#Horace dearborn

[sharraus]

What absolutely gets me about the Clave is that they are fully immune to making progress as a society. They signed the Accords with the Downworlders that basically amount to "we'll stop hunting you for sport, pinky promise." Yes good, excellent progress in not violently murdering human beings and taking trophies from their bodies.

Then the Circle is founded, which by the end of it is all about violently murdering Downworlders. Very few people seem to actually care until the Circle turns against other Shadowhunters in a way they *cannot* brush under the rug.

The punishments for this are for the most part laughable. And they are punished for the Uprising, which put Shadowhunters in danger, not just the Downworlders.

Not twenty years later, Valentine comes back and seems to have zero (0) difficulty finding Shadowhunters who'll follow him. The Clave flummoxed to put together a resistance to defend Idris. They had to join forces with Downworlders so it's gotta be like a fucking half of the Shadowhunters population that joined him.

They defeat him and immediately shit goes sideways with Sebastian.

Once they defeat Sebastian, it's like 5 years before the Cohort forms. Wanting to take away Downworlders' rights, register werewolves, etc. etc. etc.

Do you get what I'm saying? I'm saying there's a pattern of the Clave doing fuck-all to improve. I'm saying they need to put some effort in.

I'm saying they need to stop electing former hate group members into positions of power. Just because it worked out with Robert doesn't make it a good pattern.

[kaitcreates]

Camille

Horace

[weregonnabecoolbeans]

Scene from QoAaD that gives me a headache..

[omgserafinablog]

I found this on reddit and couldn't disagree with it. At first I wondered how it happened that Horace did not belong to the circle and was not close to Valentine. Now I understand that Horace a pathetic and boring parody of Valentine. Morgenstern would just laugh in his face if he met him.

[rhiannons-bird]

tsc is actually just about fighting evil old men (most of whom are also terrible fathers)

[i-am-trying-my-best-okay]

The way this format can apply to the villains in each trilogy means a lot to me:

[marrr444]

Maybe it isn't Zara's fault after all. Maybe it is because she was brought up into the ideals and opinions of the Cohort. Maybe the idea that Shadowhunters need to be conservative and the hate for downworlders are things she purely adopted from her father. For all we know her mother could have been killed by a rogue downworlder and that might have caused his hatred for them. Maybe she just hasn't ever analyzed what is right and is wrong and has had her moral compass created by someone else. One thing we do know about her is the fact she feels the need to be the best and she will do anything for it, even if it's not right or even legal. But yet again, that could be because she has learned that Shadowhunters as a kind need to be the best. What I'm saying is that we don't know if Zara just doesn't have an opinion of her own or if something has happened (other than being brought up by her father) that has caused her to support the cohort.

For all we know she could get a redemption arc in the wicked powers much like Jessamine did (yk, excluding the death part) even though I don't think that idiotic backstabber could ever learn to be open-minded. But maybe it just isn't her fault.( I want her dead.)

[swiftiesbuddie]

no but kevin zegers played alec in the mortal instruments movie

and dearborn is the name of a shadowhunters family in the books

[betterinblackstairs]

did yall hear about Horace Dearborn’s inauguration as President of the United States today

[starrieshq]

My Opinions On Zara Dearborn

In The Dark Artifices, Zara serves as one of the main antagonist, along with her father Horace Dearborn. While there are multiple scenes in TDA (especially in QOAAD) that show scenes between Zara, Horace, Manuel, etc, I wish that Zara was a more developed antagonist. All that we as the reader really know about her is that her mom died when she was young and she was raised by her father, she (along with her father and the Cohort) is a conservative Shadowhunter, wanting to maintain already present ideas (the ID papers for downworlders for example), she ultimately wants shadowhunters to be able to be superior over downworlders.

Also to clarify, I DON'T LIKE ZARA.

[kaitcreates]

Horace

Max

[omgserafinablog]

If Horace was copied from Trump, then Valentine was probably copied from Hitler. What did he say? That there is no democracy in the circle? ☠️

[princeofiron]

Hello! Are you looking for an 18+ tsc shadowhunter rp? We’re on discord, we tend to stick to canon, and we’re open to all the books. Below are some people we needed played! Link below dm for questions!^^

Tmi

Bat Velasquez

Camille Belcourt

Catarina loss

Isabelle Lightwood

Jia Penhallow

Jocelyn Fairchild

Jordan Kyle

Kaelie Whitewillow

Lily Chen

Lilith

Luke Garroway

Maia Roberts

Maryse Lightwood

Meliorn

Patrick Penhallow

Robert Lightwood

Seelie Queen

Valentina Graymark

Valentine Morgenstern

Tda

Aline Penhallow

Andrew Blackthorn

Arawn

Arthur Blackthorn

Cameron Ashdown

Diana Wrayburn

Diego Rosales

Fergus

Gwyn ap nudd

Helen blackthorn

Horace Dearborn

Livia Blackthorn

Manual Villalobos

Nene

Nerissa

Oban

Ragnor fell

Ryan Maduabuchi

Zara Dearborn

Twp

Anush Joshi

Jane Cartwright

Mason Hardcastle

Paige Ashdown

Thais Pedroso

Tid

Cecily Herondale

Charlotte Fairchild

Gabriel Lightwood

Gideon Lightwood

Henry Branwell

Jessamine Lovelace

Nate Gray

Sophie Collin’s

Tatiana Blackthorn

Woolsey Scott

Tlh

Alastair Carstairs

Alexander Lightwood

Anna Lightwood

Ari Bridgestock

Barbara Lightwood

Charles Fairchild

Christopher Lightwood

Eugenia Lightwood

Grace Lightwood

Jesse Blackthorn

Lucie Herondale

Matthew Fairchild

Oliver Hayward

Zachary Carstairs

Companion Books

Auraline (First heir)

Celithe

George Lovelace

Jon Cartwright

Julie Beauvale

Kadir Safar

Marisol Garza

Roland Loss

Vivianna Penhallow

[liebgirl]

i am currently experiencing the craziest high a human being can achieve just sitting on her couch i've just been taking deep breaths trying to chill out for ten minutes it's terrible anyway i need to Post about my friend alec. first of all he was there for me in eighth grade do not ever underestimate our bond i know i don't talk about him much these days and you might believe i don't really care about him but you have got to understand that my history with this fictional man runs deeper than any of yours and even when i had nothing i had alec. the bond a gay middle schooler who reads fantasy has with alec lightwood is completely indescribable unless you also experienced it but like. liken it to whatever you guys have with the angel from supernatural maybe idk. anyway the thing that has always gotten me about alec and magnus is that alec is a shadowhunter yes, but more than that he hates the government always. (i have problems with the show for reasons related to this but i am not talking about freeforms shadowhunters rn she is not my friend ok she is like my occassional late night hookup who hates me but the pussy is insane. sorry for that metaphor) anyway the way that at every turn magnus expects alec to be a Shadowhunter with that shadowhunter sense of duty and loyalty to their government and their way of doing things and their penchant for hero complexes, and at every turn alec is something different. because alec is someone who has experienced so many of the injustices of shadowhunter government and tradition, his parents were in a hate cult that they were manipulated into joining because of the ineffectiveness of their government and their desire to make the world a more just place, and they got out and were punished for it, and by extentsion their whole family was punished for it. because their governemt wants to show that it's all powerful and no one can go against it without facing life altering consequences. alec's best friend was raised by a man who taught him that being a shadowhunter was about hatred for demons, when really it's about love for humanity. alec is surrounded by people who have suffered at the hands of tradition, and he consistently turns away from it and doesn't let it break him or the peeple he loves. being a shadowhunter means having a duty to their cause, but to alec being a shadowhunter is about having a duty to the people he loves. in city of heavenly fire magnus is talking to luke and he says "sometimes it comes down to a choice between saving one person and saving the whole world, and i'm selfish enough to want the person who loves me to choose me. but nephilim will always choose the world" and later in the book when magnus belives he needs to sacrifice himself to save everyone he tells alec not to stay with him, and to go back to the world, and alec says "i don't want the world, i want you" and it makes me crazy and i think about it like once a week every week my whole life. he doesn't want the world! because the world without love is meaningless!! alec is a shadowhunter and he will always be a shadowhunter and a hero but there's no point to being a hero if there's no love... he doesn't care about duty half as much as he cares about love. and that is always what sets alec apart as a shadowhunter and as a leader, in queen of air and darkness (helena this is maybe a spoiler but don't worry about it it's not going to ruin your experience with tda if you know this) he gets voted as the new consul to represent the half of the clave that isn't part of horace dearborn's new hate group (shadowhunters always have hate cults it's like their thing it's like how americans have white supremacists. actually horace and zara dearborn are literally an allegory for trump, remember tda is a book series born out of the trump era, qoaad came out in 2018)

and the crucial thing about alec agreeing to be the consul was that he was NOT going to be a traditional consul. he was never going to do the ceremony and tradition bullshit their society likes to demand from it's government officials, alec saw his father get caught up in shadowhunter government and he watched him die for it and he would never involve himself in those traditions. he hates the inhumanity of shadowhunter tradition, that is literally the entire point of tmi and clary, the entire plot of those 6 books is that a group of young peple who fucking hate the government are instrumental to saving the world because their ideology directly contradicts the emotionless traditions of their leaders. alec is a leader because he is a revolutionary, not because he is traditional. that's what's so cool about it, he didn't just become the consul. he became the consul of a divided society and he is on the side of everything that is good and right and equal, while the other side wants to hide in tradition and rot away. that is the whole point!!! love is the point!!! being a shadowhunter is about love! they were never meant to be perfect stoic warriors, they were created out of love for humanity, they exist to protect people, to bring some level of peace to the world, and through time they forgot that, and alec (and clary) are the people that lead them back to remembering why they do what they do, why they fight this endless war, why they have to keep doing it. god. just truly one of the characters of all time. i need to just hit post now this is getting crazy