they believed her insane, but more because they thought it would be a good show of the consequences for such lies.
Rather naively, Pomni assumed the insanity of the inmates at Arkham Asylum would make them easy to manipulate, ready to be lead by someone with their head on straight yet an equal desire for chaos and power. She was too confident that she would get respect as 'the Great White Shark', or even be feared. She couldn't have been more wrong.
The prisoners in Arkham tormented her, never letting her forget that she had chosen this hell that they were locked in. It was absurd to have a sane person amongst Gotham's criminally insane, anyway, and they just couldn't stand for that.
As much as she begged, Pomni was given no mercy from the authorities, being written off as just as insane as she had claimed to be in court that day. Over the course of her stay, she began to break more and more, needing a way out before she lost herself completely.
One day, some prisoners organised an escape. Pomni scrambled to leave with them, but was quickly pushed aside. Since they knew how weak she was, she was ignored by the guards, but not by the inmates. In order to completely get her out of the way, she was thrown in the large freezer where most of Mr Freeze's items and weapons were kept. Unfortunately, the weapons were removed first, leaving her with no way out.
Frostbite began to set in. Her nose froze and fell off. She lost a finger on each hand as well as parts of her lips. Her skin turned blue. Eventually, when Mr Freeze was recaptured, one of the police officers went to put his weapons away. That was when they found her.
Pomni had finally snapped. Rather than thank the officer like she once might have done, she pushed through her frozen blood and knocked him down, tearing apart his flesh with her sharpened teeth. She couldn't do much because of her state at the time, but it did mean she was finally viewed as a threat. Her title as the Great White Shark was finally being used. She had lost her mind, but had become far more formidable than she was before. The next time they escaped, she fought her way through. While she is now relatively business-oriented, that violent anger is always there, waiting for the water to be tainted with blood.
That's all I've got for now, which was really long whoops-
I'm pretty proud of this, and hopefully I never make another because good god. This is a lot.
#tadc au#batman#gotham rogues#the amazing digital circus#tadc caine#tadc pomni#tadc ragatha#tadc gangle
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⥠prompt: âi thought you were dead? for years, i thought you were dead! and i hate that i still love you and never moved on!âÂ
⥠pairing: tim drake (red robin) x fem! reader
⥠lyric inspiration: âyouâre riding high in April, shot down in May but I know Iâm going to change that tune when Iâm back on top in June. I said thatâs life and as funny as that may seem, some people get their kicks stomping on a dream.â
⥠note: not checked for grammar or spelling mistakes / please check the pinned tweet please! since iâm very low on inspiration.
Tim Drake stared at you, mouth wide open, not knowing what to say or do. he felt like he saw a ghost. you were standing across the room, talking amongst others as they instantly crowded around you. everyone had thought the same thing Tim did and only a selective few knew about your whereabouts.Â
you were giving Dick a hug, whispering in his ear about how much you missed him as Damian stood there dumbfounded. Jason was not in the room or else you knew that he would be giving you an earful about the entire situation. Jason always did think of you as a sister when you first started dating Tim.Â
âwhat the fuck happened to you?â Damian screamed, finally coming into the realization of the situation, âyou were dead! we saw you die! all of us did!â he continued. you bent down, giving him a hug as he didnât bother to try and deny it.Â
âitâs a long story. i was under secrecy for a long time and couldnât tell or say anything without me getting caught,â you told him. you looked to Dick who still couldnât believe what was going on, âit mustâve been a monumental mission if you were technically dead for three years and I couldnât know about it,â he replied.Â
you nodded, whispering to him that youâd tell them the details later, âis...he around?â you asked, referencing Tim. Dick moved a bit to the left, revealing the man you were still madly in love with. you felt yourself gulp, scared on his reaction, âoh god, I never realized how bad this is,â Dick whispered to himself, sensing the tension immediately.Â
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you swinging around the Batcave, Batman clearly annoyed with your antics as you finally plopped down next to him, âaww câmon Bruce! live a little! this Batcave is so depressing and need I say, dark?â you said, hearing the door jingle open.Â
âgreat, the boys are here,â he murmured, realizing that introductions had to happen between you and his sons. Bruce had taken you in a few months ago, under the guise that you needed a better mentor, âyou havenât met them, right?â he asked.Â
you shook your head no, âcourse I havenât! itâs my first week in Gotham!â you exclaimed happily. you did hero work out of the west coast and happened to finally land in Gotham for the first time ever, âalthough I did run into Damian earlier in the week so I think heâll recognize me!âÂ
Tim and Dick were the ones who walked in, conversing about some Gotham football game. you smiled at the two boys as they stopped dead in their tracks, âuh....Bruce, who is this?â Dick asked, pointing at you. you stood up, shaking their hands, âIâm ( your name )! Bruceâs new apprentice!â you explained.Â
the two sighed, Dickâs first thought being if Alfred knew about you. Tim on the other hand didnât exactly respond as quick. you were oddly excitable, not exactly the personality that ran rampant across the âfamilyâ, âapprentice or daughter?â Dick asked, a bit playfully.Â
âsheâs an apprentice. no need to adopt someone whoâs already an adult,â he replied as he stood up himself, âshe came from the west coast so she doesnât exactly know her way around here. itâd be helpful if one of you showed her around. I donât trust Jason or Damian enough,â he said, walking to another one of the computers.Â
âStephanie isnât around?â Damian asked, walking inside of the cave, âsheâs already acquainted with her and she isnât available to do it right now so itâs up to Dick or you Tim,â Bruce repeated. Dick looked to his brother with his eyebrow lifted up, âwell?â he asked Tim.Â
the two of them went to look at you who was already not paying attention to what was going on. you were nose deep into a computer with music blaring inside of your headphones, âI swear that girl has ADHD or something,â Damian murmured to his brothers, âbut I think Drake should do it! you just love getting to know people, donât you?â Damian pressured.Â
Bruce nodded in agreement, âitâs settled, youâre showing her around!â Tim stared at Damian, ready to attack the gremlin with his bare hands, âappreciate it Tim!â you yelled from your seat, surprising the three who thought you couldnât hear what they were saying.Â
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it was already a few months into your internship with the Batfamily. you had gotten closer with Jason, Stephanie, and because of your relationship with Dick, you befriended Starfire as well. even though your work was constantly surrounding you around Tim, you werenât around him much unless it had to do with work.Â
âwhere you heading off too?â Jason asked, seeing you all dressed up, âStar, Barbara, and Steph wanted to go out for the night since we arenât on duty so weâre going to get drinks up the street,â you told him. he nodded, looking to Tim and seeing the way he was checking you out, âwhy do you go with them, Tim?â he asked.Â
Tim looked at Jason with a bewildered expression, âwhy would I be the only guy in the group?â he asked sarcastically. you on the other hand jumped up in joy, âyou should!â you exclaimed, âcome on! it would be amazing! you know you want too!â you poked Timâs side in anticipation.Â
he sighed, slipping a bit on the couch, âfine,â he muttered, making you excited all over again. you gave him a few minutes to get himself together, âyou know he likes you, right?â Jason told you. you laughed out of genuine shock, âwho? Tim? yeah right!â you let out another laugh, not believing he was lying to your face, âfine, donât believe me but itâs pretty obvious.âÂ
you couldnât say much else as Tim walked out, hair restyled and threw on a different jacket, âready?â he asked, hands deep in his pockets. you nodded, throwing Jason a scrap piece of paper before heading out the door as Dick walked inside, âmeeting the girls?â he asked.Â
âyeah and Iâm taking your brother as a hostage,â Dick was surprised, âdid you finally?â he started to ask before Tim screamed at him to shut up, âhow about we leave,â Tim told you, discreetly hitting Dick on the back of his leg as retaliation.Â
the two of you walked out as you told Tim that the place you usually went out with the girls was in walking distance, âI think theyâre going to be surprised you even decided to leave your apartment,â you joked as he rolled his eyes playfully, âI donât think theyâll mind. at least Stephanie can stop saying that I never go out,â he said.Â
you laughed softly, âyeah you might be going out with a bunch of girls but it sure beats being stuck inside playing video games or doing work,â you replied, âyeah, guess your right,â you two walked inside of the restaurant, already seeing Steph, Starfire, and Barbara sitting at the usual table.Â
the three girls had their mouth hanging as they saw you walking in with Tim, âhe actually came out?â Barbara screamed, not believing Tim was actually out, âyeah, figured it was better than staying in for the night!â you said excitedly.Â
âI couldnât even get him to come out with me at times and I dated him,â Steph murmured under her breath to Star. she laughed as you pulled chairs for you and Tim, âIâm getting first round of shots!â you told the group excitedly. Star and Barbara had followed you to the bar, leaving Steph and Tim in a small awkward silenceÂ
âyou like her donât you?â she asked. Tim nodded, figuring it was better to just tell the truth than to lie, âthatâs cute! sheâs a great girl. Iâm happy you finally found someone else but I will say one thing, I think you better get a move on with your feels with her because I know a few others who have an interest in her and one might be on your team,â she said, not so subtly hinting at Connor.Â
Tim was taken back by what Stephanie was telling her but remained silent, âand I think sheâd say yes on Connor so you better be quick,â she laughed, seeing Timâs slightly jealous eyes. you returned to the table, giving everyone their glass as you raised yours in the air, âto Tim! for actually leaving his house for once!â you screamed as they all raised their glass and took the shot down.
throughout the night, Tim saw the way you were singing and dancing with Steph and Star, your terrible drunk singing voice getting louder as they played âpoker faceâ by lady gaga towards the end of the night.Â
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you stared at Riddler, seeing that he was ready to attack Tim with full intentions to kill him. you debated for a moment, saving a few civilians from getting mildly hurt or seeing your boyfriend get killed? you chose the latter and ran to Tim who was not paying attention in the slightest at what Riddler was doing.Â
âRed!â you screamed, your feet moving as fast as they could and pushing him out of the way. you felt the slice of the knife into your stomach as you had successfully pushed Tim to safety, âfuck,â you whispered, seeing the blood already pooling underneath you.Â
although you getting hurt was already pre-planned, you had no intentions of getting hurt this badly, âfuck, fuck, fuck,â you continued, trying to grab your cape to stop the bleeding, Tim stared down at you, seeing the blood gushing at a rate too dangerous for his liking, âhold on, please hold on!â he screamed, moving you out of harms way.Â
Bruce had saw you giving him the signal, weakly but you still gave it to him. it was your only chance for your pre-planned mission to actually succeed and the start of that plan was to make you die in front of everyone. Bruce had swung down from the stairs, seeing the way your eyes closed.Â
âshe needs to go to the hospital,â he told Tim, making him rush you to the hospital himself. he knew this was the only time he would be able to say his goodbyes to you and he need to make it count, âgo now!â he yelled.Â
Tim dragged your almost lifeless body to the nearest hospital, screaming at the staff that you needed help immediately. the nurses grabbed your body, hauling it to the OR as Tim sat there, blood all over his uniform as he watched you get wheeled into the hallway.Â
it felt like hours by the time they gave an update to all of them. Bruce, Tim, Dick, Jason, Steph, Barbara, and Damian, were sitting in the waiting area, munching on food nervously as the nurse came out of the hallway, eyes bleary with tears.Â
âshe didnât make it out of surgery. she passed.âÂ
all of them (for the exception of Bruce), immediately bursted into tears. Tim more than anyone had fell to the ground, having no control of his body as he screamed that it couldnât be true and that you werenât actually gone. a part of Bruceâs heart broke seeing his son having a mental breakdown but he knew for their safety and yours, he couldnât say a word.Â
the following days were left to plan your funeral as the nurses who relied your wishes stated that you wanted a closed casket for no one, not even Tim, to see your dead body. Tim hadnât spoken a word to anyone as he only spoke up when it came for him to plan your arrangements.Â
they buried your casket with your uniform laying on top of it as they all saw your casket get lower and lower to the ground. Tim was by this point sobbing as he couldnât have cared who saw and who didnât.Â
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Dick grabbed Damian, moving themselves to another part of the room as you walked slowly to Tim. he had yet to say anything but as soon as you locked eyes with him, you both let out sobs to each other. Tim grabbed you by the arms, bringing you into a hug as he sobbed into your shoulders.Â
âwhat the fuck is going on?â he yelled, not knowing what to say, âIâm alive Timmy. I didnât die that night,â you practically sobbed back to him. he released you, now anger and sadness crossing over him, âwhat the fuck do you mean you didnât die?â he screamed, scaring Dick and Damian in the process.Â
you sat on the ground, trying to compose yourself, âI went on an undercover mission for league. I had to die in order to protect not only myself but all of you and the entire league. which explains why I look different,â you murmured the last part.Â
âI thought you were dead. for years, I thought you were dead! and I hate that I still love you and never moved on!â he exclaimed, seeing the way you stared at him heartbrokenly, âyou think I wanted this to happen? it was for the betterment of the league if I took on this mission. I never wanted to leave you or Steph, hell I didnât want to leave any of you but I had too! it broke my heart knowing what I had to do!â you yelled back.Â
Tim bent down, taking you into his arms, âwhat the hell are we going to do?â he whispered in your ear, not knowing how to respond to any of this rationally. you shrugged as the two of you tried to calm yourselves down from the hysterics you both were throwing, âI just need you here with me,â you whispered back.Â
Tim nodded, not releasing you from the hug you were giving him. âI wonât. I wonât let you go! not anymore!â he replied. you laughed through your tears as you heard someone else walk into the room.Â
âwhat the fuck.....â you heard Steph and Jasonâs voice scream through the Batcave, âwhat the FUCK is going on?â they screamed in panic.Â
hehehe a cliffhangerÂ
#DC comics#DC imagines#dc x reader#dc imagine#dc#Tim Drake#tim drake imagine#tim drake x reader#Tim Drake x Y/n#Red Robin#red robin x reader#comics#red robin imagine#red robin x y/n
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Yoooo do you have a post somewhere about your Gotham sona's info?
I have an official post on my RP blog but I can put it here! (I'm debating on removing the tattoos on the ref sheet tbh, but I'm not sure yet X'D)
Name: Sona Bean Xueen
Height: 5'0
Weight: 200lbs
Blood Type: B+
Education: Associates Degree
Which Batman Verse is she from?
My own universe called "Death's Child" I take a mixture of my favorite versions of Batman villains, and heroes and mix them.
Relationships:
Victor Zsasz (Sexual and Romantic)
Edward Nygma (Sexual and Romantic)
Jonathan Crane (Romantic)
Oswald Cobblepot (Friend)
Harley Quinn (Friend)
Waylon Jones (Friend)
Jervis Tetch (Friend)
Harvey Dent (Friend)
Victor Fries (Familial)
Pamela Isley (Friend)
Jim Gordon (Very rocky friendship; He would jail her if given the chance.)
Background:
Sona grew up in normal comfort for the first ten years of her life. The daughter of a low tier mafia henchmen, who ran a red light district building by the name of the "Bucking Bronco" where anyone could get their rocks off for the night, for a price. Her father was a man by the name of Jeorge King.
She was spoiled rotten, but never seemed to quite understand that she was. Clothes, toys, treats, and the like were given to her freely, even by men and women her father worked with. She was happy.
However, one day it all changed. She became ill.
Everyone at birth is scanned in this universe. When you are, it's determined what insurances will cover you, what surgery will be allowed to you, and how expensive treatment costs would be. Sona had contracted an easily curable illness, however her scans at birth showed that she stood a 5% chance of contracting said illness. Treatment was expensive, her father's insurance wouldn't cover the cost, and he began to seek out ways to get money to cover it.
This was the first step into a dark era.
Her father began stealing money behind his boss's back, trying to hit up places that wasn't on the list, and even began selling drugs and illegal weaponry to rival gangs.
One night when Sona was asleep, she awoke to gunshots in her living room. Scared the, now thirteen year old, girl walked down the hall and into the room to see three men in black over her fathers body, a bullet through his head. She held in her scream, her voice a whimper between her fingers. But their ears were sharp, and their voices like venom.
"Hey there little girl," one purred, advancing on the young girl who could only cry, "It's okay... I'm not gonna hurt you... okay well, that's a lie... you see your father's been very, very naughty~ Which means you have just as much to pay for as he does, you know? No hard feelings~"
That night the screams that ebbed from her lips were muffled by the rough assault of her intruders. It ended with a bullet to her gut, in hopes she would suffer as a final 'fuck you' to the King line.
As she lay in a mess of blood, sweat and tears, she choked back her whimpers. It wasn't fair. None of it was fair!
She got up, shaking on her hands and knees, crawling over to her father's corpse. She shook him, desperately trying to wake him, but to no avail. She shook harder.
"Please! Please.... dad, wake up! Please.... I... I need you... I can't.... I can't breath..." she felt blood in the back of her throat, but she refused to die. She had to live. She had to!
The memory is a blur, but that day she was rescued by a young man. A police officer of all things. Peter Gordon. She was alone. She had a decent amount of wealth left behind by her father, an inheritance of sorts. she had to change her name. Leave the old behind. They'd find her if she didn't. So she changed her name to Xueen.
It took six months to repair the damage. She was told she would never be able to have children, but it didn't seem to phase her. She didn't care about starting a family. To hell with what little future she had left. What she craved was revenge.
Revenge came on her 16th birthday. After a few years of underground training, paying hired guns to teach her to use high caliber weapons, and pistols, she finally shot her shot. The men that raided her family home and murdered her father died at her hands. She shot out their knees, broke elbows with sledge hammers, gutted one and slung his entrails over another, she pulled eyes from their sockets, used adrenaline to keep them alive for 48 hours. When the screams finally faded, she sobbed. She finally killed the people that murdered her father.
She had no purpose. She was still going to die. It was just a matter of how long it would take until she died.
But a thought occurred. Those three were just following orders. They were just pawns on a much larger board. There was still a king to overthrow. Her hands clenched into fists, and a snarl laced her lips. There was more to do. She had nothing to lose. Death was already at her doorstep, might as well greet him with an open hand.
She no longer feared death.
Sona invested in stocks which only served to increase her wealth, but by this point her illness had progressed to the point of no recovery. If she'd just gotten the treatment as a child, it wouldn't have progressed this far. She was eighteen.
She hired her own group of thugs, her own gang beginning to form. But they weren't quite up to snuff. She needed someone with more experience in killing... someone who wouldn't hesitate. Someone who would be loyal, and follow her every command. She was getting sicker. She needed someone to be her weapon when she was unable to lift one herself.
A few weeks later she hears of a serial killer. Very proficient. Very lethal. He's taken out a few of her men already, so she dared to see just whom this man was.
And it was then she came face to face with the mass murderer himself. A man decorated in scars along his arms and chest, a sadistic smile trailing over his lips. His eyes had a murderous lust to them, but she could only smile back. He was perfect.
"Hello there, my name is Sona Xueen. Did you know you've been causing me a lot of trouble lately?" she hummed, resting a hand on her chin.
The man advanced slowly his curiosity piqued. Why wasn't she afraid of him? Why wasn't she running?
"Hmm..." he looked her over, a glimmer of a knife in his hand, "Aren't you cute~ what would bring a vulnerable, sweet, young woman all teh way out here~?"
She grinned even wider, "I have a proposition for you... you work for me, you get paid, and you get to kill more than just junkies and my men for a living... work for me and you'll never have to live in filth again! You'll be able to live out any perverted violent fantasy you set your sights on!"
He paused, glancing over the other, then at the knife. After a long train of thought he tossed the knife to the side.
"What'cha got in mind boss?" he chuckled, a dark tone to his voice.
"How does targeting corporate heads sound? They've been very, very naughty, and I think it's about time we send those pig headed shits packing," she smirked.
The other's eyes widened, "A challenge~? I like it!"
"What's your name?"
"Victor. Victor Zsasz,"
She was twenty one.
She now stands at the epiphany of her career. There are ten corporate heads that need to roll, and five have already crumbled. There are five left to snuff out. She grins at the thought. The thought that her revenge will not only satisfy the violent lust in her stomach, but that there will never be children that are forced to go through what she had. Parents will never have to suffer losing their children. Parents will never be forced to resort to extreme measures to ensure their safety and well being. People won't have to die over a system designed to kill them.
She coughs. Her chest hurts. A pain shoots through her entire body. She's surprised she's lived this long. Perhaps it's spite? Or anger? Perhaps it's her wanting to live just a bit longer so she can spend time with the friends she's made along the way.
She feels a hand on her shoulder as she's lifted into a strong pair of arms. It's Victor. He wears a goofy smile as he always does around her. She lets out a satisfied sigh. For now everything is okay. For now everything is normal. One day she'll die. One day Victor will make sure that he's the one to do it. He's vowed. He's promised.
She's somehow made it to thirty.
That's basically everything I have on her so far! I have a few comics planned to go into detail of her relationships with some of the rouges she's closer to. Like Victor as her lover and weapon, Riddler as her informant and occasional sex partner, Mr. Freeze as her father figure, Penguin as a very dear close friend, and her strange friendship with Jim Gordon because of his father saving her life. There's a lot of puzzle pieces I'd rather fill in with art and pictures rather than story format, but I hope you enjoy her lore!
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Hello! May I request the pneumonia square on your bthb card for Dick with Bruce taking care of him?
Thanks for the request!
Pneumonia - read on AO3
Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: Batman (Comics), Batman and Robin (Comics) Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Bruce Wayne & Dick Grayson, Bruce Wayne & Damian Wayne, Dick Grayson & Damian Wayne Characters: Bruce Wayne, Dick Grayson, Damian Wayne Additional Tags: bruce wayne centric, Dick grayson centric, Sickfic, Pneumonia, Blood, Stitches, Dick Grayson is Batman, Damian Wayne is Robin, Bruce Wayne is Batman, Protective Bruce Wayne, Protective Damian Wayne, Sick/hurt Dick Grayson, mentions past passive suicidal attempt, Dick Grayson Needs a Hug, Bruce Wayne Needs a Hug, what a surprise they hug each other Series: Part 9 of Bad Things Happen Bingo Summary:
Bruce hasn't been sure where he stands in sons' lives after returning from the timestream, but a case of pneumonia provides an excuse to sort some things out.
Full story under cut
Bruce only meant to drop by briefly, hand off some papers, and be on his way. He wasnât exactly sure what made him pause in front of the display case.
Well. That wasnât exactly true. He did know. How could he not know by the way his eyes gravitated towards the hood on the back of the Robin suitâs cape. By the way his heart sank at the sight of it.
He still thought it unnecessary â a distraction in the fight â it could easily obscure vision. He would have never allowed his partners to wear one.
And that was the trouble, wasnât it? Damian wasnât his partner, the hood a visual reminder. Dick knew Damianâs abilities better than anyone, knew whether or not the hood was appropriate. He trusted Dickâs judgment â no â had to rely on it when it came to his youngest.
Heâd considered stepping in at first, but it made sense to keep Dick and Damian as partners â they worked well together, provided results. Damian rarely got along with anyone else⌠and that was changing under Dickâs mentorship. Gotham was doing well, crime rates were dropping, and public approval had risen significantly. By all accounts, Batman and Robin were doing an excellent job.
It was an odd feeling, to be surpassed by your son, at wearing the mantle you created.
It was an odd feeling, to be surpassed by your son, in being loved by your youngest. To have missed out on so much, to have been dead a year and come back with things running (mostly) smoothly, as if the world hadnât really needed him anyways. He couldnât quite tell if it was humbling or humiliating when he heard whispers from officers of the new Batman being better than the old one.
But if there was one thing he was sure of, it was-
The walls of the bunker shook slightly, the floor trembling beneath his feet as the roar of an engine reverberated through the entrance tunnel. Swept out of his thoughts, he swiftly placed the stack of documents by the main computer and doubled back to his car.
He didnât plan on being here long, wasnât keen on talking â he had the computer back at the manor running narrowing down possible combinations for one of Riddlerâs games â heâd already lingered much to long.
With that thought, he opened the door his of car, giving a brief nod of acknowledgement as Dick entered on his bike. Dick didnât wave back â he always waved when he saw him â unless something was wrong â or maybe he hadnât seen him â that was the logical answer â
But Bruce still found himself frozen in place, his pulse increasing, heart leaping into his throat as Dick got closer, his mind scrutinizing every detail he could see â the way Dick was hunched over too much â his posture was normally perfect, his left arm was wrapped around his middle â Bruce slammed his car door shut, jogging forward as Dick parked.
âWhatâs wrong?â He reached up, pulling off the damn cowl, revealing tired watery, reddish eyes. Dick blinked, frowning, his eyes adjusting to the light.
âNothing.â He pulled back, refusing Bruceâs arm, dismounting the bike himself. The cape obscured whatever Dick was putting pressure on. Dick strode forward, his shoulder squared as he started up the stairs. He felt oddly small looking up at the stark silhouette â and he had to wonder â was this how his kids felt when staring up at his back?
And then Dick succumbed to a nasty coughing fit halfway up the stairs. Bruce bolted up beside him, offering an arm again, swiftly finding blood trickling from a deep gash on his side. Instinctively he tore off a piece of his shirt, pressing it to the wound. Dick looked at him judgmentally, speaking through coughs.
âIf you â waited like -â He doubled over again, pausing their trip up the stairs. He put up a hand, as Bruce moved in to simply carry him up the rest of the way. â- mâ fine.â Dick sucked in a shallow breath and they continued on. â â didnât have to ruin your shirt. We have gauze.â He mumbled as they reached the top.
Bruce looked down at his shirt, then back at Dick, feeling like a dumbass, but nonetheless glad he hadnât left him behind. âYou would have fallen down the stairs.â He noted, before moving onto the more pressing matter. âWere you gassed? Poisoned? Dick, repo-â
âIâm-â Dick cut him off, only for Damian to drop from the rafters, dramatically landing a few feet away.
âHeâs been ill.â He crossed his arms in annoyance, pouting in his pajama pants, wearing an oversized shirt heâd sworn heâd gotten for Dick years ago. âAnd insisted on benching me even though I am perfectly capable of-â
âDamian, youâre supposed to be in-â Dick stumbled over his own feet â another alarm going off in his mind â Dick was normally graceful. Bruce was tired of this â he made eye contact with Damian, nodding towards their medical closet.
âGrab gauze and a suturing kit.â He commanded, Damian scurrying off ahead. He slipped his free hand beneath Dickâs knees, scooping him up â rushing him the rest of the way to the table as Dick succumbed to a hacking fit. Memories from years ago bubbled in the back of his mind, from a time Dick was smaller, in a brightly colored costume, fading quickly in his arms after a run in with Harvey Dent.
He couldnât call for Alfred this time. He was halfway across the world assisting Kate, spending well deserved time with his daughter.
Biting back the panic, he did his best to gently set him down, but Dick was heavier than he used to be, and he was a bit older himself. Bruce cringed as Dick hit the table with a bit of a thud â though it seemed Dick hardly noticed â but Damian hissed in disapproval.
âSorry.â Dick murmured, once he caught his breath, sounding far away â as if standing on the other end of a tunnel. Bruce couldnât tell if he was spacing out, or if Dick was simply quiet, either way, he ignored the interruption, holding out a hand.
Damian materialized beside him placing the kit in his hands before pressing clean gauze to Dickâs. Bruce yanked off the costume in tandem. Neither spoke as they worked like a well-oiled machine, Bruce sewing up the wound as Damian kept Dick still. He could fix this â it wasnât like before â the cut wasnât too bad, he had the skills â he just needed to focus.
Bruce fought to keep his hands steady, as he tied off the end. Dick stared aimlessly at the ceiling, beads of sweat forming on his forehead, rolling down the side of his face and dripping in his eyes. Damian kept him propped upright, from atop the other side of the table.
Dick paused to cough for a moment, Damian pounding his back with furious eyes, as if he was attacking the congestion himself. âDonât tear the stiches.â Bruce chided, Damian glared, but lightened his taps. Bruce held Dick by the shoulders until he was ready to continue.
Moments later, the bandage was applied, and Bruce scanned for more injuries.
âThat was it, Iâm fine.â Dick muttered, though Bruce couldnât tear his eyes away â he could feel the blood on his hands â drying at the edges, slimy under his latex gloves. Dick was too pale, too warm to the touch, too- âQuit looking at me like I died.â He grumbled exasperatedly, his voice painfully horse. The tone snapped Bruce out of his inspection. âIâm fine.â
He turned to Damian â because at least one of his kids was being honest. âHow long has he been sick?â He turned, grabbing a thermometer off a shelf.
âSince last Monday.â He replied, critically scanning Dick as well, shifting his weight uncomfortably.
Dick scoffed at the remark, looking offended. âLiar, that was just allergies.â He reached up, moving to ruffle Damianâs hair â unsuccessful, Damian easily dodging the attempt.
âObviously, it was more than just allergies, seeing as youâre still under the weather.â He rolled his eyes. âLikely something viral, the flu perhaps?â
Bruce gave Dick a pointed look, cocking an eyebrow. âYou know better than to go out while sick.â Thatâs how people get killed, how Dick could have gotten killed, how he would have been left to bleed out on the floor if he hadnât been there, how â
âI thought Iâd turned the corner.â Dickâs tone was cool, but his eyes were laser focused on him â he had this way of looking at people, as if he was staring into your soul. âI felt fine when I left.â
âHe was doing better earlier.â Damian begrudgingly mentioned, taking some small amount of pity on his brother. He gazed up quizzically, matching Dickâs expression. Bruce shifted his gaze between the two sets of searching eyes.
A moment passed in silence. The weight in his hand finally reminding him of his purpose, he stuck the ear thermometer in Dickâs ear.
âI can do the rest myself.â Dick noted, placing a hand atop the thermometer as well â which Bruce subsequently ignored.
âMmm.â He noted, checking the temperature. âAlmost hundred and three. And you felt fine enough to go out?â He asked, dropping notes of disbelief into his voice. Dick gazed back at him, unamused.
âI meant what I said. It was only supposed be a stakeout anyways.â Irritation was clear, despite his scratchy tone. Damian hoped off the table behind him. âYouâve gone out way worse than this!â Dick broke into raspy coughs, Bruce catching his shoulders.
âIâm going to prepare tea.â Damian muttered, dashing up the stairs, leaving him alone with the sound of Dickâs wheezing.
âAny other symptoms?â Bruce grabbed a stethoscope, snapping a pulse oximeter to Dickâs index finger. âBe honest.â He reminded, Dick avoiding his gaze.
âBruce, you donât seriously think I would have gone out if-â
âI know you know your limits.â He acknowledged. He also knew his family (and occasionally himself) liked pretending the limits werenât there. He slipped the stethoscope against Dickâs chest, listening to his lungs. âBreath in.â Something crackled deep in his lungs. âChest x-ray.â Bruce noted.
âIsnât that a bit extreme?â If Bruce closed his eyes, he could pretend it was 9-year-old Dick, complaining about having to be swabbed for strep throat.
âIf Iâm right, no.â Dick unhappily mimicked his voice. Bruce cocked an eyebrow, giving him an unamused stare. âA list of symptoms would help.â
âI hate it when youâre like this â just tell me what you think.â Dick slid off the table. Bruce caught him by the shoulders, they were burning up. Dick shivered, shaking underneath his hands.
âI think you already know.â He slipped an arm under his sonâs shoulders, slowly walking him towards the machine. âShortness of breath, coughing, wheezing, fever, chills, recently viral illness. Chest pain likely.â
Dick groaned. âItâs just a cold.â Bruce pulled a blanket a nearby shelf, wrapping it around his shoulders. âIâll be fine with a good nightâs sleep. You donât have to do this; Iâll go to Leslieâs tomorrow.â
âDick.â He sighed exasperatedly. They could do the x-ray here or drive to the clinic at 2am.
âDonât, Dick, me. You have stuff to do, thanks for stitching me up but I can handle myself, I thought you were supposed to-â
âRichard.â Dick paused for a moment. Bruce took it as an opportunity to half carry him the rest of the way to the machine. âIâll take a culture when this is done and send it to Leslie. I donât mind.â
Dick hesitated before responding. âFine.â
A few aspirin, couple of tests, and a trip to Leslieâs later, Bruce found himself walking in through the front door of the penthouse, antibiotics in hand. He nearly tripped over Damianâs sneakers, scattered carelessly in the little mud room. Kicking of his own shoes, he moved the little sneakers to the shoe rack, struck for a moment by how small they were.
Making his way into the living room, he found Dick, half asleep on the caramel-colored couch. He clicked off the television, turning off some nature show, Dickâs attention pivoting to him.
âYou came back?â He whispered, almost too quiet to hear, but surprise evident all the same â eyes widening, jaw dropping, before he caught himself and returned to a blank expression. Bruce nodded, passing him the medication before settling in a nearby armchair. Two empty mugs sat on the low table, rich aroma still lingering in the air (ginger if his nose was right), though Damian was nowhere to be seen.
His eyes lingered on the mugs â they were handmade, one in the Batman color scheme, the other matching the Robin costume. Heâd taken a sculpting class with Dick years ago; theyâd made similar ones together. Dickâs was likely in pieces, lost under the rubble of his old apartment, and Tim accidentally knocked his off a table years ago. He tore his eyes away â it made since for Dick to carry on the tradition with his Robin, he just⌠regretted never making another.
He watched as Dick fumbled with the container, his heart sinking at the uncoordinated attempts to twist off the lid. Bruce swiped it back, popping off the lid, and passing him a pill along with a bottle of water.
The surprise in Dickâs voice weighed on his mind â surely â Dick didnât expect for him to leave him alone in such a state? Yes â he knew Dick was an adult â knew he could take care of himself â but Alfred wasnât around if he took a turn for the worse, he couldnât just leave that for Damian. Worry crept into the pit of his stomach, Alfred had been gone weeks, were there more illnesses Dick hadnât been reporting? More injuries? Why? Because he didnât think he would care? He didnât want to burden Damian? He was too busy to-
âBruce, quit brooding, I was just surprised you got back so fast.â Dick spoke slowly in carefully low tones, scooting back into a sitting position on the further end of the couch. Curling into a ball, he wrapped the blanket heâd grabbed early tighter, shivering under it. Internally, Bruce cringed at the sight before turning back to his thoughts.
âHmm.â That wasnât what Dick said, or why he was surprised. âYou didnât think I was coming back.â It came out more statement than question. Dick coughed lightly, avoiding a response. âIâd like to know why.â
Dick shrugged, too timed to be nonchalant. âYou have casework to do.â He wouldnât meet his gaze, busying himself pulling the blanket even tighter around his shoulders. âIâm an adult. I can handle being sick.â
âI know.â He hummed disbelievingly, his worry growing â Dick had a knack for lying â he really wasnât feeling well if he was this easy to read. âYou know I wouldnât-â
âDonât.â Dick warned, cutting him off with a glare. âIf Alfred was here, youâd already be gone.â There was an edge of bitterness to his voice, a knowing look in his eyes.
âIâŚâ <em>Havenât visited in weeks because I feel strange around you and Damian,</em> his mind supplied helpfully.
âI know it hurts to see yourâŚâ Dick paused for a moment, catching his breath. âFamily like this. Just donât try to deny it, you disappear every time I get hurt.â <em>Or kick you me out,</em> went unsaid.
Bruce threw an arm over his eyes, taking a moment to lean back against the recliner. For so long, heâd been focused on just getting back to the present, getting back to his kids. But⌠coming back meant facing up to the times heâd been less than a good father⌠or older brother⌠whatever he and Dick had all those years ago.
He took a moment, examining a few memories, his behavior after the Two-Face case, the time Dick was shot in the shoulder, even how heâd acted the first few weeks Dick was at the manor â relentlessly pursuing justice rather than spend time with his ward. It was no secret to most he had regrets. Heâd changed since then â never acted like that with Jason. Didnât disappear after Timâs father died. Heâd changed, but he never â
âIâm sorry.â They stared at each other, speaking in tandem. Bruceâs jaw dropped as Dick continued.
âLook, Iâm sorry I didnât live up to your standards, I know I disappointed you tonight, I shouldnât have brought the past up, you donât have to stay-â His words came out hurriedly, rushed and pained.
âDick.â Bruce hadnât thought his heart could sink any lower, but somehow, it dropped to the bottom of his gut, his throat closing uncomfortably.
âIâm doing my best, I thought Iâd be fine, I just really needed information tonight and I couldnât go out tomorrow because I need to help Tim, and now Iâm going to have to call in Steph, and Barbaraâs gonna be upset, and Timâll be mad, and itâs Damianâs first week of school, I took him out of homeschool because you wanted him to go to Gotham Academy, but he hates it and he wonât go to bed on time, and I have a board meeting in the morning Iâm not prepared for-â
âRichard.â Bruce tried to interrupt, but Dick was rambling, his hands shaking as he pressed one to his forehead, his voice growing frantic. Bruce moved to sit next to the mugs.
â-I know Iâm letting you down, you came back to a mess and Iâm still trying to get everything settled, and Jasonâs still loose god knows where, and I canât take three steps off this couch without feeling like Iâm about to collapse and now Iâm taking up your time too for nothing because Iâm fine and I can handle this and you should just go back to your case because itâs more important and-â
âRichard John Grayson.â He squeezed Dickâs shoulder, waiting for him to meet his eyes. âIâm sorry.â Dick bit his lip, face flushed. Bruce froze, not sure where to go from here. He had more to say, but for some reason, he couldnât speak. Dick blinked, tears forming in the corners of his eyes, and for a moment Bruce could pretend he was eight years old again â and just like that, he knew what to do.
Leaning forward, he wrapped Dick in a hug, gently patting his back (hopefully breaking some mucus loose). Alarm bells rang in his mind â Dick was warm â too warm, but he ignored them, just holding his son steady as his ragged breath went smooth.
âIâm sorry I didnât stick around before, I know better now, and Iâll stay this time if youâll let me.â He paused, gathering his thoughts, releasing Dick back against a stack of pillows. He dropped his elbows to his knees, letting his head drop into his hands. He could fix this.
âYouâve done better than I could have imagined, given the circumstances. Better than I did when I was your age.â He ran Dickâs words through his mind again. âIâll stay until youâre well. Iâll talk to Tim and Barbara. Iâll figure out where Jason went. Iâll talk to Damian about school, though you might have better luck than me on that one-â
âYouâre kidding me he listened to you perfectly earlier.â Dick muttered, tucking his chin between his knees.
â-only because we had a shared goal, and that goal was assisting you.â Bruce continued. âIâll call Lucius, get him to reduce your hours. I-we can fix this. JustâŚâ his voice caught in his throat. âGet well soon.â Dick, well he was right, it was painful to see him so worn out. It seemed⌠unnatural, seeing him sick, though heâd seen him ill plenty of times before.
Dick glanced at him, then dropped his gaze, fidgeting with the corner of a little throw blanket. âIâm being pathetic. Bruce. Iâm sorry, I can handle this.â He looked back up, determination swimming in his bleary blue eyes. âYou donât need to stay.â
Bruce sighed exasperatedly. âI know. Do you remember the time I got mono? Back when you were a kid?â Dick thought for a moment before nodding.
âAlfred wouldnât let you leave your room. We played Uno.â He noted.
âAnd Go-Fish, checkers, chess, and every other game we own. And Clark and Lucius covered for me for two months. And I hated staying put but playing games with you made time fly.â He leaned forward, slipping an arm around Dick, pulling him up again, and heading towards his room. âIâll let you in on a secret. I would have cut the recovery time in half if I didnât escape out the window two weeks in. Dick⌠you arenât letting me down if you let me cover for you, consider it payback.â
Dick gasped dramatically, only to let out a few weak coughs. âYou didnât! âŚActually, I already knew. Alfred and I picked you up after you got your ass kicked, remember?â He shook his head. âI know itâs stupid to go out sick, I saw you do it and I hated it I wouldnât do that to Damian or you.â He paused, leaving them in uncomfortable silence. âUh. No offense. Just⌠you believe me, right? I wouldnât have gone out if I thought I wouldnât come back.â
Bruce paused, giving Dick a long look. Memories of Supermanâs panicked call coming over his comms, Dick rushing into nuclear wastelands without protection. Theyâd come a long way since then, Dick had come a long way in the year heâd been gone. âI believe you.â
Dick let out a long breath as they turned into his bedroom. âOkay.â Bruce propped pillows as Dick faceplanted into bed.
âSleep well.â He murmured, throwing the comforter over him. Dick turned, shooting him a half smile, not making any moves towards the nice stack of pillows. He clicked on a humidifier on his way towards the door, shutting off the lights as he left. âIâm proud of you.â
As he closed the door, leaving it open just a crack, he heard a tired voice whisper âThanks.â
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A thing of honour
Warning: This one got super angsty super fast and I had no idea how it happened but here we are Word count: ~3k (sis snapped) Summary: Keeping your alter ego a secret from Damian was all fun and games, especially since he seemed to hate your superhero persona while loving your "normal" you, but what happenes when he finds out about the whole thing in the worst way possible...
This was a request by a wonderous Anon:Â Hiii, iâd like to request a damian x reader, where the reader also fights alongside damian and jon as their alter ego. Damian and the reader donât get along as superheroes, but as their normal selves they do. The only one who doesnât know of the other personâs identity is Damian, which makes it all even more amusing for jon and the reader. But when the reader is brought back to the batcave after being injured, he finds out. Ty đ
You hadn't meant for it to go this far. Really, you didn't. You had wanted to tell him as soon as possible, but then Jon had told you about how he talked about you-well, about your alter-ego- behind your back. But to be fair, it didn't keep on being behind your back for long, even though Damian didn't know that. "Tt, she'd do us all a favour if she'd stay at home," Damian grumbled when the muted Tv in the corner of the small coffee shop that he, Jon and you visited frequently, showed a picture of Ace, or rather you in your vigilante outfit (kindly donated by your god-aunt Diana who supported you with everything you did and was the reason you were now best friends with Jon and Damian's girlfriend). You couldn't help but roll your eyes. "What's your problem with her anyways? Shouldn't you be thankful that she helped you?" you sighed while picking at your piece of pie with the fork. You could feel Jon's knowing look on you, but you paid it no mind. "I could have very well handled it without her, she was just a bother anyways," he huffed and you couldn't help but chuckle a bit. He'd eat his words sooner or later. "I was on a case with her earlier that month and I really thought she was great. She has fighting skills on the same level as Diana, don't you think so too Y/N?" Jon sent you a bright, great smile and you could've sworn he winked at you. "I'm not sure I'd go that far," you answered with a small smirk and shrugged your shoulders, "It's not like I've seen her in action yet anyways, only know her on Tv and from what you guys tell me." Damian looked between the two of you slightly confused and highly annoyed, but you were sure that he wouldn't be able to put two and two together. For him, you were his sweet, but otherwise defenceless girlfriend that couldn't knock a two-year-old out and, to be fair, for the first years of your relationship that was exactly what you were. A normal girl in love with the great detective's son and best friend with Superman's. But then Diana (after years upon years of begging) took you with her to Themyscira and there something changed. Obviously you wouldn't be able to learn to fight in the two weeks you'd stay there, but somehow, after watching Diana train with the other Amazons, you felt like your muscles were burning with energy and every fibre of your being was urging to fight. Diana almost lost her mind when you stormed onto the training field, afraid that you'd get hurt on her watch, but she froze in her tracks when she saw you defeating one of the amazons as if you've been fighting for all your life. That's how you found out that somehow you had the power to copy the fighting style of anyone you watched. When you came back from your trip you spend a good three months watching every piece of realistic fighting that you could get your hand on and soon you were, in terms of fighting without powers, even besting Diana. Even though you knew you would never seriously be able to defeat her it was still a good feeling to know you were pretty good. So you became Ace. At first, it was great and you liked being a hero more than you ever thought you did, but soon you started feeling bad for keeping such a big secret from your best friends, especially knowing that they had told you about their secret as soon as they completely trusted you. So you had been planning to tell them when Jon called you to whine about Damian annoying him about some new vigilante who he had seen fighting in "his area" earlier that week. The look on your face when you realized that it had to be you. That was when a wicked thought planted itself in your head. Not soon after you had told Jon- and Jon being Jon, soon his family new about you and your plan too and that somehow ended in Damian's family knowing about both too. That's how you ended up being in the situation you were right now. Jon sitting there, having to hold back laughter and Damian being as clueless as ever. Did you feel bad about basically lying to him? Yes, somewhat you did. Was it really funny? Yes, yes it really really was. "But anyways," you restarted the conversation, finally taking a bite out of your abused cake, "I read somewhere recently that she was working with Batman against the Riddler two weeks ago." You smiled at the memory of how petrified you had been when your boyfriend father caught you running through Gotham, hunting after the Riddler, and how amazing it was to fight alongside him after he told you that he trusted Diana's judgement and would welcome you to become an ally to his team(/family), especially considering your relationship to Damian, but he also respected your "prank" and that you'd keep your distance until you'd finally tell him. "Tt, he wouldn't have needed her anyways. Especially not if I'd been there, but just because I lightly stab Jason once, I have to stay at home for patrol," he pouted and, even though you couldn't help smiling at his cluelessness, you also couldn't help yourself from giving him a small peck on the corner of his still pouting lip, making a small blush crawl onto his face at your PDA. "Uhm," Jon, who was still always extremely awkward at seeing the two of you kiss or- god forbid- actually make out, even though he himself called himself your biggest shipper, stammered, "H-hey Damian if your father works with her, why don't you ask him who she is?" His eyes widened as soon as the words left his mouth and he had to actively look away from you because he thought that he'd maybe start to cry if he'd saw the fury filled glare you sent his way. "Don't you think I did?" Damian huffed but didn't notice your angry eyes. "A-and what'd he say?" "He said it wasn't 'his secret to share,'" he scoffed, underlining how ridiculous he thought it was by making air-quotes. "But anyway, what did you guys plan on doing this weekend? I've heard there a really cool new movie in theatres right now. Damian's treat?"
It was two weeks after the conversation in the coffee shop when your guilt about keeping such a big secret from your boyfriend slowly started eating you up from inside. The fact that the movie's side story was about the main character and his love interest almost losing each other forever because of a secret that stood between that didn't really help much, did it now? So you've been planning how to do it for hours when your phone vibrated and twitter notification showed you that Robin was seen on his way through Gotham, most likely on patrol. It was really a short circuit reaction to get into your suit and jump out your window into the direction of where you thought the picture might have been taken. You were almost put off by how quickly you found him. Maybe it was because of how well you knew him, but it still surprised you to no end. "I heard you had something you have a bone to pick with me," you said, having no real plan on how to handle this. Damian span around at an unbelievable pace and you would have certainly been cut by the Batarang that was thrown your way, had it not been Diana's extra training in the area of "people will definitely throw sharp objects your way when you least expect it". For a second your eyes stayed on the Batarang that you held in your hand until they wandered back up at your unknowing boyfriend who looked at you like you were evil as a person. "Listen, I don't want to fight you, we're on the same team, remember?" you tried to somewhat clear the water. "Tt, you're nowhere near my team. You're just a little girl who thinks she can play superhero." "Okay, isn't that a little sexist?" you couldn't help the snarky comment, "And nevertheless, I've defeated real criminals, I've helped the city. What's your damn problem with me anyway. What have I ever done to upset you?" Your voice was raising and you were slightly afraid that he could recognize your voice, now not being too sure if you actually wanted him to know who you were anymore. "You're just an imposter. Don't you think I've noticed that your fighting style, as multifaceted as it may be, is just an exact copy of other peoples, mainly Wonder Women? Does she know that she has a seemingly shameless copycat running around?" You took a small step back out of surprise. He had never talked with your persona before and he still figured you out like an open book. You were fascinated and at the same time extremely annoyed and angry at his lack of empathy and him not even trying to find out who you were. "So what? Do I have to have my own style just to fight crime? Is it wrong of me to try and help people?" "It's a thing of hono-" "Oh shut the hell up and get that giant stick out of your ass," you huffed and made a sweeping gesture, "This city needs all the help it can get. Hell, this world needs all the help it can get! So excuse me for trying to be part of this help." You saw that he wanted to say something, but you didn't let him. "And if you are so invested in my honour, I have you know that Wonder Women is well aware of my fighting style! She was the one who thought it too me after all." With that, you turned around and jumped off of the building onto the balcony below it, keeping on climbing down the building until you were on the ground. All the frustration inside you made you feel your bone ache with the tears that you held in, while you stormed through the allies of Gotham, only stopping when you stood in front of an abandoned warehouse that was a hotspot for crime, that you'd usually keep away from, but right now you needed a ventile to get the anger out of you. When you entered, it was completely empty. "Well, so much for that," you muttered to yourself. You turned around, ready to leave and look somewhere else when you felt something pierce simultaneously through your back and your stomach. Your breath hitched in pain and shock when you looked down to see the tip of a short sword or a long knife standing out of your abdomen. "What a shame, I had planned for that to enter someone else's body. Too bad," a male voice echoed through the large empty hall, followed by the sound of a closing door. For a moment you thought about trying to follow him, but when you slightly turned around and the pain shot through you, you decided against it. You had to get medical attention. And that as soon as possible.
You had no idea how, but somehow, as unlikely as it seemed, you had managed to end up at the manor, your suit drenched with your own blood and every step painfully. The world was spinning around you and there were more black points in your sight than the actual world. With the last energy you could manage to gather, you pushed the doorbell and managed to stand straight while waiting for it to open. "Miss Y/L/N, what a surprise to see you here, especially in this attire. It is not wise to come in this way when you're wearing this," he welcomed you with a scolding look, not noticing the silver blade that was still stuck in your stomach, in his eyes, your mask seemingly covering how pale, tired and lifeless you already looked. Even if you were still awake enough to think straight, you wouldn't exactly have been surprised by him knowing who you were. He was still looking at you expectedly when you suddenly dropped forward against Alfred, managing with the last of your lifeforce to keep your stomach back a bit as to not to stab him with the tip of the long knife. The Butler tried to steady you by draping his arm around you when he suddenly took in a sharp breath as he felt the warm liquid that was your blood cover his hand and forearm, and his hand touching the handle of the weapon that might cause your ultimate demise. As quick as possible he picked you up, careful to keep your stomach as straight as possible so that the knife wouldn't cause more damage than necessary, and brought you down into the Batcave, not paying any mind to Damian who was sitting in the seat in front of the Batcomputer, sharpening his Katanas. Alfred carefully laid you down onto one of the medical beds on your side, quickly pulled up your medical file and sorted through one of their emergency 'blood-banks' to give you a transfusion. By the time he had you connected to all the medical machines- he was extremely quick after years of training, Damian came rushing to his side. He had a worried look on his face until he caught sight of your suit. "What is she-" "We have no time for that. Call Dr. Thompkins! Now!" Damian didn't dare to oppose Alfred's command and quickly did as he told before he came back to Alfred who did his best to keep you alive, your heartbeat way too slow. "She's on her way, I told her it was urgent," Damian grumbled. He was, of course, somewhat worried about you- well, about Ace- but seeing his object of daily annoyment laying there in front of him, basically dead, he couldn't help but feel validated in his hate towards her. That was until Alfred took your mask off to check your reaction towards light to see if you were still responsive. Damian could hear his heart break and stop when he saw who he felt was maybe the love of his life lay there, hair dull and dishevelled around your head, skin almost wide and your face so lifeless. His brain couldn't comprehend what was going on and it was like time froze. He only started to realize anything was happening again when he felt his father's arm pull him away from where Dr. Thompkins, who he hadn't even notice coming in, and Alfred closed the makeshift medical curtain to start operating you. Damian looked up at Bruce, his tearstained cheeks still wet, no sign of his eyes stopping to cry anytime soon, and saw the look in his eyes. That look of sorriness. That look of hopelessness. That look like he was sure, that you wouldn't make it out of the cave alive.
The tension in the cave was so explosive that no one dared to say a word. Besides the members of the Batfamily that were gathered there, Diana was pacing through the room and Jon and Clark were silent beside their best friends- Clark with a hand on Bruce's shoulder and Jon holding Damian's hand, another thing no one dared to speak about, not budging at the strength of his grin that would break a normal humans hand. It was nothing against what he had to endure when he had first entered the cave. A completely livid and messy, tired-looking Damian came at him, pushing his chest while screaming at him, asking him if he knew. When Jon didn't answer, just a look of extreme guilt in his eyes, Damian snapped. It took Clark and Bruce together too rip him off of his best friend who just stood there and silently took every blow. When Damian had finally calmed down, his eyes slowly watering again, Jon dared too move closer to him, his worry over his best friend greater than the shame he felt for being- in his eyes- partly responsible for your state. Damian, who deep inside knew that it wasn't Jon's fault- that it wasn't anyone's fault but the persons who had thrown that knife- clutched onto his best friend and cried onto his shoulder, which was all it took for Jon to break and the tears to roll down his cheeks too. When it felt like they were both dry of tears they sat down, hand in hand. With Diana, it wasn't too different, just less violent. She came rushing in and demanded to see you. When Bruce made it clear that you were still operated on, she wanted to storm out of the cave and comb through the city for the person who was responsible for that. Bruce somehow managed to talk her out of it, but he knew that she wouldn't be the only one who'd started wreaking havoc when Dr. Thompkins came out of the medical area with the bad news he already expected. He just hoped he would manage to be a good father for Damian when it'd count most. Almost nine hours of nearly complete silence had passed before Alfred came to them, still in his scrubs. Everyone stopped what they were doing and you could've heard a pin drop. "She's through and will make it. No permanent damage, but she won't be able to do any physical straining activities for the next few months. It was a very close shot." A collective breath of relief went through the room and a lot of tense shoulders relaxed. "Can I- Can we see her?" Damian's voice, that was so much timider than anyone was used to, asked and Alfred could see the desperation on his face. "Yes, but she probably won't wake up very soon. Her body is thoroughly and utterly exhausted." Damian didn't care. He sat beside your bed for the next two days. The others would come in for a while, either to make sure Damian isn't completely alone or to be with you but left after a few hours, not being able to abandon their lives forever. It was around midnight, Jon and Clark had just left to get back to Smallville for a change of clothes and a goodnight sleep in their own beds a few hours ago when Damian shot up from being half-asleep at the sound of a groan echoing through the empty room. His eyes looked around frantically, searching for any sort of danger when a small cough turned his attention to you. Your eyes were still closed but your face was pinched together in pain. "Hey," Damian whispered and took hold of your hand, his demeanour easing a bit when you pressed it. "Dami?" you whispered back with a coarse voice and slowly your eyes fluttered open. When you saw into his face, worry and sorrow marked onto it, you couldn't help the tears from welling up, everything that had happened and the realization of almost losing everything came crashing down onto you. "Shhhh, it's okay, everything okay," Damian mumbled soothingly and quickly sat onto the side of your bed to take you into his arms. For the last 48 hours, he had imagined every sort of conversation about why you didn't tell him about your alter ego, about how you could've been so careless, about why you even became a vigilante when you knew how dangerous it was, but at that moment he realized that all that was unimportant. Of course, he'd have to talk about it with you sooner or later, but after almost losing you, the fact that you were still there in his arms was the most he could want.
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Game 21: Batman The Telltale Series: The Enemy Within To say Telltale got around when it came to licenses is an understatement. One of the biggest reasons it fail was because it was always taking on too many projects, and for a long time, I thought it was because Telltale didnât actually care about making a good choice system or care about the material at hand. On revisit, I have found time and time again, the opposite is indeed true. Telltale crafts a lot of these stories well, and try to help set up their own versions of characters, plots, and world building. While The Enemy Within is a great example of Telltale creating something new from old, it sadly still has a lot of technical problems and decision issues that plague itâs otherwise great tale. Enemy Within being effectively the second season of the Telltale Batman universe, we are given a small glimpse of what happened and what choices we made during the first game. Aside from a few off handed mentions in the first episode, the choices you made in the first game just feel irrelevant after the fact, and the choices that did matter, matter very little. This isnât much of a testament of the choice system in this game, as it kinda has a similar, but different problem. The majority of choices in Enemy Within just donât really feel they impact much or really feel like conflicting choices. Most of the choices seen either contribute to an overall relationship dynamic or just feel so weighted one way that itâs a clear choice for most people to go with the other option, often leaving 70/30 polls at the end of these episodes. On the technical side of things, Enemy Within does look better than itâs previous season, but sometimes models can feel a bit off pending on movement timing. Fighting has been far more refined to feel like a fighting sequence, but there is still a lot of one missed key deaths that have seemed to cause Telltale to increase the leeway on key accusation instead of Heavy Rainâs far more interesting flown combat script system. It does feel like Enemy With takes 1 step forward tho and 2 steps back; as they have a number of fights that do feel pretty stunning to actually playthrough compared to the stilt action of most telltale games. Detective work is pretty much thrown away after the first episode too, as the second season is far more interested in a certain dynamic more than anything else.
Relationship dynamics are always the most interesting part of telltale gameâs as the iconic, â____ will remember thatâ is often a trope found in a lot of them. So, of course, the iconic duo, Joker and Batman would have a larger focus on their relationship dynamic compared to everyone else in this series. While Joker, aka John Doe, played a minimal role in the last season, he is brought in heavily for the second season. Perhaps what is the most compiling thing about John Doe and Batman is more so how there relationship dynamic can change so drastically pending on your actions as both Bruce or Batman, making the origins of Joker itself far more multiple choice, and either far more connected to Batman than before or someone that was simply a lost cause. While the relationship with Joker and Batman has always been a prominent dynamic in the series, it was never something that was established with Bruce/Batman having all the power. John Doe is honestly just a really mentality unstable patient that is looking for support, and in this way telltale actually makes us empathize with him. Not to say that their isnât other relationships or characters in this story that arenât interesting, as I do enjoy these versions of the Riddler and Harley compared to how we usually get them. Still every relationship takes a backseat to John Doe and Bruce/Batman, and really thatâs what makes this season far more interesting than the last.
While I donât think we will find this version of Telltaleâs Batman any time soon, I honestly enjoy my time with both games, and consider the overall experience a positive one. Any problems I had with this season were often minimal in comparison to the majority of Telltaleâs other works, and while I do think it was both enhanced and suffered from the focus of one relationship, I donât think I would trade that unique approach with the usual same old same old. Itâs both a testament to Telltaleâs writing skills and the staying power of these DC characters.
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DCâs Failed Shared Continuity
This is a subject that I see touched on a lot but not really addressed, so I wanted to break it down.
DCâs core comics (That is, Batman, Superman, Justice League, etc, and not the elseworld style books like DCeased or White Knight) are generally understood to be happening in a shared continuity. That is, what happens in one book reflects in the other. The series cross over, because they take place in the same universe.
Only that isnât true anymore.
There are a lot of plot holes that donât really make sense, but that isnât what I want to talk about. Instead, I want to talk about the fact that DC has absolutely no timeline, the absolute glut of events happening in and out of main books, and the fact that each DC comic is effectively its own universe, rather than shared between it.
Iâm going to address the following examples, just to give people an idea of whatâs going on and exactly what I mean when I talk about a shared continuity:
The fact that Alfred Pennyworthâs funeral happened before he died.
The fact that Bruce Wayne was in at least three places at once at the start of Perpetuaâs invasion.
DCâs insane event schedule through 2019.
The lack of impact events are having with the readers, such as the fact that fact that the entire of South America went to war, China engaged in mass orgies, and the entire of Britain stared at the sky for days on end and almost no reader has heard about it.
City of Baneâs complete lack of impact in the larger DC universe
And last but not least: Why does this matter, and where does DC go from here?
Alfredâs Funeral is before his Death:
Alfred Pennyworth dies during City of Bane. We see his funeral in Pennyworth: R.I.P., where we see the family come together and share stories before immediately getting into a slap fight over it.
This unquestionably happens after City of Bane, because City of Bane is when Alfred died. Despite this, Ric is still around:
That little note in the bottom left makes it clear that this happens before Nightwing Annual #2.
The majority of Annual #2 is a flashback, but it specifically ends with the Court of Owls telling Cobb (that is, Talon) that Dick will soon be his, and telling him to move in. This happens in Nightwing 63, when Cobb shows up (aided by Apex Lexâs gift), and starts screwing with Dickâs life. Iâll skip over the most of it: what matters is that Talon brainwashing Dick Grayson appears the same night Perpetuaâs symbol appears over the city (in Nightwing 66 and a number of other issues), Dick attacks the Nightwings, fights Condor Red, and then is freed from the mind control all in one night.
Which is great. Except this canât happen after Alfredâs death, because the symbol of Perpetua (which appears everywhere at once) appears over Gotham during City of Bane (in Batman 81):
So we have one event happening simultaneously in Nightwing and Batman, only one happens before/during Alfredâs death, and the other supposedly happens well after.
Which leads us into...
Batman apparently can be everywhere at once
So up above we have Batman 81. Bruce is, at this point, in the city rushing to beat Bane when the symbol pops up.
Hereâs the symbol popping up in Detective Comics (1014) while fighting the Freezes (the city, Iâll note, is normal Gotham at this point, not controlled by Bane):
Bruce is in Paris (in theory, after his coma) in Outsiders #6, and then arrives back in Gotham just in time for the symbol to appear in the sky in issue 7:
Even just while researching this, I realized that it happened in other issues too. The symbol appears in the sky in Batman/Superman issue 3 while Bruce is being attacked by the infected:
It also happens in Justice League, but I canât be bothered to get pages.
This is all taking place in a shared universe, so the fact that thereâs three or four different Bruceâs in three or four different books who are all doing completely different things in different areas is... baffling. DC has always played a bit fast and lose with Detective Comics and Batman, rarely defining which is happening first or what their exact order of events is, but this takes it a step beyond that.
It also leads into...
DC has how many events? and What happened to the infected?
2019 was a year. Specifically, it was the year of the Villain, but it really should have been year of the event, because DC had so many events happening almost concurrently that it was impossible to figure out what was going on when.
You had Heroes in Crisis running from late September 2018 to May 2019 (acknowledged in Batman, Flash, Green Arrow, Red Hood, and Titans, but largely inconsequential and rarely referenced again).
Year of the Villain itself spanned the whole year, with two dedicated series (YoTV and YoTV: Hell Arisen), a huge Justice League arc (14 issues!), literally dozens of tie in issues in main books, and 8 oneshots focusing on specific villains and their upgrades.Â
This also tied into The Infected storline, where the Batman who Laughs infected six heroes and sent them out into the universe to torment people. This, too, got a number of oneshots and tie-in issues.
You had Event Leviathan, a six issue series which then got a spinoff and soon a sequel through the second half of 2019, which promised to âstretch across the DC universe and touch every characterâ, which has been, outside of Action Comics (which spun it off), a complete non-entity.
You also had Doomsday Clock, which launched all the way back in 2017 and only finished in late 2019. This was intended to âimpact the entire DC universeâ, with the idea that when the series ended, the rest of the continuity would catch up to it and youâd see the repercussions. Itâs effectively been rendered non-canon, taking place outside the universe in a single line in Justice League.
So many things were happening, and they were all stressed as extremely important, but when the chips were down...
Most of them werenât.
Half the Villain upgrades went away with the blink of an eye (Black Mask hasnât shown up since his oneshot, and Riddler threw his retirement out in favor of being cRaZy in Batman). Heroes in Crisis had almost no affect. Event Leviathan is waiting on its sequel, having meant almost nothing despite the fact that an entire country was taken over. Doomsday Clock is now effectively out of canon.
Many of these (mostly YOTV itself) lead into the Death Metal event happening now, but thatâs the thing: they only lead into that. Thereâs minimal acknowledgement of those events happening in other books. Even when huge things that should be impossible to ignore happen, they have minimal to no effect on the wider continuity. When is Death Metal happening, in continuity? No idea. What about the infected arc? What about Justice League?
Who knows? DC doesnât seem to.
Which leads into the finale, the great big âare you kidding meâ moment:
Remember that time hundreds of thousands of people died, the whole of South America went to war, and China descended into mass orgies?
No?
Neither does anyone else.
In Wonder Woman issue 50 (and some issues around it), a series of dark gods emerge from (you guessed it) the dark multiverse. Each takes control over a single country, enacting their dark bidding.Â
(Brief Suicide CW in the description below)
The goddess of war causes the entire of South America to literally go to war, invading and murdering each other. The mob god causes the whole of Britain to walk outside and stare up at the sky, not eating or drinking until they started to drop dead. A god of indulgence causes the entire of China to engage in bacchanalia, which is effectively a frenzied orgy of celebration and dancing. The nameless god has taken over Saint Petersburg, causing those within to commit mass-suicide impulsively.
And of course this has been happening world wide. Tens, if not hundreds of thousands are dead. We see shots of other places - mass murder in the streets of Hong Kong, for example.
We actually see other heroes in this. The whole arc actually starts with Supergirl fighting Diana, and then while she's briefly out of commission, the Justice League (Bruce, Arthur, Barry, Jâonn, Victor, and Kendra) show up to help only to get absorbed by the big bad. Thatâs when the above panel happens, and then even more heroes get thrown at the problem.
In the end, Diana âwinsâ - by sacrificing her brother Jason to the Dark Gods. The gods return the Justice League, and undo the damage theyâve caused on Earth. Those dead arenât actually dead, for example. Time gets rewound... partially. We see the Justice League who only partially remember what happened, but the damage around the area is still there.
This should be, by any metric, a huge fucking deal. Literal gods appeared from the multiverse and fucked over huge chunks of the planet. Hundreds of thousands died and then were, in theory, un-killed. The heroes are aware of this, and have at least partial memories.
And yet itâs never acknowledged.Â
This is supposed to be a huge event. The stakes literally could not be higher, and yet Iâve never seen this arc even acknowledged in any other book. This isnât even a unique thing, either: all of New York (and most of the world) flooded in Doctor Fate and no one noticed outside that book.
So what about City of Bane?
But by far the most significant example of this is City of Bane itself. City of Bane was a huge event. Some of the top selling issues of 2019 were the City of Bane issues. It received numerous ads in other books, as well as major attention. It was the culmination of Tom Kingâs entire run, and lasted for more than half a year. It involved Gotham taken over by the titular Bane, ruling it with an iron fist and using mind-controlled villains as his own personal police force. It was a huge, game-changing event.
And outside of the pages of Batman (and Gotham City Monsters), it might as well not have happened. Any time it is acknowledged, itâs in the most awkward and confusing manner possible.
Batman and the Outsiders, Issue 6, Bruce is in Paris, Alfred gets a callout from Raâs, and calls Bruce home:Â
Bruce immediately gets on a plane and flies home, landing at the end of issue 7 when the Perpetua symbol goes up.
In issue eight, taking place immediately after, we are lead to believe that the entire City of Bane arc happened in between Bruce flying home from Paris and arriving in time to help:
This is far from the only example. City of Bane tends to be acknowledged exclusively in terms of âthis issue takes place before City of Baneâ editor notes. The only real thing that gets acknowledged is Alfredâs absence: Detective Comics skips over City of Bane entirely (The YOTV issues taking place before, and then going straight to âafter), Red Hood and the Outlaws ignores it, and Batgirls acknowledgement is effectively skipping City of Bane itself to go right back to talking about âcleaning up the cityâ with a one line mention of âwhat Bane did to Gothamâ. Plenty of other books either donât mention it at all, or the mention is so minor I completely missed it.
So why does this matter?
Early on in my time in this fandom, I noted that the more a fan is into DC comics (not the fandom, but specifically the comics), the more theyâd hate the comics themselves. This extends beyond what most people on tumblr would consider the âfandom spaceâ - Iâm talking reddit, league of comic geeks, comic review sites, etc. The fact is that DC has created a scenario where the more you read their work, the worse it gets. Any individual comic from the examples above reads just fine on its own, but when you read multiple comics you start getting confused about why nothing makes sense. Thereâs no order to things, no continuity. Things are said in one issue and ignored in the next. Major events are trumpeted as changing the status quo but donât change a thing. DC is actively pushing away their most dedicated readers, the ones who are going out and buying 5+ issues a week.
So what comes next?
The original reason this all came up was the news that DCâs upper editorial staff had been hit with major layoffs. While nothing yet has been confirmed (this happened only three days ago), the general rumors is that DC is going to be majorly cutting back the number of titles. With Death Metal almost certainly heralding a continuity reboot ala Flashpoint, now is the perfect time for DC to figure out what itâs doing with its continuity, and realistically, they have two options.
Option One: Forsake Shared Continuity.
Iâm sure a lot of people would hate this idea, because shared continuity is such an intrinsic part of DCâs history, but looking realistically at sales numbers, thereâs some major appeal. Thereâs far less work to it (important with the loss of their editors), and this isnât to say all the books will be separate, just that they wonât all be inherently linked. Maybe they keep TEC and JL in the same canon. Maybe Nightwing, Batman, and Batgirl share too. The point is, though, that the fact that Gotham is burning to the ground will no longer reflect on Clark, who is apparently just out of earshot with his thumb up his ass doing nothing.
Thereâs precedent for this as well. Injustice, DCeased, Criminal Sanity, and White Knight are all stories in their own world that are selling (or have sold) extremely well. DCâs top fifteen issues sold for January to March of this year include seven issues of Batman, one issue of Wonder Woman, one issue of Flash, and then two issues of Unkillables, the Robin 80th oneshot, Strange Adventures (its own continuity), and an issue of Batman: Curse of the White Knight. If you go farther down, itâs more of the same - you have to go through every issue of Curse of the White Knight released, as well as Criminal Sanity, to get to Batman/Superman, Detective Comics, Justice League, and Superman.
Iâm not sure this is the best choice, but I canât imagine itâs not an appealing choice just the same.
Option Two: Fix Shared Continuity.
Without question, DCâs going to be (at least temporarily) paring down the number of books they have, and thereâs never been a better time for figuring out whatâs going on with their continuity. Less books means less to organize. A reboot and one very determined editor could help establish a baseline to work from, but that would require DC to focus on it as a priority.
Iâm sure this is the choice most people will lean for, but itâs definitely the more intensive option, and we can only hope DC decides itâs worth it.
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Did you ever make that joker tier list, I always like seeing what people think of all the different ones. Though if they put Romero last I can no longer respect them.
LMAO I DID! I think Iâve made it kind of obvious in this blog but I... donât... particularly... care... for... the joker.... unless heâs, yâknow, fun to watch. Cause heâs a clown, and clowns are supposed to be entertaining. But since you politely brought it up, and and because I have a deep respect for mutual Romero-lovers, I guess this would be a good time to explain my rankings and just discuss my general thoughts on each clown:
General Thoughts:
For the most part, I donât really care for the Joker. This is hardly an uncommon opinion here on tumblr, but I definitely fall on the side of the fandom that feels that he gets too much attention from DC. I get WHY they use him so often for films and comics, and I donât have anything against *most* folks who consider them their favorite Batman villain, but at this point heâs used more for shock value and as a crutch instead of anything interesting. Like, instead of giving attention to the other Rogues, writers (at least for the comics) will try and make up some bullshit story that they can shoehorn the Joker into, âcause it sells. Itâs tiring, and I feel like the character has lost his meaning; I can only read so many stories about the Joker, I donât fucking know, wearing a suit made from dead babies and Jason Toddâs flayed corpse before I get sick of it.
Iâm at the point where Iâll like any Joker whoâs just fun to watch. I genuinely respect those who prefer darker interpretations of the character, but that isnât me; I vastly prefer the lighthearted takes on him, because... at this point... writers who use the âcleanerâ version of him tend to be more creative, since they actually have to write a Joker story that doesnât rely on gore/torture porn.
TIER ONE:
Joker Baby:Â Self explanatory. Joker Baby is thematic, thoughtful, and intense. Everytime I watch this video, I shiver with fear and pleasure; something primal in me awakens whenever Joker Baby runs his fingers through his spray-on dyed hair, and ends up smearing green paint on his forehead- it represents the inner turmoil, the chaos, that resides within the disturbed body that is Joker Baby. Nothing can ever hope to top the artistic and cultural impact Joker Baby has had on society.
TIER TWO:
Batman Ninja: I genuinely believe that Batman Ninja is one of the most fun, organic, and creative things to come out from the Batman side of DC comics in like... hmmm... a decade, maybe (I could talk for hours about how much I love this movie but thatâs something for a future post). This Joker is easily, and unironically my favorite interpretation of the character, period. I love his energy, his design, everything. This is the most fun Iâve ever had watching a Joker on-screen, and for that Iâve gotta give the film credit where it is due.
Batman â66: I looooove Caesar Romero. Batman â66 in general is one of my favorite pieces of Batman media, and I absolutely adore this Joker. The show is pure, genuine fun, and itâs nice to turn my brain off and watch a show where the entire cast was allowed to goof around. This Joker is just a cute, goofy little clown-man who likes to commit crimes, go surfing, turn Gothamâs water reserve into gelatin, and have wild orgies with Penguin, Catwoman, and the Riddler. I massively appreciate the hustle. I love his little mustache and his facial expressions. Iâd give him a chaste little kiss on the cheek if I could.
The Batman: EXTREMELY CONTROVERSIAL TAKE BUT. I think TB!Joker is better than what people will give him credit for. I can only imagine how stressful it must have been to be the first Batman cartoon to follow BTAS and the writers for this show knew they were gonna be fucked no matter what they did with the Joker, so they just decided to try something completely different with him. Personally, I appreciate the new direction- he has a fun, unhinged energy. Iâve placed him higher than BTAS/BTNA!Joker simply because The Batman was the show that got me into the Rogues in the first place, and Iâm just a bit closer to this Joker because of it. Also his vampire form was cool as FUCK in Batman Vs. Dracula and the scene where he gets drenched in blood at a blood bank is fucking awesome.
Batman the Animated Series/The New Adventures: Everyone loves BTASâs Joker, and Iâm no exception. Mark Hamill is fucking great, and the writers clearly knew the character well enough to create a version of him that can be fun and threatening. As an aside, I unironically like his redesign in BTNA- I remember Hamill mentioning somewhere that he thought it was neat that this Joker looked more like a shark (Iâll see if I can find a source on that... I think he said it in an interview with Kevin Smith?) and I kinda agree with him. the redesigns in the final season are hit or miss, but I didnât get why so many people bitched about the Jokerâs new look.
Batman Unlimited: Hear me out... Hear me out... Clown... funny... and cute... He wears a little crown and gives Solomon Grundy a little smooch on the cheek and it is as delightful as it sounds. Yes the Batman Unlimited films literally only exist to sell toys but that doesnât mean I canât enjoy them on some ironic level.
TIER THREE:
Lego Batman: Heâs a gay icon. He has the range. Enough said.
White Knight: This is just a genuinely good, original take on the character, and the art in White Knight is absolutely gorgeous.Â
Arkham: My friends and I joke that this Joker is basically a more unhinged version of BTAS! Joker and... yeah. Iâm glad Hamill and Paul Dini got to fuck around with the character more, but I never really dwelled on the Joker parts of the games like I might have for other characters. I definitely liked him the most in Arkham Asylum, as he was more fun to watch. Arkham City was fiiiiine, but I think I replayed the game so much that I kinda got fatigued with everything about it. Genuinely hated his part in Origins, and I was pissed that he stole the attention from Black Mask and Bane (whoâs the best fucking part of Origins IMO). Iâll admit that I... Havenât... played... Knight yet (I have it on PC but my laptop is too wimpy to run it) but like... Heâs dead at that point, so Iâd assume he isnât the main point of that game anyway. I love Mark Hamill and the fact I can personally beat the shit out of this Joker, so heâs ranked up pretty high for those reasons.
TIER FOUR:
Batman â89: TBH this Joker should be a rank higher, but Iâm too lazy to hop onto PicsArt to change it. NIcholson was an excellent choice, and I apprecaite how this Joker makes use of the playful and unhinged aspects of the character. Also, his outfits are cute, and I love the museum scene.
Brave and the Bold: Technically this Joker SHOULD be ranked higher since heâs literally based on the more lighthearted comics in the 60â˛s but... ehhh... I havenât really watched BATB so I donât have any strong opinions on the show and how it handles the character. heâs ranked this high through beause I appreciate what they were going for.
Golden Age: The quality of comics are always subjective, based on the creative team behind them. Some Iâll like more, others less so, Itâs kind of hard to rank the pre-52 comic version of the Joker because of this.
TIER FIVE:
Killing Joke: Read it, didnât care for it. I acknowledge how massive the impact this comic had on... everything, but just because I recognize how important this graphic novel is, doesnât mean I have to like it.
The Dark Knight: Ledger did an excellent job with the role, but uhh... Iâm kind of sick of the alt-right chuds who are out there sucking this Jokerâs dick. The fanbase definitely ruined the character for me.
TIER SIX:
99â˛: Eh
Endgame: No
Suicide Squad: NO
Death of the Family: Hate him. Despise him. Lame stupid dumb little edgy bitch.
Gotham (Jeremiah): I donât particulary care for Gotham in general, but the only reason I ranked this Joker over Jerome is beause I thought it was kinda funny to see that they made him a little rat-man, and I liked watching all the fujoshi on here cry and complain that they canât ship this version of the joker with the pre-pubescent Bruce Wayne in the show bc heâs too ugly.
Gotham (Jerome): stop shippping this freak (who is fucking eighteen years old) with a literal twelve year old child. what the FUCK is wrong with yall.
UNRANKED:
The Joker (2019): I donât plan on watching this film, nor will I ever. I know this is ironic, coming from someone who runs a Rogue blog, but stuff that focuses primarily on a characterâs deteriorating mental health makes me reaaaaallllllyyyyy anxious (itâs kind of a phobia) and considering that I donât particularly the Joker, I have no reason to watch something I know will only give my dumb ADHD-ass intrusive throughts.
#tier list#this was nice to finally write out- I don't typically write Joker stuff unless someone prompts it#the joker#gonna tag this as discourse just to hopefully keep it out of ppl's feed#bc i know how... defensive... joker fans... can get...#discourse#long post
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Okay, so the first two chapters turned out to be a little dry, but I have big hopes for the third one, so... hang on there! Yes, I know the first few paragraphs are flat, I tried to make them better, and I failed miserably.
IMPORTANT: This is an AU, so things are a teeny bit different. The Francoise-Dupont is an eight-year grammar school (those are a thing in Europe, or at least in a few countries. The kids start middle school and go to the same school until high school graduation, so its both a middle school and a high school in one. Foreign languages are usually thaught there on a higher level, so that explains Marinette's and her class' language skills.)
That's it so far, most changes will be written down in the story, but keep an eye on the summaries! ;) (Even though no one reads these.)
This is also posted on my AO3 account, under the same name.
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Ch. 2: This Was a Bad Idea
Their plane didn't crash.
That was about the only good thing Marinette could think of.
It all started when she and Adrien were forced to sit next to each other during the flight. It wasn't that bad, but things have been a little... tense between them lately. Even though Marinette forgave him a long time ago, she still felt a sense of betrayal every time she had to fight an akuma alone. She knew it was wrong. She had no right to prevent others from being happy. Especially not her friends, but she couldn't help it.
So they sat next to each other, and the first half-hour was spent with Marinette awkwardly staring out of the window and playing with her braid nervously, while Adrien was pretending to read a book, - very poorly, given that he only turned the page five times in thirty minutes. Marinette was counting it.
What a pleasing situation.
Then, of course, Lila got bored of talking about her experience with planes and started throwing around phrases like 'helping defeat the Joker', 'out-riddling the Riddler' and 'knowing who Red Robin is'.
During the past two years, her lies have gotten smaller. Smarter. More innocent. They were no longer fourteen, they didn't believe anything she said, and she realized that. After Lila swore to ruin Marinette's life, Hawkmoth's attacks got stronger and Marinette got... well, older, probably. Wiser. ( Sadder. ) Sometimes she still called her out on her lies, and on a few blissful occasions, her classmates believed her. She wasn't the only one who got wiser, as it turned out. Adrien started to see the wrong in his ways not long after he told Marinette that Lila was harmless and stood up for her almost every time the Italian girl's lies got too toxic to ignore.
There was some kind of quiet compromise between her classmates. They liked Lila, even if she wasn't always "completely honest" - that was the understatement of the year -, and they all had this "proceed with care but do no harm" attitude towards the girl.
So Marinette was pretty surprised when sitting only two seats behind her, Lila once again started feeding them lies so blatant and stupid that they almost managed to make her laugh. It would've been a long and sarcastic laugh, but a laugh nevertheless.
She turned to Adrien who was looking back at her with an expression somewhere between angry and surprised. They stared at each other for a few seconds before they both started grinning uncontrollably.
Then Nino interrupted Lila by showing the group his newest playlist, and the moment was gone.
The awkward silence was threatening to drown them, but Marinette was familiar with drowning and decided she didn't like it.
"What are you pretending to read?" Adrien's ears turned red at the question but being himself, he tried to play it off cool.
" Armada  by Ernest Cline."
She raised a brow, clearly amused by that. "Since when are you into sci-fi?"
"Since it was the first thing I could grab from the bookshelf this morning," he told her with a shrug and closed the book moodily.
Marinette grimaced at him and took a small copy of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's  Sherlock Holmes out of her bag. Adrien told her to check it out a long time ago, but given her lack of free time, she's only read two stories so far.
She gave it to him without a word.
"Thanks," he said brightly, and actually started reading this time.
Marinette gave him the ghost of a smile, then pulled out her sketchbook hesitantly. She hasn't designed a decent piece of clothing in ages. One would've called it a year-long artist's block, but she preferred "idiocy". It was shorter.
She fell asleep like that, with an empty sketchbook on her lap and a pencil in her hand.
***
Their hotel was near the Gotham Academy, which was near Arkham Asylum, which sucked. Seriously, Gotham? Yeah, let's put the kids next to the murderous psychopaths.
Once they arrived, it was already well past nine PM, so they were sent to their rooms to sleep. They had three rooms for the girls, two with four beds and one with two. Luckily, Marinette managed to occupy the double-room all to herself - Mylene, Chloe, Juleka, and Alix got a room together, and Alya, Rose, Lila, and Sabrina got the other-, so it was pretty easy to sneak out after she realized there was no way for her to stay still after sleeping on the plane.
Being inside past ten o'clock felt weird. She missed the patrols and the light breeze on her face while she swang around Paris, the sensation of falling freely from hundreds of meters, the calm of the environment as she made impossible leaps and jumps in a graceful rhythm.
With no better things to do, she pulled a blanket out of the closet and climbed to the roof.
That night, the sky was more blue than black, and the stars were dull from the city's polluted air. She sat there for who-knows-how-long, wrapped in a blanket, looking upwards, listening to the unfamiliar city beneath. Then she heard quiet footsteps behind her back.
Over the years, she learned the difference between the sounds of someone walking casually and someone trying to muffle their steps, just like she usually knew what kind of shoes they wore, their gender, and approximate height too. These were the steps of a thin man, probably young in leatherette boots, trying to sneak up on her and failing miserably. She let him come close and didn't bother to let him know she was aware of his presence.
"What does a young lady like you do here at this time of the day?" he asked in a charming but threatening voice, and Marinette had to suppress a smile at how badly he did it. She knew she should send him away, or go back to her room before he tries something that gets him ended up on the asphalt beneath them, but she was bored, and he seemed like a very entertaining person.
Instead, she answered just tonelessly enough for it to be challenging, but innocently enough to make him question it.
"Stargazing."
The man - more like a boy - stopped just a step behind her back, unsure how to proceed. Then he let out a resigned sigh and sat down next to her, far enough to not be in stabbing range - Â smart decision.
"No, seriously, it's past midnight and you're sitting on a roof, eighteen stories from the ground, in  Gotham," he said, swinging his legs over the edge of the building and looking at her with genuine concern.
Marinette finally looked at him and recognized him almost immediately. He was wearing a black hoodie and a ski mask, with jeans and dark boots.
"Oh, you're the Dark Nomad, right?" She's read about him on the plane, just like she checked out and memorized every hero and villain in Gotham. There were a few.
The Dark Nomad was one of the small, relatively harmless ones. His mother worked in the Asylum - they didn't know who she was exactly, just that she worked there -, he didn't actually do much except for exiguous vandalism, but it was enough to get him on the " List of Gotham's Villains (updated every week) " published by the city's very own newspaper, the  Gotham Gazette .
"The one and only," he saluted awkwardly.
"Then you're pretty good with psychology, right?"
He seemed a little taken back by the question.
"Yes, I mean... I guess."
Marinette turned to him with her whole body, sitting cross-legged, looking like someone who is looking forward to a great conversation. This was so much better than she thought.
"What do you think about the phenomenon where the people with higher-than-average IQ have lower-than-average EQ, but if someone has lower-than-average IQ, they most likely have average or lower-than-average EQ?"
Dark Nomad just stared at her for a moment but then decided to roll with it. It really was a good topic.
"Well, it's interesting because... it's not like you have a maximum of quotient points, and you've to live with what you have. It depends on a lot of things, and we still don't even  know  what half of those things are."
"Exactly! It could mean you need a high IQ to be able to understand and feel emotions healthily, but it's not always necessary, plus the trope of the genius robot-person is way too overused in media. That's not how smart people think!"
"Yeah, and in some cases, the low EQ could be the consequence of loneliness and isolation from a young age because of the differences in one's and the environment's thinking," Dark Nomad said, gesticulating widely.
"And by the way, EQ is pretty hard to express with numbers. If you give a test to someone, they might know what the appropriate responses to a situation are, but they might never actually... do them in practice."
Dark Nomad nodded.
"Have you read Daniel Goleman's books about emotional intelligence? It's pretty dope."
"Not yet, but I'm planning on it."
"By the way... I'm Jeremy," said the boy, sitting closer to her and reaching out for a handshake.
"Marinette," she told him with a genuine smile, accepting his hand.
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[Transcript] Season 1, Episode 1. Detective Mode â Batmanâs Worst Enemy is Himself
In our first Detective Mode episode, we discuss why Batman is his own worst enemy, and consequently, bad for Gotham City, and the Bat-Family.
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[Continuum by Audionautix plays]
Ron: Today we're talking about Batman.
Mon: Yes, welcome to our first episode of Detective Mode.
Ron: Batman is a starting point for all superhero fans and he was for us. Mon: Yeah, we started off by watching the 1960s show with Adam West, and that really shaped our love for superheroes. It was camp but it was fun.
Ron: Yes, we struggled with the other versions of Batman because we loved the Adam West show so much. But once we started reading the comics, we definitely changed our minds about how we felt about Batman yeah exactly because Mon: Bruce himself is a complicated character but also a very inflexible person.
Ron: Yeah, that's a good point. Well, Shelfdust has this whole series about Batman's worst enemies, and he has a huge rogues gallery. But finally, we decided that Batman's greatest enemy is himself.
Mon: Yeah, and in this episode, weâre really going to be discussing why we think that.
Ron: Because, as much as everybody loves Batman, and we do love Batman, there are a lot of flaws with this character. In many ways he's making his own life, and the life of the citizens of Gotham, nd the people of the Bat-Family, very difficult.
Mon: Exactly. I mean, when we talk about Batman's enemies, we have Riddler, Joker, Penguin, Poison Ivy, Bane. these are just the compelling ones. There are so many more. But they are his own enemies, his personal enemies, and yes, they wreak havoc on Gotham. But why do they keep coming back?
Ron: And that's actually the only way to look at Gotham City. It's a place where crime happens but justice is never really served. And that's the whole point of Batman to actually bring justice to his city, and looking back at his past, Batman lost his parents. They were killed right in front of his eyes when he was a small boy, and that shaped his future. That shaped the person that he was going to grow up to be, and that shaped Batman. But the set of rules that he set for himself when he was a child⌠He was a traumatized child, and that completely colored the way he looked at justice, and that's shaped the way he's tackling the villains that attack him, and the city.
Mon: Yeah, that's true. I mean, it's a child's point of view. It's good. I mean, he's innately a good person. He has a code of honour which he usually doesn't break. There's always going to be a chance here and there, where it's going to change.
But while I like that code of honor, I feel like Bruce is working on crime in Gotham from the top down. It's easier for him to be Batman, to use his face to beat up these bad guys and throw them in Arkham. But what is he doing to make the city better?
Bruce is the wealthiest guy in the whole of Gotham. I mean, he comes from the wealthiest family, who have a history of wealth and a history of power and influence over people. So why isn't he using that? Instead he's just, you know, putting these bad guys away in Arkham, and they're breaking out of there, like every three weeks or so.
Ron: Yes. Nobody really stays in Arkham for very long. It's really a revolving door.
Mon: Yeah, and let's talk about Arkham for a minute. Like every iteration of Arkham, be it in the comics, in the games, in the TV shows and films. It's this horrible, wretched place. All it does is re-traumatizes anybody who goes in there. And it makes them worse.
Ron: So, where does the rehabilitation happen? Can you get justice in a city like Gotham without actually rehabilitating these people? All these criminals, you know, Poison Ivy, Joker, Bane, they come from great poverty, great deprivation, and they're trying to make sure that not only they can have some kind of luxury, but they can give it to their cohorts that they work with. So, where is Bruce Wayne? And where is Batman? When those people need help, before they become Joker and Poison Ivy. Mon: Yeah. And another way that I feel that Batman is not only his own worst enemy, he's also Gothamâs worst enemy is that he's fighting bad guys, he's putting them away, they come back out way stronger. But all he is doing all the time, is using his power and wealth to give himself and the Bat-Family better tech, better weapons. And that's something that's alluded to in the Christopher Nolan films. In Batman Begins where detective James Gordon says that if you're more invincible, they're going to start bringing out more powerful weapons.
Ron: Exactly. And that's actually a concerning issue, especially as we look at the world in 2020. There's so much money being spent on the police force, they have tanks, they have Kevlar, and the kind of weapons that they have access to, they could do real harm. And that's just to protect the city. I mean, that's exactly what we've been seeing in Batman. He has a suit that protects him. He has a utility belt that has all sorts of gadgets. But these are not just for him, he's making the same things for the GCPD. So, what we've seen in real life has actually been reflected in the Batman books for a very, very long time. He's actually making a world around him that allows for, even gives permission to, people to create super weapons, and that becomes dangerous for the common man.
Mon: Absolutely. The most recent arc in the Batman comic series deals with a new character called Clown Hunter, who has been killing Joker's henchmen. And Batman is dead set against it. When the Clown Hunter is introduced, Batman speaks to him about his murderous ways and Clown Hunter tries to explain to him that he lost his parents and he was orphaned. He's homeless, he's squatting in this place because of a fight between Batman and Joker. So, this young boy is collateral damage. And these are the characters that we don't often see, or we don't often see Batman engage with. But this clown hunter character, he's presented as a villain, or a villain-to-be. But he's just collateral damage in a fight that really shouldn't have happened.
Ron: We see that quite often. Even Kite-Man, heâs probably one of my least favorite characters in the DC Universe, he's extremely irritating.
Mon: I canât believe he's such a huge part of the Harley Quinn TV show!
Ron: It actually did a really good job with him in that show. I was quite impressed. But otherwise, he's not a very good character; he's not very interesting. But his villain origin story comes from Batman. He lost somebody in his life because of Batman. It comes back to the same thing. Is Batman really helping the people of his city? What is he doing for people like Clown Hunter, for Kite-Man so that they don't end up on a path to villainy? How many heroes are in Gotham City, that will actually bring about something good? Apart from the Bat-Family. Even Nightwing, he's left, he's gone to Bludhaven. There's Red Robin. He's usually with his group of superheroes. There's Robin, who well, he doesn't really have a choice. He's Batmanâs son. Thereâs Batgirl. At least, she is trying to do something. But she has a connection to the GCPD, because Gordon is her father. So, in a way, she has a very blinkered view of crime fighting, as well. Again, it comes back to the same thing. What are they doing to actually rehabilitate these people? What are they doing to mitigate the kind of collateral damage that they're causing?
Mon: Yeah, I mean at the end of the day, Batman is working on a surface level. He's not trying to structurally make a change to Gotham itself, and he's one of the rare people who has the power to do that.
Ron: Exactly. I mean he does have limited unlimited resources. So, what is he doing with that money?
Mon: Exactly. And we're always hearing about the corrupt cops in the GCPD and the mayor, who's usually being bribed by the Penguin or whoever. I mean, Penguin becomes mayor in several iterations of Batman series. So, we have to ask ourselves: why is Bruce just standing by and letting all this happen? And, of course, we're talking about a comic book character here, and he is just a reflection of the people who create him or writing. So, is it that much harder to think of a good character, a heroic character, who does the dirty work, but doesn't necessarily do it with his fists? Ron: Yeah. Gail Simone had an interesting Twitter chat with a few people some time ago about Batman. Quite a few people were asking, why does Bruce Wayne not do something with his money to save the city of Gotham and actually put an end to crime? And she was saying, it doesn't really make for great comic book writing, because the visceral action of somebody hitting somebody's face, or punching them in the solar plexus, that makes for great art, that makes for great reading. Somebody sitting behind a desk crunching numbers, trying to run an orphanage, or pay off some bills, that's not very exciting.
Mon: And also, I know that the diktat from up above in DC is that every comic book needs to have an action scene. Itâs something Tom King alluded to a couple of years ago about his series, which is a little bit more cerebral from time to time. But yeah, he said basically every issue must have some action in it.
Ron: I think you can still have some kind of action. While also acknowledging the fact that Bruce Wayne has to do something with the money he has.
Mon: Something more. Because at the moment, what he's doing is, it looks like he's hoarding it.
Ron: It's actually quite interesting because the current Rebirth run has Bruce pretty much losing all his money. All of its been transferred to Lucius Fox. So, what is he going to do now? And another thing that we're seeing is Bruce is actually being questioned about what he's done for the city. He's actually having to rethink his war on crime, and whether it's actually brought anything to the plate.
Mon: Exactly. How effective is Batman?
Ron: We haven't seen him be very effective at all. Somebody like Joker; he's been around for quite a while. There used to be kind of comedic elements to him and the Adam West shows and. And we've seen that character become darker and darker. We've seen The Killing Joke, where he maimed Barbara. He was one of the more terrifying villains that we saw, when he was portrayed by Jack Nicholson, and he was portrayed by Heath Ledger. Let's not go into the Joaquin Phoenix Joker movie, which was not good.
But this is a person who is still a mystery in many ways, but he keeps harming the city, he keeps coming back. He harms people he causes damage, and he ends people's lives. And he causes a lot of pain in the process.
Mon: Exactly. And the worst thing is, at the end of it all, because the DC executives are so keen on keeping the Joker alive in some form or the other, it almost seems like Batman forgives the Joker. Yeah, that's why he always lets him live or sends him to Arkham, but it's not enough. Something more needs to be done about somebody who constantly returns and destroys the city.
Ron: Yes, I mean, he's a dangerous, dangerous man, and he has shown time and time again that he does not care about getting better.
Mon: So, something needs to be done. Maybe Arkham needs to be redone or restructured completely. Bruce has the power to do that. And unfortunately, he really just hasn't. So, in a way, you have to ask, is Bruce enjoying this? Maybe Bruce just keeps these people around so that he remains relevant.
Ron: Yes, it does. But in a way it makes sense because if there are no criminals, what's Batman going to do? There is no need for Batman. The whole point of Bruce becoming Batman was that he would make a city that would one day not need him. But it's been, what, eighty years of Batman and heâs still needed. Mon: Exactly. In fact, more so, because every time there's a colossal fight or battle, it seems like the city is completely at its end and there are even more new villains coming up. Just now, we've got two new different iterations of villains who are out to take on Batman and able to fight him toe to toe.
Ron: And the other thing is that, the newest villain that's been introduced, we don't really know very much about him, but it seems that he has history with Bruce. So, this is a personal battle that is being fought, and the victim is once again Gotham City.
Mon: There's so much collateral damage in the city, but even if we don't care about the poor faceless Gotham-ites, Batman's own family have been affected by his incompetence.
Ron: How can we forget Jason Todd, his second Robin, a feisty character, in many ways, but he ended up being murdered by the Joker. And because comics, he came back to life; he was resurrected. And he is still, after very many issues, very angry with Batman, who basically is a father figure to him. Because Batman never did anything to the Joker despite Jason dying. And that ended up leading to Jason becoming Red Hood, and he was a villain for quite a while.
Mon: Yeah, and it's funny because Batman basically saved Jason from being a villain. When he was young, his greatest concern was, if he left Jason out on the streets, then Jason would just become a bad guy. He would just be another one of Batman's roguesâ gallery. So, he invited him to the mansion, taught him to become the Robin. And that was great. And then, because of Batman's forgiveness of the Joker, when Jason does come back, he comes back angry, because it's constantly fueled by the fact that Batman refuses to act on what happened to him. Ron: That's how he keeps going. It's this vengeance that has shaped his relationships with almost everybody around him. And it's made him a very, very despondent, angry young man. We've had an issue with writing for Jason. It's not been good for a long time, but he can't grieve properly, he can't be a relatable person.
It seems like, because Batman is basically the flagship of DC, to make him as interesting as possible, everybody else around him is suffering.
Mon: Yeah. And letâs take Barbara Gordon, for example. We, especially nowadays, everybody talks about Jason's pain and Jason's anguish about what happened with the Joker. But people tend to forget what happened to Barbara Gordon. In The Killing Joke, which is a huge favorite among a lot of people.
Ron: It's not a very good book, actually.
Mon: It's quite problematic by today's standards, anyway. But for Barbara, she was left in a wheelchair after being shot by the Joker. And she took that opportunity. She saw it as an opportunity and became Oracle, still a very, very helpful superhero to the Bat-Family. And in the Rebirth comics, she was able to get some surgery, and she's back to being Batgirl.
But the writers, in general, tend to forget that the Joker had a lasting impact on her, as well. And while with Jason, itâs very much about his anger, with Barbara, she has to deal with it. And I don't think she's allowed to be angry at Batman. Even though she should be.
Ron: Yes, exactly! She's always been by Batmanâs side, but has he earned that? Has Joker earned her forgiveness? Of course, it comes back to writing, and how female characters are never⌠It's a huge problem with the big two, that female characters have had certain personality traits that are not very realistic, at all.
Mon: So, it's hard to see them as rounded, fleshed out characters because that's not how the people see them.
Ron: And they have largely been written by men who seem to have very strange views on women. So that's also quite unhelpful. But again, it comes back to the same thing. What is Batman doing for his city, for his people, for himself? Because people are getting hurt. And nothing's being done about it.
Mon: There's the old adage that goes: violence begets violence. And, in essence, that's exactly what Batman is doing. Because every time he brings out his Kevlar and his armor and his fancy batmobiles, somebody is trying to figure out a new way to get through all that.
Ron: You don't want to say that it is an invitation, but because nothing is being done to keep these people behind bars or to find a way to make them better, then, it does become an invitation. Because they know that they're not going to be in Arkham for very long. Somebody is going to break them out or they're going to find a way to break themselves out. And they're going to have an upper hand because they've already fought Batman and now, they've actually learned the things that Batman seems to be working on
The principle that all the henchmen, they're desperate people so they're aligning themselves with the Riddler or Joker or whoever is the villain of the week. But those people, they're easy to grab. They're easy to punch, they're easy to put behind bars. What happens to the bosses?
Mon: Also, we have to ask ourselves: why are there so many henchmen lining up for these jobs with the Penguin and whoever? Where are the other jobs?
Ron: Exactly! That means thereâs a high rate of unemployment in Gotham.
Mon: And again, that comes down to structural, systemic issues. Even if the bosses, none of them really do any work, all the henchmen have to do all the hard work and dirty work. So, if they didn't have a huge rotating door of henchmen coming in and out, they wouldn't be too effective.
Ron: We know that Bruce Wayne has a very large corporation, and obviously people are working there. Maybe there are opportunities to make new jobs. Why isn't he taking that up?
Mon: Exactly, exactly. It seems wrong to lambaste Bruce Wayne and Batman so thoroughly, since he is definitely one of our favorite superheroes. But at the same time, I feel like after 80 years of reading pretty much the same thing over and over, I think that, especially the most recent disappointment would have to be when The Joker War was happening in the Batman: Rebirth series. And by the end of it, heâs still a threat, an insidious threat, but he's still a threat.
And it just makes us wonder why DC is so against letting go of this character. Its comics. If a character dies, they'll be back in a year. It's fine. But give us a year where we do something different with Bruce Wayne.
Ron: Yes. And you know what, I would say, make a huge change. You know what this is making me think about? There's been a lot of discussion about colorblind casting in films. And we have seen different versions of certain characters. We've seen Thor, the mantle was taken up by Jane Foster. We've seen Miles Moralesâ Spider-Man. Maybe we need a Bruce Wayne who is not so white.
Mon: In fact, we are going to get a few. I don't think theyâre canon versions, but we do have a few things coming up in the DC future slate. The publications which will try and expand the variety and diversity of characters, even characters that we are familiar with. I hear that there's going to be a Batman who isn't exactly all white. Ron: Okay, but again, that's not the main title. That's always going to be a problem because I think, up until this year, we felt like whatever Batman was doing, it was fine. We were okay with it.
Mon: Yeah, as long as the stories are entertaining, we will keep coming back.
Ron: The stories have not been entertaining, that's a different matter altogether.
Mon: Yeah, that's it.
Ron: But since 2020 has happened. Since weâve seen what an extremely rich, white man can do when he is in a position of power, right now, Bruce Wayne's entire arc really needs to be rethought. Because it is very difficult. The two of us are women of color. We're immigrants. Reading Batman do what he does, it's not relevant anymore. It's actually a slog for me to read Bruce Wayneâs stories. I feel really bad saying that because Batman has been in our lives forever.
Mon: Yeah. Can't remember a memory without Batman in the background
Ron: I have to really prepare myself to be like, okay a new issue of Batman has come out, let me read it. It is really difficult, because there is nothing about this man that I'm interested in or that I care about.
Mon: Yeah, I mean, he's gruff, he's rugged, he's always talking about how he works solo, and he must work alone. He has a gigantic Bat-Family. He would be so much more effective if he actually invited them to help him, instead of fighting on his own. I can't say I look forward to reading the Batman title, either. Which, again I feel really bad. But I think it's because there's a predictability that has crept into his comics. And it's because it's the safety net.
Ron: And it's the same kind of people writing the same kind of stories over and over again. I think, now is the time to really make a change.
Mon: Yeah, behind the scenes. And on the page. To really shake things up and make Bruce a compelling character again and even if it means a romantic getaway with Catwoman for seven-eight issues, weâre fine with it. It's okay! It's still different. If that makes him change his mind about how he does this war on crime.
Ron: Because Catwoman comes from nothing. Maybe that's what he needs. I do like BatCat, and I did like those issues in the Rebirth comics, but we haven't gone anywhere with it. That is the problem. There is so much that can be done with it.
Mon: Catwoman is far too restrained in her relationship with Batman. I think it again comes back to the safety of not pushing the boundaries of what Catwoman can do or can say to Batman. Because half the time I'm like, really? Why is she with this guy? He's Batman but, she deserves better.
Ron: Yeah, she's smart. She's seen a lot of the really bad parts of the city. She knows what can be done to make things better, because she's been on both sides. She's fought by Batmanâs side. She's fought to save Gotham City. But she's also fought to steal stuff.
Mon: So that she can survive!
Ron: Exactly. She changes the perspective. Batman has not really had to do that. In a way, I kind of like the Christopher Nolan movies because we saw him leave Gotham City behind, leave his life behind, and actually have to be out on the streets. We see him trying to steal an apple. sharing it with another fellow thief, because he had nothing.
Mon: But in the comics, it feels like he hasn't learned from any of those kinds of experiences, or at least he's so far removed from those experiences now that he canât really put himself in the shoes of anybody who is in that state. Ron: Yes, that's true. You were mentioning how we're going to have a future DC book where we're going to see a different version of Bruce Wayne, but I'm not sure what that's going to give us. Because I just read Batman: Overdrive which was quite enjoyable. And it wasn't written by a white man, but the ethos of Batman is somebody who has money, who has privilege. And it doesn't seem like he is able to see beyond that. And that is the problem that we have in 2020.
Mon: Interesting. So even in this Batman? I haven't read it yet.
Ron: Yes, it's a YA book, it's quite enjoyable. He's a young man. This is teenage Bruce Wayne, but he just doesn't see the privilege that he has. And it's a bit jarring when you're reading it, because⌠Yes he has friends who come from the wrong side of the tracks, who don't have as much money as he does, but he is just so self-absorbed. I think that's what's the problem with Bruce Wayne's money and privilege. He can't see beyond himself, even in his crime fighting. It's not how much of it is for Gotham City, and how much of it is for revenge for what happened to his parents. Mon: Wow. Yeah, that's it. I'm a little disappointed to hear that, because I was quite excited to read it. I kind of agree with you because , the problem with a character who is self absorbed or the issue with such characters, it's about them beingânot being apathetic towards other people's pain and suffering, and their situation.
I think therein lies the problem with Batman. He is so absorbed with him being the sole protector of Gotham when he has so many people he can rely on. He's got Lucius Fox backing him up right now. He has Barbara who is back in the Oracle chair when she really should be fighting as Batgirl. He has all these safety nets. And he's not really doing anything with these partners that he has. And it really just comes back to the same thing that he doesn't see beyond himself. And that has repercussions on the people around him, on his city, and on the villains that he's been fighting all these years.
Ron: Exactly.
Mon: They're always saying, yeah, Batman he has his rules which is why he can't step over the boundaries. But that's not the point. Batman doesn't have to go around killing people to make a point. He needs to just make sure that Gotham isn't a breeding ground for these people.
Ron: Make structural changes when you have the ability to make those structural changes. And we're not really seeing that. I'm not saying that we need entire issues dedicated to Batman trying to build the halfway houses or something. but at least give us an inkling that he is doing something like that. And when they are introducing new villains like Clown Hunter, this is a boy who is murdering people, because of the deaths that have been caused by Batman.
Mon: And he's not just murdering common people. He's murdering people who worked with the Joker.
Ron: And who are also in some way, just regular people in difficult circumstances. So, it's such a vicious cycle.
Mon: Well, it actually reminds me off the first season of Batwoman on The CW. In Batwoman, where Ruby Roseâs Kate Kane, she's Bruceâs cousin, so she's also a person of wealth. She returns to the city and while at first, she really does want to fight as Batman, and then as Batwoman, she also starts making little changes. She buys those halfway houses, she's making a little club, which is friendly towards queer people. So, she makes her own little changes. Unfortunately, we won't be able to see more of that.
But we have a new hero in Javicia Leslieâs Ryan Wilder who is going to be debuting next year. 2021. And she is also affected by the structural issues, the systemic problems of Gotham. And she will be fighting for those people.
Ron: Javicia Leslie is a Black woman. She's playing the first Black Batwoman. And this is the kind of change that we need to see.
Mon: Exactly. Who knows, if Rose had remained as Batwoman into the second season, we probably wouldn't have seen this. But she stepped back and they saw what was happening around the world, and they made a positive change by bringing in a Black woman who can give us a completely different idea of what it is like to fight crime in Gotham. Ron: And is this something similar with Sophie Moore. They didn't have to have a Black woman in that role, but they did, and we get a completely different perspective because she's a Black, queer woman. We don't get to see characters like that. So for me, the Batman comics, if they really want to make Batman more relevant, maybe, to make sure that Batman doesn't seem like an enemy to his own people, maybe start making a big change like that.
Mon: Yeah, I, for a very long time, I've always wanted to make a sort of Elseworlds story where Batman is like sort of, half-Asian or full Asian, who knows. And the problem is that they will be rich, but because of the systemic racism and societal racism, he's not quite accepted by everybody else which is why he works alone so often. You need to sort of mold it, so it makes a little bit more sense.
Ron: But I would take that even further. What if Batman, an Asian Batman, whose parents built Gotham City, ended up seeing his parents being killed in front of him, because they were immigrants, because they were doing something for the city. We've managed to get a completely new perspective. I'm looking at it this way: we were in Dubai for so long, and there were so many South Asians who stayed there and built the city from the ground up. And it makes a difference to what the outcome of the city is. So, maybe that's what Gotham needs. Maybe that's what Batman needs. His titles need a refreshing change in point of view. Mon: Exactly.
Ron: Unfortunately for us, though we really do love Batman, we do have to admit that he has not been good for his city, for his close friends and relatives. Or for himself. He's not healing, he's not getting better. He's doing the same thing over and over again, which is quite literally the definition of madness. So, we need to see something new in Batman. We need to see him change. We need to see him held accountable for what he's been doing wrong. And maybe we just need a new Batman.
Ron: You can find us on Twitter @Stereo_Geeks. Or send us an email [email protected]. We hope you enjoyed this episode. And see you next week!
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May 3, 2019 Great article about how the Gotham cast wants to reprise their roles!
In closing out its final season, Gotham launched viewers to the point in Gotham City's future when Bruce Wayne finally returned to his crime-ridden home turf in full Dark Knight glory. Of course, the episode held its focus on all the other colorful and iconic characters that have populated Gotham throughout its five seasons, granting Jim Gordon, Barbara Kean, Oswald Cobblepot, Ed Nygma and others a fond comic-book-infused farewell. But could these characters return in our future one day?
The #1 hope, of course, is for another network or studio to hurry up and pick up where Gotham left off, but even if it takes time, there are feasible ways to jump back into Gotham's story. It's not likely that every single cast member would be able to pick back up where their characters left off, but CinemaBlend asked a handful of stars, including Cameron Monaghan, if they would be down to return. Let's run through their answers.
Cameron Monaghan - Jeremiah / J / The Joker
Of all the elements that made Gotham such a blazing romp, its greatest weapon was the sporadically utilized Cameron Monaghan, who inspired increasingly Joker-esque pandemonium as both Jerome and Jeremiah Valeska, as well as the finale's Mr. J. Oker. (Not the actual character name, but wouldn't that be a hoot.) Thinking about Gotham returning in the future without Monaghan's sadistic villain â or even just his laugh â is a bummer, so it's a good thing we don't need to do that.
CinemaBlend spoke with Cameron Monaghan for this year's Television Critics Association winter press tour, which took place ahead of the finale's airing, but after the principal photography was shot. The actor was very pumped for fans to get a load of Jeremiah's final turn, and I had to ask if he would be interested in reprising Gotham's version of The Joker in the future. His response:
âYeah, maybe. I think that it just depends on the context that it's within. I think that this specific version probably wouldn't be used if I was to return to it. It would be in a different capacity. It's like one of those things, because The Joker, to me, is like the most distilled version of an antagonist ever, and he is the counterpoint to whatever he's in a scene against. And he needs to shift depending on the context around him. So if I was to return back with these characters, he would probably be different, and reinvented again, you know? It's one of those things where he has to be completely tailor-made to the tone and the story of whatever it is he's a part of. So I would be willing to go back if the story was good and it made sense, but it would probably be different.â
 The last time we got to see Cameron Monaghan's Joker was in his first face-off against Bruce Wayne's Batman, although it was a severely short-lived one. The scarred-up J took a Batarang through the hand, and then one to the top of the dome, which knocked him clean out, though it definitely didn't kill him.
Considering the finale was viewers's big introduction to the post-Arkham Jeremiah, it would make total sense for his next appearance to head down a different creative route. Assuming the next Gotham project would get to feature more of Batman, that would automatically change the writers' approach to weaving a Joker storyline into it. And I'd love to see it, if someone can just make it happen. Someone?
Ben McKenzie - Commissioner Jim Gordon
If there was a load-bearing character on Gotham, it would definitely be Ben McKenzie's Jim Gordon, as close to a working-class superhero as there is. The fact that the finale even hinted at him trying to quit the GCPD was surprising, given the character's legacy, but the story obviously worked itself out in Gotham City's favor. Even if he had to shave to make it happen.
I also got to talk to Ben McKenzie during TCA, where we talked about him facing fellow former teen hunk Shane West as Bane. McKenzie is a pragmatic actor who loved his time on Gotham, even if he didn't flip out with excitement over Batman's arrival. But would he return to play Jim Gordon again someday? His answer:
 Sure. Possibly. I mean I think that, in the right context, sure. I think this, for what we were doing here, we really bookended it in a way that feels true and honest to the characters that have been fleshed out here. So this feels like a real ending. But if in the future, it were to come back around again in some way, yeah of course, I'd always be open to thinking about and talking about that, and doing it possibly. I mean, I've mainly played three characters in 15 years, you know? Three different shows, and each of them kind of stick with you a little bit, and it's fun to re-explore and think about again, if you haven't thought about them a lot.
 Three different shows that might seemingly have three very different fan demographics, too. Ben McKenzie starred in both the teen drama The O.C. and the non-comic cop drama Southland before hanging his hat in Gotham City, and I've no doubt that fans of both of those shows would love to see them get revived in some form or fashion.
 Regardless of any of that, though, Ben McKenzie sounds like he'd be willing to slick his hair back anew to lead the GCPD against whatever dangerous threats lie over the horizon. Just imagine if the newest recruit on the squad was his Southland character Ben Sherman, and if Joker's newest henchman was The O.C.'s Ryan Atwell.
 Robin Lord Taylor - Oswald Cobblepot / The Penguin
After five seasons of watching Robin Lord Taylor committing some Penguin-lite acts as Oswald Cobblepot, Gotham fans were introduced to the most genuine iteration of The Penguin that TV has seen since Burgess Meredith waddled around for the 60's Batman series. The penultimate episode injured his eye to set up the monocle, and a rough decade in Arkham Asylum led to his weight gain and heightened levels of frustrated anger.
I got to talk to Robin Lord Taylor on the phone just ahead of the finale's airing, and he seemed to still be riding that one-of-a-kind Gotham high, championing the work he got to do alongside Cory Michael Smith as Ed Nygma. When I asked Taylor if he would ever want to get uncomfortable in The Penguin's signature garb again in the future, he was down, but only if his co-stars were making the return with him.
âAbsolutely. I totally would. It would have to be the right circumstances. I don't think I could do it...in fact, I know I couldn't do it unless the actors I worked with on Gotham came back as well. It's like, there's no way I could be in a scene with a different Riddler. I couldn't do it. It wouldn't be justice. It would be blasphemous to what we had done before. So again, if the circumstances were right, in a heartbeat I would be there.â
 As great as Oswald and Ed were in Gotham's first 99 episodes, seeing them in pure Penguin 'n' Riddler glory was a gloriously batty punctuation mark on the series' run. (A question mark, of course.) Any follow-up version of Gotham would be severely lacking if Taylor's Oswald and Smith's Ed were absent. However, Robin Lord Taylor wouldn't begrudge another team picking up where the Fox drama left off. In his words:
 âYou never know. All I put out there is that whoever takes up the mantle of the Dark Knight or any of the amazing characters that we got to put in Gotham, that they have as beautiful a crew and cast as we have. Because that's really the success of the show. It was built on the backs of many. No one takes full credit for being successful in this show. We all came together in this spectacular moment, and I feel like we just made something really amazing, and I'm just so proud of it.â
 Again, it should be stated that any future Gotham-y project that doesn't have Robin Lord Taylor's Penguin and Cory Michael Smith's Riddler is not the ideal iteration of that project. So other decisions should probably be made. Soon.
 David Mazouz - Bruce Wayne / The Dark Knight
David Mazouz's potential to return to Gotham's universe would a little trickier than what would happen for the others. As viewers witnessed â or didn't witness, as it were â Mazouz's Bruce Wayne was completely absent from the series finale, which wasn't announced ahead of time like Camren Bicondova's absence was. (She was replaced as Selina by Lily Simmons.) That was, of course, due to the actor's young age not exactly matching up with Bruce's for the finale's flash-forward.
As such, I didn't directly ask him about reprising Bruce Wayne for a future Gotham project, I did ask if he'd be down to play Batman on the big screen. His answer did not take long to formulate.
âOh, absolutely. I think I would need to be a little bit older, a little bit taller.â
"I know there's a new Bruce that's going to be cast soon. I'm sure whoever they cast is going to do an incredible job. All I can say is that it's my philosophy that if you're going to do something, do it well. There's no point in doing something a half-assed. That's kind of always how I've functioned. So I feel because of what I've taken on, I sometimes decline challenges because I say to myself, 'I know I'm not going to be able to do my best on that.' And that's not acceptable to me. If I do something, I'm going to do my best. And I think this job was no exception, and it's pushed me to some limits and it's challenged me in ways that I'm forever grateful for. I feel like this role has changed me in so many ways, and this experience has changed me in so many ways, and all for the better. And I know it sounds so cliche and like, you've heard it a million times, but I'm just so grateful. It really comes down to that.â
 All that said, David Mazouz spoke so highly of his experience on Gotham, especially in the final season, that he would very likely return for more small screen vigilantism should anyone come calling. Now, someone, start calling!
Gotham is over on Fox now, but there's always the hope for more in the future. While waiting for Season 5 to hit streaming, you can watch the first four seasons on Netflix, while Hulu is still hosting the final five episodes of the series.
#Gotham#Cameron Monaghan#ben mckenzie#Robin Lord Taylor#David Mazouz#interview#life after Gotham#save gotham
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The Riddler: DC Redefines Famous Batman Villain
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Does Year of the Villain mean a big change for Batmanâs puzzling nemesis?
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Event comics usually come with a passel of one-off tie ins. Sometimes theyâre very good. Sometimes theyâre a way of giving someone a try out. Sometimes theyâre a way of getting somebody work. These are all good things! But very rarely are they ever impactful on a character or the direction of a line. That may change this week, as Mark Russell and Scott Godlewski bring the Riddler into Year of the Villain with one of the most introspective superhero comics in a while, one that potentially foreshadows a big status quo change for one of Batmanâs oldest villains.
The premise of the entire Year of the Villain arc has Apex Lex, a powered-up Lex Luthor, gone full evil again after years spent straddling the line of âdickâ and âdick but helping the good guysâ, running around the DC Universe offering power ups to the bad guys from every rogueâs gallery. In the pages of Justice League, he cranked up folks like Sinestro, while heâs been popping into other books for help like closing Gotham to the outside world and giving free rein to Bane (Batman), or a substantially boosted cold suit for Captain Cold (The Flash). In The Riddler: Year of the Villain, he gives Edward Nygma something completely different: perspective.
The story is framed by the Riddlerâs friendship with King Tut. They start the issue kvetching about their persistent failures to top Batman in any meaningful way. They move to complaining that they havenât been approached by Luthor yet, then head their separate ways. When Riddler gets home, he finds Luthor in his living room, and Luthor is pretty merciless in his criticism. The next morning, Tut calls Riddler to loop him in on his own profound realization: that they persistently fail because they never work with each other, and the true solution to both their problems is to do a half-baked death trap together.
The Luthor conversation is the crux of the issue. Luthor hands the Riddler nothing - no hyper-powered question staff, no bowler hat that will increase his cleverness tenfold, no giant question mark-shaped bomb planted under Wayne Manor. He just talks to him about Nygmaâs own rigidity. The inflexibility of his mind, being lashed to his schtick, is what Luthor hints has been holding the Riddler back. And that inflexibility is preventing the Riddler from growing as a person. Itâs kept him from accepting any changes since he was a child fixated on revenge against the bullies tormenting him. He ends the story by telling Nygma âLife is the process of saying goodbye to ourselves.â And the Riddler ends the issue by walking out on King Tutâs death trap.
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This is...not what I think anyone expected from a Year of the Villain book. The best you can usually hope for is a thoughtful one-off. Something akin to what Russell already gave us in Year of the Villain: Sinestro - a clever character piece that leaves the character exactly where he started when the issue picked up. Here, we get smart character work, but we also get more character development than the Riddler has had since...what, Paul Dini on Detective Comics back around Infinite Crisis? The Riddler is iconic, but the character owes almost everything to Frank Gorshinâs portrayal of him on the old television show. He hasnât had more than a handful of deep dives or status quo shifts in an age.
A literal age - I can count four stories since the Bronze Age ended that really matter, that made a big impact on the Riddler as a character, and thatâs a stretch a little bit - one of them came out on the cusp between the Bronze Age and the modern age of comics and could be argued into either category. But for almost every one of them, the impact on other characters was greater.
âDark Night, Dark Cityâ was Peter Milligan and Kieron Dwyerâs 1990 tale in Batman that had a suddenly very bloodthirsty Riddler pulling jobs around Gotham. Itâs a really good Riddler story, but overshadowed by the fact that itâs also where Barbatos, the dark Bat-god who dominated Grant Morrisonâs Batman mythology and later spawned Scott Snyder and Greg Capulloâs dark multiverse, first appeared. Snyder and Capullo also featured the Riddler as the main villain of "Zero Year," their big, 13 issue story about Batmanâs first run in with Nygma. It is also the first time we really got to look at the way Batman managed his own mental health, and ends with him almost getting shock therapy. And the War of Jokes and Riddles was a long story that wrapped up Tom Kingâs first year on Batman by giving Kite Man a heartbreaking origin story and having the Joker (of all people) stop Bruce from killing the Riddler.
read more - Batman: Damned is a Trip Through the Darkest Corners of the DC Universe
The unifying force in all of these stories is that theyâre not about Edward Nygma. Theyâre about someone else reacting to Nygma. And, in the case of âZero Yearâ and the âWar of Jokes and Riddles,â they both happen in the distant-by-comic-book-time past of Batman.
Really, the only story in the last 30 years worth of comics that really changed what we know about the Riddler was Paul Dini turning him into Sherlock Holmes in Detective Comics. In the wake of the wretched âHushâ and the not-great Infinite Crisis, Dini has Nygma go straight and begin selling his services as a consulting detective to Gothamâs wealthy. It takes the Riddler, keeps his main schtick (proving that heâs smarter and more clever than Batman), but points it in a different direction so we can see it work from another angle and take a little bit more out of it. Edward Nygma, Consulting Detective is the one time before this Year of the Villain issue that anybody really tried to twist the Riddlerâs core concept around and peer at it from a different angle in modern comics. For perspective, in those same 30 years that it took to get four meaningful Riddler stories, Gotham City has been destroyed or quarantined from the rest of the country in four stories.
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Gorshinâs portrayal and the Riddlerâs iconic look have been enough to keep him top tier in the popular consciousness, though. That a character can largely survive Jim Carrey and the Question Mark Guy who wanted to give us all free government money sullying his rep and look, respectively, is a testament to his fundamental appeal. The beauty of this issue is that even if it were a fluffy one-off with no potential wider impact, it would still be terrific. How many times do you get to open a comic and yell âOH MY GOD IS THAT KING TUT?â Itâs not like heâs the Fluoronic Man or something. A King Tut sighting is a rare blessing, friends! Also, Tom King Batman aside, thereâs been a subtle creep of a lighter Batman into comics lately that continues here. Weâve got a Batman happy to toss riddles back at Nygma along with his boots. Batman gets noticeably exasperated by King Tutâs incompetence and even almost jokes with the Gotham PD about how long itâll take him to beat Tut. âLairâ Magazine is something I hope DC one day manages to publish, even if itâs just a joke. Profound character development aside, this issue was just really fun.
The brilliance of this issue is how it directly interacts with one of the fundamental tenets of modern superhero comics: the illusion of change. Stan Lee said the secret to Marvel storytelling (a theory that has come to apply to the superhero industry as a whole) is âthe illusion of change.â The idea that comic book superheroes change over time is actually far truer than it seems on first glance, itâs just the under the radar ones, the characters keeping one arm out of limbo, who are capable of doing the most changing.
Itâs possible that this issue is setting the Riddler up for a big change. It shows a willingness to strip Edward Nygma back to his bare, raw, core concept, and itâs one that makes him stand out as a Batman rogue. For years now, weâve been watching Batman matched against the inexplicable chaos of the Joker, or match power and forethought with Bane, or have really bad anxiety attacks and bone Catwoman. What weâve seen far less often is Batman be the best detective in comics. We get plenty of Batman pounding the shit out of a parade of bad guys. We donât see him sussing out motive or means as much. All of the good writers have found a way to make that happen here and there over the last few years, but it always takes a backseat to saving hypertime by throwing three pearls at Rip Hunter. The Riddler gives them an excuse to lead with the detective work.
read more: The Batman Who Laughs and the Culmination of 10 Years of DC Stories
Maybe the Riddler has fallen far enough for this to stick. We know from tweets hoping for an ongoing that Russell thinks so. The Riddler: Year of the Villain works because it forces Nygma to think his way out of his rut and choose to do something different. Hopefully we get to see more of that change play out on the page.
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Dog Sitter Part 14 - Together
A Gobblepot fanfic. When Oswald loses his dog Ed, Jim Gordon finds it and does an excellent job when it comes to taking care of the mobsterâs furry friend. Read it on Ao3 here.
Thank you @mexican-texican for correcting my mistakes and @butterfliesandresistance for holding my hand.
âThatâs your idea of romance?â Jim asks with a crooked smile, feet dangling merrily from the pier.
The air is foul and fresh all the same. Oswald tastes salt, oil, and seaweed on the tip of his tongue. He smells Jimâs fresh cologne and the sweetness of his vanilla ice-cream.
The Captain watches him with an expression torn between curiosity and bemusement when his tongue darts out, wrapping itself around the cone, savoring the icy treat. The mobsterâs eyes follow the movement. Staring at Jimâs mouth, he wonders how those cold lips would feel on him and blushes. Give it to Jim Gordon to eat an ice-cream in the middle of March when itâs still freezing.
He should probably be offended the other man doesnât immediately understand, but itâs a bit hard with him sitting so close to him, his body-heat warming his aching bones. Jim is like a solid rock, particularly in this context and in this place; A safe anchor keeping him from the pitch black water trying to drown him over and over again.
Making a choked chiding sound, Oswald grins innocently at the man beside him. They are both sitting at the edge of the pier where their shared story began all those years ago. Itâs the very place Oswald Cobblepot died and the Penguin was born. Itâs the site of his personal reincarnation and a memento of his greatest fall. He knows exactly how cold the water here is, knows how it tastes and feels, how it burns in his lungs and eyes. He remembers everything about this water whenever he closes his eyes and goes to sleep. Itâs a blanket that would cool him even on the hottest summer day.
If Oswald learned anything here, itâs how death is not the end, itâs just another beginning. Especially in Gotham. Nothing ever really stops, nothing ever stays the same. Especially him and Jim. They have both made mistakes, trusted the wrong people. They had loathed and fought each other and teamed up whenever the situation was most dire. They had started right here, and here they should start again.
Oswald thinks itâs poetic. Jim thinks itâs macabre to come back here.
âYou exiled me from Gotham right here, on this spot,â the mobster declares, mouth hardening into a thin line.
âI remember,â Jim replies drily. He stares down at the water sloshing against the concrete and Oswald wonders what heâs thinking when a drop lands on the tip of his shoe. Did he ever regret not burying him in the floods?
âI died right here,â he continues. âLiterally,â he adds with a little snort when Jim turns his head in surprise. âEd shot me in the gut on this pier. You see, Gotham tried getting rid of me more than once.â
âYou came back,â the cop notes, expression unreadable.
Oswald nods. âI own the harbor now,â he explains with a little shrug.
Usually, he wouldnât feel insecure about revealing his influence or his power. But around Jim, heâs always a bit nervous. Heâs giddy, like a kid showing a secret hideout to a friend. Or, well, he assumes thatâs what it would have felt like if ever had friends.
âNothing enters or leaves Gotham without my knowing.â
Jim acknowledges that statement solely with a curious glance. When opening his mouth, Oswald expects him to ask questions about everything that gets smuggled, about the goods, and possibly the other people controlling the harbor.
Instead, he bumps his shoulder slightly against his. âGood. I was already afraid weâd get shot in the back any second.â Jim pauses. âWell, I suppose that could still happen,â he grumbles sarcastically. âWeâre quite literally sitting ducks out here.â
Oswald chuckles. âI can assure you, Captain, nobody would dare to. Besides, itâs too dark to get a good shot.â
Scooting closer to the edge, Oswald allows for his bad leg to fall over. With his destroyed limb dangling freely from the pier, the pain is almost bearable. Jim jerks beside him at the movement. One heavy arm shoots out and wraps itself protectively around his slim hips, pulling him slightly back.
âWhat the hell are you doing?â Jim scolds angrily.
For the briefest moment, Oswald allows himself to lean against the other manâs broad chest. Resting his head in the crook of Jimâs neck, he closes his eyes. Smiling to himself, he starts playing with the cufflinks of his shirt.
âRelieving my leg,â he explains, grinning mischievously. âBut please continue doing your duty,â he adds when Jim removes his arm reluctantly.
The cop beside him snorts. âYouâre terrible,â he states while the gangster already misses the warmth.
To his delight, Jim scoots closer. âJust making sure you donât fall in,â he mumbles unconvincingly.
When he speaks again, his breath is hot against his ear, the arm lingering against his hip soothing. Itâs not the question Oswald would have expected, but maybe he should have, given the place. Jim probably thinks thatâs what they are here for.
âWhy did Ed try shooting you after killing his girlfriend? You two controlled this city, I never understood what happened.â
The mobster sighs. His plans concerning Jim always have a flaw. Somehow heâs never capable of stirring the man towards the direction he wants him to go. The cop must think it was Ed who manipulated Isabellaâs car under the influence of his Riddler persona.
âDid it ever cross your mind that I killed that woman?â he asks tentatively.
Jim frowns. âNo,â he admits to Oswaldâs utter delight. And wouldnât it be fantastic if that truth could stay buried forever with Isabelle? Jim Gordon, the man who always thought the worst of him regards him as innocent for once, but heâs guilty as sin.
âOswald, why are we here?â the Captain urges.
âWell, not because of Ed.â The mobster purses his lips in disdain. âBut since you mentioned itâŚ,â
âYou started this when telling me he shot you right here,â Jim reminds him. Pulling slightly back, he scowls at the mobster with an expression usually reserved for the interrogation room.
âRight,â Oswald sighs in exasperation. Suppressing the urge to chew on his fingernails, the criminal slightly pulls away from Jim. Leaning back, he presses his hands flat against the concrete for support.
He wonders what to tell Jim. Originally, he wanted to pull the wool from his eyes. He wanted to show him how deep the corruption in Gotham truly runs. He wanted to show him how utterly useless his efforts to save the city have been so far and propose changing it again for him. At last, he feared it would be too dangerous. Tipping him over the edge is the last thing he wants. Jim is already too disillusioned, too lonely, too sad for the lack of a better word. What he truly needs is hope. And Oswald is ready to give the other man everything he wants. If itâs hope, then so be it.
âI think the view is quite lovely,â he replies with a lopsided grin.
Jim rolls his eyes. âAnd all those sweet memories.â
The gangster ponders how to continue. He brought Jim to the pier for a reason. He wants to give the man a present as well as proposing a deal. Itâs a precarious thing. Even more so with Jimâs question about Ed.
âIt never really crossed your mind I killed that poor woman?â
He canât see Jimâs face in the darkness but he hears how his breath hitches. This truth is a dangerous thing. When this night is over, they could end up being enemies again. But now that the question is out in the open, thereâs no way around it. Oswald wants Jim. And lies piled upon lies wonât make for a good start into the future.
âI saw the way youâve been looking at Ed. You cared about him very much. The way I see it, you let nothing harm the people you love.â
His voice not once wavers. Itâs a simple statement and probably the sweetest thing Jim has ever said about him. A proof the man indeed regards him as something more than a monster.
Humming in agreement, Oswald stares into the darkness of the sea. âAnd if I had?â he asks again.
âThen Iâd have to arrest you,â Jim declares with determination. âBut you havenât,â he adds with even more certainty. Turning around he stares directly into the criminalâs eyes and the mobsterâs breath hitches in his throat. The man before him is one who knows the truth exactly, knew it probably before - and decided to ignore it.
Yes, Jim has indeed turned into a crooked cop over the years. How many times did he turn to him instead of doing what is right? How many times did he compromise already? Which crimes he committed did he overlook?
âWould you really arrest me?â Oswald canât help asking and the desperate noise Jim makes in return speaks volumes.
âA man we all assumed was dead used to be the centerpiece of your club,â he snaps back in response. âBut yes. Yes, I would if I had no other choice.â
Maybe Oswald should be satisfied with this answer but he must push Jim. Either into his arms or so far away from him he doesnât come back. âWhen would that be?â
For a moment, the criminal is certain the other man will get up and leave. He pulls his leg towards his chest, rocks forward and then decides to stay put. âIf I had to choose between killing or arresting you.â He shrugs while dropping the remaining cone into the water. âThere are powerful forces in this city beside you, Oswald. You know that.â
The gangster nods. Yes, he might be one of the most powerful players in Gotham but so is Jim. And so are countless others. Some are known, some are still lurking in the shadows. Â
âI could never truly corrupt you,â Oswald pauses. âBut youâve teamed up with me over and over again.â
âYou were always on Gothamâs side,â Jim sighs. âYou are Gotham. But I messed up when turning to Sofia. And now I have to live with the consequences. I thought I could distract myself and for a while, that almost worked...â His voice cracks and Jim leaves the sentence unfinished. The Penguin knows what he wants to say though. He can see how the guilt and the loneliness are eating him up from the inside.
âSo you want to give up and throw yourself in front of a bullet?â the mobster asks curiously.
Silence is the only answer he gets. âYou canât serve Gotham as a corpse,â he tells him softly.
âI havenât served Gotham in while. Iâve only brought destruction. Oswald, I became what I fought against when coming here,â Jim admits ruefully.
Itâs not true, the gangster thinks. He has seen what embracing your inner darkness truly means. Jim is still one of the good guys, he always will be. Whenever being forced to choose between good and evil, Jim would never choose evil. He may struggle, he may make horrible mistakes but at the end of the day, heâd be a hero. Â
âThis city needs something more than me. This city needs hope, a symbol, somethingâŚanything else but me.â
âWhat youâre talking about is a vigilante,â the Penguin snorts. âWhat this city needs, is someone with enough power to truly make a difference. And I can be that man. Together with you,â he states with a little jut of his chin.
âBut why me?â the cop cries out, frustrated. âAfter everythingâŚâ
âBecause I love you!â Oswald bursts out. âBecause Iâve loved you for so long.â Taking Jimâs face between his hands, he forces him to look into his eyes. âBecause it was always you.â
âButâŚâ
âThere are no âbutsâ,â the Penguin growls. âI might be a psychopath. I might not care about the value of human life, but I care about you. I care about Martin. I have the power to give both of you everything you dream of. I will change this city for you if that is what you want but you need to be my conscience. I donât have one, itâs true.â
His hands fall to his side, numb and powerless. Why canât Jim see? Why wonât he understand?
âWe canât be together,â Jim whispers, at last, gently reaching for his wrist. Â
âWhy not?â
âBecause I am what I am. And you are what you are,â he explains softly. âAnd maybe weâd be happy for a while but you would miss being a crime-lord and Iâd miss being a cop. We define ourselves as the men we have become. What would you suggest? Meetings in secrecy? Lies? It would destroy us,â Jim finishes.
Slowly releasing his hand, the cop starts to get up. Â
âStay put!â Itâs a harsh command and itâs intended to be one. âIt is you who keeps coming back again and again. Itâs you who demands favors, who took care of my dog, who came after me when Martin was in danger. You made yourself part of my life and Iâm not allowing you to come and go as you please any longer.â
Surprised, Jim stops. Opening his mouth, he wants to say something but the Penguin lifts his cane and the man falls silent. âI have never defined myself as a gangster. I strive for power, I need to be in control,â he carries on, slowly rising to his feet. âI can exert my influence legally or not. I really donât care,â he shrugs. âBut you could give me a reason to. Care, that is.â
âThatâs too much of a responsibility,â Jim whispers, appalled.
âAre you scared, Jim Gordon?â the Penguin demands to know. âScared that you could really make a difference?â
âIt wouldn't be that way,â he contradicts, stubborn as always. âI would end up being another one of your lackeys.â
âI would never ask you to do anything against your will,â the mobster objects.
Shacking his head, Jim turns to leave and finally, Oswaldâs temper flares. âI have always been honest with you. I kept each and every one of my promises. It has always been you who acted like a coward. Itâs you who left me in Arkham, itâs you who choose to believe I murdered my own childâŚ.â
âThen you probably should stop your putting trust in me! And itâs not you Iâm afraid of. What do you expect? That we declare our love on the cover of the Gotham Gazette? Your allies will come flocking up to you, expecting you to ask me to look away! What would become of you, if you decided to date the cop who arrested half of your business partners? Did you ever think about that?!â
The Penguinâs face darkens as anger threatens to overpower him. The rage, his old friend, is coursing through his veins. But by now, he learned to control it. For Jim and Martin, he could always be patient. As well as for his mother, a long time ago.
âLook at the ship approaching the shore,â he orders haughtily. Reluctantly, Jim follows his gaze. âItâs loaded with stretched drugs,â he explains. âDrugs that could and probably will kill the people consuming them.â
âWhy are you telling me this?â
âBecause I need you to understand what a true partnership between us could mean,â he screeches in frustration. âThe men on this ship betrayed me. The goods on this ship arriving in Gotham equals mindless murder, and Iâve never supported such a thing. Despite all my flaws, I strive for order.â
âThose men betrayed you and you want me to arrest them,â Jim concludes. His voice is flat, stripped of any emotion. The disappointment emanating from the man is almost palpable. Lying is not an option.
âYes,â the gangster hisses. âYes. They broke our deal.â Taking a step forward, he jabs his finger into Jimâs chest. âAnd tonight, they will either die or end up in prison. Itâs your choice, Jim. Together with me, you can cleanse Gotham or allow for criminals like me to uphold the order. This night here could be the start of our partnership, or the definitive end of our alignment. This city canât change overnight, and it wonât be pretty. But Iâm offering you the chance of a true start.â
When the cop takes in a deep breath, Oswald almost expects Jim to run away, to leave him alone on his harbor. Shoulders slumped, he regards the Penguin for a long moment.
âYou want me to take down your opponents.â Fists clenched, the Captain stares intently at the slowly approaching ship.
âYou still donât understand. I want you to take down all of them. With my help. Until you and I are the last two men standing.â
âIâŚâ Jim works his jaw but no further sound escapes his mouth.
âYou wanted to change this city with brute force and within seconds. You used your fists, your guns, and even Sofia Falcone to do so. Now, Iâm offering you my genius. Choose wisely, Captain,â Oswald urges lowly and finally, the Captain cracks.
Itâs a tiny gesture, an almost imperceptible nod that lets Oswald know he has won.
âTogether,â the cop whispers at last and the Penguin hides his emotions behind a smile. If he could, he would break down and cry, or throw himself into Jimâs arms. But itâs neither the place nor the time.
âTogether,â he echoes instead and before he can understand whatâs happening, Jim leans forward and presses the lightest kiss against his lips. The moment is so short he wouldnât even be certain it happened if not for the sweet taste of vanilla in the corner of his mouth. The cop is still rigid, tense, but ready to give in and that is everything Oswald could have hoped for. Heâs practically vibrating in front of him but thereâs also an expression of determination on his face that tells him thereâs no going back now.
âYou shouldnât be here when the GCPD arrives,â the cop mumbles while taking the smallest step closer. A strong hand strokes Oswaldâs jaw and his eyes flutter closed.
âAm I going to see you later?â he asks when Jim removes his hand reluctantly.
âYes,â he answers without hesitation.
âPromise?â he presses breathlessly, like a love-struck teenager.
âNever again,â Jim shoots back, the tiniest smile spreading over his face when Oswald finally makes his way back to his car.
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When in Rome
So hereâs the second of my series of romantic oneshots, this time focusing on the professional and personal relationship of RiddleCat!Â
âHow long as it been since weâve been in Rome?â Edward asked from the other side of the table. âFive years?â
âI think so,â Selina said. The pair were sitting on the outdoor seating area of a charming cafe across the street from the Trevi Fountain. The marble statues were just visible through the massive throng of tourists that were crowded around taking pictures and tossing coins over their shoulders. They were in Rome ostensibly on business, but Edward had insisted on getting up early to see some of the sights before the tourists overwhelmed them. Selina supposed she could indulge him just this once. The fact that he was footing the bill for their lunch helped make up for being dragged out of their hotel at six in the morning. She took a sip of her drink and smiled at her partner. "Having fun?"
Edward nodded, then took a bite out of his cannoli before he responded. "I have to say, it's certainly an improvement over the last time we were here."
Selina rolled her eyes. The less they talked about that fiasco, the better. "That was your fault, you know. You'd better not be planning on trying on my suit again."
Edward chuckled and took another piece of cannoli. "Oh, you're just bitter that it fit me better."
"Keep eating cannoli like that and it won't," Selina teased. She let out a laugh at the offended look on Edward's face which gave way to a pout. She leaned across the table to kiss him on the cheek. "I'm sorry baby, that was mean. Do you still want to go to the Pantheon before we head to the Palazzo Barberini?"
A smile came back to Edward's face. "Let me get the check and we'll be on our way."
What a pair we make, Selina thought as they left the cafe and strolled about the Trevi district. The only concession Selina would make to the cobblestone streets were a pair of simple if still stylish black flats. Otherwise, with her black dress, wide-brimmed hat and her dark shades, she looked the part of a heroine from Fellini. In contrast, Edward was, while still dressed well, in much more casual clothing than he typically wore, without so much of a hint of green. Selina didn't even know he owned a short-sleeved shirt. He stopped them every few minutes during their wanderings to point out a landmark, or to spout off some bit of historical trivia, or to take pictures. Every so often, Selina would pull them into a boutique, or insist on getting a picture of the two together, occasionally stealing a kiss. To anyone else, they looked like a pair of tourists on a romantic holiday.
Well, who would expect that the Riddler and Catwoman, two of the most notorious thieves in Gotham City's history, would choose to take a job in Rome of all places?
After they had walked from the Pantheon and back to the fountain, he checked his watch. "Well, it's 2:00. Should we head over?" Selina didn't miss the trace of disappointment in his voice
"Yep, it's about that time." She reached out to squeeze his hand. "We'll have more time after we finish the job."
"I know." Then he set his shoulders and outstretched his hand. "Shall we, my dear?" he said in that brassy, smarmy way of his that entertained and irritated her in equal parts.
Selina smirked. "After you."
There were still tourists in the Palazzo Barberini when they arrived at a quarter past three. The art hung on the walls in a classic way, free from the barriers and alarms that kept most pieces in the Gotham art museum protected. Selina had admired many of the old masterpieces, but her attention was caught by the Holbein portrait of Henry VIII. She stood in front of it for a time, considering the artwork. It truly was a spectacular piece. She tapped a finger alongside her chin. And it was going to be a challenge to get out of here and to its buyer.
"I'll never understand the general population's fascination with the Tudors," Edward huffed. "No offense to Good Queen Bess, but her forefathers are somewhat lacking."
Selina shrugged. "Sex, religion, and violence. What's not to be fascinated by?"
"The Plantagenets are far more interesting. Or the Stewarts even. Henry VIII was a narcissistic, self-indulgent fool who if he were alive today would probably be the star of one of those tawdry reality shows you force me to watch."
Selina gently nudged him with her elbow. "Don't pretend you don't enjoy them just a little bit. Besides, even if you don't find Henry interesting, the jet-setting mogul who's paying us $2 million for him does."
Edward gave a quick nod. "Fair enough. You've had time to scope out the security?"
"Of course." The paintings weren't the only thing Selina had her eye on in the old palace. She'd been keeping an eye on the guards on their patrols out of the corner of her eyes, committing their routine to her memory, just as she had for the past three days since they'd arrived in Rome and had come to the Palazzo, at a different time each day to avoid suspicion. Edward had been doing reconnaissance work in his own way, both in the gallery and in their hotel room, hunched over his computer. "The guards change their shift every hour. There's always at least two at all times. How about on your end?"
Edward hummed. "It's all taken care of. The Paris Protocol is ready for tonight."
"Eddie, I told you I don't like that name."
"What's wrong with it?"
"Well for one, we first did it in London."
"Paris fits better! Think of the alliteration!"
Selina made a small, dismissive noise. "Eddie, baby, why do I bring you out in public?"
Despite her misgivings about the name, the 'Paris Protocol' went off without a hitch, and by 3 am, the pair and their ill-gotten gain were in the Roman penthouse of Massimo di Carlo, a trust fund bum (with an emphasis on bum, Edward was fond of pointing out) with a tan that would make the Gotham guidos jealous and far too much of Daddy's money to spend. He had the portrait in his hands and a gleeful smile on his face. "Bravissimo!" he cried. He handed the painting to a retainer and clapped his hands. "Now, $2 million, yes? Would you like a check or-"
"Direct deposit will do just fine," Edward said. He handed di Carlo a small slip of paper. "This is the account information."
"Of course." Di Carlo snapped his fingers and another attendant stepped forward. "Alexander, see that this is taken care of." He handed the man the slip of paper, then crossed over to a table with a bottle of wine and two glasses on it. He poured himself a glass, then he filled the other glass and held it out towards Selina. "Would you care for a drink?" Selina didn't miss the fact that while he was speaking to her, his eyes were on her chest. Or that Edward had noticed and that his green eyes were narrowed.
"No thank you," Selina declined, holding her hand up.
di Carlo shrugged, then sat down on his plush red velvet sofa. "I imagine that you must have many stories about your exploits. Perhaps I could persuade you to stay and tell me about them?" Once again, he was only talking to Selina. She had to restrain herself from rolling her eyes. Rich playboys were the same in Gotham and Rome alike.
"We really should be going," Edward said. "We've had a long day after all."
di Carlo ignored him entirely and raised his glass in Selina's direction. "Perhaps another $500,000 could convince you to stay the night?"
A noise from indignation came out of Edward's mouth and he stepped forward, no doubt ready to bash the spoiled brat's head in. Selina held him back with one hand against his chest. "Down boy. I can handle this." Selina then stepped forward, sauntering up to di Carlo where he sat, ignoring the smug look on his face. "It's been a pleasure doing business with you, Massimo," she purred. Then she leaned down and gripped him on the shoulder tightly, relishing the hiss of pain and the look of fear on his face. "But I'm not for sale. And for the record? Mine and Edward's relationship is more than professional." di Carlo's face went pale when the full magnitude of the mistake he'd made dawned on him. "I think we'll each take an extra $500,000 each as an apology." di Carlo nodded. Selina let him go and tugged Edward toward the door. "Ciao Massimo."
Selina woke up at noon in their hotel suite, $1.5 million richer. She stepped out of the shower and noticed that Edward was sitting in front of the TV, a smug look on his face. "Did we make the news?" she asked, grabbing a cup of coffee that he's prepared.
Edward chuckled. "In a way."
Selina arched an eyebrow, then turned her attention to the flatscreen. Her eyes widened in surprise when she saw none other than Massimo di Carlo on the TV, being led away in handcuffs by the police. The newscaster spoke in Italian "Heir to the di Carlo fashion line arrested on charges of art theft this morning in Rome! The police received an anonymous tip that the Henry VIII painting that was stolen from the Palazzo Barberini was in di Carlo's penthouse. di Carlo has issued no comment."
Selina turned to Edward. "Eddie. Baby. You didn't."
Edward grinned. "I did."
Selina shook her head and laughed. "Aren't you a vindictive little thing."
Edward shrugged. "That's what he gets for propositioning my girl. The best part is, even if he suspects that it was me, he can't say so without admitting he hired us."
"So we get $1.5 million apiece and Henry VIII goes back home. A happy ending all around." Selina tilted his chin down to plant a soft kiss on his lips. Then she reached up to ruffle Edward's hair and laughed again at the protest he let out. "So what's on the agenda today? The Coliseum?"
Edward's eyes lit up and he lay out his travel plans for the day, including a walk by the Vatican. Selina nodded her approval, and the two set off for their romantic holiday.
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Heroes and Thieves, Ch. 11
Title: Heroes and Thieves Fandom/Universe: BTAS, pre/post-RotJ flashback
Summary: A story about second chances, healing, and having hope.
Rating: PG-13, for references to character death, child psychological torture and trauma.
Genre: Romance/Family/Friendship/Hurt/Comfort
Word Count: 4,380 Previous Chapters: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
Also on ff.net and AO3.
There was a time when I was alone Nowhere to go and no place to call home My only friend was the man in the moon And even sometimes he would go away, too
-Ruth B, "Lost Boy"
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Before.
âBatman, wait!â
Robin was too late; Batman had already charged ahead by ruthlessly breaking down the door to the house with the sole of his boot. Â A low-key villain calling himself âCluemasterâ (whom Robin had incidentally never heard much of until now compared to the likes of Riddler or Joker, having supposedly gone âstraightâ for a couple years â at least according to Batman) had led them on a lengthy chase, and they ended up pursuing him all the way out to a small neighborhood in the suburbs. Â As they infiltrated the dwelling, Robin hastily checked around to make sure no homeowners were present who could be caught in the fray â or worse, taken as collateral.
Fortunately the room was empty, aside from their glaringly orange-clad target in the middle of it, reaching for one of the plasti-glass pellets attached to the front of his costume. Batman had already anticipated the move though and launched forward faster than the other, lurching a blurred glove into his opponentâs throat, which caused him to drop the canister as his body was slammed hard against the wall.
âYouâre under arrest for multiple counts of grand larceny, Cluemaster. Â Or should I say, Arthur Brown?â
With his other hand, he grasped at the bandana covering the lower half of the manâs face, which had already come loose from the force of impact. Â He jerked the rest of the kerchief off to expose a snarl under the guise, the owner evidently infuriated by the idea his identity had been so easily discovered.
âNow, whereâs the money you stole?â
Arthur sneered.
âWhy donât I give you a clue to its whereabouts, and you can figure it out yourself, since youâre so smart?â
Batman growled as he grabbed his foeâs collar, lifting high into the air, letting free-dangling feet flail frantically.
âI donât have time for these games. Â Either you tell me voluntarily, or Iâll make you confess.â
Robin was getting anxious by the aggressiveness in Batmanâs tone; making threats of violence wasnât anything out of the ordinary, but heâd been out of sorts all night, acting excessively and extremely hostile, leaping into enemy territory with heedless disregard to danger â to himself or those around him.  Sans his usual sangfroid.  He was starting to sound like that time Scarecrow dosed him with a gas that took away all his fear, resulting in Batman almost taking a henchmanâs life.  It had taken all of Robinâs strength to haul him back up after Batman cut the lineâŚ
The current captive seemed to be getting panicky too, as he quickly changed his attitude, appealing to sympathy instead.
âListen, Iâve got a wife and kid.  Theyâre asleep upstairs.  I just needed the cash to help support them.  Weâre in a bit of a financial jam, yâseeâŚâ
Robinâs conscience wavered, recalling the time they had to prevent a penniless man from holding up a drugstore in order to obtain medicine for his daughter, who was simply sick with a high fever. Â Of course this was theft on a much greater scale, but he still couldnât help having some lingering empathy â especially based on his own past experiences dealing with poverty.
âThat's one of the hardest things about this job, Robin. Â Sometimes we have to stop someone from doing the wrong thing for the right reason.â
ââŚDaddy?â
As if on cue, all three revolved towards the top of the staircase, where a young girl with golden curls â probably about his age â was standing in bare feet and violet nightgown, beholding the scene before her with baffled eyes, big and blue and broad.
âDarling, why donât you go back to bed?â Â Arthur choked out, his own eyes bulging as cheeks turned indigo as well. Â âYouâre just having a bad dream.â
âArthur?  Whatâs going on here?  I heard a loud noiseâŚâ
Robin swallowed as a woman emerged from behind the adolescent, gripping the girlâs shoulders as she drew her daughter in protectively, eyeing the pair of home intruders with fear and suspicion. Â The situation was steadily turning from bad to worse. Â He hurriedly bounded up the steps, trying to block at least the shorter oneâs view with his arms and cape, acting as both shield and shroud.
âBoth of you should stay backâŚâ
Batmanâs prey put on a pleading, pathetic look.
âNow now, you wouldnât hit a guy in front of his family, would you?â
While his quivering lips pouted, his pupils seemed to flash triumphant. Â Robin felt a sick chill in his stomach. Â Had he set this up just to take advantage of innocent citizens â and his provider status for them â as an alibi?
Whatever the reason, Batman wasnât falling for it. Â While he slowly lowered his fist, he continued to glower viciously at his victim.
âIâm still taking you in. The police will be here soon, they can interrogate you.  And if you donât admit to them, wellâŚâ  He leaned in close, crescent slivers narrowing.  Intimidating.  âTheyâll just have to call me.â
With that, he twisted his prisoner around, pressing head harshly against partition again as he slapped a pair of handcuffs on. Â Robin sensed the two frightened females peering over his shoulders, crying and clinging to each other as sirens started to wail outside, and the junior one almost looked like she was about to join them. Â He thought about reaching out to try and comfort her, but a cold bark from Batman halted him.
âLetâs go, Robin.â
âBut Batman-â
âNow.â
He was already halfway out the side exit when he said this, and, after a momentâs hesitation, Robin bit his lip and vaulted over the railing to race after him, cloak whisking out of sight just as officers began filing in. Â As they headed back towards the Batmobile parked in the shadows close by, Robin hissed his irritation.
âYou know, there were a million other ways you couldâve handled that.â
âI did what was necessary in order to get him to talk. Â The police should have an easier time of it now.â
âYeah, but did you have to do it while his wife and child were watching? Â This is exactly the reason Nightwing left you, remember?â
Batman blatantly ignored the bold declaration of disapproval as his pager began to beep: a message from Batgirl, requesting backup.
âArmed robbery in progress, escalated to a hostage situation over on the north side. Â Weâre needed.â
âDid you even hear what I just said?â
Batman brusquely cut him off.
âWeâll discuss this later, at home. Â Now get in the car.â
Robin grumbled, but grudgingly obeyed.
They never did discuss it though.  Concurring collectively, both Batman and Batgirl determined there were too many hired guns in the building, deeming it far too âriskyâ to bring Robin â the âkidâ â along. âŚPlus it was a school night.  So Batman swung swiftly by the manor on the way, dropping Robin â Tim â off unceremoniously at the front gate despite loud and adamant protests, where Alfred was waiting to pick him up and march him straight on inside to get changed and ready for dinner.
âAnd âdonât forget to do your homeworkâ,ââ Tim mimicked Bruceâs reprimanding voice with a querulous whine as the vehicle sped off, leaving him in the dust. Â âGod, he still treats me like such a child.â
The butler patted his chargeâs back consolingly, ushering within.
âCome along, Master Timothy. There are cookies and cocoa waiting for you inside â after you finish with your studies, that is. Â We wouldnât want to spoil your appetite, now would we?â
Tim shot an exasperated expression at the patronizing statement, but acquiesced. Â Upon entering, he immediately tore off the mask and tossed it on the table in frustrated anger, flopping sullenly onto the couch without even bothering to remove the rest of the suit. Â Alfred tutted, but made no remark as he disappeared into the kitchen, promising food would be served shortly.
As Tim gazed at the fireplace, he stewed over Batmanâs earlier reckless â not to mention downright rude â behavior.  How could he even be so cruel and insensitive?  It wasnât just the bossing around that bugged him, but he was genuinely rather troubled by Bruceâs mental state.  âŚTruth be told, he had a guess as to the cause for callousness.  Heâd noticed a common trend in increasing indiscretion (and intractability) after their latest visit to Arkham, when they stopped by Two-Faceâs cell following another escape â and subsequent suicide attempt.  Ever since heâd developed a third personality who judged himself guilty and sentenced to death for his sins, his condition had been gradually worsening.  It was to the point he â and his coin â had to be kept under constant watch and isolated lockdown.
Tim was never really sure how to feel about Two-Face (in the same way his chest was always confused and ached a little whenever he faced Clayface).  The man murdered his father; Tim supposed he should hate him for that. In addition, heâd even once mercilessly electrocuted Nightwing with a wire taser, forcing the senior superheroâs heart to completely stop.  âŚHad he not promptly administered CPR and literally brought his brother back from the brink of death, he might have lost another family member that day.
But, according to Dick, Bruce and Harvey had been good friends once â which explained why his guardian always bore a grieved semblance whenever they went up against Dent.  âŚTim tried to imagine what it must be like, to watch oneâs once close companion fight a losing battle against himself.  Clearly it was taking a capricious toll on the old manâs emotional and psychological well-being as well, making him far more mercurial and volatile â prone to violent vagaries.
Yet, even Tim recognized that didnât excuse him taking it out on others, especially when it interfered with their work.  (Frankly that didnât seem to be the only thing distracting recently either, given Batman and Batgirl had been ditching him more and more often as of late, citing his âimmaturityâ as pretense.  âŚBut he didnât really want to think about that right now.)  He was concerned about that girl as well.  Screw Batman, he shouldâve stayed to try and talk to her.  At least give her some reassurance after witnessing such a harrowing event.
Making up his mind, he snatched his domino from the counter and was out the door (cautiously evading the security cameras he knew were watching overhead) just as Alfred came to call him for dinner. Â Upon finding the parlor empty, and after exhausting all other options of where the lad might have gone to within the mansion (including underground area), the caretaker finally murmured in alarm.
ââŚOh dear.â
âŚ
It took Robin longer to get back by grapple alone, but eventually he made it to his destination. Descending on the rooftop from a nearby tree, he tiptoed towards a single annexed dormer window which jutted prominently from the tiles. Â Testing the lucarneâs latch, it luckily wasnât locked and slid open with relative ease. Silently slipping in, he was greeted almost instantly by an unpredicted punch to the face.
As he was thrown flat onto the bed, survival instinct triggered to roll over and try to fight back, but his own fists arrested when he saw his assailant was the same girl from before, glaring at him with mistrust.
âWho are you?! Â Some kind of creepazoid stalker?â
âWhoa, whoa! Â Itâs me, Robin. Â You know, from before?â
She stared at him, realization dawning.
âOh.  âŚSorry.  I didnât know it was you.â
The way she said it, she still didnât seem very impressed.
ââŚIâd hate to be someone you were expecting,â Robin muttered, rubbing at his sore jaw.
She folded her arms firmly.
âSo? Â What the heck are you doing here? Â Again?â
âI- I just wanted to check and see if you were okay, after⌠all that.â
An eyebrow raised.
âAnd you thought coming in through the window was the best way to go about it?â
ââŚIn hindsight that might not have been the best plan,â he acknowledged, repentant.  âSorry.  Being with him tends to rub off on you.  I apologize if he scared you earlier.  Heâs really not a bad guy.â
She exhaled, letting her limbs down.
âNo, my father is, right? âŚItâs okay.  I know who and what my dad is.  He deserves to go to jail.â
Robin cocked in confusion at this unanticipated acceptance.
âBut⌠Heâs still your dad.â
âYeah, and I hate him.â Her knuckles clenched, tightening. âHe just wanted to use Mom and me to get away with his crimes. Â Weâre basically just tools, a means to an end for him. Â Heâs a total class-A jerk.â
Robin blinked, unsure how to respond to that.  He certainly hadnât been prepared for this outcome.  An uncomfortable hush filled the chamber, which he idly noted details of as he glanced around nervously.  Heâd never actually been in a girlâs room before, so he wasnât sure what to expect.  He supposed the piles of stuffed animals and boy band posters were probably typical, though he was surprised to see some large prints of Superman lining the walls, and a bulletin board covered with newspaper clippings of Batman and Robin â mostly his predecessor â busting the Cluemasterâs previous petty heists.  She apparently wasnât kidding when she said she had it in for her father.  (âŚThe image felt almost eerily familiar, reminding of the days when he kept a similar chronicle in a corner of his own popsâ apartment, much to the old manâs displeasure.)
ââŚYouâve got weird taste for a girl,â he mused aloud.
âAnd youâve got weird fashion sense for a boy,â she retorted, nose wrinkling.
âHey, I didnât design the suit,â he huffed defensively.
âAnd who did? Â Your mom?â
Robin winced a bit, but bit his tongue.  ââŚWould you believe me if I said Batman?â
She sniffed. Â âI mean seriously, whatâs with that getup anyway? Itâs so bright, it makes you look like a clown.â
Fed up with her criticism, he started to skulk back towards the outlet again.
âLook, I didnât come here just to be insulted.â
A hand reached out to clasp his wrist, and he rotated to see her regarding him sincerely.
âSorry, I was just joking. âŚYou donât have to leave.â
He gulped, blushing a little at the light touch.  The last time a girl held his hand like this for so long, sheâd followed with aâŚ
âUm, okay.â Â He rubbed the back of his neck uneasily, growing tense as she inclined forward and grinned â before passing him by to hop onto the sill instead, sticking out her tongue at him.
âLadies first.â
He whirled around in shock as she stepped out over the ledge.
âHey, what do you think youâre doing? Â Thatâs dangerous, get back here.â
âRelax, I do this all the time. Â Besides, you jump around rooftops every night, donât you?â
He impulsively climbed after her, keeping a careful eye on her footing, hovering close behind in case she fell. Â But, true to her word, she did seem to have practiced this pattern many times before, effortlessly picking her way over the slates to the top, where she plopped down and petted the spot next to her. Â Indicating invitation. Â Tentatively, he took it and traced her wondering sightline to the stars above.
ââŚYou know, I used to dream Iâd see the Batman someday.  Drifting across the moon, dark against the night skyâŚâ  She hugged her knees to her breast.  âThis is the first time Iâve actually seen him in person.  For a second, I almost thought he was a monster.â
Robin remained quiet as she continued.
âBut, my dadâs the real monster. Â I know heâs hurt a lot of people â myself and Mom included. Â He doesnât care about us at all.â
âHow come she doesnât just divorce him?â
âShe canât afford a lawyer to kick him out. Â He still owns the mortgage on the house.â
She smiled bitterly, drawing circles on the shingles.
âAs a kid, I used to think about running away.  Getting on a plane and going somewhere far, far away from here.  Someplace exotic, where no one knows who I am or where I come from â like Africa.  âŚBut, I could never do that to my Mom.  Sheâd be lonely if I left.  Even though she has some⌠âdifficultiesâ, I still love her.â
She looked at Robin, who was still listening attentively. Â Patiently.
âSorry,â she mumbled in a slightly sheepish manner. Â âIâm just making you sit through my random rambling. Â I donât usually get a chance to talk to anyone about this, let alone someone my age. Â Having a lame, insane supercriminal for a dad isnât exactly something I can tell all my friends at school.â
âItâs all right.  I wish there was more I could do to helpâŚâ
He replied, feeling as utterly useless â hopeless â as when he came across a bunch of homeless youths in his hunt for Annie after theyâd gotten separated, the ragtag group of street rats sleeping together on a filthy mattress in an abandoned shelter; huddled under each other for warmth, sharing but one thin, dingy blanket between them.  (âŚThe kind of neglected kid he couldâve easily ended up as had he not happened to be so lucky, to be âchosenâ â caught before he slipped through the cracks into faded obscurity and was overlooked â forgotten â by society.)  There were some things punches and kicks just couldnât fix.
âYouâve already done more than enough, thanks.  Iâm grateful to you both for putting a stop to him.  âŚEven if itâs probably only temporary.â
âThere has to be something that can be done though.â
âReally, you donât have to go out of your way or anything. Â Besides, why do you care so much anyway?â
He shrugged, surveying the distance. Â âMaybe itâs because you kinda remind me of someone.â
She scanned his wistful countenance, scrutinizing closely.
ââŚWas she cute?â
âWhat- no. Â I mean yes. Â I mean, uh-â Robin stammered, flushing red as he was abruptly taken aback by the unexpected inquiry. Â She giggled in snorting amusement at his oh-so-obvious reaction.
âRelax, Boy Wonder, Iâm just teasing you.â
He coughed, regaining composure.
âTo be honest, thatâs not the only reason.  My dad wasnât much of a prize either.  âŚAlthough he canât compete with yours.â
âEhhh?â Â She gaped at him in astonished awe. Â âBut heâs so cool!â
âHuh?â  He puzzled for a beat, then it clicked what she was talking about.  âOh, you think that Batmanâs- no, heâs not my real dad.  Iâm not even sure I would even go so far as to call him much of a âfather figureâ actually.  Heâs more like a⌠mentor?â
It was her turn to listen as he ruminated, reflecting.
âHe saved me though. Took me in when I had no place else to go.  Gave me a second chance.  Iâve⌠done things Iâm not exactly proud of either.  If he hadnât found me, Iâd likely be dead or in jail myself right now.â
Sensing a buzzing interruption from his waist â a warning summons from the butler no doubt â he consulted the timestamp in the corner of the display, and cringed upon calculating how much interval had elapsed in his absence.
ââŚSpeaking of which, I should probably get back soon.  Batmanâs gonna kill me once he finds out Iâm gone without letting anyone know.â
Her forehead creased with contriteness.
âYou didnât have to go that far for meâŚâ
âHey, donât sweat it. Itâs the least I could do.â
She looked reluctant to end the conversation though.  He wondered if he was the first person sheâd ever been this open to about her feelings. âŚAfter some thought, he fished around in a pocket and pulled out another spare backup communicator.
âListen, donât tell anyone about this; Batman doesnât like me lending out tech.  But if you ever need anything, you can get in touch with me on this.  Iâll come as soon as I can.  âŚOnly if itâs an emergency though.  Heâll really give me an earful if he finds out Iâm using our gadgets for personal stuff.â
She looked down at the device in trepidation.
âIs it really okay for me to have this?â
âYeah. Â Itâs no problem, donât worry. Â I know how to keep a secret. Â And Iâll definitely stop by again sometime, so we can hang out some more if you want. Â Whaddya say?â
Her eyes lit up, and- without warning, she flung her arms around him in an appreciative hug (that very nearly knocked him off balance).
ââŚThanks, Robin.â
His hue embarrassed again, but he gently reciprocated the gesture.
âHey, what are heroes for?â
After an awkwardly long minute, she propelled back from the embrace with a self-conscious laugh. Â Once the rapid beating in both their ribs had calmed down (and sheâd surreptitiously wiped some tears from her face), she afforded him a somewhat odd look.
ââŚWhatâs wrong?â
âNothing, itâs just⌠Calling you âRobinâ feels kinda weird.  Itâs like a girlâs name.â
âHey, it can be a boyâs name too,â he sulked in indignation. Â âBesides, at least it is a name.â
She shook her head, concentrating intently on him as she contemplated. Â After a bit, she brightened with sudden brilliance.
âI know!  Iâll call you âPeterâ â since you came in through the window.  âŚAnd âcuz of the tights.â
Robin blanched as she pointed playfully at his leggings.
ââŚI think Iâd rather be called âRobinâ.â
âNope,â she cheerfully announced. Â âYouâre âPeterâ to me now.â
Robin sighed, but didnât object further to the nickname. Â It wasnât like he could tell her his real title.
âFine.  âPeterâ it is then.  âŚDoes that make you âWendyâ?â
She smirked with a wink.
âIf you want me to be.â
He blinked, clearing his throat as he stood up, almost stumbling over his heels as he backed up in haste.
âRight.  Well then.  Wendy.  âŚGuess Iâll see you around?â
âYeah. Â See ya.â
ââŚâKay, bye.â
ââKay, bye.â
He waved as he fired his grapple into the branches and swung away, and she merrily returned the motion. Elated, Robinâs spirit soared over heightening city structures back to the estate, performing as many flips and tricks as he could on the way.  âŚAlthough come to think of it, he had failed to ask for her actual name.  âŚOh, well. There was always next time.
Rather than directly approach the porch or cave entrance, Robin thought about endeavoring to sneak back in through the second-story opening to his own bedroom, so he could pretend heâd been there all along.  âŚUnfortunately, as soon as heâd made it inside and detached his façade, he bumped straight into a severely stern-looking Bruce towering over him.
âWhere the devil have you been? Â Weâve been trying to contact you for the past hour. Â Barbaraâs out there searching all over for you right now. Â Meanwhile Iâve had to help Alfred double-check every secret room and passage in the manor. Â Do you know how long that takes?â
Tim merely shrugged.
âI went out for a stroll. Is that a crime?â
âIn this house, it is. Do I need to start putting a tracer on your utility belt again?â
âNo, sir,â he squeaked meekly.
Bruce heaved a grunt.
âJust hurry up and go get changed, young man. Â Your dinnerâs cold already. Â Alfred made soup. Â Make sure you apologize to him too, heâs been worried sick.â
âYeah yeah, I hear ya, old man.â
âAnd did you finish your homework?â
Tim flinched. Â He knew there was something else heâd forgotten.
âYou had better get to it if you want to come patrolling with us tomorrow night.â
âI will.â
Before he vanished into the privacy of his enormous closet (which, in his own private opinion, was way too overly spacious â though no one would certainly hear him complain), Tim paused, calling softly back over his shoulder.
âBruce.â
âWhat?â
âThanks⌠for caring.â
âŚ
About a month later, a couple men dressed in black arrived at the Brown residence, carrying grim, serious auras and stiff briefcases containing various important-looking official documents. Â An obstinate Stephanie insisted on sitting down alongside her mother on the sofa as they discreetly disclosed the news she never once conceived sheâd get to hear like this:
Her dad was dead.
Apparently heâd cut a deal while in prison, and became a part of something clandestinely known by a select few outside those in power as a âSuicide Squadâ. Â Heâd perished while on a covert mission for the government, and â according to these strange menâs confidential report â heâd died a âheroic sacrificeâ.
Stephanie didnât know how to react.  What to feel. âŚHow she was supposed to feel.
As she sat in her room, trying to write in her diary but coming up blank, her observation shifted to the window still left ajar each evening, through which a mild breeze blew. Opening her desk drawer, she retrieved the hidden miniature handset from the far back, tucked neatly behind all sorts of stationery.  She had avoided using it up to now, afraid of coming off as an annoyance.  âŚBut she hadnât seen Robin at all since then.  No one had.  Based on what sheâd gathered from growing gossip, heâd been fully MIA over the course of the past few weeks, and rumors were starting to spread.  It was like his existence had been entirely erased, simply evaporated off the surface of the earth.  âŚShe was worried about him too.
She pushed the button, hands shaking in mounting apprehension as she elevated to her ear.
There was a long, low hum of crackling static, before someone (presumably) picked up at last.
ââŚâ
âHello?â
ââŚWho is this?  How did you get access to this comm line?â
âIâm⌠a friend of Pet- Robinâs.  Is⌠he there?â
An extensive gap stretched.
âThere is no more Robin.â
The pronouncement was deep. Disturbing. Â Definite.
âDo not contact here again.â
With a final click, the other end hung up.
She tried, repeatedly â desperately â to dial back â but the machine seemed to have been remotely disconnected. Â Slumping forward in defeat as she let go the last potential link â lifeline â she buried her face in her sleeves, and burst into sobs.
At length, she dried her sniffles and rose, dragging her feet to the wide frame.  Casting one last look of longing out at the pitch gloom, she shut the pane.  âŚShutting out pain, and all the brief memories associated with it.
âŚ
She never saw Robin again.
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He sprinkled me in pixie dust and told me to believe Believe in him and believe in me Together we will fly away in a cloud of green To your beautiful destiny As we soared above the town that never loved me I realized I finally had a family
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