#I HOPE TO SEE MORE OF CELESTIALSAPIEN BEN SOON!

[sheeperzzz]

Thank you for asking for the lore of Celestialsapien Ben! I wasn't sure if you would have wanted your name mentioned in the post. Your tags are very kind <3

No problem, friend!! I think Celestialsapien Ben is absolutely amazing >:) HE LOOKS SO COOL, AND IM IN LOVE WITH THE IDEA THAT THE WATCH FUSED HIM TO THE CELESTIAL DNA. HE IS SSKSISOSOOSOSJVDNDZBEBZJSBHDS/POS

[kikimora-apologist]

Ben 10 vs Green Lantern Death Battle

Now that it’s finally here, I want to get my thoughts out about this. Unfortunately, not many of them are good.

Positives:

Just having Ben in Death Battle at all is great. Samurai Jack, Goliath and the Ponies are the only other characters from Western Animation (Transformers originated in Japan, I think) to appear on the show, so it’s nice that they’re getting as much spotlight as other mediums.

The sprite animation was excellent. It was very fluid and there was even hand-drawn at times. They even created an entirely new sprite for Grey Matter, and the up-close shots were great.

The battle itself was action-packed and really fun to watch. Bits of humour were put into it too, like Hal using a Lantern fire hydrant to fight Heatblast. And as per usual, the episode itself had provided laughs courtesy of Wiz and Boomstick.

@twilightvolt Your brother did a great job! The voice acting for Ben was excellent, especially with the aliens. Way Big in particular sounded very much like he did in the show. However, the voice would fit a lot better for Teenage Ben than Kid Ben. I understand that they probably chose that version because it be easier to recognise, but the voices just don’t fit. Doesn’t make his voice work any less good though.

A kind of separate tangent, but it’s nice that RWBY is getting another fight with Weiss as a combatant. I’m not a fan of RWBY, but it’s nice to see another representative other than the main character Yang.

SPOILERS IF YOU HAVEN’T SEEN THE EPISODE YET.

Negatives:

Ben lost the fight. This isn’t the problem by itself for me. Characters I prefer have lost their respective Death Battles before such as the Power Rangers, Classic Megaman, and Twilight Sparkle. The problem was the fact that he shouldn’t have lost in the first place, they didn’t research Ben fully, and that the reasons they did have for him losing were flawed. I’ll explain it in my other points, but it’s essentially a repeat of Bowser vs Ganon (Which Bowser wrongfully lost for reasons just as stupid as the ones here).

They had some major errors in the recap. They used a clip of Way Big fighting Malware when talking about him fighting Diagon (Which are two completely different characters. It’s like if Darkseid was called Doomsday or Freiza being called Cell), and said that “Overuse of the Omnitrix can horribly disfigure a users DNA” (This has never been stated before, not even as a joke or a rumour). They also credited Derrick J Wyatt as one of the shows creators, despite him just being an art director for Omniverse.

Not enough aliens were used. They stuck to aliens from the original series, with Alien X being the only exception. Some of them could have been used really effectively, like using Feedback and Chromastone to directly interact with the Lantern constructs, Nanomech being much more effective at hiding than Greymatter, having Toepick (a yellow alien who’s main power is creating intense fear), and just having Rath or Atomix being there at all.

They went against points and facts they had stated prior. They said that the Omnitrix could react to the speed of the Big Bang, yet Hal has no problem outspeeding its transformation time. They said that Alien X had no counter to time manipulation, despite the fact he could do it himself and even did so in the battle. The biggest one was them directly ignoring the failsafes of the Omnitrix. Even though they said that the Omnitrix will turn Ben into whatever alien he needs to survive, they have Ben defeated by Lantern scissors, which many of Bens aliens could have survived easily.

Hal won the fight by travelling back in time and attacking Ben before the fight started. Not only would this not work anyway for reasons I’ve already said, Ben would be aware of this due to the Sotobro Effect. This is “a ripple created in the timestream, that can be detectable by those whose abilities are powerful enough to perceive changes in the timestream”. As soon as Hal travelled back in time, Alien X would be able to sense it and stop him.

Alien X was extremely nerfed. A reality warper, with control over time and space, spends the majority of his appearance punching and kicking. They got his cloning abilities correct, but ignored the fact that a group of Celestialsapiens can make themselves strong enough to survive Multiversal and Omniversal level attacks. They have him almost kill Hal by slowly causing him to disintegrate, despite the fact that he can cause people to cease to exist in the time it takes to blink. They said that the only reason Alien X recreated the Universe was because he couldn’t stop it from being destroyed in the first place, but this is false, Ben was just unaware of what was happening. They also state that Alien X has no defence against mind control (He has three separate minds that act separately from one another), transmutation (He can already transform by himself, like that time he turned into a black hole) and time manipulation (which he can also do himself).

They ignored Hal’s biggest weakness, that he needs to recharge his Ring while Ben with Master Control does not. Alien X could have just trapped him in an infinite loop of time reversal until his power ran out. From what I’ve seen, Hal’s Ring can also be taken off his body relatively easily. Batman, essentially a regular human, can take it off. The Omnitrix has only been taken off by technological geniuses with prior knowledge of the device.

Final Opinion:

While I greatly disagree with the results of the fight itself, it was enjoyable overall. It was nice to see Ben in the spotlight and I hope it allows more Western Animated characters to join. And despite the outcome, people shouldn’t bully the creators of Death Battle about it. Yeah, they messed up, but they’re still people. It’s not the only time this has happened and while it does suck whenever it does, episodes like this are a minority. The majority of the Battles are better, and aren’t cancelled out by the bad ones. I hope that, like Batman Deadpool and Captain Marvel, Ben gets brought back against a new opponent with revised research. While Beast Boy is too outclassed, Blue Beetle would fit much better as he is evenly matched with most of Bens aliens.