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FNAF Bible theory. In light of recent Dave theory. It's just from my surface knowledge of the bible (but I am from a christian home, I know a lot) and few wikipedia findings.
Scott is very well known for being a religious person. That's nothing new. And this theory will conclude with statement that ,,FNAF is just a retelling of the bible,, at least part of it. There will not be Jesus in this one. The closest one will be his cousin John.
Pls. Mind that english is not my first lauguage. Im good at using it, but I keep missing word. And i keep using languagetool. And few time I use term ,,standin for,, I'm not sure im using correct term. But hope you understand. So let's start with what we got now:
David - King of Israel, Battle with Goliath
Michael - Guardian of Israel, Battle with Satan
Elizabeth - Known for being a mother and having a baby (stick with me)
And few important names: Gabriel and Henry
When the name David came out lately, when Hyper Droid was talking about CC real name. It struck me. David in the bible is best known for battling the Goliath, and Slaying him, becoming King after that. And in the World of FNAF, CC also battled the Goliath, but this time Lost. Goliath being stand in for Fredbear, you know Giant Robot. We can argue that even if CC lost the rest still happened, Goliath was slain - Fredbear was never used again, and he kinda became the King - CC is probably the most important spirit in FNAF, and Golden Fredy is the Leader of Animatronics, Golden like a Kings Crown - And stay golden even after all the years, when Golden Bonnie faded, but that's later. Golden Freddy leads the Spirits even if it's not David (CC) it's Cassidy, but Cassidy is probably not a biblical name, but there might be something to it if we dig deeper.
Michael - The Archangel. The One that cast Satan out of Heaven. Yes Satan being stand in for William. ("...he does battle with Satan and casts him out of heaven so that he no longer has access to God as accuser" - Wikipedia quote). And mentioning. When David is the King of Israel. Micheal is the Guardian (prince) of Israel (If we take methafor for Israel in FNAF as the place where every spirit lingers, sooo Freadys. Yeah Freddy's is Israel, The Bible one, not the moder country, it's sounds weird now, but let's deal with it.) Then, idk whats better way to describe Mike. After his brother's death, he goes and protects what his brother has become part of, to redeem himself, to give his brother and every soul Afton killed an afterlife. But this Flipped retelling of Bible. As David failed to Defeat Goliath. Michael failed to Protect Souls. But after tries and punishment, he banishes the evil from immortality. Except there are no happy endings in FNAF.
Elizabeth is more difficult than two brothers, but. I might have something. As the fact that FNAF is Flipped retelling of bible more struck me, where nothing goes as it should, but parallels are visible. It got me there. Naming FNAF characters after biblical figures must have some reason. At least minimal. Let's start with this, and it might sound more weird than the rest, so at least trigger warning here. The Big Elizabeth in story in bible start with her husband going to a Temple and being visited by Angel Gabriel. And is promised Elizabeth will bear a son - John the Baptist. Kinda like Mike going to Circus Baby Pizza. Yes I compared Circus Baby Pizza to the Temple of God. But as we know, everything must go wrong. It might be parallels that Elizabeth, instead of bearing the child, got crushed in the belly of a child (baby) looking robot. (And you know, I think Elizabeth in bible is only known for being a mother of more important figure, and naming fnaf character after bible character might be difficult, and SL is kinda a spin-off, I don't know what Stott was thinking, I just see parallels) But as we now know, even if figures failed to fulfill their job, everything else still needs to happen. Destiny needs to fulfill itself. And have you ever noticed that Scooper rips out your guts, from the belly. And as spoken before, something needs to be born. And as Elizabeth would bere the child, now she crawls into someone's belly, as Baby put her self together. In flipped reflection of destiny. Michael goes to a temple, and is promised a Baby, it happened but in crocked refection, Elizabeth is born from her own Brother. But it's not Elizabeth that is the most important that day, because at the same moment, Michael is born again as the Baptist. To cleanse evil in the Baptism of Fire. And as weird as it gets, Mike being also the stand in for John the Baptist resonates well with me.
And that not the end, but I wanted to leave that on the end, because now we will talk about remnant, and remnants are still controversial in FNAF fandom. And I didn't want to taint my Elizabeth part with it. But You can add this to Elizabeth part, and it will only add more to the theory. Trust me. In the Bible when Elizabeth's husband visited the temple, angel said, and I quote "...and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit even before he is born." Mention of being Filled with the Holy Spirit is something that just struck me the most. And I feared that it made sense. As we go further in FNAF games, (technically first ever mention of Remnant is in FNAF 6, but it's calling back to the Scooper) First ever usage of Remnant comes from FNAF SL. When Mike is being Filled with Remnant by the Scooper. As Biblical Child of Elizabeth was Filled with the Holy Spirit. Holy Spirit in bible is reserved for very special things. And if we going with naming FNAF characters after biblical names. Usage of Holy Spirit in the most important story connected to name Elizabeth and the Child she bore. As Scooper standin for filling someone with Remnant - Michael goes to a Temple of The False God that created the Baby and is Filled with The Remnants of Spirits. God!
Did I mention that It's not the end yet. It's not that big, but I want to point out what I see as interesting findings. And maybe we can do something more with this. I never readed bible, I just had religion in school, and I was kinda interested in that when I was younger. But I have really good memory, and this all just started coming to me.
When researching Michael, the name Gabriel keep coming out, It was interesting (like ohhh Scott, you know what you were doing) later when the name Gabriel came up in The Story of Elizabeth. There must be something more. First it was, did Scott name missing children after Archangels - No. But using just one name is enough. And as we all agree, Gabriel, being a child possessing Freddy. Scott used the name Gabriel on the first gravestone. Freddy the face of basic animatronics. Scott could name every kid after (as I found) - 7 archangels, but that would be too obvious, but he named only one, the first, the one we all agree is Freddy. Scott could give him a normal name, but he needed to name at least one after biblical name. And it's Gabriel. I have a weird feeling that, as Scott is a religious person, he just jumped on Wikipedia just like me, and found that Michael and Gabriel are very connected with each other. The fact that the name Gabriel comes out in 2 most important names in FNAF that also are standin for biblical characters. To this moment we got 2/3 names, but Mike and Elizabeth are kinda normal names, so we didn't care, but Now there are 3, we got David. All of William's children are named after biblical characters. With show how egotistical he is. But we got more; as we got Gabriel, it's now 4/3.
My smalled finding is that old version the name Henry is Harold. And it get me to Herod, the Guy that Order to Kill Children when Jesus was about to Born. But It sound more like William, You Know the Guy that KILL CHILDREN.
And Afton. The Guy Himself. Standin for Satan, Devil, Mephisto. The one cast out and banished from heaven. As Golden Freddy faded but stayed golden. Golden Bonny rotten, darken, faded to pitch green. Should be punished in hell, as destiny called for that. But not everything happened as it should. William is still punished, but what Cassidy the Vengeful Spirit done. Will it let go. Old Man Consequences is God Himself. The End (The last is just my own little head canon)
I went. Kinda insane at the end of this. But pls dont toss it out as a wird therory. Ther is a lot to this that make sense. And fell free to add more to this, if you can find more, or know more. My knowlege isnt that full. Retelings of the bible are very common. And no one ever get that angry when you use bibilical stories as the inspiraton. A lot of stories if you dig not even that deep, can be traced down to bibilacal stories. As its collection of very basic moral stories - Of good fighting evil. And thanks to Hyper Droid, his David theory opened the gate for.
#five nights at freddy's#Fnaf#fnaf theory#five night at freddy's theory#mike afton#elizabeth afton#david afton#Dave theory#FNAF Bible theory#golden freddy#fredbear#old man consequences#william afton#purple guy#fnaf sl#circus baby#Fnaf mike#Fnaf afton#fnaf henry emily#henry emily#fnaf survival logbook#Fnaf dave theory#Hyper Droid#fnaf crying child#crying child
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Someone needs to write the entirety of the FNAF lore in a book and the book needs to be called The Bite-ble
#fnaf#fnaf theory#bite of 83#fnaf sb#five nights at freddy's#five nights at freddys#fnaf security breach#fivenightsatfreddyssecuritybreach#fnaf books#the bible
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Regarding The Talbert Files (FNaF).
Honestly FNaF as a Community need to chill and stop looking at the books as if they were the Bible, that's how stuff like this can happen.
Screenshots are real btw:
https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/1cig9ba/comment/l29vt84/
https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/1cig9ba/comment/l2a9125/
https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/1ciq5f6/the_talbert_files/
Don't get me wrong I love this fandom, but it feels like people are using the books just to justify their headcanons rather than to write actual theories.
We shouldn't forget the books are first and foremost extra merchandise to sell to kids and fans.
Unless a story talks about important characters (GGY=Gregory) and/or states important dates about key moments (ex. MCI) I don't see the point of needing to consider them canon.
This whole Talbert File situation felt very fishy to me since day 1 and my gut feeling was right this time around too. A FNaF timeline is more than possible to write without the need of any book/fanfiction (outside for some dates), I feel this is a good time to realize that.
The books are fun, buy them because you want to read a funny story of angsty teens diying by the hands of some crazy robots rather than to try to fit them in the games' universe, most of them are so absurd it's really hard to do so (but I won't deny some of them can make sense).
Adding this here as I feel like a lot of people barely know what the "leaked mail" actually looks like:
Love how Scott acknowledged this but not the PinkyPills situation. I'm very convinced Scott is unable to fire her for now, hoping this will change in the future. #FirePinkyPills
#fnaf#fnaf book#fnaf books#book fnaf#books fnaf#fnaf leak#fnaf leaks#fnaf hoax#fnaf hoaxes#book#books#hoax#hoaxes#fnaf fandom#fnaf community#fnaf fan#fnaf fans#fnaf fanfic#fnaf fanfiction#the talbert files#fnaf the talbert files#the talbert files fnaf#fnaf rumor#fnaf rumors#fnaf talbert files#talbert files fnaf#talbert files#ttf#ttf fnaf#fnaf ttf
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Here’s a relatively comprehensive list of my interests separated into categories based on how well I think I know them:
God itself does not know this like I do:
BATIM
Vita Carnis
TMA
The Darkside Detective
My knowledge is extensive, yet incomplete:
Gemini Home Entertainment
Paper Mario (JUST THE FIRST ONE)
Led Zeppelin (I had a phase in middle school)
BATDS
Kirby (would be higher but I haven’t fully caught up on lore since Star Allies)
The scythe book series
TMAGP
I am no expert, but I am no fool either:
FNAF (I used to consider myself an expert in FNAF lore. I have since been humbled)
Whale sharks (just the animal)
BATDR
The Matrix
Star Trek
Monument Mythos
Liminal Land
Harmony and Horror
Angelology
Human anatomy (bones, organs, muscles, ect)
Pokémon
Lethal company
The Bible (I am not religious)
My knowledge is rather limited in the grand scheme of things:
Bugs
The Walten Files
Colour theory
Mincraft (I know a lot, but only up to the water update where they added dolphins and stuff)
BATIM but specifically the books
Animated Barbie movies
Demonology
Space
My knowledge is but a drop in the ocean of information:
Elden Ring (and Bloodborne and all the souls games really. I would like to know more about them though)
Dinosaurs
The meanings flowers have
Psychology
Ghosts
Junji ito books (I am not in the financial position to purchase any)
I don’t know shit (but I want to):
Greylock
The last of us
Bauldurs gate
#batim#analog horror#the darkside detective#vita carnis#tma#tmagp#batdr#gemini home entertainment#paper mario#led zeppelin#batds#kirby#scythe#fnaf#whale sharks#the matrix#star trek#monument mythos#liminal land#harmony and horror#angelology#human anatomy#pokémon#lethal company#bugs#twf fanart#the walten files#colour theory#minecraft#ghosts
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what IS your thesis about? from the list of items im kinda imagining it's something about different communication styles relating to conveying information? (something something gaylor theory and TJLC as conspiracy vs a more authoritative but absurd documentary style with pannenkoek vs fanfiction making fans confuse canon with fanon vs reddit memes as some kind of "you're normal for thinking this"?) like that is an absurdly wide range of Things. what is he cooking ‼️
hehehe omg i did not expect to get multiple asks about this! paging @scatteredcloud and @the-rad-paramecium , who also asked about it.
my thesis is about the 2022 "nier church incident" wherein a user on the nier automata subreddit started posting extremely-credible videos claiming he'd found a new secret area in the game that no one had discovered before, and the fanbase went absolutely insane. i argue that the incident provides an interesting window into a possible religious studies framework for looking at video game secret seeking as a quasi-religious act of communal orientation and meaning-making
it's very fun to read your speculations about how all the stuff i mentioned could fit into it! unfortunately, most of that stuff is just mentioned in 1-2 sentences; the meat of the fun stuff is mostly related to nier automata, shadow of the colossus, or The Bible.
but, as requested, here is how all the silly things fit:
i use pannenkoek's video as an example of fans pushing the boundaries of games to create new mysteries that weren't intended by the developers. this is specifically in my section about how/why video game mysteries affect people emotionally!
gaylor theory & the johnlock conspiracy are both examples of (non-game) fanbases doing theorycrafting. fnaf/matpat is an example of video game fandom theorycrafting. all of these get like, a sentence each in the project
"hollow knight fanfiction" is because i use the hk fic "stag beetles and broken legs" as an example of fans writing fanfic based on fanfic (in the section where i talk about canon-building)
"kirby lore controversies" is also from the part where i talk about canon-building. specifically, i have a whole paragraph about how hard it often is to tell what video game "canon" is, and use kirby as an example of that
sorry there's actually only one reddit meme! the other one is a twitter meme. anyway, the reddit meme is this:
finally, random other fact: probably the funniest social media post ive had to cite is this one
like, it's extremely funny to have a bibliography that sometimes looks like this:
(please ignore the weird capitalization idk why zotero does that)
#i don't think i'll be able to like post this anywhere when it's done but i can probably send people copies#so if you wanna read it dm me and we can sort something out!#my post#academia#fandom#i'm making this unrebloggable just on the offchance that i get a lot of interested readers#i don't wanna be like 'well you can read it if you ask privately and also don't spread it around'#i'm pretty sure that's the policy? i shall ask about this...#asks
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Learning about the bible through fnaf theories since 2024
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about me :P
-i'm Christian btw but i prob won't make this blog solely about God (fav bible verse is Jeremiah 29:11)-
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fav anime: one piece (eps 440)
anime crush list (so far):
(OP) Law, Ace, Sabo, Shanks (gosh i need help), Penguin, Koby, Zoro, Sanji, Cora-san, Luffy (MHA) Sero, Shigaraki, Dabi, Hizashi, Shinso and Aizawa (again i need help) (KNY) Inosuke, Giyuu and Obanai
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the thing abt matpat is that i would be fine with him doing his shitty dumb theories if people (especially fnaf people.) didnt take his word as if they were christians about the bible
#i would say its not really his fault this happened but he Did make himself basically the face of the fnaf theory commumity.#and also he lies on purpose. it is kind of his fault. idk
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Patiently waiting for someone to hack Scott's computer and release the entire fnaf lore Bible I hope he has one of those
At this point I just want to know his train of tought when comming up with this. how did he jump from hunted robots in a pizzeria to "in that first game you are playing as a reanimated corpse of the main antagonist's son that is possessed by that same son, and he is searching for his father (the main antagonist that murders children's because for unexplained reasons he is obsessed with immortality) to put an end to his serial killing that at this point has ended the lives of all his (the serial murderer) children. This same son is burning pizzerias left and right because in theory heat kills the soul metal (the one that gives life to the robots) but in practice it will never work because that would mean killing the serial murderer in a bunny suit (bacouse yes at this point in that game the antagonist is trapped in a secret room in that pizzeria as a reanimated corpse inside a bunny suit).
wish I could come up with those mental gymnastics.
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as someone who has liked fnaf their whole life can we finally admit that fnaf is a very big part of why all of these indie "horror" games now are soulless crash grabs marketed towards kids who watch game theory like its the holy fucking bible
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Hazbin x Helluva Boss Theory: Charlie Morningstar & Octavia Are Earth Angels (And Some Other Topics To Talk About)
even if Charlie and Octavia are still demons or in other words Hellborns.
they would still technically be Angels on both their father’s sides of the family.
I did watch a video yesterday that talks about Earth Angels, and the signs that that you are one.
yeah, it only got half of that stuff right....like yeah I do spend most of my time to myself in my room, because I do need to.
I know I’m a Defective type Earth Angel, who is Semi-Misanthrope (because I’m still Human, both in my body and soul.)
who knows that not all humans who cross certain dangerous lines, should be forgiven, and some can’t be redeemed for what they had done.
like I believe that Charlie will be able to redeem a few Sinners that come to her Hotel, but I also believe she wont be able to redeem them all.
because some of them deserve to be taken out by the Exterminators.
anyway I know it is a crazy theory, but I can’t help but view Charlie and Octavia as technically being Earth Angels.
Octavia might spend a lot of time to herself, and is sensitive to what is happening with her own parents.
and yeah to her, she views that her Dad was the only source of the problem,
but it might also be her Mother’s fault as well.
even if I can’t really hate Stella much after realizing she has a right to be mad at Stolas, but at the same time, the marriage between them was possibly not out of romantic love but a arranged marriage.
which Stolas might of been implying when trying to talk to Octavia about his and Stella’s relationship.
Octavia might of only seen her parents as being mutually in love while growing up, but really it was possibly only Stella who fell in love with Stolas as time went by, but couldn’t accept that Stolas didn’t love her back, at least not in that way.
Stolas could of grown to love Stella, but he wasn’t in love with her.
it’s possibly in theory, that Charlie’s parents are having trouble in their marriage.
we know that Lucifer and Samael wouldn’t be one in the same,
so what if in theory, while Stolas was having affair with Blitz.
Lilith Magne-Morningstar (still going to fan head canon view that Lilith’s maiden name is Magne.) was having affair with her ex, Samael.
that might not really be canon, but fans could see it happening in the fanon.
but if it turns out to be canon, that would be interesting.
anyway we know that Charlie tries to see the good and best in everything, even though she was born in hell.
it’s possible that in theory, Lilith might not really be her biological mother, well that is a theory and I’m okay with being wrong about that theory.
but let’s review, even though some elements in both shows will be slightly different to the whole other religions and their bibles (which bible is another word for book, and I am a bibliophile but it has to do with different books I have, like the FNAF book I’m currently reading that has to do with time traveling ball bit....plus being a Bibliophile can also mean written work online and not just the physical books that can also be comic books.)
there could be a chance that Lilith lost the ability to have children,
so when she and Lucifer wanted a child, she had allowed him to go to Earth (with Stolas’s help possibly) to conceive a child with a mortal woman.
who would end up being Charlie’s biological mother, who was brought to hell to give birth to Charlie, but after it happens, her biological mother is sent back to earth.
so yeah, Charlie was telling the truth that she was born in hell, but what she possibly doesn’t know is that her own Mother Lilith, lost the ability to give birth along time ago and couldn’t have children.
and I guess even if it wasn’t true, this could also be used in a Fan AU,
where it would turn out that the woman that was picked, turned out to be a reincarnation of one of Lilith’s children that were killed in the past.
of course not everyone has to believe about what I had said before,
that it’s possible that the Earthly Mother/Goddess did try to help Lilith heal by creating a Earth Angel from a part of a fragment of Lilith’s Soul.
which would mean she had 101 children.
and when Charlie was not born yet, a fragment of her Dad’s Soul and her Human Mother’s Soul, created her.
but if it is true that Charlie has a Human Mother in the canon, she wouldn’t be Lilith’s Earth Angel Daughter Reborn in one of her many reincarnations.
I know that while my pendulum can pull pranks on me at times,
I can try to view that the whole Lilith being my Soul-Grandmother, is just one of the pranks.
I have yet to see evidence that the Aliens from Mass Effect Series, is real in real life....I don’t think my pendulum will stop that prank any time soon.
it kept giving a “Yes” whenever I asked about the Aliens from Mass Effect Video Game, being Real In Real Life.
a Soul-Grandparent, is like the Parent of the Soul-Parent you fragmented from.
so it’s like your a fragmented from a Soul that had fragmented from someone else.
not everyone has to agree about that, and someone can believe it if they truly want to.
though there can be dark sides of a soul fragmenting, like what I had found out about, if it is true that is.
I think I might of made a mistake that it was Lilith who lost the ability to have children, I been trying to double check...
but I guess the idea could be used in fictional work.
also it could be possible for Lilith’s Earth Angel daughter to have a fragment of her soul merge with another fragment, possibly another Angel’s Soul Fragment.
but not everyone is going to agree to this possibility, and they don’t have to.
I mean so long as they don’t do the same thing like that one Toxic-Religious person did to me when I was being open about my new found belief and I think about my gender identity too, which while I think for a while I thought it was around Agender but I believe that it is more like a Feminine Aligned Nonbinary.
even if someone is Nonbinary, not all of them will just go by “Them/They” although the pronoun can be used along with she/her or he/him.
I know that not everyone who is Religious ends up in that dark side, but I tried to get that person to understand that their misuse of the words that were either “may god have mercy on you” or “may the lord have mercy on you” (I know it was one of the two.) was hurting my feelings.
even when I pointed that out, they kept doing it, and I had to block them over where it started.
and yeah I believe that science plays a part in our creation, and while half of our heritage comes from Clay-Born Humans, the other half comes from Primates who were generically engineered by Aliens from another planet.
like the Anunnaki, though it’s okay that only a few believe that they played a part.
even if both sides of religious believers and science is the only answer to our being here, are at odds with each other.
but I believe that both sides could be correct.
anyway back to the whole Helluva Boss x Hazbin Hotel Theory.
it’s possible that maybe both Octavia and Charlie could be Earth Angels,
but this might prove to be noncanon but the idea could be used in a Fanon AU of the two shows.
but Charlie’s loving heart and seeing that every demon has a rainbow, is what makes me now believe that she is like a Earth Angel.
Earth Angels aren’t gonna be 100% perfect, and some will possibly have some traces of succubus heritage, and will be in danger of energies that will end up going around the air and end up being absorb into their bodies.
which can place them in danger of having a seizure, I did try to talk to my Mom about how the Doctors misdiagnosed me when I was really little, like when I was a baby when it first happen and how I really didn’t need that medicine in the first place.....of course she ain’t gonna listen about it.
if you been taken that kind of medicine since you are like either 2 or 3 years old and keep taking it, and when they try to get you off of it years later, of course your body is gonna go through withdrawal.
it stops being a medicine and is more like a drug addiction for your body that can’t go without it for too long.
even if some people who have seizures really do need that kind of medicine, but still....doctors could end up misdiagnosing those who have RH Negative blood who might make the machine that is doing that scan thing, and make it seem that it is the other type of seizure that needs medicine.
I’m still using bracelets to make sure that I don’t move anything with my mind, well so far it is just when I hold something with my hands or fingers like when I use my pendulum.
and I am always going to keep my dream-catcher up, so I don’t accidentally dream-walk and end up in a dream of someone else who was....well one of my uncle’s, which my so called being paranoid about him being the cause turn out to be true, because of the mature naughty stuff that was found in his room.
which I didn’t find and I didn’t look at, my Mom found it and she told me about it, and it gave me enough proof that his “pheromone energy” had put my dream self in a trance.
and it was possibly thanks to my bracelet that I became self aware while outside of the room that he was in that took place in the dream space.
and once I did become self aware and understood what was going on, the dream started to change and I was having my normal random dreams.
but because of that close call, I didn’t want to go to sleep at the same time they were going to sleep.
I even made sure to keep myself awake and I know I did slap myself a little on the fact to keep myself from going to sleep.
I then decided to get a dream-catcher and use it to keep me safe from that happening again.
although I did have a dream that scared me awake a few days ago, but I found out that it was because the dream-catcher was turned the wrong way.
I fixed it, so maybe it wont happen again.
and I know before I realized I was in danger from Human’s pheromone energy...
I possibly had a incubus encounter, which it’s okay that not everyone believes that, but even if it was for a slight moment, it was enough to scare me awake.
I think that might of been when I decided to get those gem shaped Angels to sleep under my pillow, and I think it might of been around the same time I decided to start wearing gem type bracelets while I go to sleep.
I also gave my Mom a bracelet, and decided to let it be her Mother’s Day Gift as well.
even if there is that whole Incubus and Succubus praying on some humans,
no one would of figured that the same could be said for when some people with a mix heritage of Succubus in them, could be victims of both Humans and Succubus/Incubus.
even if at times those with this heritage, can be a immune that kind of energies at times, they can end up still become victims if they let their immunity guard down.
they will be not just in danger from the pure blood succubus and incubus,
but also in danger from other humans as well.
those types of energies, could also possibly keep them from fully discovering their true sexuality and might only be able to figure out a bit of it but not fully.
it’s thanks to my doing the extra protection with the bracelets I wear, might be the reason why I discovered that I’m a Aceflux.
though I think the Ace part is more dominant right now and hasn’t really flux very much.
I know that not everyone would start out as Aromantic, but some will at some point in their life.
one of the reasons I can’t tell my family that I’m Aroaceflux
because they seem to believe that those who are gay, can be Asexual.
but there can be different people who can be Ace, and not all of them will be bi or lesbian or vincian.
some will be Heteromantic. and like I had said a few times before, after getting my Mom’s thoughts about Asexuality, I had to pretend that the talk wasn’t about me and as soon as I was able to hide the truth after getting her thoughts, I went to my room and let the tears out, cause you know I was hurt.
I still love my Mom, even if at times she tends to misunderstand my thoughts or feelings at times and only gets me maybe only half of the time.
but I know that I can never tell her that side to myself, that I finally found.
or the fact that pheromone energies was half the cause of my seizures,
though it wouldn’t just be pheromone energies.
it wouldn’t just be my family that would be the cause, when it came to that pheromone energy, and by “pheromone” I mean like the hormone energies...
and besides that kind of energy, the other type of energies by both people and a place, could cause it as well.
the larger the crowd of people in one room, even if the room is big enough, and with the guard down, the energy coming off of those people will overwhelm the body that let’s it’s guard down and causing a seizure.
I don’t think Charlie has anything to worry about with that, I mean if it is true that she is a Earth Angel.
her wanting to help the sinners be redeemed and get to heaven,
can be seen by some fans as a Earth Angel trait.
I still think it’s possible she will not be able to redeem all of them, but only some who have some hope to change because they still have some good in them deep deep DEEP down.
but as for those who have crossed a line that not even some people behind bars would cross, and would beat any one to death if they find out the disgusting thing they had done, once they are in prison with them.
I don’t believe those kind of people can be redeemed, or even deserve it.
I think Charlie could learn this when she learns what kind of act they done that landed them in hell in the first place.
I think that both Octavia and Charlie have good points in their views, on how their dads could be wrong, but there are sometimes two sides to everything.
Octavia might of saw her parents being deeply in love, but it might of been a act that her parents didn’t want her to know, and only Stella ended up in love with Stolas (but still loves power and her title), while Stolas did possibly love Stella but it was more platonic and friend zoned type of love, and they were both possible in a arranged marriage.
Stolas might of fell for Blitz even if Blitz ended up being a female Imp, well possibly.
so no matter if Blitz was male or female, Stolas would end up falling for them.
at least that is what I think...and we can only hope that Stolas and Blitz will work things out after what happen in the last episode.
and we the fans know there is a possibility that both Ozzie and Fizzy
are in the closet, as in the Love Closet.
you can’t hide what the fans spot in your eyes.
even if those two can be jerks, they have their sweet and adorkable moments.
even before seeing the episode where those two appear in,
I couldn’t help but find the real Fizzarolli as adorable when I saw a short clip of him.
it’s like one of those “Oh No....He’s Hot!” type of memes.
even Ozzie and Fizzy have their cute moments in that episode,
I should take two breads and place it each of their faces
(one being used for Ozzie’s left side of his face, and the other for the right of Fizzy’s face)
and say “stop being cute and idiot sandwiches”
though I don’t think I would be able to reach that high, even if those two were real.
cause I’m around 5′5″ and I’m only a bit taller when wearing shoes that lift me up a bit and make me slightly taller.
Collin is a cute cinnamon roll in my view, he does seem to actually care about helping humans out of the goodness of his heart.
and I think Cletus and Keenie could keep some secrets from Collin,
like half the jobs they do, are “accidents” set-up by them.
I mean if you watch the episode where they first appear on a few times,
and sees Loopty’s story/flashback and even the C.h.e.r.u.b. commercial,
some might put two in two together, at the possibility that it isn’t just their actions on Lyle Lipton, that got them banished.
but also causing the death of Loopty.
the Cherubs that informed Cletus, Keenie and Collin, that they can’t go back to Heaven, might of not known about them accidentally killing Lyle, and were only there to inform them that their part in the death of Loopty, was the reason why they are banished.
Deerie, might of been talking about Loopty and not Lyle, the whole time.
I mean if you look at that switch in Loopty’s flashback, you might notice that it isn’t switched the other way which would end up causing Loopty’s death.
this would mean that it’s possibly true, that Cletus and Keenie (but not Collin)
have been purposely causing accidents, but made sure not to be caught.
that is until there was a witness that saw them mess with that switch that can age someone forward or backward.
if Collin found out the truth, that it wasn’t Lyle’s death that caused them to be kicked out and it was because both Cletus and Keenie went behind his back, and caused Loopty’s death on purpose, so they could appear to Lyle at his valuable state, just to have him “change” and not take his life...
then maybe Collin, will see that the punishment was correct, even if he didn’t have any part of killing Loopty on purpose, he still didn’t stop the accident with Lyle and could see both deaths as his fault, because he didn’t stop Keenie or Cletus.
it be freaky if that theory turn out to be true, but it be the good kind of freaky.
like some theories turning out to be true, is the best kind.
like the whole Kris eating the Pie in Deltarune, or like the possibility that they didn’t eat the pie until after they came back home from breaking into the library and creating a dark fountain portal to the cyber world.
you know the whole Cletus, Keenie and Collin being banished, might be a blessing in disguise.
living on Earth might be good for them, yeah there can be messed up stuff there, but there is also good things, too.
Earth, even though has some bad stuff and people living on it, also has beautiful things on it and the life that grows on it.
and you wonder why Pink Diamond fell in love with Earth and the life that grows and lives there, the same could be said for any Earth Angel who chooses to call Earth their home, well for some, they would end up being born on Earth instead of heaven because their Soul-Parent (or one of their Soul-Parents if they have more than one) accidentally fragmented while on Earth.
also I can’t be the only one ho believes that Loopty was killed by Cletus and Keenie, just so they could use it as way to make Lyle (namely Keenie and Cletus) change into a “better person”....
this is possibly how Cletus and Keenie ran things, having the humans have “accidents” that they would cause, but Loopty would be the first to actually die in the accidents that those two would setup.
they keep Collin out of the loop, most likely to keep him from telling them it is a bad and sinful idea.
well it wouldn’t be the first that a Angel without even being a Fallen Angel,
would do something for the so called “greater good” that would cause either physical or emotional pain, or both.
it’s likely in history (that didn’t happen in Helluva Boss Or Hazbin Hotel),
while Lucifer (not the version of Charlie’s Dad) when he was getting into Lilith’s head, the same could be said for Adam, who was given a Toxic-Masculinity boost by another Angel, same goes for Lilith who got a Toxic-Femininity boost.
even if Charlie’s Dad only puts her idea down, because he doesn’t believe it can be done, but he might only tell her that because he doesn’t want her to get her hopes up and become heart broken, and if both he and Lilith are having marriage trouble, it’s possible that she is making herself look like the “good guy” and her husband the “bad guy”....
but if you ask me, the real counterparts of Lilith and Adam, were playing both...
doesn’t change the fact that Adam crossed some lines, and he only saw Lilith as a object to be owned.
it’s possible that when Adam and Eve did get together, the karma was going to hit Adam eventually, ya know the whole forbidden fruit thing.
and the three angels that let it get worse, are just as much as responsible.
even if my pendulum did give a truthful answer, that one of them did kill the Earth Angel child of Lilith, that was given to her by the Earthly Mother...
that would mean that would possibly be part of the reason why the karma was allowed on Adam.
also if by chance some Earth Angels read this, you don’t have to agree with what I believe could be true.
that the reason why Eve was used to tempt Adam, was for his punishment for what he and those three angels did, and causing the healing for Lilith to fail.
such a thing might not be used in any possible truths in movies or shows that involve the history that has to do with Adam and Eve.
if I had to guess, I think maybe Adam and Eve and their children might be part of a Royal Family in Heaven, in the Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel Universe.
Abel and Cain have that whole arguing and rival brothers type thing going on, at least I’m guessing they might be like that if when they appear in one of those shows.
not sure if there be a Antichrist or in other words a Anti-Messiah in a episode,
but we might be surprised if there there will be one.
I do stick to my feelings that if someone I believe could be a Antichrist but not a full one, even tries to pull that Antichrist bull dung...
I will take him by the ear and show no mercy to the said ear.
it’s like that whole feeling and meme, “had it with your sh*t”
it was what Kris repeated when going to pull out their soul,
then after doing so, said they were going to eat all the pie.
which that ended up predicting what was gonna show in a future chapter of Deltarune.
I still hold on to the theory that they didn’t eat the pie, until after coming home from breaking into the library and opening up a new dark fountain portal.
and I think it might be possible, that if Earth Angels were in Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel, they would choose to go to live on Earth again, or live in Hell temporary until their next rebirth.
and the reason why they choose not to go back to Heaven, because they know something is seriously wrong.
though Earth Angels, even ones who are succubus heritage, might only exist in noncanon AU of the two shows.
so even if I do come up with the theory that there is a possibility that Octavia and Charlie could be Earth Angels, that would still end up being incorrect.
but it doesn’t mean they wouldn’t still be part Angel on both of their fathers side of the family.
not all theories have to be correct, and sometimes we can be okay that our theories end up being debunked.
one of things that could be a prank that is pulled by my pendulum, is that Stolas (not the one from Helluva Boss) acted as father to me sometime after my life was taken in one of my past lives, thanks to a ritual that some dirty shisno humans did.
even if it does turn out that that life, my past life’s dad’s name was George and he ended up involved in what happen in the attic.
it doesn’t mean that the George that was in that one lady’s attic, that choked one of the guys trying to help, is the same George.
yeah I did ask if the man who was involved was my past life’s dad and if his name was George, and I got a “Yes” from my pendulum.
and it was a surprise to find some form of results when I tried to look up some info to see if there was anything about a attic and George.
sometimes it’s good not to remember a full picture or everything from a past life, because sometimes it could be very traumatic.
is it weird that I think that there is a possibility that Heaven has a very big library and bookcases that reach very high like a tower or building,
while Hell’s library is really small and the colors are like a brown or bronze color, while the library in Heaven is all white and maybe have some form of blue...?
speaking of books, I think after I finish reading one of my FNAF books, I will start on the next one.
I think the one with the ball pit that lets you travel through time, might be my favorite....it does seem to be.
at least it’s better than real life time travelers, who even if they do try to “fix” things in the past, the wrong type of fixing can cause something really bad to happen.
like even if there is someone from the past who was really bad, they might end up having a descendant who is really good and does good for others,
but by killing that bad ancestor in the past before they could have a child or children, it can cause a terrible effect and the future where their descendant had lived in, might become far worse when the time traveler returns.
this is why time traveling should be used responsibly, maybe to save something that was lost and the memory of them being lost, could still be there, but the said lost thing could be moved to the future and when the person who thought what they lost before, thought it was gone forever, can be happy to see it again.
Fry became his own Grandfather, when he messed with time, but it could be fixed if he and the rest of Planet Express, went back in time again and stop Fry from killing his Original Grandfather, fixing the Paradox Timeline.
some events cannot be messed with, even ones in the far past, to do so might cause even more trouble and cause possible really bad changes to the future timeline.
I might not be super smart, even if the info on RH negatives says they are all super intelligent.
but it’s thanks to watching movies about time travel, and noticing something that my Mom told me before, and me bringing it up and her saying that never happen, makes me believe that some dirty shisnos are messing with things they really shouldn’t.
my Mom once told me that one of my Uncles did something really bad during his childhood, and when I brought it up again a few years later, she tells me he never did it.
which is why I believe someone had messed with the timeline.
they possibly went back in time and stop that event from happening.
time travelers might think no one will remember the past timeline, but that is not true at all.
some people will remember, even if it is like selective memories and might not be all of them.
but they will remember and know something is off.
plus even if there are some videos or whatever that has some people claiming to be from the future, it doesn’t mean they are from this timeline’s future.
it’s most likely they come from a Alternate Timeline where they mistakenly ended up in this one.
also because I started to get a little too off topic about the theory about Charlie and Octavia, I had to edit the name of the title for this.
even if it turns out that the two aren’t really Earth Angels, they would still be technically Angels.
anyway maybe I can talk about the whole theory about Charlie and Octavia technically being Angels in another post.
right now I’m going to check out some art on here.
so thanks for listening, see ya later and stay safe everyone.
#octavia helluva boss#charlie morningstar#charlie magne hazbin hotel#earth angels#helluva boss theory#hazbin hotel theory#talking about feelings
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Do you do any MikeVictim / bible FNAF type content?
NNo MikeVictim, sorry! ^^; I never really fully understood that theory tbh- like I don't fully know what exactly it is- was it the one about Michael being a robot of CC-?
Also I'm not sure what you mean by "bible fnaf content"- could you elaborate please?
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It’s really difficult getting through Matpat’s P4 video, but I’m not sure if that’s because of my own apprehension or because of the factual errors in the lore.
The thing is, I don’t blame him for getting stuff wrong with this series’ lore. Everyone does at first. The Teddie-Yu connection is, like... Baby’s First P4 Theory. Everyone who does theories for the series seems to start out with that one. But it’s also the first one that gets discarded as soon as those people go and take a look at the rest of the franchise. Y’know why? Because there’s TONS of stuff you don’t have a chance of realizing until you see the whole picture.
It’s what happens when the creators of a franchise keep the series bible locked more tightly than the safes of the Royal Bank of Scotland and then expects the fans to figure it all out for themselves like “duh”.
The problem is, just because you haven’t seen a thing yet, it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. And him acting like he knows more about the franchise than people who’ve played it for years, some even since the P1/2 days is, frankly... quite a bit annoying.
But then again, I’m quite protective of Persona. I’ll freely admit that. I won’t let that stop me from pointing out where he’s made good observations (there are a few), but at the same time I feel like he should focus his channel on making context for the series he has a firm grasp on and LIKES making content about. I know, people give him flak for focusing on FNAF too much, but, HEY, at least he clearly loves those games! That makes watching the videos enjoyable!
This one, however, it’s just... I can tell he doesn’t have any real passion for P4. I’m glad he’s giving Teddie some attention, but it feels so soulless...
Making theory videos for Persona is already difficult as is, since you need a ton of sources to verify your theory across the whole franchise (believe me, I’ve been there.) But this video just makes it look like Persona had no actual, consistent lore, which isn’t true...
Ugh, I’m just rambling. I should just get on with it and finish the video, so I can start writing my script.
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Chills
"Dude like literal chills, what the fuck." Frank said disturbed looking at Joe in bewilderment.
"Your voice gives me like literal chills, how did you do that?"
Joe snickers. "Stop being dramatic, I'm just really good at impressions. You've seen me do it before?"
"Ya well before you didn't sound exactly like my mom. Her voice coming out of your face is just wrong." Frank whined leaning back into the tall creaky bedboard.
Joe sipped at his can grinning at Frank's discomfort. "I'm sure she'd love it. I am her favorite son."
Frank rolled his eyes and kicked Joe in the leg. "Yeah, yeah laugh it up, you’re not even her kid. We both know she likes you because you let her do your hair."
"What can I say, I'm a people pleaser," Joe says, flipping his shoulder-length dirty blonde hair in an exaggerated manner.
"I have half a mind to go at your head with scissors," Frank grumbled under his breath gulping down the last of his beer.
"Too late for that, remember when Molly tried that, we were like 14 and she was uh 10 I think?"
Frank laughs. "Oh Yeah! She was giving you the evil eye all day, that day. Then she came at you with the kitchen scissors. That's my sister! What did you even do?"
Joe looked away conspiratorially, not making eye contact with his friend. "Might have broken a few of her barbies by accident."
"That's what happened to Malibu Barbie! You bastard, that was my favorite!" Frank yelled joyfully, tackling Joe to the bed.
Both laughing as they wrestled, Joe eventually gaining the upper hand. His legs around Frank’s neck in an almost chokehold. Joe reached over to the beer pack next to the bed, picking up a new can.
"It's not my fault! I had all those conspiracy theories and creepypastas bouncing around my head back then. And don't think you're innocent either! I know what you did to that old teddy bear." He said pointing at Frank with an accusatory finger, can in hand.
"What I was supposed to do it looked like Fred Bear man. I wasn't about to let Molly get eaten by some robot monsters."
Laughing Joe cracked open the beer can.
Frank patted Joe’s thigh. Joe let's go, releasing his legs into the bed, leaving Frank in between his legs.
“Can you believe we spent so much time playing FNAF?” Frank said turning his body so he was now perpendicular to Joe. Laying his head on the blonde’s thighs.
“I honestly can’t believe you got my scrawny ass to sit still for so long, or even get to that old ass house of yall’s. Out in the middle of bum fuck nowhere neighbors a mile away, and fields for days.” Joe grumbled gently, messing with Frank's curly hair, and sipping at his bear.
“Certainly a lot of bum fucking going on somewhere,” Frank said, wiggling his eyebrows.
Joe gave him a displeased and slightly disappointed look. “Now Franklin none of that here. For we mediocre men from the bible belt of America must never speak of the butt fucking.” He says softly scandalous, empty hand on his chest.
Frank laughs, getting up still on his knees and facing Joe. “Oh but my dear Joseph, we have left that godforsaken belt. And now are here within a city, and not just any city but San Francisco, so the buttfucking may be spoken of once again.” Joe laughs, watching Frank pull off the worst posh accent he had ever heard.
Frank smiles, takes Joe’s hand, and kisses it, trailing said kisses up his arm. Pushing Joe onto his back with a kiss on the cheek. Frank lays down next to Joe, the two hold hands as they laugh and giggle.
“Godforsaken Bible belt.’ Joe snorts. ‘Fucking oxymoron.” Joe says.
“Ah yes, of course, thin smart ass would know, but of course, you have fallen for this moron yourself.” He gets up on his right arm looking down at Joe.
“Of course, I am but a moron-sexual as they say.” He pulls Frank into a kiss.
Frank pulls back and laughs a bit. “Of course, I am but your himbo.” He falls into Joe’s arms. They sit and hold each other close.
“Love you.”
“Love you too boo.”
Joe snorts.
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