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Martin Simpson and Thomm Jutz: A Wider Understanding

Martin Simpson & Thomm Jutz

BY JORDAN MAINZER

Martin Simpson & Thomm Jutz's recent collaborative album is specific in scope but infinite in potential repeatability. Both folk singer-songwriters and guitarists are endlessly curious consumers of historical songs from specific regions: for Simpson, largely music from the British Isles, and for the American but German-born Jutz, the American South. (While each has dabbled in studying and recording music from other regions, they've long honed in on England and the States.) Jutz, also a lecturer and essayist, had long been interested in a collection from English folklorist and song collector Cecil Sharp, “English Folk Songs from the Southern Appalachians," which spans 1916-1918 and was first published in 1932. The 274-song collection is chock full of ballads, hymns, nursery rhymes, and more. Jutz was particularly drawn to the songs of singer Mary Sands and folklorist/singer Jane Gentry. He wanted to do something with these songs, but what?

When longtime British folk music label Topic Records put Jutz in touch with Simpson--an artist he had long admired--they spoke on the phone and came up with an idea: In the spirit of the way in which an Englishman like Sharp ended up collecting songs from Appalachia, what if the two of them picked Sands and Gentry songs and asked various English and American folk artists to sing them over new arrangements? After all, even if the United States and England, throughout the years, have had unique histories, their folklore shares themes of class and archetypal gender struggles. So both Simpson and Jutz picked six songs and asked five artists, from their respective countries, to sing, saving one song each for themselves. The timeline from idea to planning to recording--which took place both in Nashville and England--was mere months. Nothing But Green Willow: The Songs of Mary Sands and Jane Gentry, released last fall on Topic, was born.

Indeed, Nothing But Green Willow is an inspired collection, pairing some of the world's finest folk interpreters, singers, and instrumentalists, with Simpson and Jutz's terrific dual guitar arrangements. Some, like Emily Portman, Angeline Morrison, and Fay Hield, who sing on "Far Annie", "The Suffolk Miracle", and "I Whipped My Horse", respectively, approach folk music in their own careers from the same analytical perspective as Jutz and Simpson, and so they were natural fits. Jutz himself emphasizes the beatific nature of a song like "Awake! Awake!", while country singer Tammy Rogers and actress/singer/model/former neonatal nurse (!) Odessa Settles pry at the innate weariness of "Married and Single Life" and "Pretty Saro". Other tunes are more upbeat, from Simpson's spritely guitar workout on "The Wagoner's Lad" to Tim O'Brien's fiddle jaunt on "Edwin in the Lowlands Low" and Sierra Hull & Justin Moses' deft tempo exercises on "Geordie". My favorite songs are the ones on which Simpson and Jutz's interplay even further plays off of the other featured artists, whether that's Cara Dillon's quintessential Irish twang on on "Come All You Fair and Tender Ladies" or Dale Ann Bradley & Tim Stafford's blaring vocal harmonies on "Jacob's Ladder".

Best of all, and what I gleaned most from listening to Nothing But Green Willow and a phone conversation with Jutz late last summer, is that the record was, truly, a labor of love. "It was nice to sit down and make music without thinking of who we had to please," Jutz said, "or how to craft a narrative around the project." As Jutz is someone who is both an original songwriter and arranger and interested in the technological impact on, and cultural importance of historic recordings, Nothing But Green Willow is an album seemingly perfectly suited for his ethos. And it's also an album whose process can be used to record, rearrange, and re-contextualize songs from any era and place.

Below, read my conversation with Jutz, edited for length and clarity. We talked about his historical relationship with the Sharp collection, his and Simpson's logic in pairing singer with song, and being a folk interpreter in a world of ever-changing technology.

Since I Left You: Around when did you get the idea for Nothing But Green Willow, and when was it recorded?

Thomm Jutz: My original idea to do something with the Sharp collection existed for many years, but I didn't know how to get to it. But when I was introduced to the folks at Topic Records, they introduced me to Martin. Once Martin and I discussed the idea a little bit, it became clear how we wanted to approach it. We had about 2-3 months of warm up time before recording, and that was it. It was recorded [late summer] 2021, half of it in Nashville. Martin was in upstate New York for Richard Thompson's guitar camp, and he flew down to Nashville to record about 7 songs. We flew to England together to record the rest of the album. It came together fairly quickly.

SILY: Do you remember the first time you became familiar with the specific songs on this album?

TJ: With these specific songs, it's a little hard to answer. Some, like, “Come All You Fair and Tender Ladies” and "The Gypsy Laddie", I've known for more than half of my life because of the Carter Family, Bob Dylan, and people like that. About 10-15 years ago, I really got into the Sharp collection and got the books. When Martin and I discussed making the record and focusing only on the songs of Jane Gentry and Mary Sands, I obviously got into [their specific songs] on a much deeper level, hearing the different versions of the songs. It's been a process going on for more than 20 years in one way or another.

SILY: What do all of the featured singers on the album have in common to you? Is there something that ties them together?

TJ: Yes. They all have a deep appreciation for folk music in the true sense of the world, music that comes from the oral tradition. They all come out of that tradition, even the bluegrass [musicians] like Sierra Hull and Dale Ann Bradley. They grew up playing music by ear from people they knew. They didn't study it. Everybody who is on these records love these songs and the true roots of American folk music just as it can be found in English music. It's that love and appreciation that unites these people, but it's also their capacity to interpret them in new ways. There are certainly other ballad singers out there in England and in the United States, but Martin and I didn't want to make this a ballads record where people sang songs a capella. That's been done, and it's great, but we wanted it to approach it a little differently.

SILY: Was it your and Martin's job to pick which singer would sing which song, or did you let the singers pick?

TJ: Once Martin and I looked at all the songs Jane Gentry and Mary Sands had contributed to the Cecil Sharp collection, Martin picked his 6 favorites, and I picked my 6 favorites. I said, "Why don't I [assign] 5 singers here in the States with a song, and you do the same in England." We suggested the songs to the singers, so as to avoid, say, 3 people wanting to sing the same song, or people picking [other] songs from the over 90 songs contributed by these two ladies. We felt pretty strongly about suggesting, "Hey, why don't you do this one!" It's a little risky, but it really worked out.

SILY: What factors did you take into account when making the assignment, from the qualities of each singer's voice to other songs they've sung in the past?

TJ: Not just musical considerations--though that's certainly a part of it--but thematic considerations. In the case of Sierra Hull and Justin Moses, who come out of the bluegrass tradition, I thought it would be interesting to have them sing "Geordie", which had been previously recorded by, among other people, Norman Blake and Tony Rice, which are huge influences in the bluegrass world and had a huge influence on Sierra and Justin. It was interesting to me to see how they would interpret that song that had already been interpreted by two of their heroes. In the case of Tammy Rogers, who is from East Tennessee, she remembers talking to her grandmother, [who would go] to see the Carter Family perform in school houses and court houses. For her, ["Married and Single Life"], which the Carter Family turned into "Single Girl, Married Girl" was interesting to me because of the family connection. Taking the song "Jacob's Ladder", I wanted Dale Ann Bradley to sing that because she's profoundly influenced by the Stanley Brothers, who recorded a version of "Jacob's Ladder" that's very different than the one we have on this album. It's almost like a different song. In the case of Odessa Settles, a wonderful African American gospel singer in Nashville, I thought the lyrics to "Pretty Saro" take on such a profoundly different meaning when sung by an African American person. That was really interesting to experience that.

Martin had his own criteria to pick the British singers, but it's a little harder for me to speak to that.

SILY: Were there any instances where the picked singer was wholly unfamiliar with the original song?

TJ: Oh yes. There were definitely people here in America who weren't familiar with some of the songs or had heard completely different versions. I can't speak to that for the people in England. I think the people in England are from a more serious folk ballad singing tradition, so they were likely a little more familiar with these songs than those on the American side.

SILY: Why did you decide to release "Come All You Fair and Tender Ladies" as the first taste of the record?

TJ: Cara Dillon's vocal makes such an incredibly beautiful statement. It's traditional, but somewhat contemporary in the way she sings it. She's also a very well-known artist over there, which was part of the consideration. It's also a song that's--I hesitate to use the word "popular"--well-known in the folk tradition in England and still to this day played on the Grand Ole Opry by The Whites in a different version. It's a thematic common ground for the audience. I also thought that the guitar parts Martin and I played on that were part of what makes our collaboration as guitarists interesting. It sets the tone well for what this record is all about.

SILY: Going into the recording, how much did you and Martin work on the arrangements?

TJ: Not at all. Martin doesn't read music, so he had maybe played the melodies to these tunes in their simplest forms without chordal accompaniment. I recorded [some chords] and sent it to him. We both lived with it and didn't do anything before we started playing. The only two songs where we had a little more of an idea [what we were going to do were] "The Wagoner's Lad", because Martin was singing it on the record and had a guitar part worked out, and "The Gypsy Laddie", which I sing on and had a guitar part worked out for it. None of the songs on the record took more than 2 hours to record. It was very much spur of the moment. The singers came in, some not knowing what key they wanted to sing in. Time signatures changed. That's the beauty of it. if you have people you can just sit down with and trust them that it's going to be good, it doesn't require a lot of pre-meditation or pre-production. To me, that's the most exciting way of making and recording music.

SILY: Someone like Fay Hield comes at folk music with both a performance and academic point of view. Does anybody else on here have a similar background?

TJ: I think Emily Portman is somebody who has a very deep understanding of where this music comes from and the different possibilities of interpreting it. Fay teaches music at the University of Sheffield and is an authority. She said a lot of things during the recording session that really opened my eyes and made me think about the music slightly differently. I'm a teacher at Belmont University, so you might call me an academic, though I don't think of myself as such. But I've spent a lot of time with this music and where it comes from.

SILY: How does your unique combination of perspectives affect how you approach these tunes?

TJ: Once you know where you something comes from in terms of place--place not just being a geographical location but in all of its sociopolitical manifestations--you listen to the lyrics differently. You look at the expression of class in the lyrics. Class was such an important factor in England when these songs were originally created, although we can't put an exact date of creation on them. That sense of class was very much prevalent in Appalachia, too, albeit in a different way and political context. The more you know about these places and the people who lived there, you might not understand the music deeper, but you understand it wider and broader.

SILY: Can you tell me about your relationship to the two songs on here that feature your voice?

TJ: "Awake! Awake!" is a song I didn't know before I got into this collection. It wasn't one I had originally selected for this album, and Martin neither, but as I explored, I was captivated by the beauty of the melody. I suggested to Martin when he got to Nashville that we shouldn't leave it out. He was on board, and we came up with an arrangement really quickly. It's a gorgeous lyric. It turns out the title of the album is part of the lyrics to that song. "Gypsy Laddie", or "Gypsy Davy", as a lot of people know it, is a song I've always loved. The opening line of that song--it's a little different in this version--but a lot of the versions I'm familiar with start with, "Gypsy Davy came through the woods, sang so sweet and gaily, made the woods around him ring and captured the heart of a lady." It's one of the most beautiful opening verses of any songs I've ever known. It's obviously not just about a gypsy riding through the woods singing, it's about an archetype, the creator, a sorcerer who can charm not just people but nature with their music. It's such a beautiful representation of making music. That song has always been really geared to me, and it's also a very open-ended song. At the end of the song, we don't know whether the lady is dead, sleeping, happy, or sad. She runs away from her children and husband and with this Gypsy Davy character. That's the beauty of those old songs. They're not so linear. There's a lot of room for interpretation.

SILY: How did the two of you come up with the track sequencing?

TJ: Honestly, I don't think I'm good at sequencing records, but sometimes I have to do it. In this case, it was Martin and me trying to figure out how to not have songs in the same key and tempo back to back. It was more musical than thematic considerations.

SILY: What's the story behind the album art?

TJ: The album art is by the former owner of Topic Records who sold the company but is still very much a part of the Topic family and has become a well-respected painter. He had this painting of this willow tree, so once we came up with the title, the folks at Topic suggested it. I always think it's nice to have original art as part of the musical project.

SILY: Are you planning on playing any of these songs live?

TJ: If the right circumstances come up for me and Martin to play together! It would be very difficult to tour this record because there are so many people involved, but I'd certainly consider playing "Awake! Awake!" and "The Gypsy Laddie" in some of my solo shows.

SILY: In the folk tradition, it shouldn't really matter that you might not be the singer on a specific recording when playing that same arrangement live, but do you think it would do a disservice to the vocalists?

TJ: I don't think so. I think it would add a different character or shade or meaning.

SILY: Ostensibly, you could play all of these songs.

TJ: I guess we could, yes. I don't know if the opportunity is going to come up for us to tour in a way that makes sense, since we're living in different parts of the world, but I'd be interested in pursuing it.

SILY: Do you tend to actively seek out folk songs you're not familiar with or you've never heard before?

TJ: It depends. In the context of American music from the South, yes, because I'm really interested in it. But I'm not a folk song collector or scholar in the sense I'm trying to collect folk songs from, say, a certain part of Mexico. I'm limited in scope.

SILY: On paper, due to technology, this seems like a perfect time for folk music to thrive, because there's so much more at our disposal, so much more quickly. What it is like to be a "scholar" of folk music in this day and age?

TJ: Research, whether listening to music or reading about music, has gotten so much easier because things are so much more accessible. You can look up a word in the dictionary really quickly, but 30 years ago, you had to dig into it, and in the process of finding one word, you find 10 others that are really interesting. Maybe we're missing out on that a little bit. Overall, I feel that we're all very oversaturated musically in the way music is made and consumed. It's not something I'm very interested in. I'm so unplugged from the mainstream that I shouldn't really speak to it. But in terms of accessibility to information about music, I think it's a good thing that so many things are easily available to people. If somebody is interested in the Carter Family, they don't have to go to a store and dig through. At the end of the day, though, if people do that, it might be a good thing.

SILY: It reminds me of what you said about having a wide versus a deep appreciation for music. It's easier these days to have a wider appreciation, but to have a deeper appreciation, you still have to go through the old routes, the exploratory nature of researching one thing and finding relevant tangents.

TJ: Right. Just because you can listen to music widely doesn't mean that you understand it deeply. You still have to do the work as a listener to develop an understanding of the people who made the music and when those songs were recorded. To me, that's endlessly fascinating, so the more information I can get about it, the better.

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philipkindreddickhead · 9 months ago

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endlich-allein · 5 months ago

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Thank you, the crew, without whom the magic of Rammstein would be impossible. As well as being great professionals who want to give their all, they are men and women with a huge heart, who are extremely kind and generous. Thank you to Tom, Paulo, Thomas and Hells Kitchens Catering, Michael, Katarina, Florian, Martin, Emily, Nando, Sascha, Marcin, Lutz, Simone, Leo, Joe, Wim, Dan, Tariq, Moses, Lino, Rossi, Xana, Toni, Nicolai and all the FFPFX crew, Robert, Carly, Marcus, Paul, Sven, Eric, Christoph, Andi, Gert, Simon, Jason, Chris, Jakub, Aaron, Lennert, Falk, Andreas, Aran, Kristof, Tim and all those I'm forgetting. Thank you also to the volunteers, medics and security guards present in the stadiums ❤️

#thank you ❤️#rammstein crew #rammstein #rammstein 2024

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girlactionfigure · 2 months ago

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kittenfangirl20 · 5 months ago

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With that said, I don’t like this version of God either and I will explain why and how I imagine him looking and acting. Though I do like the idea of four eyes floating around his head like that. My version of Hazbin Hotel God looks like a slightly older version of Adam, but he still has the four eyes floating around his head as well as two eyes on his face. Why I imagine him looking so much like Adam is because I am going with how Adam was made in God’s image. His attitude is he is the type that he only speaks when he has something important to say so he is usually the quiet type. He can be wrathful, but he has to be pushed to that point like how Earth was during the time of Noah, the whole Moses story, and being forced to watch Yeshua/Jesus die very painfully. He is more open to Charlie’s idea, but have Charlie realize that some Sinners don’t want to be saved and some deserved to be cut down by Adam. He is mostly caring especially towards Adam (who he sees as one of his sons) and Yeshua/Jesus (his actual son that he was created from his very being before he had him put into Mary so Yeshua/Jesus could experience a human life. He definitely wouldn’t gleefully tell Emily how she was wrong to the point she was upset. I think this fan image of God looks too much like one of the angels when humans were made to look more like God according to everything I have read.

#hazbin hotel #my opinion

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gothamcitycentral · 10 months ago

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Judging by everything we know, in Hazbin Hotel’s lore there was no War In Heaven started by Lucifer that resulted in his damnation. Makes sense, the fruit of knowledge is certainly more iconic and it fits the story and characters more for that event to be what sent Lucifer (and Lilith) to Hell.

But y’know that’s a pretty big thing that happened, and it makes me interested if there will be some equivalent in the show, even if not carried out by Lucifer.

With that idea, it’s interesting that there’s two characters currently with a lot of parallels with Lucifer sitting in Heaven

Emily being the ‘second Lucifer’ is pretty blatant with:

“If you start to question, you could end up like Lucifer.”

“Fallen.”

There’s also the idea that Emily is literally Lucifer’s replacement. That with his fall, Emily eventually came into being to fulfill his role in Heaven. Her explicit purpose is to “keep [Heaven’s people] happy and joyful,” an entertainer. Which is very much what Lucifer is, not only from his theatrics but his design being a clown that has dressed himself as the ringmaster. His introduction during his days in heaven even has him creating confetti and fireworks. This certainly explains why there’s this very young seraphim, who for all intents and purposes seems to be very close to Charlie’s age.

Meanwhile, Lucifer’s fall (the first fall) is directly connected to him taking the form of a snake. Then, Sir Pentious, the snake demon, is the first to rise. The show also emphasizes Sir Pentious out of all characters when Charlie and Lucifer are struggling to connect, showing him tearing up multiple times and commenting “that was sssweet” when they do accept each other (possibly due to his own implied desire for a family). They are also both creators, Lucifer having “fantastical ideas for creation” and being implied to have brought Keekee, Razzle, and Dazzle to life and Sir Pentious being a steampunk inventor who possibly created his own minions.

They also both have their own set up to be leaders. Emily is established to be very close to the people of Heaven, and therefore someone many of them would follow. The show also emphasizes just how darn similar Emily and Charlie are, so it’s not hard to imagine Emily having her own “Ready for This” moment. Meanwhile we’ve seen Sir Pentious grow into a capable leader with his role in the resistance against the Exorcists.

Additionally (while this is not a part of every reading of course) one of Lucifer’s reasons for rebellion was which souls were allowed into Heaven. That he would “redeem all mankind, that one soul shall not be lost” (Moses 4:1), this being rejected because it would destroy the agency of mankind. What exactly redeeming all of mankind means is debated, but this concept is ripe for reinterpretation to be the cause of Emily or Sir Pentious starting the War in Heaven.

Frankly, I could see the show doing this with both of them. Emily starting the rebellion but this action being what causes her to fall, with Sir Pentious carrying on leading the rebellion following her departure. This is especially relevant given how in the war itself Lucifer takes on the form of a dragon, which fits in with Pentious’ own reptilian appearance (perhaps his ascension has come with a ‘higher form�� like Charlie has? One more draconic?).

#hazbin hotel #emily hazbin hotel #sir pentious #txt

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flaminghotjareau · 8 months ago

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i’m at the doyle arc in my rewatch and i would totally watch a spin-off based on the jtf-12 team, like just that phone conversation between emily, tsia and clyde at whatever park in dc was enough to convince me of their team dynamic, also i love tsia i wish she had been in the show for longer

#thoughts #emily prentiss #tsia mosely #clyde easter #jeremy wolff #sean mcallister #ian doyle #jtf-12 #criminal minds

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More of the Tsia & Emily relationship would be so interesting especially because Tsia’s fiancée betrayed them both, so there could be complicated feelings there. It would also make Emily’s return angstier for Piper, who might feel Emily was off romancing Tsia while the BAU grieved her.

I think piper been knew that emily has a thing for tsia, like there's definitely some kind of history there. like she is straight up disappointed when she finds out tsia and jeremy are engaged. I also haven't really decided how piper's going to react to emily being alive. she's very aware that everyone made the best choice they could in a difficult situation, but that doesn't help how angry she is, so it kind of turns inward (because that's what happens when anger doesn't have an outlet). there's also the fact that i don't know enough about tsia so figuring out that dynamic is gonna be hard.

#hope this makes sense #oc: dr piper bishop #criminal minds #tsia mosely #jeremy wolff #emily prentiss

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You're a dinosaur 🦕 baby in the museum of my broken hearted 💔 past.

I haven't done much in the way of deciphering Emily's social media posts lately, but this one's GIANT, so hold onto your hats (Puns intended)

Just as the show has been leaving us hints about Beth's return, so has Emily in her projects, music, and social media posts.

I've written about many of them over the years, this one is no different, and it's no coincidence...

Most of you will know about Emily's new merch beanie with the broken-hearted dinosaur 🦕

It's inspired by her song Avett Brothers. Here is a snippet of the relevant lyrics from the song.

The broken-hearted dinosaur 🦕 and the museum are without question links to Beth's return, so let's look at how...

In season 5, Daryl and Carol jump into a car to go find Beth.

That car eventually helps Daryl find her.

That car is also connected to the episode Consumed, in which Daryl and Carol (after being recently reunited in 501) find a clue to Beth's whereabouts and go searching for her.

And It's by that car they get the initial clue that helps them to find Beth (Daryl sees the car with the white cross)

I'm sure you all remember that Carol plays a pivotal role in getting that car to work by charging the battery.

That car from back in season 5 has a very specific symbol on the keyring 🦕

Without that dinosaur keyring and Carol charging the battery, Daryl would never have found Beth.

The upcoming Book of Carol seemingly has many repeating themes from around the era of Consumed.

We will see a Daryl/Carol reunion, like we saw in 501.

The two will again be separated from the rest of their family like they were in Consumed (thanks in large part to the dinosaur 🦕 and the clue they receive)

The character Isabelle (Beth proxy) will be returning in season 2.

And, we know the storyline will bring them to a museum - The Louvre.

The broken-hearted dinosaur 🦕 is symbolic of a lost ancient giant love that is long in the past, thought to be extinct.

What's kept in museums? The past... they hold pieces of history.

In this case, as Emily puts it, a dinosour, aka ancient love ❤️

Emily knows. She's always known...

The show has more recently given us links to Beth and museums as well.

We saw it hinted at in Daryl Dixon season 1, especially in the credits with the self-portrait of Marie Gabrielle-Carpet, who lived in a museum...the Louvre, with her love.

Isabelle was a very obvious Beth proxy in DD1, and this self-portrait of Marie in the opening credits is shown along with the name of the actess who plays Isabelle. Linking the Museum to Isabelle and by proxy to Beth.

Genet in DD1 also mentions working in a museum to Codron when she realises Codron has switched sides and betrayed her by not killing Isabelle (Beth) and Laurent and stopping them from getting to the Nest (a representation of the pyramid/Louvre)

Thorne in TOWL episode one, a repeat of Dawn and Genet in many ways, also mentions a museum to Rick.

She tell Rick that the girl they saved, lived in a museum. The dead overran the museum, but the girl was saved by hiding in a giant grasshopper. That girl lost her family and had no one.

The giant grasshopper symbolism is linked here to a museum - linking it to Beth (also grasshoppers are Greene).

In this story, the girl that lost her family survived inside the museum, inside the (green) grasshopper.

Just like the key ring dinosaur in season 5. The dinosaur 🦕 museum in The Book of Carol could very well lead to a clue about Beth and a long lost love ❤️.

Now, If you read my last post, i mention the many links to the biblical story of Moses that were seen in TOWL episode 2. Well the "Giant" and "Grasshopper" symbolism is another link to the story of Moses, when he is leading his people into the promised land.

The verse they are pulling from in the story Thorne tells is in Numbers 13.33

There we saw the giants and we were like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight.”

When Moses leads his people to the outskirts of the promised land, they send scouts ahead, to go into the land before entering it. The above verse is what the scouts report back.

They saw Giants in the land and they seemed liked grasshoppers because they were so small in comparison.

I've written before how the Nest (pyramid shaped) in Daryl Dixon season 1 and the Louvre are both representations of the promised land in the story of Moses.

I also wrote about a promotion for The book of Carol x that gave her the symbolism of Balaam's donkey. (another link to the promised land)

And now we have this "Giant", "Grasshopper" and Museum symbolism linked to a museum to add to it all.

Overall, these symbols represent repeating history, and history is a dinosaur museum...Emily gave us a "key" to unlock the symbolism.

The Wolf comes home through repeating the past and a clue to her return is linked to a dinosaur 🦕 and museums and love, so the book of Carol is going to be very interesting, especially as we know that wolf 🐺 = Louvre.

Could the dinosaurs 🦕 broken heart 💔 be mended ❤️ by going back in time...to a museum of the broken-hearted past?

With (the book of) Carol holding the key? 🔑 🦕

The beginning is the end

🦕💔🦕💔♾️ 💔🦕💔🦕

#team delusional #team defiance #team beth lives #bethyl #beth greene #beth is alive #beth is coming #beth greene lives #td #beth x daryl #emily kinney

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