#Hobie is THE character of all time!!!!
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I NEED to draw Hobie Brown I need to draw every single concept art version of Hobie Brown I need to just spend an entire week in front of my art program just drawing Hobie Brown
#ramblings of an arrow#AAAAAA#suffering and dying at work#unable to draw hobie brown#Hobie is THE character of all time!!!!#my good punk boy!!!!#I fucking LOVE HIM#like!!! This is the first time I've seen some actually good punk representation in media!!!!#where punk is kindness!!!!!#punk is sticking up for the little guy!!!!#punk is loving your friends!!!!#I am in love with this mannnnn#I could spend the rest of the year just drawing Hobie Brown a million times and I think I would be happy
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Hobie dono req for @nostalgicatsea (I’ve missed him dearly)
#he’s just so character of all time#hobie brown#across the spiderverse#spider punk#atsv#spiderverse#marvel#fanart#jacketpart
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a rendezvous beyond
and a halfway closeup just bc im rlly happy with how the bg turned out lol
#spider man: across the spider verse#spider punk#spider noir#hobie brown#noirpunk#SPIDER LESBIANS!!!!!!!!!!#they are both trans by the way#rebluvio also draws lesbian noirpunk go check that out!!!#but ive been wanting to do my own fem designs for a while haha#then. finally. brown-spider gave me the perfect inspiration#FAT BUTCH TRANSFEM NOIR CANON (im lov her)#i wanted to keep hobie’s usual wicks but then she just looked like. regular hobie#she got her hair down for a date but yall better know its in a pineapple most of the time lol#i like the power move of not changing their names for genderswaps so they’re still hobie and peter#maybe short for something longer idk#anyway they are the wlw couple of all time#classy girls who kill fascists… like what more could you even want#theyre still also nerdy dorks tho its intrinsic to their characters#cw alcohol#i guess?? since theyre in a bar?? sure#spiderdykes
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i don't think some people understand that hobie is like... actually an anarchist. and against capitalism and corruption and that it's not just an aesthetic or gimmick 😭
it's not like he clocks in to Rebel & Co every morning and does a funny little "capitalism amirite" in his london accent and goes to bed. it's his character's entire purpose n it's a shame that it's been so watered down
#yes i think its funny sometimes but#he represents an entire time period like...#as much as he jokes about it he's still all of those things#its not part of his character it IS his character#just some thoughts#hobie brown#hobart brown#spider punk#vee chats
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In: politically radical characters like hobie who are unafraid to share their beliefs and are firm in their convictions even when others judge them for it
Out: that weird thing that media does where they reform punk/anarchist/radical characters as if their radical beliefs are some kind of character flaw
#I talk about the former all the time because it’s my biggest pet peeve in media lol#nothing makes me more annoyed faster than a fuckin awesome punk character getting normie-ized#media stuff#hobie brown
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More Hobie GIFS!!! Today's theme:
Every time Hobie uses his webs! 🕸 (Click on the GIFs to make them bigger)
#I love making GIFs of Hobie <3#but it always takes longer than when I make GIFs of other characters cause every time I get to Hobie-#I need to watch the entire time he's on screen#even if I don't need the scene for my GIFs - if Hobie's there I gotta stop and watch lol#I just gotta look at him every time I get the chance#also slowed almost all of these down cause it all happens so fast lol#I like to slow them down a bit - it makes it easier to actually see the details in the scenes#hobie brown#spider punk#miles morales#spider man#gwen stacy#spider gwen#pavitr prabhakar#spider man india#the spot#spiderverse#across the spider verse#atsv#across the spiderverse#my post#my gif#my gifs#gifset
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i’m sorry but like do y’all actually like hobie or do you like a character to project on and treat you like shit in your self insert fics ?
#cade’s things#cade’s thoughts 💭#i love hobie believe me#but y’all just do not actually care about him#for y’all to have him written as beating on you#calling you all these bad things#and the amount of times i’ve seen smut fics where he fucks you til you’re bleeding or badly bruised like#what???#i’m not shamim no one that likes that but i’m just generally confused#do you actually know his character or use him as someone to take out your weird ass fantasies??#hobie brown deserves better#hobie brown#across the spiderverse#atsv
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POC women in media: demonized or ignored
POC men in media: straight up fetishized
#in light of the new spiderverse movie and how people have been treating the characters#i have seen Jess get called a groomer and otherwise ignored. Margo gets ignored. rio is ignored unless mentioning miles’ arc#we all know how Miguel has been treated. and frankly I’ve seen some really gross comments about pav and hobie and miles#and yeah I know Jess and Margo and rio don’t have much screen time. BUT#Gwen while not POC. she is a woman. and is frequently undermined in favor of hobie and pav WHEN SHE IS LITERALLY A MAIN CHARACTER#sorry I’m just tired of fandom sexism#but this post is not about that. it’s about the racism
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Everytime someone puts the Wrong Song in their character playlist, not only does an angel lose it's wings but a peice of my cold, overly opinionated soul claws it's way into the back of my throat to fashion a noose with my uvula and hang itself.
#Battery screeches#cw#I hate you Melanie Martinez in Six Littlenightmares playlists#I hate you Taylor Swift in Annabeth Chase and Gwen Stacy playlists#I HATE you Mother Mother in Hobie Brown playlists#I also hate you Lana Del Ray in any punk rock characters playlist#I'm scrolling Spotify for character playlists and every time I click on one I have to scroll through it all the way#And everytime I see a song they Would Not Fucking Listen To I have to click away#Or I suffer sever organ failure#spiderverse#little nightmares#percy jackson#annabeth chase
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i have a handful of weird headcanons that may be ooc but also make sense (bc people, like, change) because I spent like two seconds thinking about ATSV! Hobie's band and why he seems to spend very little tome with them compared to Comics!Hobie who only leaves his universe when necessary and then I thought of Margo's "here is better" and how that's the case for most spider folk and like, Hobie's band is definitely alive BUT,,,,, it's it driving me mad
#like WHAT WHERE ARE THEY WHY#a biscuit's rambles#hobie brown#spider punk#i have very specific thoughts and idk if i wanna share them yet but now it plays into the way i see hobie's character At All Times#next installment of my wmm au is gonna be a doozy istg
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hobie brown.
#saw atpv yesterday and i imprinted on him he belongs to me now character of all time#spiderman#atpv#across the spiderverse#spiderman: across the spiderverse#hobie brown#spider punk#films
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pleaaaase im nosy what were the spiderverse takes
hfdhldjlkads i got u
the first one was just weird?? and someone was insinuating that gwen and hobie were actually an item and hobie looking out for miles was actually him patronizing him?????? im not sure how u could get that read on his character but. aight. like hobie's a punk from an insanely oppressive reality so obviously the only reason he would look out for a homeless teenager and another kid who's getting beat on by the entire spider society is because he's romantically involved with one (sarcasm that is so much sarcasm). also like, isn't gwen like 16 and hobie like 20? hm. hmm
that leads into people just being weird about gwen??? u dont have to like her u can be mad at her for not being honest with miles bc yeah! girl has an honesty problem! she's also HOMELESS and her dad pointed a GUN AT HER of course she's gonna be conflicted about staying with the one place thats giving her fucking housing!!! also i keep seeing people who say she never stood up for miles but like she literally did. she's literally constantly arguing with miguel and jess about getting off of miles's back, is she right about not telling him? no. but peter b as a fucking adult didn't say anything either. she's a flawed nuanced character who again, was fucking homeless!!
not necessarily a take but people being so fucking weird about miles and miguel and hobie... very fetishistic. which others are also talking about but if i go into the tag and see another 'can you write something where miles calls yn mami?' im gonna start breaking shit
#these are like whole ass children#some stuff ive seen is trivial to annoying but some stuff is just like wow. yall are dumb#the hobie one made me so pissed lol that was from the clock app so what did i expect really#anyways hobie character of all time i will defend him until i die#ask#anon#for clarification i def see hobie as an older brother type to the both of them. or a good friend. he gives gwen housing and a community and#checks with miles to see if he has parents and see if hes been told about what the society is abt#like hes clearly looking out for him miles just got a lil jealous at first is all. hes the only one who didnt call him kid
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Finally saw the new spiderman and after all the craze that's been going on online abt it i expected smth spectacular, but MAN did i go even BEYOND my expectations how can a film be this RAD
#the bad guy is the bagel guy are you KIDDING MEE#canon trans gwen obviously best thing they could have done#that ending omg??? i cant believe theyre making me wait for a conclusion#and man donr even get me started on fucking hobie. character of ALL time instant blorbo no joke. man.#*dont#solar posts#across the spiderverse#across the spiderverse spoilers
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Man I was trying to be nice about it but I’m kinda over it like I genuinely think some of y’all only want hobie to be an adult so you don’t feel weird about calling him hot which would be whatever if you didn’t turn around and tell people who’ve been spiderpunk fans for YEARS that they don’t know what they’re talking about
#and lemme be clear there are obviously ppl who just saw hobie as an adult off rip#but thats a diff thought for a diff time#It is EXTREMELY clear that a lot of u don’t rlly care about hobie as much as u care about his interpersonal relationship#and It’s not even true care to that u just wanna have ur dynamics right#but like. u cant get the dynamic right when u don’t know the character#and It shows in how a lot of y’all either defang hobies politics or make him the meanest person alive#no understanding of actual punk values or even the differences between blk Brits and nonblk brits#so it’s all just squeezing the tidbits of info u know about the intersections of his identity to mash it into smth u don’t even know#It’s whatever ig
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bruh i still aint stopped thinkin about the Spider Movie sequel
#gwen's arc hits me real hard#hobie is the character of all time#miles remains my beloved lad and peak spider-man#i love love love the theme of defying fate because nothing is absolutely certain#gwen also is so fucking trans it's barely subtext given the flag in her room
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Hobie Brown variant OC:
I finally decided to make Symbiote!Hobie (nicknamed SH by Hobie, which over time turned into Sage) his own thing, cause I've made so many changes to him that I've decided he's just gonna be another version of Hobie from another dimension.
I basically came up with him when thinking about what it would take for Hobie to truly bond with a symbiote and this is what I came up with.
While he's technically Hobie too I'm gonna refer to him as Sage in this post to avoid confusion <3
Gonna start with his appearance and then move on to his origins and how he got involved with the Spider-Society:
Disclaimer: I cannot draw so I haven't even attempted at drawing his face cause I know I'd never be able to draw him in a way I'd like- So I did the next best thing:
(He has a normal face I just tried to find a way for me to draw him without drawing his face lol)
Pictured above is Sage and his symbiote K.A.T (and their symbiote form- yeah it's the same as Venom!Hobie cause I like the design lol)
He looks like Hobie but younger- he's around 11 when he's bitten by the spider and fused with K.A.T - he's around 12 when he gets introduced to the Spider-Society
He's got short hair as it was completely shaved off when he got caught by Oscorp - more about this under his origins - he wants to let it grow out after meeting Hobie and being inspired by his approach to his looks (he really looks up to Hobie but don't tell anyone I said that!)
His left iris is white as a result of the symbiote DNA being fused to him. He can make it match his right eye if he concentrates but only really bothers to do so if he feels it draws too much attention
After meeting Hobie he helps Sage get a few piercings of his own
He usually wears a hoodie and/or a mask to hide his face - he's super paranoid and does his best to hide himself from others
Never goes anywhere without his noice cancelling earmuffs - he's got enhanced senses due to his spider powers but they can be a bit of a nuisance since he's also sensitive to loud noises due to his symbiote...
He also usually wears sunglasses to shield himself from sensory overload as he was subjected to it a lot as part of the experiments he was put through at Oscorp - and thus getting his senses overstimulated can result in panic attacks, so he does what he can to avoid it + it hides his eyes as well
K.A.T (Killing Authority-opposing Targets) is Sage's symbiote
It usually stays hidden unless they're alone or around people they trust/already knows about its presence.
If it does show itself it'll usually stay on Sage's shoulder or sit in his lap, it's still tethered to him so it can't go that far without him - not that it really wants to anyways
The reason K.A.T takes this form is that Sage is a cat person and it used it as a method to make him like it more when they first "met" + petting it helped Sage calm down and still does
K.A.T is still made of the same goo as regular symbiotes so it does not feel like petting a cat at all- Sage doesn't mind but most other people get suprised when they first touch it
If it likes someone it'll rub itself against their legs and mimic purring noises - if it dislikes someone it'll hiss and arch its back at them
K.A.T is a more animalistic symbiote and mainly communicates with Sage by letting him feel its emotions instead of speaking to him
To avoid making the post even longer than it's already gonna be I'll link to this post where I go into more detail about the design of thier Symbiote form instead of describing it here too ^^'.
This was originally supposed to be a short summary but I've realised I'm incapable of making short posts when it comes to stuff like this:
Origin:
Sage is a younger version of Hobie Brown. (11 years old when bitten by the spider and fused with his symbiote)
Sage and K.A.T "met" at one of Oscorp's labs
He was living as a homeless kid (having escaped an abusive household a few months prior)
He was bitten by a radioactive spider while looking for a place to spend the night.
He got very sick from the bite and was easily captured by Oscorp goons looking for new test subjects in the streets
Despite his young age Sage is a more ruthless Hobie variant, in part due to his upbringing and due to his symbiote (and the trauma they both go through at the hands of Oscorp)
K.A.T was a new kind of experimental symbiote that was set to be terminated due to it killing all its previous hosts - Sage was their last attempt at fusing it with someone
They decide to fuse it with Sage as he was deemed indisposable due to him seeming more dead than alive - suffering from the venom of spider bite at the time - and thus it wouldn't be a problem if the symbiote killed him too
Since the spider bite was still changing his DNA as he got fused with K.A.T some of its DNA got fused with him as well as a "side effect" during the process
Due to this it's incredibly hard (if not impossible) to seperate the symbiote from Sage without severely hurting them both
His body develops organic web shooters when it fuses with K.A.T - the webs are black and can be shot from either of his 4 arms when in his symbiote form (they can also be shot regularly while in his human form)
Sage develops enhanced senses and a taste for human flesh after being fused with K.A.T - he also has enhanced senses from the spider bite - making it easy to overstimulate his senses and overwhelm him before he learns to get it more under control
Since Sage's gotten powers from both the spider bite and the symbiote they quickly become the subjects for many inhumane and painful experiments as the scientists futilely try to figure out how to replicate the symbiote (as they're unaware of the spider bite, thinking the symbiote alone is behind Sage's new powers)
The main scientist behind the experiments is this dimension's version of Peter Parker!
Sage eventually manages to escape the lab during one of their many tests- killing as many guards and scientists on his way out as possible - and eating some of them as well
As a result of their treatment at the lab + his past with his abusive foster family, both Sage and K.A.T have developed a deep distrust to other people - at this point they both consider the other their only friend
Sage goes back to living as a homeless kid, avoiding people as best as he can, but he's also got an insatiable taste for human flesh as well!
He will usually target anyone associated with Oscorp when he's hungry (if none are available cops are the next best thing- his dimension is just as corrupt as -138 Hobie's dimension)
He doesn't feel bad about killing but will still try not to harm civilians (emphasis on try- sometimes the hunger gets the best of him)
Due to his senses being extra sensitive + his paranoia from his experiences at the lab and his foster homes, he tries to avoid crowded and noisy places - This all leads to him being more active at night while he usually tries to lay low and hide during the day.
He lived like this for months until a certain event changed that:
First encounter with the Spider-Society
Sage's dimension is blacklisted meaning people from the Spider-Society aren't allowed to go there (cause a spider-person who's embracing their symbiote instead of resisting it is deemed unsafe by Miguel and thus best to be avoided)
Sage does still get introduced to the spider-society albeit through a rather unconventional way:
- One day a portal opens up and pulls Sage through it, sending him to another dimension as an anomaly
Having no idea about what's going on, and being scared and confused about the whole situation, he does his best to lay low and avoid other people.
Because of this he spends a lot of time in the other dimension before the society discovers signs of an anormaly - glitched objects like seen when Kingpen uses the collider in itsv, or the museum that the Vulture appears in in atsv
Sage eventually has his first run in with other spider people when his hunger gets the best of him and he becomes more careless as he turns into his symbiote form to go look for prey
Here he encounters Gwen and Peter B as they're looking for the anomaly causing things to glitch out in the dimension
Not knowing he's a spider person and an actual child, Peter and Gwen attack him as they always do with anomalies - it also doesn't help that Sage doesn't exactly look friendly when in his symbiote form.
He fights back cause these masked people attacked him for no reason so they must be bad guys and of course he's gonna defend himself - it also doesn't help that he's starving and thus not thinking clearly at this point.
Unfortunately for him, these guys have high frequency equipment to deal with symbiotes and thus they manage to subdue him, but not before he manages to fight back, revealing his organic webbing which tips Gwen and Peter off to him having spider powers as well
He's subdued and forced into an electric cage (which brings back a lot of unpleasant memories from his time at Oscorp) and sent to the Spider-Society afterwards
When he arrives at the Society he quickly gets overstimulated and has a panic attack and lashes out in a desperate attempt at escaping his electric cage - also seeing the face of the scientist who tortured him for months everywhere certainly didn't help
Gwen then uses a high-frequency device made to combat symbiotes to force him to revert back to his human form
She immediately recognises him as a young version of -138 Hobie
Her and Peter both panic cause 1. They realise they basically beat up a kid and locked him up. 2. That kid has a symbiote! 3. That kid is a younger version of another spider-person they both know (and who they both know has a very long and strained history with symbiotes!)
Miguel gets involved and a discussion begins about whether they should try and seperate Hobie (Sage) and his symbiote
- The other spiders mean well by this but Sage and K.A.T both panic at the thought of being separated - at this point they really view the other as their only friend as it's been them against the world ever since they fused
Sage, still panicking, tries to protest but they won't listen as they view him as a kid who doesn't know what's best for him
Sage is taken to the room with all the villains while they discuss what to do with him
Here Margo sees Sage and K.A.T comforting each other, K.A.T manifesting physically in Sage's lap, being hugged tightly by Sage as he promises it he'll never let anyone separate them
Seeing this, Margo takes pity on them and 'accidentally' sends them home before the other spiders get a chance to try and remove K.A.T from Sage.
Relationships with other spider-people
Some time later Sage has an encounter with Hobie who found out about the whole mess - despite Miguel ordering Gwen and Peter not to tell him
While Hobie isn't exactly a fan of symbiotes he first and foremost sees Sage as a traumatised homeless kid in need of safety and stability
Hobie offers Sage to stay at his boat whenever he wants (as long as he promises not to eat anyone while he's there), he also gives him one of his bootleg watches so he can come and go as he pleases (and explains that he can also use it to get home to his own dimension if he's ever unwillingly sent to another dimension again)
Sage declines at first but over time he slowly opens up to Hobie and begins to trust him
(He also secretly looks up to Hobie once he trusts him, cause who doesn't? He's an older version of himself who's got a place to call his home, one that he opens up to strangers in need such as himself, he uses his powers for good and not just to survive. He's not afraid to be who he is and draw attention to himself - something Sage has been too afraid to do ever since his time at Oscorp. He's got friends and people he trusts. - all things that Sage wants too but doesn't believe he'll ever have) Also he'll never admit that he looks up to Hobie but he can tell anyways
Hobie's the one that gives Sage his nickname, it started as SH but over time it turned into Sage instead, though he doen't mind being called Hobie as well, it's just easier to go by Sage when both he and Hobie are present.
He still doesn't trust people, especially not the Spider-Society after their first meeting, which made it very awkward when Gwen showed up to visit Hobie while Sage was there - luckily Hobie managed to interfere before they beat each other up too much...
(He trusts Margo a bit as well since she 'saved' him from the Spider-Society - also it's nice to be around someone who doesn't smell like food since she's an avatar and not made of flesh and blood)
He currently lives at Hobie's boat, switching between it and his own dimension as he pleases
Hobie did his best to hide it but he was rather freaked out by K.A.T's presence in the beginning, he did his best to supress it cause he genuinely wants to help Sage
Hobie mentors him in how to use his Spider Powers and tries to give him a moral compass to at least prevent him from eating civilians when he gets too hungry - He usually targets cops or people working for Oscorp but the hungrier he gets the less picky he is
Another reason Hobie took him in is because he knows ostracising someone won't make them a better person and while Hobie doesn't believe in deciding what's best for others he still knows life will be a bit easier for Sage if he doesn't just kill whoever he wants whenever he wants - impulse control is important when you have a cannibalistic symbiote in your body.
- Hobie still dislikes symbiotes but he respects Sage's choice to keep his and does his best to help him control some of the more violent urges that come with a symbiote.
Hobie introduces Sage to his punk ideologies and slowly introduces him to the punk community
Hobie also introduces him to some of his friends but it's a slow process due to Sage having a hard time trusting people - especially spider-people after his Spider-Society encounter
Some of the spider-people also have a hard time opening up to him because of his symbiote
But Hobie's good at making a safe space for Sage to feel like he can slowly start to open up to others
For the first time in years Sage feels like he has someone (besides K.A.T) he can trust and over time he starts to view Hobie as his older brother
And that's that folks! (at least for now)
To the one person who actually bothered to read all of this - know that I'm infinitely grateful that you took your time to read about my boy <3
- I initially tried to keep this short but I gave up cause Sage has been living rent free in my head for weeks and it feels so nice to finally flesh him out and write about him!
You know I couldn't resist making my first oc angsty - but at least he ends up doing better than where he started.
Hopefully you guys like him too! If you have any questions please let me know, I could talk about him forever <3
#help I think I have a condition where I need to make all my new posts longer than the previous one!#can't believe I initially tried to make this post short and then it ends up being 2759 words long...#wasn't sure about his name but I wanted it to be something else than Hobie#so Sage it is!#Also I really wanted the symbiote to be called cat or kat - due to the form of its physical manifestation#so I had to come up with an abbreviation to make it fit lol#also evey time I've tagged a post Symbiote!Hobie this is who I've been thinking of!#I just didn't have a name for him back then#just to reiterate - Symbiote!Hobie and Venom!Hobie are two different people#their symbiote form looks the same but that's it#Venom!Hobie is -138 hobie with a symbiote but everything else about him is still hobie#Symbiote!Hobie is Sage who's another version of hobie from his own dimension#hope there aren't too many spelling errors but it's 1 am here and I've read through it once already so sorry if I missed something!#gonna post this and then go to bed lol#I'm addicted to that angst but I tried to give him a somewhat happy “ending”#though there's still a lot of room for improvement lol#also this is my fist oc which is very exciting!!!#idk if you can call it an oc when he's based on an existing character#but I've made so many changes to him that I feel like I can allow myself to call him an oc <3#Symbiote!Hobie#Sage#hobie brown#spider punk#symbiote oc#symbiote hobie#gwen stacy#peter b parker#miguel o'hara#margo kess#across the spider verse
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