#Harnier

[ainchase]

reminder to self to post that youtube shorts from elsword youtube channel of solace receiving new year greeting from elesis and chung and there being two pairs of ducks in colors of harnier and solace signifying LOVE -- this is the only canon representation of them being in a romantic love and not some sibling bullshit

THEYRE KISSING

Anyway, they're the kind of ducks you see in Korean traditional wedding and in newly wed's home because it signifies lasting love (something about some ducks mating for life)

I plan to do translations of all the new year special shorts from them cuz it was actually really hilarious -- in fact I might translate all of the shorts from them

[cldr521]

anguish of the wavering

[thebeautifulbook]

GEFIEDERTE BAUKÜBSTLER: Charakterschilderungen aus der Vogelwelt mit besonderer Berüchsichtigung der Newtbauart drer Vögel by Eduard Wolf-Harnier (Leipzig: A. Anton, 1910)

source

[cherryblossomsandhydrangeas]

Personally, I don't find all that important. I think it can be interesting how a relationship can change the trajectory of canon, but, on a whole, shipping is pretty much tertiary, maybe even quaternary to me.

Fav ships would have to be:

(Sk8) Hiromi/Kaoru is pretty interesting, as is Tadashi/Kaoru but mostly because of their history with Ainosuke and how them having feeling for one another might change the story a bit. I'm personally daydreaming about some Kaoru/OC as well.

(Elsword-MMORPG) Ara/Raven, Ara/Solace, Ara/Harnier – can you tell I'm an Ara main?

Thank you for the ask!

[owenfelford]

Did I just see someone be like "Harnier and Solace aren't siblings btwww"

I have no horses in that race I genuinely do not care but what year is this oh my god

[lilith-devi-nyx-elsword-theorist]

Well guys, I had some doubt but I guess the new character is female.

But now the real thing is, who is her master road? I'm reblogging my one post about one of my many theories of what the classes will be like. But I want to make some changes.

I know Glaive is not a master. but Can you imagine a Henir insignia?

So

Path 1 - is more with Glaive.

Path 2 - Rosso and Denif

Path 3 - Gaia and Ventus

Path 4 - Harnier/Hernia and Solace.

One of my other theories I have posted a few weeks back where it's a " Henir Order" member, who's only learning about the recent events of Henir's Order.

But what if they're a server of Henir, but is misunderstood?

No one would trust her the second she says " I'm part of Henir."

hence her classes names and skills passives would make references to Gods.

There are other theories one of them I enjoy is what if she's a dragon which 100% I WILL CHANGE MY MAINS FOR HER! You all don't understand, I play Fire Emblem for a reason, I want to be Dragon no matter what, I will Dragon I will Astra Magic everything in my path---

Anyways I shouldn't hype too much for these theories as I'm only archiving any leftover info left behind or hidden lores we never got to or stuff that's been removed to be mentioned as a " Did you know about this old Elsword history" types of moments.

A personal want, so I don’t know if many would agree.

A personal want I would love to see, is an Egyptian based character. She would be a good addition but thats just me.

but her four paths reference the Egyptian God(dess)’s in design, and passives. I don’t know in my opinion would be pretty nice.

humm…. Ra’s Inheritor no……… hm….. making up names for them are difficult.

But the character takes all El Masters *exception of Adrian.* Each Path focuses on each of the Masters in a group. 1st Path - Solace, Noah (if applicable) if not Noah, then Solace would master with the character maybe we can have Harnier help but that’s just me. 2nd Path - Denif, Rosso. 3rd - Gaia, Ventus. 4th - Harnier/Hernia

oh wait we have enough characters everyone will tell me but I’m sorry but when these things are interesting then they are interesting in my book, I been on a trail of mytho’s, legends and stories that could interpret.  Oh another one would be an Aztec or Aztec like character.

[elsgraphics]

⋆ hernia solace icons

300 x 300.

likes / reblogs appreciated!

request here.

[rekindled-fire]

OHHHHHHHH MY FUCKING GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[kazaashamiko]

05.12

[ainchase]

KR Elsword Customer Support: Perihart and Harnier are NOT step-siblings

Hello,

Thank you for contacting Elsword Customer Support.

We sincerely apologize that it took so long to give you a reply because the query you’ve submitted required confirmation from the appropriate department.

Firstly, although Harnier was brought into the Solace Clan, she did not become part of the family through a formal adoption process. 

As with our previous reply, Perihart and Harnier simply grew up together as close as siblings would but without being tied in a legal familial bond (i.e., Perihart and Harnier are not step-siblings!!)

The NA website’s use of the word “step-siblings” was an attempt to simplify their rather complicated relationship because there isn’t exactly a word in the American culture to clearly describe this kind of concept.

Thank you.

That’s it. That’s the post.

Oh and let me remind you Perihart and Harnier never considered each other siblings because they never have and I will prove my point if you keep reading:

I’ve written about this twice already:

Perihart and Harnier - Clan doesn’t mean what you think it is

Perihart and Harnier never considered each other siblings

My previous posts’ reasons for saying Perihart and Harnier are not step-siblings (and therefore NA Elsword is wrong) are as follows:

1. 가문 doesn’t mean immediate family in Elsword

It’s 솔레스 가문 and 가문 (家門 - かもん ), while the dictionary definition of the word is “family,” it’s more like a clan. The “family” you’re thinking of is 가족 (家族 - かぞく). And when I say clan, I mean like... Clans in Naruto. 가문 is not a “family” in a similar sense as an immediate family. The clan in the Elsword universe included everyone from servants to the immediate families of the Solace Clan.

When they say “Solace family” in Elsword, they didn’t mean this:

2.  If Harnier considered Perihart her brother, she wouldn’t have called Perihart “Lord Perihart” (페리하트 님 = Perihart nim = Perihart sama) when they first met

3. Perihart is 4 years older than Harnier and if they considered each other siblings then Harnier would’ve called Perihart “older brother” (오빠 = oppa = older brother)

And for all you culturally ignorant people who said “just because she didn’t call him oppa doesn’t mean they’re not siblings,” you are so disrespectful. You can’t apply your experience from your own culture to make sense of another culture you clearly do not understand. Let me explain what the hell I mean.

Everyone, and I mean everyone, in the Elsword universe, follows and adheres to Korean culture when it comes to addressing someone. If they don’t, then that was intentional -- in order to appear more rude because that’s what that character is. If they are sufficiently close enough, the younger characters call their older friends “hyung /oppa/ nuna/ unni” even IF THEY ARE NOT RELATED. Why? Because otherwise you are perceived as rude and ignorant.

Elsword and calls Elesis and Rena “noona” which means “older sister.”

Elsword and calls Raven and Ciel “hyung” which means “older brother.”

Note Elsword doesn’t call other people he doesn’t particularly consider “older” than him any of those titles - Lu, Ain, other NPCs - and he can come off as an unruly brat. Chung ends up calling Ain hyung though.

Aisha calls Rena Elesis “unnie” which means “older sister”

Ara calls her brother “orabuni” (오라버니) which is an archaic form of “oppa” (older brother) in Korean.

Laby adorably calls everyone by their names and even though it’s rude af people consider her like a child who doesn’t really fully understand these things and they don’t reprimand her for it.

Noah always always always says “hyung” when talking about Harque.

There are obviously more characters that I didn’t list

You can get smacked by your family members for calling your seniors by their first name without adding the proper title, because it is EXTREMELY RUDE. It means you see yourself as an equal even though you are a junior and you need to show them respect. Those who think this is stupid and act disrespectful are highly highly frowned upon. Noah saying “Harque” without adding “hyung” at the end would mean he’s willfully disrespecting his brother who he looks up to a lot, which uh, makes no sense. He would never.

Listen, this shit happens even with twins who are born on the same goddamn day. The first one that comes out of mother’s womb is considered the older one and is expected to act like the older one. That’s how seriously they take this shit.

4. They call each other freely with their first names as if they’re friends and 0 formal speech used ever since Perihart asks her to not call him “Lord Perihart” bullshit. They wouldn’t do that shit if they considered each other siblings.

They literally would not. THEY LITERALLY WOULD NOT BE DOING THIS IF THEY CONSIDERED EACH OTHER SIBLINGS.

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I even talked to someone who worked in KOG NA and I was told they don’t get detailed character bio or reference materials to fully understand more than what they can get from the in-game string in excel files they receive to translate. Did PM/Marketing team receive something the translators didn’t? That’s what I first assumed, because why else would they write something that’s not clearly described in the actual game itself? The game never said Harnier was adopted. But why would they write on their website that they are step-siblings? 

Turns out someone was just writing out of their ass.

A long time ago, when the El was whole and stable, Fenriart and Hernia were step-siblings that were part of the Solace Clan. Fenriart was a gifted user of El energy and was poised to become the Master of the Sun. The events that would start it all unfolded when he encountered his step-sister, Hernia, being bullied by their step-brother, Sigmund. It would happen frequently where Fenriart would keep Sigmund from actively harming Hernia. It was through this series of events that the two found out about their shared Rubenian Bloodline through the necklaces which they inherited from their mothers and the two eventually shared a bond.

(https://elsword.koggames.com/elysion-dungeons-6-7 wow it’s still there)

If you have reached this far and you still think Perihart x Harnier is incest

uh

They’re not step-siblings because harnier was never adopted into the family

They have never considered each other siblings for reasons I have listed above

This was literally never a problem with Korean and Japanese (and I guess other Asian servers with similar culture) because they understood in context of the actual game, that they never saw that Harnier and Perihart are like siblings and consider each other as siblings

Only people who don’t understand this kind of culture are labeling this as incest

And if even at this point you still think they are step-siblings and it’s incest, all I can say is

Why do you want them to have an incestuous relationship so badly? Why do you so desperately love incest that you want to ignore all, not only cultural, but also clear factual evidence proving otherwise?

Why are you obsessed with incest? 

[yskai]

[amacchu]

[ask-tony-the-alp]

"Ja. Tonius Zopfious von harnier."

"Hey, Hey youse! Ja I's talking to youse!" A skunk with a bowler hat approached Crafie with a smile

"huh? Who are you?" the pink cat squinted her eyes at the skunk

[imagineelrios]

May I ask for Solace x Hernia, please?

The life of an El Master is always busy. 

Just after Ebalon finishes his night shift, Perrihart finds himself running to the library to grab a book for Ebalon, getting sent back to return it upon finding out it’s the wrong one, and then going back yet again after Denif chews them out for “bad work habits”. 

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that he’s the youngest one on the job. Perrihart doesn’t know, and frankly, he doesn’t have time to know.

Ventus stops him before lunch to ask him to buy some sandwiches for the group, and Gaia asks him to pick up a coffee after he returns with the sandwiches. By the time he’s back with coffee, though, Rosso has already inhaled most of the sandwiches, quite unapologetically.

There’s more general chaos after lunch. A river in Bethma exploded, creating a waterfall that the people of the world below have taken to calling Bethagara Falls. Hamel is facing another coming tsunami - Perrihart glares particularly hard at Ebalon for this. And of course, Ruben is suffering from the harsh sunlight that only Perrihart can control.

Perrihart groans and begins manipulating the ancient arcane magic that moves the sky, slowly shifting the world from light to dark. Finally, his shift for the day is over. Ebalon comes back in, and Perrihart slinks out to the chamber of the El, ready to see his Lady.

Harnier smiles brightly as Perrihart walks into her chamber, where the heart of the El resides. “Welcome back, Perrihart,” she greets, reaching for his face and pressing a soft kiss to his lips. “How was your day?”

“Terrible,” he admits, “but at least I’m with you.”

From his bag, he retrieves a single packaged item and hands it to her.

“Do you want to share?”

Perrihart spends his free shift eating the last sandwich with Harnier, completely forgetting that he needs sleep, but it’s totally worth it.

[lilith-devi-nyx-elsword-theorist]

Just a joke but I would like to say as I said to friends by mistake that Noah's adoptive parents might as well be Solace and Harnier.

[neophix]

[MBM 133]

It’s been over a year since the last comic, hasn’t it.

Welp. Still not motivated enough to start doing this weekly again.

Anyways. There are a lot of characters relevant to the endgame with names starting with “H”, aren’t there?

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