#Eric Charmelo
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this is what Elongated Muskrat has taken from us (only force of nature that could bring his ill-gained site to its knees) personally:
#the ''catalytic converters'' and ''he should have fought back harder'' ones were Bobo blinking in Morse Code that CW's fuckery happened#and this is just Likes! not counting actual tweets - Robbie Thompson and Bobo and MegFitz all acknowledged Destiel as canon#so this is practically a receipts list feel free to add any I missed#supernatural#spn#spn writers#robert berens#eric charmelo#meredith glynn#destiel#network fuckery#spn is queer#mine
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#once in a rare blue moon a spnfamily tag will hit me in my cold dead heart#Jenny Klein#Ben edlund#rsj#Nicole Snyder#Eric Charmelo#wga strike
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supernatural s11e13 love hurts (w. eric charmelo, nicole snyder)
STACY Ew, I can taste her mom lipstick…you’re telling her tonight, right?
rude, stacy :P
SAM Is that a hickey? DEAN And? It was Valentine’s Day. I can’t help it if I’m a hopeless romantic. SAM You got half of that right. DEAN Just doing my civic duty. Helping all the single ladies. You know the best thing about February 14th. You don’t have to be Mr. Right, just Mr. Right Now. SAM That’s classy. DEAN Yeah and what’d you do, judgy? Curl up in your Snuggie, watch '50 Shades' on cable?
cuz every girl crazy bout sharp dressed man men
*squints* what is that fake domain, danharper.search for the knockoff facebook page. and we got an untitled folder, not quite untitled 1 and 2 but i'll take it :p
always with the full kitchenette and vintage appliances. and bringing back the ridiculous little separators. tires!
DEAN I need a beer, regroup, maybe get lucky. SAM Didn’t you just get lucky? DEAN That was in Kansas. What do you say? You with me? Ready to go scrape a few hearts off the bar room floor? SAM I think I’ll pass. I’m gonna go hit the lore, but you go be you. DEAN Suit yourself.
dean's feelin his oats again apparently! feels like he had some seasons there where far as we knew he wasn't ever getting laid
laughing at the wife shoving these witchy items down the garbage disposal. one way to get rid of things i guess? not so good for the plumbing though
hey they named a motel after me personally
DEAN Hey. Any luck? SAM No. You? DEAN Nah. Hey what’s a…uh…dad bod?
please. (reminder that all bodies are good bodies)
MELISSA All I had to do was chant it and seal it with a kiss.
oh i see. it was plot-relevant mom lipstick.
SAM So the curse is transmittable? DEAN Like a magic STD. Okay that works. Kinda makes you nostalgic for good old fashioned herpes.
this is very fic-ish. LOL and of course dean kisses the lady to take the curse on. clearly he should hot potato it over to sam at some point but we know that's not gonna happen :p
baby lookin pretty in all those pink highlights
DEAN I’d say that went pretty well. What do you think? SAM Wait. Are you serious? You think it’s a great idea to give yourself a fatal curse? DEAN Well, target's off her back ain’t it? SAM I’m just saying. You don’t have to do this. Be the guinea pig. DEAN What? SAM Be the martyr. Try to carry the weight by yourself. Do this. DEAN I’m gonna be fine, okay? And as long as I’m good, she’s good and that’s the important thing. Besides. It proved our theory didn’t it? That this whole kiss of death thing is transmittable. I mean, I’m not asking for the Nobel here, but thank you.
both reasonable to do and also his martyr tendencies are well documented :p but even if he died, wouldn't it just go back to her? moo point, as they say?
SAM I guess. Here we go. Someone chants a curse, lays a wet one on you, then the victim is seduced and killed by the Qareen, but instead of taking the form of Barbara Eden, the present themselves as your deepest, darkest desire.
oh great. so we're gonna see amara then. very convenient of this witch to leave post-it notes with all the details on their monster including how to kill it
okay, that was adorable. so happy to win for once, didn't even care to claim the prize
AMARA You’re a mystery. I can see inside your heart. Feel the love you feel. Except it’s cloaked in shame. When it comes to this, you can’t help yourself, so why fight it. Just give in.
i mean it's just funny because we did kind of do this already in 4x14 sex and violence with the siren.
from s4e14 SAM Yeah. You see, sirens can read minds. They see what you want most and then they can kinda, like, cloak themselves. You know, like an illusion. -- MUNROE Dean's all mine. SAM You poisoned him. MUNROE No. I gave him what he needed. And it wasn't some bitch in a G-string. It was you. A little brother that looked up to him, that he could trust. And now he loves me. He'd do anything for me. And I gotta tell you, Sam, that kind of devotion? I mean, watching someone kill for you? It's the best feeling in the world. SAM Is that why you're slutting all over town? MUNROE Ahh. I get bored, like we all do. And I wanna fall in love again. And again...and again.
have to do some mental gymnastics to not understand that as wincest, i think. still hard to wrap my head around that making it to the screen. anyway. dean wants to bang amara, let's get to it
DEAN It was Amara. SAM That surprise you? DEAN That doesn’t surprise you? SAM Honestly? DEAN Honestly? You seriously think the sister of God is my deepest darkest desire? SAM She isn’t? DEAN No! She can’t be! SAM Why not? DEAN Why? Because if she is that means that I’m… SAM Means you’re what? Complicit? Weak? Evil? DEAN For starters, yeah.
SAM Dean. Do you honestly think you ever had a choice in the matter? She’s the sister of God, and for some reason she picked you and that sucks, but if you think I’m gonna blame you or judge you…I’m not. DEAN You know that I want her ass dead. SAM Yes. Of course. And I know you’ve also probably beaten yourself up a hundred times over it, but where has that gotten us? Just how bad is it? DEAN Standing here right now, every bone in my body wants to run her through. Send her back to that hole she crawled out of. But when I’m near her, I don’t know. Something happens and I can’t explain it, but to call it desire or love…it’s not that. I’m screwed man. We wanna kill the darkness. We need to kill the darkness. And I don’t think I can. I’m sorry to do that to you, ya know, but when it comes right down to it… SAM I got it Dean.
i honestly can't remember the last time they had that open of a conversation. dare i say, that's practically out of character understanding from sam, when it comes to dean hiding something important like that. i fully expected the show to have him flip his lid over dean not telling him something relevant to their big monster hunt, not trusting him with being able to handle the truth. maybe i'm just jaded by how they've done overblown brother conflict for so many seasons. but anyway, i'm thankful for sam being so reasonable and understanding. i'm thankful for dean just telling him straight up what's going on and that he can recognize he can't just power through this problem. usually they only talk this way with other people, it's nice to have it directed at each other for once. still a little bit in shock, honestly.
i like how they focused on the money he left to cover the damages again after showing him slip it under initially. like hello fans yes they do try to cover the fact that they're constantly wrecking motel rooms. feel like these later seasons have a lot of little nods like that (like say, the rock paper scissors, a bitch/jerk moment in 11x04, etc)
#supernatural#spnwatch#spn 11x13#spn 4x14#eric charmelo#nicole snyder#rock paper scissors#now i got zz top stuck in my head#sharp dressed man
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siege: wrote 4x07 it's the great pumpkin, sam winchester (with eric kripke), 4x12 criss angel is a douchebag, 4x18 the monster at the end of this book, 5x05 fallen idols, 5x12 swap meat, 5x17 99 problems
dabb & loflin: wrote 4x06 yellow fever, 4x13 after school special, 4x19 jump the shark, 5x06 i believe the children are our future, 5x11 sam interrupted, 5x16 dark side of the moon, 5x19 hammer of the gods, 6x04 weekend at bobby's, 6x07 family matters, 6x13 unforgiven, 6x18 frontierland, 7x03 the girl next door, 7x08 season seven time for a wedding, 7x14 plucky pennywhistle's magic menagerie, 7x22 there will be blood, 8x02 what's up, tiger mommy?
glass: wrote 6x02 two and a half men, 6x08 all dogs go to heaven, 6x12 like a virgin, 6x19 mommy dearest, 7x04 defending your life, 7x11 adventures in babysitting, 7x18 party on, garth, 8x06 southern comfort, 8x12 as time goes by, 8x18 freaks and geeks, 9x12 sharp teeth, 9x17 mother's little helper, 10x04 paper moon, 10x12 about a boy
charmelo & snyder: wrote 6x06 you can't handle the truth, 6x14 mannequin 3: the reckoning, 6x17 my heart will go on, 9x05 dog dean afternoon, 9x13 the purge, 10x06 ask jeeves, 10x13 halt & catch fire, 11x07 plush, 11x13 love hurts
matthews: wrote 6x05 live free or twi-hard, 6x10 caged heat, 6x16 and then there were none
#yes loflin wrote two solo eps and dabb wrote 29 and became s12-15 showrunner but i'm exercising prosecutorial discretion on the charges here#supernatural#julie siege#andrew dabb#daniel loflin#adam glass#eric charmelo#nicole snyder#brett matthews
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Imagine that a Supernatural sequel and its showrunner have been announced. Spin the wheel, find out which writer is the showrunner, and answer the question:
If you want to know/remember which episodes your writer wrote, you can follow the links below.
Eric Kripke
Sera Gamble
Jeremy Carver
Andrew Dabb
Ben Edlund
Cathryn Humphris
John Shiban
Raelle Tucker
Robert Berens
Buckleming - Brad Buckner and Eugenie Ross-Leming
Adam Glass
Robbie Thompson
Charmelo&Snyder - Eric Charmelo and Nicole Snyder
Steve Yockey
Davy Perez
Meredith Glynn
Jenny Klein
Ryan Murphy - he's the creator/writer of Glee, 9-1-1, American Horror Story, etc. He's never written anything for spn, he's just here for the joke (and for me to see if there are people who would watch Supernatural, written by the creator of Glee).
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STACKEDNATURAL ⇉ 69/327 (part 1)
6.6 You Can't Handle the Truth Written by David Reed, Eric Charmelo & Nicole Snyder Directed by Jan Eliasberg Original Air Date: October 29, 2010
#supernatural#destiel#dean winchester#castiel#destieledit#deanwinchesteredit#casedit#stackednatural#spnedit#supernaturaledit#cowboycoven#spncreatorsdaily#userbbelcher#usersawah#donestiel#becauseofthebowties#seraphcastiel#usermoogs#rambleoncas#tusersana#userdorksinlove#deancaskiss#anztag#userbon#deanncastiel#jennmish#userrlaura#usererinlindslay
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The thing is. I don’t have to wonder what it means. I know what it means. There are four writers where I can say with absolute certainty they were writing dean winchester gay love angel. Steve Love can get crazier than that yockey. Bobo I love you berens. Meredith cas is my best friend Glynn. Eric twitter likes full of destiel gay sex charmelo. However. The problem. The issue. Is There are more writers than that
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oh to know what eric charmelo must've endured in that writers room
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Charmelo and Snyder:
6.06 You Can't Handle the Truth
6.14 Mannequin 3: The Reckoning
6.17 My Heart Will Go On
9.05 Dog Dean Afternoon
9.13 The Purge
10.06 Ask Jeeves
10.13 Halt & Catch Fire
11.07 Plush
11.13 Love Hurts
Raelle Tucker:
1.03 Dead in the Water
1.12 Faith
1.14 Nightmare
1.21 Salvation
2.04 Children Shouldn't Play with Dead Things
2.10 Hunted
2.16 Roadkill
2.20 What Is and What Should Never Be
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AU where SPN actually makes the obvious references to Rocky Horror like you'd expect and we have to fight to convince people "yeah it's because camp horror but HERE'S WHY it's also in a gay way" instead of just accepting we can never make anyone understand the unhinged Queer Cinema of their Pink Flamingos reference rabbithole that extends through IYKYK references coding Dean and Ash as queer apart from Sam and the twitter background of SPN's first openly gay writer Eric Charmelo whose co-authored episodes kept throwing in queer film references just because they could and all throughout the set dressing of s10 as they canonized Dean and Crowley fucked and oh my god open the schools this show is deep-cut queer poetry and assimilationist lgbts can't READ 😭😭😭
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#girl help my cishet boomer parents know more queer cinema history than the Ultimate Arbiters who crucify you for acknowledging spn counts#clip related it's me when I have to witness this#(lol this post started with me wondering ''but why didn't they reference Rocky Horror?'' then just spiraled)#supernatural#spn#dean winchester#ash#spn meta#dean is bi#spn is queer#2.02#10.02#mine#Youtube
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Some friendly advice: like 80% of the posts about spn on here are straight up wrong 😭 like im not even convinced half the fandom have watched the show. is it sexist? I mean yeah but so is literally every other show that started in the mid 2000s (some seasons are better than others so it's 50/50 and there are some genuinely very good female characters - yes ones that don't die as well). their handling of queer characters is also not actually that bad, there are several recurring queer characters and cas is also a main character from s4. some of the queer characters even live! (which is saying something tbh because they kill off most of the cishet characters too lmao). imo the network censorship is 10x worse than the way the actual writers handle queer characters, as there are 4 queer writers that played a major role in the writing and production of the show (Steve Yockey, Bobo Berens, Robbie Thompson and Eric Charmelo)... I'm not saying it's perfect or even brilliant, since a lot of the episodes do come off as a bit outdated now, but anyone who acts like it's an abusive relationship doesn't actually like the show and is putting themselves through pain they could avoid if they just watched a different show.
Headnote, sorry this post was massive but I hope this clears my opinion up!
Very valid, my post is mostly in response to the post (will link if found) where someone mentioned that even if two men are dating they never say they are gay and they never refer to queer partnerships as "gay" which to be fair can be a bit of a nitpick but I've also heard SO MUCH about the writers writing something very explicitly queer in and then the producers & execs watered it down for the network, Granted I should have put less heat on the writers for that but regardless the show is a product of its producing team and if the producing team, including the network, butchered it, then the show was butchered. What we see is what we have. I'm not going to watch a show where every 4 seconds I have to go "hm that wasn't great but I do know that it was hypothetically better than this in a never-released, arguably nonexistent state."
Also I love lots of 2000s media but don't let it get away with sexism, transphobia, homophobia, racism, etc. just because it's a product of its time. I criticize Friends for its poor handling of fat people and Chandler's MTF mom despite still loving the show and rewatching a season or two every fall––def didn't mean for the post to be like "If u like a show that ever handles a topic badly that means ur cancelled" bc that is a piss take. Just like. The more consistent it is the less of a pass I give it. If there are 4 episodes where someone is like "Chandler's dad is a woman!!!" I'll be like ehhhhh but keep watching but when it's 15 seasons of "ooh I wanna squeeze this possessed woman's big honking mommy milkers my hands are so hairy form jerking off" I just can't stay into it (which again, haven't seen much of spn so people's criticism of it could make me think this happens more than it does).
The post this is in reference to was kind of about how many fans of supernatural are fans of what it could be and not fans of what the show is actually like. Granted I know many parts of it are good otherwise it wouldn't have such a massive fanbase! Didn't mean to drag a lot of people's fav show too hard!! I'm sure there's much to love about it.
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supernatural s11e7 plush (w. eric charmelo, nicole snyder)
not the most promising start. offbrand donnie darko bunny
DEAN Really? I mean, really? SAM You ever hear of privacy? DEAN Hey, you want privacy, close your door.
as ever, privacy being invaded really hurts my heart. absolutely dean has a point and sam should have closed his door, but dean also had a shitty fucking smirk on his face and that nasty tone and i'm ready to punch him. i don't pray, i've never believed in anything, and i'm horribly hurt and offended that he'd act like this. i know their history and the dumb plot shit makes prayer not the same thing as it is out here in the real world, but come fucking on. he's still being a raging asshole about sam taking the chance on believing even just a tiny bit that it's god behind the visions.
DEAN Thought we talked about this. SAM Yeah, we did, Dean. But why is it so hard to believe that God could be sending me visions about the darkness? DEAN You kidding me? He didn't feel the need to show up for the Apocalypse. Why would he give a crap now? SAM I don't know. Maybe because she's his sister? What do you wanna do? Sit back? Ignore him? Do nothing? DEAN No, that's -- that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying, don't count on God. Okay? Count on us.
count on us (so when you gonna tell sam your secret huh DEAN-O)
glad they let donna wear a uniform that vaguely fits and maybe dropping the fat jokes. maybe. (of course not)
BROCK Not much, man. I mean, I was just hammering my bi's, gettin' all swole,
please no and thank you
s11e7 rita / true colors (1990-1992) brigid brannagh as katie davis
whoa okay so i definitely know this person and i think... it's from.... true colors?? which is yet another tv show i haven't thought about since the early 90s. wild
surely couldn't let sam's clown phobia not make an appearance in a killer ghost possessed child entertainer costume episode. was it purely so they could subject sam to a clown :p it's never gonna beat this post-clown interaction though
7x14 plucky pennywhistle's magical menagerie
dean heartily laughing and sam with his arms outstretched absolutely coated in glitter (i wanna paint it some day, so sparkly) will make me smile every time
also, i love this line
from 2x02 DEAN Planes crash! SAM And apparently clowns kill!
okay anyway. rehashing the good clown phobia moments :P (he did say the clown fight in 7x14 was therapeutic, guess he needs more exposure therapy [beating])
taking another moment to appreciate how much better his hair looks this season, especially post-scuffle
she is so very cute
DONNA I don't have time for insubordination. SAM Or is it maybe that you're treating new Doug like old Doug and not even giving him a chance? DONNA You know what I think? You need to mind your own beeswax. We have a case to solve.
saw her line comin a mile away
outsiders with sibling issues are evergreen
*staring into camera*
crack treated seriously vibes
SAM I keep praying to God because if it is God -- and I know you think it isn't, but if it is -- then he's showing me something I don't know what to do with. DEAN What? SAM The cage. DEAN Lucifer's cage? SAM Yeah. What if he's telling me I have to go back? What if he's saying that's where the answer is to beating the Darkness? DEAN Sam, no. No, okay. I don't know if these visions are coming from God or PBS or what. But we've been down that road. Anything having to do with that cage is -- it -- it's suicide. And you of all people know that. So, no. Just…Not gonna happen. SAM Okay. DEAN Okay.
actually okay? they both have a habit of agreeing and doing whatever the fuck they were gonna do anyway. i mean if dean isn't gonna come clean then whatever anyway. bitterness rising again
#supernatural#spnwatch#spn 11x07#hiky#spnhiky#true colors tv show#brigid brannagh#spn and no privacy#eric charmelo#nicole snyder
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writing credits, seasons 1-6 only because this post is long enough:
kripke: 1x01 pilot, 1x02 wendigo, 1x09 home, 1x16 shadow, 1x22 devil's trap, 2x01 in my time of dying, 2x22 all hell breaks loose part two, 3x01 the magnificent seven, 3x16 no rest for the wicked, 4x01 lazarus rising, 4x10 heaven and hell (story), 4x22 lucifer rising, 5x01 sympathy for the devil, 5x09 the real ghostbusters, 5x22 swan song, 6x22 the man who knew too much; show creator; seasons 1-5 showrunner
kripke & siege: 4x07 it's the great pumpkin, sam winchester
siege: 4x12 criss angel is a douchebag, 4x18 the monster at the end of this book, 5x05 fallen idols, 5x12 swap meat, 5x17 99 problems
tucker: 2x04 children shouldn't play with dead things, 2x10 hunted, 2x16 roadkill, 2x20 what is and what should never be
gamble & tucker: 1x03 dead in the water, 1x12 faith, 1x14 nightmare, 1x21 salvation
gamble: 2x03 bloodlust, 2x08 crossroad blues, 2x13 houses of the holy, 2x17 heart, 2x21 all hell breaks loose part one, 3x02 the kids are alright, 3x07 fresh blood, 3x12 jus in bello, 3x15 time is on my side, 4x02 are you there god? it's me, dean winchester, 4x09 i know what you did last summer, 4x17 it's a terrible life, 4x21 when the levee breaks, 5x02 good god, y'all, 5x07 the curious case of dean winchester, 5x13 the song remains the same, 5x21 two minutes to midnight, 6x01 exile on main st, 6x11 appointment in samarra, 6x21 let it bleed; 4 episodes in season 7; seasons 6-7 showrunner
gamble & humphris: 3x10 dream a little dream of me
humphris: 2x07 the usual suspects, 2x14 born under a bad sign, 3x05 bedtime stories, 4x04 metamorphosis, 4x14 sex and violence
humphris & shiban: 1x20 dead man's blood
shiban: 1x06 skin, 1x07 hook man, 1x11 scarecrow, 1x15 the benders, 2x02 everybody loves a clown, 2x09 croatoan, 2x15 tall tales, 2x19 folsom prison blues
edlund: 2x05 simon said, 2x12 nightshifter, 2x18 hollywood babylon, 3x03 bad day at black rock, 3x09 malleus maleficarum, 3x13 ghostfacers, 4x05 monster movie, 4x08 wishful thinking, 4x16 on the head of a pin, 5x04 the end, 5x10 abandon all hope, 5x14 my bloody valentine, 5x20 the devil you know, 6x03 the third man, 6x09 clap your hands if you believe, 6x15 the french mistake, 6x20 the man who would be king; 7 episodes in seasons 7-8
carver: 3x04 sin city, 3x08 a very supernatural christmas, 3x11 mystery spot, 3x14 long-distance call, 4x03 in the beginning, 4x11 family remains, 4x15 death takes a holiday, 4x20 the rapture, 5x03 free to be you and me, 5x08 changing channels, 5x15 dead men don't wear plaid, 5x18 point of no return; 7 episodes in seasons 8-11; seasons 8-11 showrunner
dabb & loflin: 4x06 yellow fever, 4x13 after school special, 4x19 jump the shark, 5x06 i believe the children are our future, 5x11 sam interrupted, 5x16 dark side of the moon, 5x19 hammer of the gods, 6x04 weekend at bobby's, 6x07 family matters, 6x13 unforgiven, 6x18 frontierland; 5 episodes in seasons 7-8; 2 solo episodes in season 8 (loflin); 29 solo episodes in seasons 8-15 (dabb); seasons 12-15 showrunner (dabb)
glass: 6x02 two and a half men, 6x08 all dogs go to heaven, 6x12 like a virgin, 6x19 mommy dearest; 11 episodes in seasons 7-10
charmelo & snyder: 6x06 you can't handle the truth, 6x14 mannequin 3: the reckoning, 6x17 my heart will go on; 6 episodes in seasons 9-11
matthews: 6x05 live free or twi-hard, 6x10 caged heat, 6x16 and then there were none
#supernatural#eric kripke#julie siege#raelle tucker#sera gamble#cathryn humphris#john shiban#ben edlund#jeremy carver#andrew dabb#daniel loflin#adam glass#eric charmelo#nicole snyder#brett matthews
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Eric charmelo and Nicole sender's approach to monsters really confuses me? because Sam and dean (and Bobby) do objectively awful things to innocent people in their episodes. and they have RANCID opinions on events (see Sam defending Bobby locking the shape shifter up, dean wanting to kill Maritza and sam convincing him to deport her instead).
but then it doesn't really feel like the narrative condemns them for it? I don't know if I'm missing stuff but legitimately if I am not they are just awful people.
#spn#ik there are other episode where they're awful to 'monsters' but the purge and ask jeeves always stick out to me
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It’s a Thursday for real and we have an episode for you! Miracles never cease. Join us as we discuss the vagaries of sibling silliness, lying badly, and un-sinking the Titanic to have more souls for your heaven war! Normal stuff!
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STACKEDNATURAL ⇉ 113.5/327
10.6 Ask Jeeves Written by Eric Charmelo & Nicole Snyder Directed by John MacCarthy Original Air Date: November 18, 2014
#supernatural#sam winchester#beverley#samwinchesteredit#samedit#stackednatural#sammy sunday#spnedit#supernaturaledit#cowboycoven#spncreatorsdaily#userbbelcher#becauseofthebowties#altarofrowena#rambleoncas#tusersana#userdorksinlove#deancaskiss#anztag#userbon#deanncastiel#jennmish#userrlaura#usererinlindslay#10x6#hes lactose intolerant.#hes a young buck. hes right behind yo-
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