#FUCK FOREVER EVIL
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Things I will never forgive DC for in the new 52:
Any Batman storyline, really. (Especially Forever Evil, anything past Rebirth, especially especially the marriage and Bane storylines) (I suppose I can forgive Endgame bcs it gave us Duke)
RIC GRAYSON
Retconning the Arrow Family
ALFRED'S DEATH
THEY TOOK AWAY JASON'S GUNS
Heros in Crisis
The aging up of Jon Kent (and essentially losing the great amazing super sons dynamic)
#jason todd#bruce wayne#batfamily#batman#new 52 comics#dc comics#alfred pennyworth#FUCK FOREVER EVIL#BRUCE WAYNE IS A GOOD DAD WHY DID THEY WRITE HIM LIKE THAT#arrow family#supersons#damian wayne#jon kent
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my mom was defeatist when she found out biden dropped out of the race, but i told her i was having hope. seeing the posts about the donations rolling in, i think my hope is well placed
Hold your ground! HOLD YOUR GROUND!
Sons of Gondor! Of Rohan! My brothers. I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of Men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day!
An hour of wolves and shattered shields when the Age of Men comes crashing down -- but it is not this day! This day we fight!
By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!
#on-and-on-we-go-forever#ask#lotr#look i am just saying#if lotr slaps at one thing#(and it slaps at many)#it is in motivational speeches delivered by the heroes against overwhelming evil and bad odds#also fond -- to put it mildly -- of RIDE! RIDE NOW! RIDE TO RUIN! AND THE WORLD'S ENDING!#so yes#chin up to you and your mom and the rest of us#just posted the fundraising update and it also slaps#let us do this fucking thing and smite orange sauron once and for all#kamala harris 2024#get his ass kamala
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Okay, I need to talk about this passage from City of Bones
Something that comes up a couple of times in regards to the Circle era is that all the modern kids kind of look down on the previous generation for buying into all of this bullshit, much like the readers probably do. Clary is a modern American teenager, of course she hears about Valentine and immediately sees the obvious parallels to white supremacy, of course she can't believe that her family would go along with that and knows that she would do better. And Luke doesn't argue with her, or try to defend his assertation that Valentine wasn't always evil. Even if Valentine was Luke's friend at first, he still should have known better than to let things go so far. Jocelyn should have known better, the Lightwoods should have known better, they all should have known better. But they didn't, and neither does Clary.
Even though she's able to identify Valentine's rhetoric as hateful when she's learning about it as "things said by this mass murderer," she still repeats the same stuff after picking it up from people she trusts. Clary falls into the classic progressive pitfall of lumping opinions into right and wrong; people into good and evil. Luke isn't trying to convince her that Valentine was actually a good person or that it's okay to do a little violent hate crime as a teenager, he's trying to point out that knowing which people to label as "evil" doesn't actually do anything to make you an ally to the people being oppressed. She can hate Valentine, but can she see werewolves and vampires as people equal to herself?
The answer is yes, obviously she can. But it's only because she has people like Luke there to call her out when she does something out of line. Luke fell for that stuff too as a teenager, but he took the time to unpack all those hateful beliefs, and so has a much better understanding of how to live up to his ideals than the kid who's never done anything wrong in her life.
In addition, I really like that the book wasn't afraid to acknowledge how Valentine is definitely analagous to white supremacists. Most stories with some sort of fantasy discrimination act like this is the only bigotry and their characters have never heard of racism, but that automatically flattens the world. Clary thinks she knows enough about racism to apply those lessons from history onto a new situation, but she clearly isn't actually ready to practice what she preaches.
Also, this is by no means a Clary hate post. I love that she's a flawed character and that the narrative acknowledges this and lets her grow from it. A lot of stories would be afraid to look at the protagonist (who's kinda a reader insert) and go "you are not immune to propaganda," but it's an important thing to make the kids reading these books aware of. Clary isn't evil, but she did do some harmful things and has to reckon with that potential for hate within herself before it goes any farther.
It's not perfect and it's not a complete education on anti-discrimination, but it's better than what you might expect from a YA urban fantasy novel published in 2007. Hell, it's better than you expect from a lot of people active online today.
#the circle era haunts me forever by the way#i will never shut up about the 1984 plotline in the evil we love but i need to make it clear that the modern one fucks too#tmi is actually about how you are not immune to propaganda#the shadowhunter chronicles#shadowhunters#tsc#the mortal instruments#clary fray#clary fairchild#luke garroway#lucian graymark#city of bones
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holding garak responsible for his behaviour on empok nor is kinda ridiculous for a number of reasons, one of which is obviously the fantastical nature of specifically what happened there in the first place, but. i gotta say.
if someone was slowly induced into a state of psychosis, dosed with utterly absurd amounts of basically amphetamines against their will, and then placed into a situation that involved them being encouraged to murder at least two people in the name of self defense, if they went ahead and flipped out and tried to kill everyone else present at the time, well—
i think i would forgive a real world human for that too, honestly. i do not think that would be their fault. i would think that situation was fucked up and they (and everyone else) were gonna need therapy forever and ever but that was not their fuckin’ fault.
#star trek#star trek ds9#elim garak#stella talks#.fantasy space drug yes but if i think about the closest equivalent real world scenario for all that bullshit.#.i still don’t think garak did anything wrong morally over there.#.wrong in terms of this is going to haunt everyone who survived forever yeah sure.#.but morally wrong? nah.#.those circumstances were fucked.#trek meta#.just remembered someone arguing garak was evil because of empok nor and like. no. no i’m sorry but that’s not the evil garak.#.even in grounded realistic terms this is not a situation where garak was evil.#.please argue with me about this.#.i like it when people tell me i am wrong and explain in detail why.#.it gives me thoughts to turn around in my empty brain.#.<- not sarcasm genuinely if you disagree with me i wanna know why in detail please i love it.
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Disney, releasing Wish: "so it's all about legacy--the new generation surpassing the old, overcoming the evils perpetuated by them, relinquishing singular power... and there's an old man in a tower, uh... animal sidekick, i guess..., ah... magic...?
Miyazaki, just out of frame, sledgehammer raised:
#the boy and the heron#not tagging wish 'cause i'm being a little acidic#this isn't to be negative in the slightest--I really respect both films--but it's interesting to see how visceral boy+H gets with its story#what evils have to be rejected and what they represent--and how characters and the world suffer from those evils--as well as how the whole#'rejecting' part goes. in terms of animation powerhouses discussing their legacies - disney and miyazaki both - I find it interesting that#one makes a pretty safe and nostalgic movie about imagination and dreams; the other is a long trudge through the land of the dead.#b+h is a hard watch - and a look at the legacy of a man questioning his whole purpose in the world - after his cultural touchstones#have long passed by. Mahito needs to understand his grief to keep living--but if he drowns in it he'll just continue the cannibalistic and#violent world of his granduncle. how the hell do you make art when the trauma of your entire life has colored it forever? How can anyone?#maybe after a while... it's time to detonate that damn tower and keep living.#this is to say#if you have enough money to make whatever you want#Make It Fucking Count
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Ah yes. My favorite gender.
Morph with a gun.
Seriously, who gave this little guy a gun? Thank you. Now they can shoot people who say their jokes aren't funny.
Baby girl needs a hug and a snickers ASAP
#morph#kevin sydney#my favorite gender#morph with a gun#morpherine#yess gimme those drugs#NO but til death do us part#part 2 of TAS? DID NO ONE ELSE SEE HOW EXCITED LOGAN WAS TO SEE THEM AGAIN!??#also W for Scott FINALLY for really saying “fuck this guy morph is my friend” and zappin the shit outta him#sinister ligit crying cause he got hurt oh boohoo im a bad person who did bad things and now people are mad at me#NO CAUSE MORPH IS SO SCARED OF HIM and this is forever in my brain now of Scott AT LEAST having the balls#to stand up for morph despite literally leaving him to die#they could never make me hate you#evil morph#its not your fault#someone hug them IMMEDIATELY#x men animated series#xmen tas#scott summers#x men tas
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"the bismuth crystals" from act 3 of p3wm. aka SEES singing about how the world is good vs. strega singing about how much it sucks
#persona 3#persona 3 the weird masquerade#strega#oh god i have to tag all the characters okay here we go#mitsuru kirijo#yukari takeba#kotone shiomi#akihiko sanada#ken amada#aigis#jin shirato#takaya sakaki#persona#mine#my translations#yes i'm back#i'm a strega stan now btw#i love watching them be evil. they deserve it#i've said this before and i'll say it forever: zaq(aigis) sings with the voice of a fucking angel
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That must be the ink.
#ada wong#realism#resident evil fanart#vivey draws#this took fucking forever#ada wong fanart#i love her in separate ways!!
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"It's hard being an Armand girlie right now.."
Me: Is it? Baby boy definitely did all that shit, sure, and yeah it was terrible to Louis and Claudia and Lestat and Madeleine and technically the whole coven...he looked fabulous af doing it thought. Credit where credit is due he gaslit his way to a mediocre relationship and, probably, [Redacted but understood by the girlies in the *know* about 1973-1985]. Not being alone meant being in the worst possible relationship for all parties. Gremlin chose violence against everyone, himself included. I'm not gonna say oh woe is him when it comes to this (his backstory is a whole other story but we're not really there yet). He's a chaos demon and I just love that for him. And I love that it was his (eventual) fledgling who exposed him. He had it coming. Either way? He's a little evil shit but he sure as shit was fabulous doing it and I love him.
#interview with the vampire#iwtv#the vampire armand#sorry not sorry about what i said i'm just tryna have some fun#i mean he turned daniel and i love daniel and have forever and it's really funny he did#not because he did it oUt oF sPItE but because they're opposites#and you know what they say about opposites#but yeah he's a fucked up little shit and i like him as is#the lestat girlies have more ground to be sympathetic to lestat but they don't feel shame#good on them lestat is an affably evil diva and im here for it#i just like gremlin giant insect evil queens who consistently fuck up getting the love they want#also my kingdom to see show armand just randomly scalp a corpse like he does in his book#because like wtf was that but also yeah ok i get it you little weirdo
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There is a trend that I've noticed amongst fandom spaces around games, and it isn't a trend that is unique to Baldur's Gate. I have seen it happen in my other fandom spaces like Fallout, Cyberpunk, Dragon Age, etc. But people have a habit of having very strong opinions about companions/characters that they do not know.
It is comical to watch the abject lies people create about companions and use them as justification to dislike said companion because they know they don't have a valid reason to do so. This isn't unique to Minthara, this happens to ALL companions (ironically, the funniest and most egregious lies I've ever heard actually aren't even about Minthara). It's just glaringly obvious when it comes to Minthara as she is the least recruited and most killed companion in the game and is thus the least known. So the lies and mischaracterizations pop up more often, and there is an abundance of them. And it gets exhausting having to constantly fight these lies all the time. Especially when so few people actually know her and thus there are few who are able to defend her.
I remember there was a poll a few months ago that overwhelming voted Minthara as the least loyal and most likely companion to cheat on you. To me, that just screams that the people who voted for her in that poll have never had a conversation with her outside the goblin camp. Minthara is the most loyal companion. That is not an opinion of mine. That is a fact. That is canon to the game. She is canonically your most loyal companion. And it's not that she's the least likely to cheat. She never will. Again, not an opinion. That is canon to the game. But this is information people don't know, because they've never spent a single moment getting to know her. This is a lie being spread about her that will be used as justification to dislike her and to justify not recruiting her or justify killing her.
I have also seen people admit that their opinions about her is formed solely on social media posts from YouTube, TikTok, Twitter, Reddit, or Tumblr because they just can't stomach having her in their party. As ironic as this is going to sound, but your opinion about a character should never be based on social media alone. The people who do this are missing out on the context of that post and often fail to use it in comparison with the rest of the character (especially since there is a high risk of a social media post containing misinformation or just straight up lies). People will take this one snippet of a character, and use it as if that it is all that character is. Posts on social media, including mine, are meant to be supplementary to your experience of a companion, not the sole foundation.
When it comes to these social media posts, no two people are going to have the exact same interpretation, which may cause confusion for an outsider looking in. Even amongst us Minthara enjoyers, we do not always agree, and that is to be expected. We are all different people who have lived different lives and thus have different experiences informing our interpretations. Even amongst my mutuals we do not always agree, and that's normal. But at least we have taken the time to get to know her and come to our own conclusions and can understand how someone else came to a different one. My posts, or anyone else's, should not be your sole source of information about Minthara or any other characters. You still do need to form your own opinion and that can only be done by actually spending the time to get to know them.
Recently, one of my old posts in which I talked about the relationship with Minthara and Karlach has exploded again. And I see the tags that people are attaching to it. The game has been out for 10 months now. And it makes me sad that people still have the wrong opinion about Minthara. It makes me sad just how little people actually know about her. It makes me sad that people are only now going to go recruit her for the first time, even though the knock out exploit has been here for months. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that my post has changed the way people see Minthara and encouraged them to want to get to know her. But it breaks my heart that I have to use another companion to convince people to get to know Minthara, because to them, Minthara alone just isn't good enough. They have already made up their mind about her, even though they don't even know her.
People are allowed to have whatever opinions that they want. But don't get online and share those opinions about a character you don't even know to people who do. It's like highschool level petty nonsense where people would rather believe and spread rumors about a person, rather than getting to know the person themselves and forming their own opinion. And, no, I don't care if your opinion is a positive one because even positive opinions can be inaccurate and wrong if you don't know the character. Again, this isn't just about Minthara but all characters and companions. And I'm only scratching at the surface level here. This essay would be significantly longer if I actually took the time to talk about how implicit bias, racism, homophobia, and sexism have all had a negative impact on fandom perception of Minthara and the other companions.
I will never tell anyone to do anything with their game they don't want to do, I will only encourage people to try new things. If you truly do not want to recruit Minthara or interact with her, that's fine. It's your game, your world, your rules, your vision.
But, I will say this. If the only conversation that you have ever had with Minthara is the one in the goblin camp, shut the fuck up about her. This cruel, heartless, evil person that floats around is a twisted version of Minthara that only exists on social media and was created by people who do not know her. This bastardized version is nothing like the version that actually exists in the game. And you would know that if you ever spent a single second of your time getting to know her.
#bg3#baldur's gate 3#fandom critical#minthara#minthara baenre#i will forever be laughing at that one poster who falsely claimed minthara has a kink for poisoning you#because they literally did not know the full context of the poisoned kiss#only after admitting that they have never once recruited her because they couldn't handle her#i don't care if she makes you feel bad#i dont care if you think shes mean#i dont care if you think shes evil#i dont care if she doesn't mesh well with your team#if you have never recruited her or ever had her on your team#then shut the fuck up about her
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Noah Reid as Tommy Cummins in Murder in a Small Town (2024–) S1E08 "Sleep While I Sing"
#bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark#this made me FERAL#oh how i had wanted him to play the villain#and what a great job he did!!!!#this is certainly MUCH to think about#also i really wanted to always choose the close up profile pic as the big pic#in every set of pics#but i resisted the urge#fucking christ he is handsome though#forever the sexiest man alive#him being angry and evil and threatening.... ohhhhhhhhh boy.......#i' sorry but i want him to yell and curse at me#i'd melt into a puddle#jesus fuck this man has a choke hold on me#but enough from me now#let's just look at him#simply gorgeous#noah reid#tommy cummins#murder in a small town#tv#riikka posts
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"We need more clomplex female characters!!!"
Yall mfs couldn't even handle her 💀
#pink diamond#pink diamond steven universe#complex characters#Mfs who hates pink diamond and not the other diamonds are basically stupid as hell#Steven universe#She may have hurted people but doesn't change the fact that she was trying to fix her mistakes#“She left spinal!” It would've been risky. Pink couldn’t have brought spinel. She would’ve died in the war because of her happy go lucky na#“She traumatized many people!!” STFU ur acting as if she wasn't traumatized and abused as well 💀#She's not 100% evil and not 100% good yall#“She left her all her problems to steven!” Well how the actual fuck was she supposed know when she don't have future vision?#Like bro even Garnet didn't knew 💀💀#The way this fandom treats pink diamond...#Forever a pink diamond defender#Gtfo if ur a pink diamond hater this is NOT for you 💀#She was like a child in a toxic home#We saw her development backwards#PD is the perfect example of no matter what you change#in some way#your past will always haunt you. she never wanted all of that for Steven 😕#Anyway if it wasn't for her and stopping the colonization steven universe would've never existed#cotton candy
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Has anyone else noticed the weird appropriation of Yiddish for specifically anti-zionist spaces? It makes me deeply uncomfortable.
#its gross#why are you all so fucking weird about jews#why cant you be normal#these same people are like “jews are a diaspora people so thats why we learn yiddish'#without thinking or asking where the diaspora is from#because you cant have a diaspora without a point of origin.....#and then they still deny jews are indigenous to israel#so they dont care about most mizrahi jews who literally live there and have forever#but then they kind of have this weird fascination with yemeni jewish culture#and like exoticize (?) Mizrahi jews#but not if youre from israel then youre immoral and evil
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ooh, let the light in at your back door yelling 'cause i wanna come in ooh, turn your light on look at us, you and i, back at it again
#sweeney todd#sweeney todd revival#broadwayedit#sweenett#been working on this since i realized it's been THREE MONTHS without them D:#every day i think i miss them MORE which is so fucking stupid#they were always... touching... each other.......#the way she RUNS to him when he finally comes home and the beadle is in the parlor.... god help me.#him showing her the chair is sooooo. marrieds. evil marrieds.#the fact that... the fact that their love is poisoned by lovett's deception but... setting that aside...#(lol)#they're each other's safe place... he fills her heart and home with purpose. and she's his constant. his safe harbor.#ykw she didn't get that ring but she did get forever 😈😈😈 hellbride. :')#**#otp: if you only knew#not a lot just forever.........
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maybe a controversial opinion but while i really love jiang cheng as a character he is deeply self-centered as a person. and seeing people fight tooth and nail claiming he isn't, or is just misunderstood, or that he has genuine valid reasons to be selfish when plenty of other characters make the difficult choice to forego status and opportunities for what they believe is genuinely right to do (read: wei wuxian, wen ning, wen qing, lan wangji, jiang yanli, mianmian, etc.)
it's just odd to me. especially if they're talking about the novels.
mxtx didn't give jiang cheng the name "sandu shengshou" as a quirky coincidence. there's a REASON she named him & his sword after the 3 poisons of Buddhism (specifically ignorance, greed, and hatred). it's crucial to the story that jiang cheng is NOT selfless and that wei wuxian IS.
it's important to accept that wei wuxian is, by their society's standards, not morally gray; he represents several Buddhist ideals in direct contrast of jiang cheng and multiple people attest to wei wuxian's strong moral character, which is a lot of why jiang cheng even feels bitter about him to begin with.
it's crucial, because by the end of the novel jiang cheng realizes the extent of this and begins to let go!
the twin prides thing wasn't jiang cheng wanting them to 100% mirror the twin jades. he does care about wei wuxian, but he wanted wei wuxian to stay his right hand man, in part the way wei changze was for jiang fengmian.
and if there's one thing you can notice about wei changze in the novels, it's that literally nobody talks about him. he is only ever mentioned when his cool mysterious mountain sect wife cangse-sanren is mentioned, or (even more rarely) when they discuss him as a servant to jiang fengmian. regardless of jiang fengmian's own feelings, wei changze was considered lesser to him and didn't seem to outdo him, since nobody's out there years later still waxing poetry about wei changze's skills.
it may not be the only thing jiang cheng wants out of a twin pride dynamic, but it is a big part of it. regardless of his parents' intentions in taking wei wuxian in and treating him certain ways, this twin pride right-hand man thing is what jiang cheng has felt owed since childhood. he gave up his dogs for wei wuxian, people gossip about his sect heir position with wei wuxian there... jiang cheng wants the reciprocation of what he views as personal sacrifices.
he is ignorant to the depth of what wei wuxian must've suffered for over 6 years as a malnourished orphan child on the streets. he hates how wei wuxian's intelligence, witty charm, and cultivation abilities are naturally stronger than his own. he does care about wei wuxian a lot and want them to be together as sort of-brothers, sort of-friends, sort of-young master and sect servant...
...but if it's between that unclear (yet still caring) relationship and being able to save himself just a little bit more, jiang cheng nearly always manages to clam up in the face of danger and choose the latter, which ultimately benefits himself most. maybe it's a stretch to call that sort of thing greed, but it certainly isn't selfless.
there are of course plenty of justifications for this. it's his duty as sect heir. his home and sect was severely damaged by the wen attack and subsequent war; he had to protect himself, etc.
but doesn't that prove the point?
wei wuxian may be charming, but in terms of pure social standing, he is lower and far more susceptible to being punished or placed in harm's way by people who have more power and money. to protect wei wuxian, yunmeng jiang's long-term head disciple and semi-family member, even in the face of backlash and public scrutiny would've been the selfless thing to do. this is what wei wuxian does for the wen remnants in the burial mounds.
jiang cheng does not choose this. it's not even an unreasonable choice for him to make! nobody else in the great clans is doing such a thing, stepping out of line to take on a burden that could weaken them in the long-run. wei wuxian himself doesn't hate jiang cheng for it; he lets go of these things and focuses on what good he can do in the present.
jiang cheng thinks further into the future - what would happen to him if he continued vouching for wei wuxian and taking his side? what about jiang cheng's face, his sect's face? would wei wuxian even care to reciprocate somehow? everyone expects him to cut off wei wuxian for being dangerous, for threatening his position, for...
do you see what i mean? to call jiang cheng selfless for falling in line with exactly what people expected him to do after the war is not only wrong, it's foolish.
"but they faked their falling-out!" okay. why fake it to begin with, except to protect jiang cheng and the jiang sect's own face? is that selfless? who does it ultimately serve to protect? wei wuxian canonically internalizes the idea that he stains all that he touches, including lan wangji, and agrees to the fake fight because he doesn't want to cause the jiang sect harm. regardless, it eventually slides into a true falling-out, and in the end jiang cheng is more or less unscathed reputation-wise while wei wuxian falls.
that isn't selfless. it's many things! it's respecting his clan and his ancestors, it's making a good plan for the future of his sect and cultivation... but it isn't a truly selfless in the interest of what's right rather than in the interest of duty and what's good for him and his family lineage.
that brings me to my next point: even though wei wuxian hid the truth of the golden core transfer, jiang cheng spent nearly 20 years believing that the golden core "renewal" he was given was a birthright gift of wei wuxian's from baoshan-sanren, an immortal sect teacher of wei wuxian's mother's and a martial elder to wei wuxian.
of course we all know that's a big fat lie, but jiang cheng believed that wei wuxian gave up a critical emergency use gift to him for decades! he was lied to, yes, but jiang cheng immediately agreed without even needing to be convinced. the light in his dead eyes came back with hope the moment wei wuxian even said baoshan-sanren's name. he accepted wei wuxian's offer to give that up to him and take it via identity theft without missing a beat.
with how mysterious and revered baoshan-sanren is, that's obviously not a light sacrifice to just give up to anyone, no matter how close they might be to you. pretending to be wei wuxian to take the gift could even be considered dangerous. what if she found out and got offended? could wei wuxian be hurt by that?
jiang cheng doesn't even hesitate. wei wuxian is the one who mentions that if jiang cheng doesn't pretend to be him, the immortal master could get angry and they'd both be goners. and funnily enough, the day they do go to "the mountain", jiang cheng is the one worried and suspiciously wondering if wei wuxian was lying to him or had misremembered.
of course they've both been traumatized like hell prior to this point. but still: it speaks to how broken he was at the moment as well as to his character overall.
i digress: jiang cheng "gets his golden core back" via what he believed was a gift that should've been wei wuxian's to use in serious emergencies. rather than use it for himself, wei wuxian risked his own safety and gave it to jiang cheng... and jiang cheng still ends up embittered and angry, believing that wei wuxian is arrogant and selfish.
if he truly views them as 100% brothers and equals with no caveats, why would he think that way? it's not like he needs to grovel before wei wuxian for doing that, or to reciprocate... but this is what i mean when i say jiang cheng feels he is owed things by wei wuxian. wei wuxian's actions hold a very different weight in jiang cheng's mind, and jiang cheng himself doesn't ever act the same way, except once.
is it wrong for him to feel like he is owed something? it depends. many asian cultures, including my own, feel that a person owes their family in ways that may not make sense to westerners. for example, it's considered normal for a child to owe their parents for giving birth to them, or to other caretakers for feeding, clothing, sheltering, educating them, etc.
however, something like verbally saying "thank you" or "i'm sorry" to family is considered crazy- why would you owe that? you're supposed to inconvenience your family; saying thank you or sorry is the sort of thing you say to a stranger or acquaintance. i get half-seriously lectured by my elders on this a lot even now, even though they know such phrases are just considered good manners in the US.
this muddies up the idea of wei wuxian being jiang cheng's family vs his family's charge or servant even more. jiang cheng wants wei wuxian to be close... but ultimately doesn't really choose to use what power he DOES have to protect wei wuxian. he considers himself still owed something that in his mind wei wuxian flagrantly never repays.
this isn't even getting into how despite spending a majority of his time with the yiling patriarch he never once noticed that wei wuxian stopped using any spiritual power-based cultivation. even lan wangji, who met them far more rarely, realized that something was wrong and that wei wuxian had taken some sort of spiritual damage, hence the "come with me to gusu".
of course manpain is fun and i'm not immune to the juicy idea of them reconciling and talking things out... but jiang cheng is deeply mired in his own desire to be "above" wei wuxian in multiple ways, and doesn't realize the extent of wei wuxian's actions, the intentions behind them, and the consequences wei wuxian knowingly faced for them.
to not recognize this about jiang cheng, especially in the novels, is really revisionist if you ask me. i reiterate that i really do like him a lot. he's flawed, angry, traumatized and has poor coping mechanisms, an overall fascinating character... but he is not selfless nor ideal, and i seriously draw the line at people saying he is.
wen ning shoves this all into his face at lotus pier to disastrous results. it is the reason why jiang cheng's a total mess at guanyin temple, and the reason jiang cheng ultimately doesn't tell wei wuxian about the fact that he ran towards the wens on purpose.
for that one last act of his to have really been selfless, he needs to not seek anything in return. he did it purely because it was right to do to protect someone else. if that means wei wuxian never finds out about it, so be it.
that moment that ended up causing jiang cheng irreversible harm is not a debt that wei wuxian owes him. it hurts, but no matter how bitter it is, that realization is so important to him changing in the future.
#keri chats#mo dao zu shi#jiang cheng#long post#this is NOT anti/crit for him btw i like him a lot i just feel like nobody interprets him the way i perceive him#which even then my interpretation is p nebulous... worth saying i also heavily disagree w ppl who think of him as an evil shithead#he's upper class & steeped in jianghu politics/self preservation. flawed as hell human being but they're all war criminals lbr it's#Magical Genocide and War Crimes: The Novel#anyway this post is messy as fuck but if u read all of it: thank u. if u agree with me: ilu. i wish more ppl understood revenge ethics#as they stand in asian cultures and history vs in western (almost always culturally christian) cultures#it's unclear how far in the future the extras are but at one pt he's ''the same as ever'' which at best indicates slow emotional growth#and like. ykw? i don't think he'll be repressed bitter angry thinking abt his losses n pain forever. i think he can grow i believe in him#i have so many thoughts on this i could've made this post go on forever augh#mdzs#danmei
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the four casket spaces left in logan's mausoleum. a stone fortress that he bought but didn't build himself. literally made by a man who sold pet supplies. carved into the side while he is laid to rest in the middle, forcing them to orbit him forever. he knew his children would be the only ones to never leave him - loyal dogs until the end. and because it's what logan says will happen, the world shifts to make it come true. the cage is open so why won't you leave??
#vile evil putrid presumptuous (and correct)#miserable decrepit man#succession hbo#succession#logan roy#roman roy#shiv roy#kendall roy#connor roy#dog motif goes so fucking crazy#locked them in the pound forever#let them eat cake#4x09 church and state
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