#Gunnar is Straight and Will is Gay
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wenellyb · 7 months ago
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I have nothing against Buddie, quite the opposite, I think it's a very cute ship but in the show, I see them as platonic.
Anyone who follows my blog knows that I love to make parallels between shows and Buck and Eddie make think of Will and Gunnar in Nashville.
They're best friends, share an incredible bond and at one point they even raised a kid together (with Avery). They have shared so many scenes that could be seen as ambiguous but they're not, because that's how best friends act. Because are you even best friends you've never had someone assume you and your best friend were dating?
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But they're not dating, they have the strongest bond and have always been there for eachother, but their relationship has never been romantic.
That's how I see Buck and Eddie's relationship.
The reason I'm saying this is because I feel like Buck would have went for it if he had wanted to be with Eddie. He would have been more obvious.
He didn't have any problem doing it when he was interested in other men. He might have done it in a clumsy way or acted like didn't know exactly how to proceed but he "went for it" anyway...
Exhibit A: Buck was hitting on TK in the 9-1-1/9-1-1 Lone Star crossover. Buck didn't say "we should meet up" or "catch up", he said "we should get together". And he didnt say it to the whole group. He waited for a moment when they were both alone.
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That's why TK thought Buck was hitting on him, because he was.
Same with Tommy. Buck was flirting with Tommy way before their moment in the kitchen.
Exhibit B: Buck admitted that he asked Tommy for a tour because he wanted to get to know him, he even asked Tommy out, after the tour. He didn't say "we should grab a beer" or "do you want to go out for drinks", he said "you should let me buy you a beer". That man was trying to get a date.
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And then in Buck's kitchen, when Tommy still wouldn't get it, Buck told him point blank that he was trying to get his attention.
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I really think Buck knows what he wants even if he's a little confused about how to get there. And I never really felt like he wanted to go there with Eddie. Buck and Eddie are each other's person but it doesn't always have to be romantic.
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headmates-for-you · 4 months ago
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hello!! could you do a subsys of a few nature-themed mystical creatures (like jackalope, dragon, thunderbird, things like that)? full freedom, go absolutely ham with them all ^-^ tysm in advance
I hope these do. ^^
Name(s): Jaiden, John, Jackson
Age(s): 12
Pronouns: he/him, they/them, bun/buns
Gender(s): masculine nonbinary
Orientation(s): aroace hypersexual
TransID(s): transhybrid, transears, transantlers, transhuman, transpaws, transADHD
Source(s): brainmade, jackalope
Paras: autozoophilia
Emoji signoff: 🍀🐇
Positive trigger(s): cryptid hunting shows, tier lists
Ethnicity: Northern American (USA - white)
Role(s): child alter, joy holder
Name(s): Waawaate, Nakoma, Hurit
Age(s): ageflux 46-50
Pronouns: they/them, it/its, he/him, she/her, boom/booms, thunder/thunders, clap/claps
Gender(s): ambiguous masc fem
Orientation(s): pan
TransID(s): transwings, transclaws, transhybrid, transhuman, transgod, transcreature
Source(s): brainmade, thunderbird
Paras: magnaphilia, pluvuiphilia, storms
Emoji signoff: 🍀🌩
Positive trigger(s): thunderstorms, rainy days
Ethnicity: Native American
Role(s): caretaker
Name(s): Saoirse, Eadan
Age(s): 24
Pronouns: she/her, lust/lusts
Gender(s): cisfemale
Orientation(s): straight, hypersexual
TransID(s): transhybrid, transseal, transmerfolk, transhuman, transhumanform, transamphibian, transfae, transbipolar, transBPD, transdualpersonality
Source(s): brainmade, selkie
Paras: opophilia, aquaphilia
Emoji signoff: 🍀🦭
Positive trigger(s): pop music, swimming in pools
Other: [kelpie]’s twin
Ethnicity: Celtic - Scottish
Role(s): sexual alter
Name(s): Aine, Avalon
Age(s): 24
Pronouns: she/her, it/its
Gender(s): genderfae
Orientation(s): antiromantic bisexual
TransID(s): transhorse, transhybrid, transcurlyhair, transevil, transfae, transabusive, transharmful, transsh
Source(s): brainmade, kelpie
Paras: odaxelagnia, asphyxiophilia
Emoji signoff: 🍀🐴
Positive trigger(s): metal music, swimming in open water
Other: [selkie]’s twin
Ethnicity: Celtic - Scottish
Role(s): persecutor, prosecutor 
Name(s): Adonis, Apollo, Aeson
Age(s): 22
Pronouns: he/him, flame/flames, fire/fires, 🔥/🔥’s
Gender(s): cismale
Orientation(s): aroace, scared of intamacy
TransID(s): transwings, transredhair, transburnvictim, transundead, transclaws, transreborn, transselfsabateur
Source(s): brainmade, phoenix
Paras: pyrophilia, merinthophilia
Emoji signoff: 🍀🔥
Positive trigger(s): campfires
Ethnicity: Greek
Role(s): protector
Name(s): Fen, Gunnar, Wolffe, Monster
Age(s): 29-30
Pronouns: he/him, it/its, rot/rots, fame/fames, bite/bites, kill/kills, death/deaths, flame/flames
Gender(s): male?, dogboything
Orientation(s): gay mlm, mildly aromantic (tsundere)
TransID(s): transwolf, transmonster, transhybrid, transkiller, transcreature, transautism
Source(s): brainmade, fenrir
Paras: odaxelagnia, biastophilia, necrophilia, pyrophilia, thanatophilia, haemotophilia
Emoji signoff: 🍀🐺 or 🍀🪦
Positive trigger(s): historical tragedies and events
Ethnicity: Norse
Role(s): prosecutor, symptom holder
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megalodonio · 3 months ago
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Are you gay? Or are you like one of the other Dons where he has a dead wife or something?
No I’m a resurrected Gunnar and I’m straight
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lgbtfilmes · 1 year ago
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Russel Middlebrook está mantendo um segredo de seus dois melhores amigos, Min, uma brilhante garota chinesa americana, e Gunnar, um garoto brilhante e socialmente desajeitado. Nenhum deles sabe que é gay e que visitou uma sala de bate-papo na internet para conversar com outros adolescentes gays. Quando ele descobre outro cara de sua escola na sala Russel está ansioso para se encontrar. Ele está surpreso, mas feliz em descobrir que seu amigo on-line é o popular Kevin Land. Russel compartilha esta notícia com Min, que diz que ela é bissexual e tem uma namorada, Terese, que joga futebol. Min sugere a criação de um grupo Gay / Bi / Straight Alliance depois da escola para suporte. O grupo se reúne e decide o nome do Geography Club para mantê-lo privado. Na escola, Gunnar, que não tem conhecimento da sexualidade de Russel, convence Russel a ir a um encontro duplo com ele e duas garotas populares de sua escola. Russel está relutante em ir na data, mas concorda em fazer isso por Gunnar, já que esta seria a única maneira de ele ir a um encontro. Quando Gunnar e Russel vão em sua dupla data, Gunnar está feliz, mas Russel só aguenta por causa do seu amigo. O namorado de Russel tenta fazer sexo com ele e ele diz que é virgem e quer que sua primeira vez seja especial. Russel se junta ao time de futebol da escola para que ele possa fazer parte do público de Kevin. Russel joga bem e vence um jogo para sua equipe. Russel convence Kevin a comparecer à reunião do Geography Club. Na escola, Kevin e seus amigos jóqueis zombam de Brian Bund e Russel. Min vê isso e está enojado. Brian quer se juntar ao Geography Club, mas Kevin e Russel votam contra isso. Min queria deixá-lo entrar e está zangado com Russel por votar com Kevin. Min sugere que eles tornem o clube público, deixando Kevin e Terese nervosos. Terese termina com Min. Recomendação: Os Tempos de Harvey Milk(1984) IMDB
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andragoras-in-vanity · 3 years ago
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anyone who thinks slasher remakes post 2004 are good needs to be studied in a lab. or maybe theyre just straight and need to not talk about horror
#straight women will never understand horror rip to them but gays do it better#yes this is about the Netflix texas chainsaw#the gore isnt good its just cgi#bring back gooey corn syrup blood and killers that are actually interesting#i wont deny 09 jason was very sexy but hes not ken kirzinger and that movie missed the point of f13 anyway#but seriously ive seen clips of the new massacre and just....it looks so bad and all of those people need to die#im not gonna say tc3d was fantastic but it was easily the third best AND it had the respect of gunnar hansan marilyn burns and bill moseley#and it was a genuinely interesting story and like one of the few exceptions to the rule of 'victims arent everyday people'#which is the trend nowadays in slasher rip offs#this is going to be just as bad as leatherface 17#because you cannot relate to the kids that get killed and theyre tiktokers THEY DESERVE TO DIE!!!!#but they dont give leatherface enough personality to make him scary OR sympathetic#tc has always been terrifying because you KNOW bubba is a product of his environment but hes also SO BIG and strong that you cant get away#and you know this#old slashers were terrifying because theh could have happened to anyone#og tc is innocent kids on a roadtrip checking out an inheritance and they were normal humans for fucks sake one of them was in a wheelchair#new tc is a bunch of shitty influencers invading a town they had no right to be gentrifying#also its so fucking disrespectful to try to drop sally into the story#isnt marilyn burns dead anyway?#like yes it worked for Halloween because its fucking jamie lee curtis and shes just Like That and was set up for this#when she was in scream queens kicking ass like she always has#tc is too old and happened during the height of the serial killer fascination she would have run and never looked back#anyway i fucking hate new slashers (fear street and scream not withstanding because the franchise is still running)#and i dont think as long as theyre going to be bad and ignore the source they should be given money#especially by people who dont understand the draw of the source anywah 🙃#its about the revenge fantasies 👌 and the possibility it could be anyone#anyway i think i have to unfollow someone cause they just......are too straight to understand what makes a horror story good#also i have nothing against the collector it fits its genre really well but it is modern horror and idk if it should be called a slasher as#mucj as it is splatterhouse#but i digrest
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idrawtoomuch-gw2 · 5 years ago
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NOW WE NEED TO KNOW- DOES EDMUND LIKE GIRLS? BOYS? BOTH? NEITHER?
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Out of my 4 main characters that actually get involved in commander stuff;Edmund is the Token Straight
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castielcommunism · 3 years ago
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dean frequently being intimidated by other men in the show takes on a whole new level of meaning when reading him as bi/gay. like I think part of the reason dean tends to behave strangely around other men is that he has this generalised starvation for community and friendship that he doesn’t know how to express, which is often difficult to separate from his own sexual desires, since his primary way of seeking out affection is casual sex. he also has very few practical experiences of friendship in his life to draw from when trying to understand his own wants and needs. and on top of that, you have his chronic insecurity about his own masculinity that comes to the fore whenever he’s in the room with other men (Asa’s wake in 12x06 is a great example, so is 11x15 during his scenes with the wrestler Gunnar), intersecting with a genuine fear that they will find out he’s not manly (straight) enough. it’s no wonder this dude hangs out with older women and lesbians all the fucking time
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googledocsdyke · 4 years ago
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sorry if this is a dumb question but can u explain hays code
the hays code was a hollywood “morality code” that was in place from the mid-30s to the late 60s, and explicitly forbade a huge range of “undesirable” actions being shown on screen — most notably interracial relationships, anything textually gay, and very strict limits on curse words, blasphemy, depicting law-breaking in a positive light. it was meant to “avoid lowering the moral standards” of people who watched movies and it’s both deeply disturbing and so fucking fascinating as an indication of the DEEP american moral panic around film as a medium and its supposed “morality” (it also overlapped w the mccarthyist persecution of communists &/or gay people and a lot of communists working in hollywood were actively blacklisted at this time). it’s like integral to cinematic history & the history of subtext because when filmmakers wanted to get around the code, they would employ specific signs and symbols that indicated that “forbidden” things were happening between the characters. so like referencing or implying that two people (even straight white people!) fucked, rather than directly stating it. or particular coded actions like sharing a drink from the same glass, or various innuendo-loaded dialogue or shots of inanimate objects doing sexually-construed things. so like, sex onscreen became sublimated into these scenes that technically weren’t sex, but were constantly gesturing at it
obviously the hays code has no legal impact on what the cw television network films in vancouver in 2014 or whatever, but the legacy & framework of the code is still like. significant to the way we read film & tv today. and there are multiple moments where if you take that framework dean like.... has sex with men without having sex with men. off the top of our collective heads the scene where cas pours dean a drink in 6x06, dean and nick drinking from the same bottle in the siren episode, cas crying out at the moment of jack’s conception and dean grabbing his arm (pack it up mpreg!) and, imo, the process of dean watching the wrestling match and locking eyes with gunnar lawless and having him fall on the ground like. Are hays code-era sex scenes in a way. like i’m NOT at all saying it was intentional. or even if it possibly was intentional it was intended in a weird homophobic bait-and-switch way. but it is insane. like we’re sooooo many layers deep. like it’s a little tongue-in-cheek to apply the hays code to cw supernatural. but i’m also so deadly serious
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claratyler · 3 years ago
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11x15 has got to be the most dean winchester is gay episode omg. like not only does he get flustered when meeting gunnar but that is directly paralled to sam's crush on rio. Who then talks to dean and dean is normal about her. and then he goes to a bar where they show random Attractive Women dancing in the background and flirting with the guys, and he just walks straight to gunnar who winked at him earlier. Why? Literlaly why wink. "You're awesome" "tell that to my exwives". Why.
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nighttbound · 2 years ago
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I held off on this because THE LIST IS LONG but--I do have LGBT muse headcanons to share for June lol. Basically no muse is straight and many are trans 
Nel--trans and mostly gay
Sanguis--agender, pan
Lethe--agender, probably also pan
Corona--gender is Yes??, pan
Casca--masc or androgyne, uses male gendered terms but any pronouns or terms are fine w respect, pan
Nacara--bisexual
Major Panic--trans male, orientation is uh???
Cobra Commander--bisexual
Skeleton King--no gender lol, bisexual
The Alchemist--trans male, bisexual
Shademan.EXE--male for all intents and purposes, possibly biromantic but likely asexual
Felix Faust--bisexual
Psycho Pirate--bisexual
Gregoria--bisexual
Aqua Seneschal--??? orientation is UHHHH???
Calypso--bisexual
Lord Licorice--bisexual
Mr Nobody--gender is no but yes if its funny, gay?? unsure
Chairface--bisexual
No Heart--ew don’t touch me bi but wont admit it
Prince Aragon--could be bi, leans towards men maybe?
Gunnar Maelstrom--bi, probably, definitely likes men
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according-to-the-laura · 3 years ago
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StackedNatural Day 122: 11x15
StackedNatural Masterpost: [x]
February 24, 2022
11x15: Beyond the Mat
Written by: John Bring & Andrew Dabb
Directed by: Jerry Wanek
Original air date: February 24, 2016
Plot Synopsis:
Sam and Dean attend a wrestling match to relive one of their fondest memories, but when a wrestler turns up dead, they suspect foul play.
Features:
Top Notch Wrestling, the absolute debasement of Crowley, Dean’s giant crush on Gunnar Lawless, Dean’s wrestling fantasy, another Hand of God.
My Thoughts:
I was not expecting to like this episode much because I’m not into wrestling at all, but guys. This episode is just extremely gay.
Even as a standalone scene, the moment that Dean meets Gunnar Lawless for the first time is difficult for me to read as heterosexual. I get that straight men are weird about wrestlers and people they idolize, but come on. But THEN you pair it with Sam having a similar (but much more restrained) interaction with Rio where it is basically openly acknowledged between Sam and Dean afterwards that he’s attracted to her. And then on top of everything we have the scar-comparison scene that will be replayed by Claire and Kaia in 13x10 Wayward Sisters, where we know that Claire at least textually fell in love with Kaia and it’s implied that her feelings are returned. Insane show for insane people. Screenshot from the groupchat when I was halfway through this episode:
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It’s not shocking that John was really into the hyper-masculine sport of wrestling, and I really liked the moment where the dad sitting behind them was compared to John for being kind of a careless parent. I had a devastating lightbulb moment remembering that Dean started wrestling at school in 9x07 Bad Boys. Even when he was away from John and getting to live like a normal kid he was still trying to win his approval. :(
The Crowley plot was fun even if it felt obvious (to me at least) that Simmons was walking him into a trap. I liked the flip of power going back and forth between them. I liked that he had a bunch of the Carver Edlund Supernatural books scattered around his storage unit. I liked Crowley getting to be in his suit again.
I really love that the last scene was explicitly about Dean’s feelings about Cas. There’s a formula that this episode follows well. The Brother Moment™ at the end of each monster of the week or case episode reveals to us the source of the stressful emotions one or both brothers are experiencing. Dean starts the episode looking for excuses to get away from the life because of stress, and he finishes it admitting that it’s because of finding out that Cas is possessed by Lucifer but reaffirming that they’re going to keep fighting. This is the point of the season that I’ve been really looking forward to watching since I haven’t seen season 11 before; from what I’ve gathered just existing on the internet, this is the point where the contrast between his drive to help Cas and his compulsion to love Amara gets really highlighted. I’m excited!
Notable Lines:
“You’re not a slave, a dog. You’re Crowley, and the Devil should be afraid of you.”
“You’re nothing but Dean Winchester’s number-one fan.”
“We’re gonna win. We’re gonna save Cas, we’re gonna ice the Devil and we’re gonna shank the Darkness. And anyone that gets in our way, well, God help them.”
Laura’s (completely subjective) Episode Rating: 8.3
IMdB Rating: 7.8
In Conclusion: Did y’all catch El Sol in the bar when Dean was sick after testing all the wrestlers with Holy Water? He was testing the wrong people.
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wenellyb · 5 months ago
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Similarities between Buck and Will Lexington's (Nashville) storylines:
Buck and Will are both very close to their best friends, who are Straight (Will even kissed Gunnar once but now they joke about it), but it has always been made clear that there was nothing romantic between them.
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Same for Buck and Eddie who are bery close but it has been made clear there is nothing romantic between them.
At some point Will, Gunnar and Avery were all living under the same roof, helping Avery take care of his daughter, just like Buck helps Eddie with Chris.
Buck and Will both found silly excuses to spend more time with their crush (respectively Tommy and Kevin). Will saying his and Kevin's song wasn't good enough so he could keep working with Kevin. And Buck trying to get invited to the basketball game and when it didn't work with Eddie he tried with Chimney.
When Buck and Will thought their plan had failed, both Kevin and Tommy came unannounced to their houses to have a heart to heart.
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And then Buck and Will both confessed their feelings and explained that their stupid behavior was due to them having a crush on them and then they shared a very romantic and sensual kiss.
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The similarities end there because where Will was Gay and closeted at the beginning of their relationship, Buck is Bi and came out quite quickly after he started to date Tommy but Will and Kevin have always been pne of my favorite couples and one of the reason is the softness and beauty of their first kiss.
I saw that softness and beauty again in Buck and Tommy's scenes in episode 4.
Does anyone even remember Nashville??
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themeasureofasim · 4 years ago
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Ehm, could you look at the camera guys? After the Clevelands, it's the DeBateaus' (DeBateaux?) turn. I've never played them either so it's trait randomizer time again, and I'm pretty happy with the results. Tara is artistic and handy, which sounds like I should buy her a pottery wheel or a toy bench, though her predestined hobby is fitness. She has been very lucky of being adopted into Belladonna Cove’s wealthiest family.
Both father and daughter are slobs (and they really are), so having a butler is a must although he spends 80% of his working hours wandering around Tara's bathroom for no reason. I've also randomized their gender preference and Armand rolled gay, so no wonder why their marriage with Jessica didn't work. He’s shy but also brave, and a great kisser, and being a family sim I’d guess he’d want to find a partner before the end of the round, although he’s a bit workaholic.
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It’d be great if said partner wasn’t a straight romance sim who I ship with Connor Weir so hard, so let’s ignore this.
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Obviously Armand wanted to slow dance with someone. Since he doesn't have any bolts with anyone yet, he pays for a blind date. He can spare the money so I pay 5000 this time, I don’t want to risk another terrifying date! Let’s see which perfect match we get for those 5000!
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Ehm. Isn’t that Gunnar Roque?
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Oh my. He is. Is he gay in this gameplay?
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I see. Maybe Armand just likes straight romance sims?
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Hmm, I guess he doesn’t. It looks like Gunnar has lied in his Simder profile, does he just want Armand’s money, just like Jessica did? That’s disgusting Gunnar, and you’ve just earned a Fortune secondary I guess.
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This time I ended the date before it became a tragedy, it wasn’t going anywhere anyway.
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kimminstudying · 5 years ago
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Case Study - 001
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Warning: GRAPHIC CONTENT
Note: I chose to do this one first because for my Forensic Science class we had to investigate a case of our choice, write and report, and do a powerpoint for it and this was basically my final project for the class. Enjoy!
The span of these crimes was from 1983-1985 and the victims were lured to a bunker in the woods through ads that were posted of stolen goods. If the respondents were male, they were beaten, robbed from, and then shot often within a day of their capture. Female respondents were tied up, tortured, forced into submission, then raped. They would be shot and killed after their “services were no longer needed.”  Families or couples that were brought to the bunker had the same outcomes.
Charles Ng (pronounced as ing) was born Christmas Eve of 1960 in Hong Kong. Ng was a compulsive Kleptomaniac as a child and he was sent to several boarding schools in both China and London. He was granted a student visa in 1978 to study in the U.S and his parents hoped a new life in another country would set their son straight. Briefly attending the College of Notre Dame, Ng dropped out after one semester to join the Marines. 
To do so, Ng lied about his birthplace in order to keep his criminal record a secret. He was caught stealing guns, explosives, and other weaponry before being sentenced to 18 months in Leavenworth prison after his dishonorable discharge from the U.S Marines. 
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Leonard Lake was born on October 29, 1945, in San Francisco. His parents separated when he was six years old, leaving him and his siblings in the care of his grandparents. 
Growing up, Lake was described as very cunning but sinister as he would collect mice and other small animals to dissolve them in acidic chemicals. He developed a pornography addiction during this time and Lake would force his sisters into taking sexual photos of themselves or performing sexual acts in exchange for protection from their abusive brother Dom. This incestual behavior was encouraged by Lake’s grandmother. 
Lake attended the University of San Jose State but also dropped out after a single semester. He also joined the Marines in 1965 when he was 19 years old and served two tours as a radar operator during Vietnam. He received a medical diagnosis of Schizoid Personality Disorder, an uncommon condition in which people avoid social activities and consistently shy away from interaction with others and also have a limited range of emotional expression, which caused him to be medically discharged in 1971. 
After his diagnosis, he received psychotherapy treatments and joined a hippie commune afterward. At the commune, Lake was directing and starring in adult films that involved bondage and/or sadomasochism. He met his first wife at the commune but the marriage didn’t last long when she discovered Lake’s film industry and after he kept insisting that she star in said films.
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Lake was remarried to Claralyn “Cricket” Balazs in 1981 after Lake was imprisoned in 1980 for car theft, she was the “woman of his dreams” as she willingly complied to his sexual interests. It is suspected that Cricket had some knowledge of her husband’s behavior and that she assisted in the luring of Ng and Lake’s victims. 
She once admitted in a police interview that Lake would often bring in children or various ages and genders and that she wondered what it would feel like to do stuff to them. 
The bunker in the woods where the crimes took place also belonged to Balazs.
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Lake had believed a nuclear holocaust was near and needed sex slaves to repopulate the earth. When he met Ng he passed this plan on to the susceptible, younger male. As chronicled in a series of video diaries, Ng and Lake are caught on tape raping, beating, and killing their victims along with their own personal monologues. 
There was also a typed journal with a list of Lake’s Rules for his behavior and treatment to his victims. They had more of a mentor-mentee relationship; Ng was the Sheep and Lake was the Shepard. Ng had always had such ideas but he was too shy of a man to commit to his urges by himself. 
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The Victims (Confirmed):
Harvey Dubs
Deborah Dubs
Sean Dubs (infant)
Lonnie Bond Sr. (Lake’s Neighbor)
Brenda O’Connor (Bond’s Wife)
Lonnie Bond Jr. (infant)
Clifford Peranteau
Jeffrey Gerald
Michael Carroll
Kathleen Allen (boyfriend was Ng’s cellmate)
Robin Scott Stapley
Both men are suspected of being responsible for the disappearances of up to 25 people. The women were kept in the bunker for at least a few days or up to a week before they were shot and killed after they were tortured and raped repeatedly while their family watched and then got shot right in front of her eyes. The men were used for financial gain, although they and the children were not the main priority of Ng and Lake. Men and children were killed within the same day as their abduction.
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Lake’s Possible Victim’s
Charles Gunnar: Military friend of Lake’s. Lake’s best man in both of his weddings. Went missing during ‘83-’85 and Lake was using Gunnar’s ID at one point in time. His remains were discovered at the ranch in September of 1992.
Donald “Dom” Lake: Leonard Lake’s younger brother. The one he used as a threat during his childhood in order to get sexual favors from his sisters in exchange for protection. Vanished in 1983 and was presumed dead. His remains were also found on the ranch in September 1992.
Paul Cosner: Police found out that the real Robin Stapley was missing for several weeks at the time of Lake’s arrest and that Lake’s car belonged to Paul Cosner, 39, who had also been missing for eight months in November 1984. 2001: a San Francisco judge found Ng and Lake responsible for the murder of Paul Cosner, a missing auto trader who was presumed dead.
Donald Giulietti: The FBI estimates their kidnapping and killing spree started within a month of their reunion. In July 1984, Donald Giuletti, a San Francisco disc jockey, and his roommate, Richard Carrazza, were shot by an Asian man who broke into their apartment and robbed them. 
Giulietti died in the attack but Carrazza survived and would later identify Charles Ng as his attacker. The pistol used in the attack was found at the Wilseyville site.
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Lake and Ng got caught when they went to the store to buy a new vise on June 2, 1985. The store owner was immediately suspicious since Lake used Stapely’s ID; Stapely was 26 but Lake looked far from it. Ng couldn’t control his instincts and tried to steal from the store only to have the owner catch Ng in the act. The police were called but Ng fled from the scene, leaving Lake behind to go into hiding.
Lake stayed behind in an attempt to pay for the goods in order to elude arrest. In his car, police found a .22 revolver with an illegally equipped silencer, which is why they were allowed to arrest him at that moment. Since Ng was nowhere to be found, police investigated the bunker.
Police discovered the bodies of 11 people and 45 pounds of unidentifiable bones, caches of weapons and explosives, personals from the victims such as clothes and forms of ID, and the videotape diaries. 
Ng escaped to Canada but got caught shoplifting at another store. Only this time, he panicked and drew a gun, which led to one of the officers getting shot in the hand. He was charged with robbery, attempted robbery, possession of a firearm, and attempted murder in Canada; Ng did his time there for the crimes committed there before being turned over to American authorities. 
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In questioning, Lake told the police about Ng, where the bunker was located and gave a hint about what their master plan was. He asked the officer for a cup of water and a pen with paper. While the officer went to fetch the water, Lake wrote his suicide note. He used the water to swallow two cyanide pills that he had sewn into his coat collar. Police thought Lake was going to put his confession in writing when he asked them for pen and paper so they happily complied. 
Lake was rushed to the hospital and fell into a coma, survived on life support for four days before he died on June 6, 1985.
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The trial was overly complicated because of Ng’s lie about his nationality and the fact that Ng would often fire lawyers, change the location of the trial, and attempt to defend himself in order to buy himself time and hopefully avoid a trial. Eventually, he faced trial for the first time in 1991.
The final trial took place in 1999 and it lasted for eight months. The jury deliberated for about two weeks until Ng was found guilty for the murder of six men, three women, and two baby boys. He was sentenced to death after he and Lake were caught and was sent to San Quentin. While no sentencing date is set, Ng is appealing his conviction to this day.
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Side Notes:
Ng’s Military Cellmate said in a television interview that Ng professed to hating some ethnic groups and homosexuals so much that he killed a gay man by burning him alive.
“The Collector” by John Fowles is a novel about a lonely young man who works as a clerk in a city hall and collects butterflies in his spare time. 
The man becomes obsessed with a female art student and instead of coming up to her he watches her from a distance because it appears that he is socially underdeveloped. 
He then kidnaps the woman after moving into an isolated lodge and adds her to his collection of preserved beauties. He promises not to hurt her, only to shower her with his spoils. 
He is convinced that she would learn to love him over time, but she becomes ill and dies. 
Lake is said to have been obsessed with this novel. 
Kenneth Ng, Charles Ng’s father, blames himself for his son’s role in the killing spree on the physical abuse he did to his son during his childhood.
He testified in court that during that time, there was almost no line between discipline and child abuse. He meant to bring up his son in a narrow and straight path, which sometimes meant tethering him and whipping him with a stick. 
"I tried to bring him up right. Unfortunately, I used the wrong way. I thought this was normal. But now I know how wrong I am." 
Mr. Ng wanted his son to be sentenced to life in prison instead of to death, “I do hope I still have him in jail, instead of dead," he said.
Relatives of the victims said they were not swayed by the testimony, but expressed sympathy for Kenneth Ng. 
It was reported that Ng held his head down for the testimony and cried silently as his father spoke. 
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~brianna
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northern-angel · 5 years ago
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Moving on from Greek Row, we are going to visit The Shifting Paradymes.
Jasmine Rai
4.0 GPA History Major (2nd Semester Freshman)
No OTH known
ACR Preference: Gay
3 Bolts with Zoe Zimmerman, 2 Bolts with DJ Verse, Sarah Love and Stella Terrano.
Gunnar Roque
History Major (2nd Semester Junior)
No OTH Known
ACR Preference: Straight
 3 Bolts with Keely Shepherd the Cheerleader and 2 Bolts with Jessie Pilferson
Zoe Zimmerman
4.0 GPA History Major (2nd Semester Freshman)
Music & Dance OTH
ACR Preference: Bisexual
3 Bolts with Jasmine Rai, 2 Bolts with DJ Verse
Gunnar woke in the middle of the night with an urgent need to play the guitar. Jasmine heartfarted over her boo at breakfast. Then she and Zoe did some skilling, even if Jasmine spent most of the time staring at Zoe. Gunnar moved on to the drums. And Jasmine thought playing the bass seemed like a fine plan, whilst Zoe had an extremely animated conversation on the phone. Gunnar rolled a want to do something other than play any of the three instruments! Zoe finally got to indulge her hobby, but the Uni Coach was most displeased that she wasn’t using that time to exercise. Jasmine’s juggling was so rhythmic that she got invited to the Music & Dance Hobby Lot. Finally Gunnar splashed around joyously in his stompy boots.
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idrawtoomuch-gw2 · 4 years ago
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When did Edmund first realize he was trans? I know he’s from a kind of rude noble family, how did they react?
I would place him figuring it out more in his early-mid teens? Probably a pretty standard/average answer but it seems like the point that makes the most sense.
As for family reactions- I generally go by the assumption that Tyrians are on average more 'chill' in regards to anything LGBT related than our world, with human nobles being a little more strict than most but still not being public about negative opinions since it'd make them look bad. That said I see his parents not really getting much of a choice but to accept it regardless of how they'd feel. Literally Edmund just took a magic equivalent of a megaphone at some formal party/event hosted by the family and yelled 'I'm Trans' very publicly. If they said or did anything against it they'd look like a--holes, and even if it was in private people would find out since nobles tend to like getting into everyone else's business.
Character Fact; the Gunnar Siblings literally contain LGBT. Lesbian - Teresa, Gay - Kai, Bi - Morgan, Trans - Edmund. This was not deliberate it just kinda happened I swear. (Lucia is the only cis AND straight one although her being exactly straight is still up for debate tbh)
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