#Epic venting

[dootznbootz]

"Warrior!Penelope AU" is super fun and I love it too but I hate the fact that I'll see shit with "she's finally cool now." as though she wasn't cool before.

And idk, as an Ares fan as well, I still wish it was Athena. She already looks after and is Penelope's patron Goddess in the Odyssey, most likely since she was young as well. Why can't she continue to watch over her?

Odysseus talks about how smart Penelope is and y'all think Athena's just gonna ignore her? Why? Because she's a woman? Did Penelope only become smart because of Odysseus? She's the goddess of weaving and Penelope is a damn good weaver and is cunning af. Literally other characters describe her as wise and cunning all the time in the Odyssey and literally tell Telemachus that "You're your mother's son as well." basically.

This isn't against anyone who enjoys or creates with the AU. I'm just complaining and I'm sad that there are some people who think that she has to be in a war to be "cool". I mean I have my lil kickass Penelope as well, being 75% naiad and a spunky lil shit, and that's just with what is in the Odyssey and what is known about Penelope that I've researched. She's cool. Non-AU or AU, doesn't matter.

[theultimatenonbinarynerd]

Epic Fandom We Need To Talk! (An Open Letter)

As a former survivor of severe Cyberbullying and harrasment I can no longer stay silent anymore. You have forced my hand.

This has gone way too far and I am massively disappointed. All I ask is that you listen to what I have to say. This is no longer a joke as a survivor of Cyberbullying and harrasment I can say that a misunderstanding has turned into The Epic Fandom putting the livelihood and well being of artists in danger. I ask you to be respectful and understand I am speaking from old wounds and experience. Please don't twist my words, I don't support 🍇 or Antinous he is a horrible character.

Tw: Mentions of Cyberbullying, 🍇 and harassment

Dear Epic Fandom,

You are better then this, I know you are. Polites taught us to greet the world with open arms and accept when people make mistakes and stop holding onto are anger. The fandom is growing and we can't stop it but I'm really disappointed in the people letting hate win and turning the fandom venomous and toxic

We are all Epic Fans but behind the glass on your screen there's a person, a person with feelings who you know nothing about. You all don't know the real Melody typing this but your all probably gonna make assumptions based on what you dont know and that is the danger of being online. The person who posted fanart of Antinous and Telemachus you didn't like, they have real feelings. Complicated messy feelings that aren't able to be articulated enough online.

As a survivor of bullying myself my motto is block or scroll. I myself am very uncomfortable with a lot of the ao3 tags shipping Odysseus with Poseidon or Zeus but do I go angrily type on my keyboard? No I don't cos it's none of my damnn business. When I saw that art, I was confused and uncomfortable but instead of being reckless and sentimental I asked for clarification. Taking Polites advice I used open arms and talked about what was bothering me without attacking the artist. Instead of being like Polites you all became Poseidon. Ruthlessness Is Mercy is not the way to go, it's a toxic way to go about life. Did you all not listen to that Thunder Saga and see how it destroyed everything Odysseus had known for the past thirteen years.

You should all be absolutely ashamed of yourself. This is not what the Epic Fandom should be. You don't like someone's fan art ask for clarification and or block. There is no need to be Ruthless and cruel. The fact two genuine heartfelt Apologises have been made and you still can't let it go very much clearly shows your character. You are very much like Poseidon and Zeus and should be ashamed. In Ares words you are all sick cowards. Not only that but you are clearly projecting. I suggest you go to therapy if you think your time in the Epic the musical fandom should be spent bullying and harassing people then leave. The number one rule is that there is always a person behind the screen and that you should think before you type.

I'm still not over the fact how you have twisted and triggered someone's truama. I also can't believe hate is being given after the artist mentioned her experience. 🍇 is not a thing to weaponise. I feel like the Wisdom Saga has made you far too comfortable in how you handle and discuss 🍇. The artist forgot her trigger warnings and wasn't even trying to imply the twisted image you put on her. Also I pointed out she shouldn't have tagged it Epic and apologied. Jorge has made adaptations to The Odssey a piece of fiction. What Jorge has done with Antinous is his own creative liberties. If you can't have sensitive and respectful conversation about something that is still happening to people I don't know what to say. Accusing someone of supporting 🍇 is not okay at all. The artist wasn't attending that way and understands she shouldn't have done what she did but it goes both ways. Look for context before you slam. Judging someone based on an honest mistake and huge misunderstanding is dangerous and cruel. Do you not understand the dangers this could put the artist in in real life. Please have open arms and think before you type. This is a serious topic and not a joke.

Moving on I want to talk about why I think this blew up so bad. It's because Elian was commissioned to do an animatic for Jorge. Listen you all would have blocked if it wasn't for that. I read comments saying they idolised her and that is a really f**** dangerous thing to do. Idiolising someone because they've been noticed or hired by Jorge isn't healthy at all. At the end of the day we are all human beings. Elian is allowed to make mistakes and grow. Outside of Epic this is becoming a massive problem in genuine.

Worse I've seen and heard about Artists like Mirscy and AnniFlamma getting attacked just for defending their friend. I'm sorry are we not allowed to defend our friends now from bullying? I can't speak for them but if I saw my friend getting hated and harassed on I'd be angry too, it's like a natural emotion to feel. Then again you are the same fandom that mocks Eurylochus for sticking up for his crew so I'm not suprised. These artists are human beings and not God's because Jorge noticed and appreciated their work. Stop twisting these artists into people there not.

I'm not Tiresias but I can see Jorge stopping collaborating with artists on animatics if you keep this disgusting behaviour up. Constructive criticism is okay but falsely twisting the image of an artist is not okay at all by doing this you are dehumanising artists and doing exactly what Hollywood does. Jorge will have to stop commissioning people it you keep using the fact he noticed them against them when they make mistakes like all human beings do.

Please do better and stop being Poseidons. An 8 year grudge was unhealthy and got him nowhere. Be more like Polites and Greet The World with open arms. Not everything is black and white. Tik Tok built the Epic Fandom up and you hold all the power.

Stay kind and great the world the world with open arms.

Yours Sincerely,

Melody

They/Them

Ps: If you send me hate and twist my words be warned I have friends as well. One particular friend was there when a lot of my Cyberbullying truama happened and is aware why this has triggered me so badly and caused an episode.

Attack you will be blocked. I'll also remove reblogs.

Attack and you will be reported.

You don't scare me.

Be nice Epic Fandom and don't become The Monster. I'm willing to have civil conversations but that's it.

[enixamyram]

Okay, I don't know how many people here listens to Epic The Musical about Odysseus. (Fantastic songs, can't stop listening to them myself.)

But I'm kind of flabbergasted by the TikTok videos I keep seeing where people are more pissed about Eurylochus opening the bag than Odysseus sacrificing six men???

One was admittedly a really stupid move and Eurylochus should be held accountable even if it was an accident but Odysseus literally picked six people to die without them even knowing. Like, if we're gonna compare situations then Eurylochus' mistake is better matched with Odysseus telling the Cyclops his name (another stupid mistake). Why are people comparing a dumb mistake with literal murder??? And why are people saying Odysseus is the better choice in it?!?!

Like, am I the crazy on here???

[fluffielox]

in the deepest ocean. the bottom of the sea. your eyes. they turn me 🐠

[gilgil-machine]

Like seriously, I'm so tired of people hating on Gil (even though sometimes it's quite justified and sometimes I hate him too) but also not accepting him outside fsn trilogy or treating him like completely different entity or treating his character development like something bad or saying that it was made just for profit. And yeah, sure, the last bit is technically true, because of his character popularity Nasu decided to give him a backstory, give him some depth and meaning instead of just leaving him the way he was, a shallow villain from eroge game, so why treating this development like it's a bad thing?

[jeanjaquesrousseou]

The body is wasting too many resources in trying to get oxygen to those cells who were born further from the veins. I propose cutting on spending for the circulatory system, so that those in need work for a better place in the body and to get rid of all those lazy cells who take from working cells who got to where they are by moving contrary to what the left might say.

[kreekx]

After I watched Epic: the musical I was like: "OMG I HATE TELEMACHUS/ANTINOUS!!"

And now I've seen some edits on my fyp AND I WANT TO KMS WHY DO I ACTUALLY LOVE IT I HATE MYSELF I swear when I saw one edit I felt how my heart sank. (probably out of despair atp) toxic love/hate yaoi save me

[saltnpepperbunny]

I went through a pretty bad breakup w a friend earlier this year. It wasn't even one of those clean situations where you can pat yourself on the back for having done nothing wrong. I think the universe just really wants me to know how badly I fucked this shit up. Breakups are extremely hard for me. Getting left behind is probably my worst trigger. It brings a pain that can kill. I don't know what I'm gonna do next time I have to go through something like this. I don't know how I can take it again. All I know is I seem incapable of building something that lasts for more than a few short years. All I know is how unwanted the world makes me feel. I think it's time to turn inward, back to introversion, focus on my comics and stories. They have always been there for me and it is impossible for something I create myself to disappoint me. Sometimes I think my fiction is the only good I'll ever be capable of creating. And otherwise...

In other news, Jorge sniped me out of the fucking sky w this song. Walking into the Vengeance Saga was like walking into an oncoming train LOL. This song is really good, def one of my two favorites in Epic.

Not Sorry For Loving You, from Epic the Musical

[koka-mi]

I wish I were normal :[

[vardir1sebebi]

Kız leyla, ayağa kalk hemen

Kalk çabuk, topla kırıklarını

Kız leyla, pusuya yat hemen

BİR DAHA VURMASINLAR KIZ ÇOCUKLARINI!!

[pigeonstab]

Epic showed up to the kotatsu party this morning lol

Also!! How’s it going? I hope you’re having a nice day <3 also I was thinking about your second college au writing again, how did Cross know Epic? Was he also in need of fostering or was he a foster parent that had Cross for a bit? :o Will they ever get to meet again?

That's such a cute coincidence TwT.

I am doing... Alright. Well not very good admittedly lol. Been flip-flopping between wanting to quit college and not, and I spend basically all my time trying to distract myself so I don't start feeling things. Otherwise I'm all good. (That cross post yesterday might've been some or maybe a lot of projection lollll)

About the college AU! Epic was indeed an older kid also in fostering, he was older than Cross by quite a bit and had more experience, he was less 'problematic' than Cross for a lot of families, since he just basically knew to keep his mouth shut where Cross was all outrage and spitting in authority's face. I like to think if Cross hadn't been kicked out of that last house he might've been able to end up living with Epic as his guardian. Since Epic was basically almost old enough to get out of the system. Just another direction Cross's life could've gone in.

If they'll ever meet again I don't know. But I think yes, if only just because it would make me happy lol.

[a-neverending-dream]

Ok. I don't usually make comments on my opinions beyond rebloging. But some things have been making me mad.

That being the number of people saying characters are being hated or disliked because of the race of people acting them. Because if you read the numerous analysis posts, you realize that is not true at all. We don't like those characters because of their actions and words within the musical. For instance, I don't like Calypso because of the implied assault and abuse within the lyrics, which are drawn from the Odyssey. It is not because she is black. It is because she is a manipulative and abusive person who has trapped Odysseus in a relationship and a place he has no hope of escaping beyond death. And you see that with how she acts when he is on the ledge, inches away from death.

[delightfulmoonsandwich]

[emdabitchass]

Run little wolf run little wolf RUN

bite little wolf bite little wolf BITE

cry little wolf cry little wolf CRY

[maro0on]

so… im trying to find like animatics of no longer you and trying to find one that was like the most accurate

cuz like in the song tiresias like tells ody the prophecy rightt and its basically hinting the next saga

most specifically these three: I see the sacrifice of man I see portrayals of betrayal And a brother's final stand

and like, i keep seeing like very inaccurate depictions

<i look at them with an open mind of course cuz they were before the sagas or like the revelation>

...but i still think they couldve done like a small research to make it more accurate or something??

… cuz i mostly see like sacrifice of man being like polites' death-- but like that wasnt even a sacrifice???

protrayals of betrayals is pretty much accurate everywhere cuz its kind of hard to get wrong

and brothers final stand IS ALSO DEPICTED AS POLITES

and ladies and gentletheys-- thats where it gets me cuz it seems like they were looking at it from a very narrow pov, but the only one who got the most accurate depiction was our lord and savior gigizetz

[willoillo]

Me: Okay so end of the month is coming up and you're just barely above making your bills so it's time to buckle down and do commissions

My scumbag brain: But what if... art trade... I wanna draw people's OCs again that sounds fun

Me: YOU ARE GETTING PAID TO DRAW PEOPLE'S OCS ALREADY WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU