#Elizabeth Seymour

[catherinesboleyn]

Maisie Richardson-Sellers as Elizabeth Seymour

Wolf Hall 2.03

[edwardseymour]

the fact that elizabeth is lady ughtred just hits for me. the post-apocalyptic anachronism of an anglo-saxon name at the tudor court, borne by a seymour (upstarts, according to some). katy cubitt has talked about wulfstan’s ‘sermon of the wolf to the english’ — “this world is in haste and the end approaches” — “there was a strong feeling […] that the millennium did indeed mark the beginning of the end”. as the anglo-saxons were left with the cultural remnants of the roman empire, so were the tudors with the dissolution of monasteries in the wake of the rejection of the pope’s authority; what do you do when the old world has died and you’re left to rebuild from the ruins? for the anglo-saxons, apocalyptic angst was inevitable, for elizabeth seymour it was requesting the lands of dissolved houses (including ones not yet torn down, for profit) wearing jewels depicting lot’s fleeing the destruction of sodom.

[sleepy-stories]

Only add Jane’s sister Elizabeth to your six the musical but it’s the siblings because both Edward and Thomas Seymour are evil disgusting human beings who do not deserve to be designed.

[hellomadamebutterfly]

"I am Mistress Cromwell, not some servant"

You tell em Bess!!

[cosmic-walkers]

Anyways, seeing Thomas navigate life with the Seymours vs the Boleyn's is very interesting, especially the Seymour sisters. By all accounts, and even admitted from Thomas' mouth, he knew the Boleyn's not only used him, but saw him only as a lowly born man, and sometimes less than that. He was something they could bend, manipulate, and use to their own advantage without care for what happened to them. If he had any kinship with one, it was Anne, but that was very shaky at best and we saw that. From his own mouth, he knew that Mary was using him, and we saw it - to the point where his own life could've been in danger.

The point is, I think it's going to be interesting seeing him interact with the Seymour family; a family that genuinely respects him and sees him as a person. A family that isn't trying to use them for their own gain.

Now don't get me wrong there is certainly gain in it for them, and his influence + their proximity to the Cromwell family is something that they each capitalize off of. There is certainly an equal partnership between the Seymours and Cromwells - they are an alliance and as terrible and strange as the brothers are in the future, there is an actual respect for him.

It's just, the contrast between the seymour siblings (bros and sisters) and the boleyn siblings (bro and sisters) and their relationship to thomas. the boleyn's didn't think of him as much as a person, which is something he alludes to. they didn't care to put his life in danger for their own gain, which is something he mentions when he speaks about Mary, and her coming on to him. George openly threatens him for being around his sisters. He knew his position in their eyes reliant on what he could do for them, but there is still this idea that they viewed him as an inferior.

Whereas, with the Seymours, it's as if they're in this boat together. And the Seymour sisters actually respect him, and see him as a human being. Both Bess and Jane; and I feel being so closely connected to this royal family and being within proximity of people who actually see him as a person will be interesting. And it gets complicated with Jane, who loved him, who saw him as a person, and that love was genuine (at least, in my train of thought). And of course if you read the books, he and Bess were mutually attracted to each other.

Thomas is so used to being manipulated, used and tossed around by these royal/noble families he interacts with. But the Seymours, especially the sisters are different. They don't view him as something that can be used, manipulated, and discarded. They actually view him as part of their family and are grateful to him.

I should also end this by saying that these are 1000% my opinions, my personal opinions so I don't expect everyone to agree! Just putting it out there.

[janesemel]

“The brisk young widow comes to court, to help the family in their campaign. He’d thought they called her Lizzie, this young woman, but it seems that was just her husband’s name for her, and to her family she’s Bess. He is glad, though he doesn’t know why. It is unreasonable of him to think other women shouldn’t have his wife’s name. Bess is no great beauty, and darker than her sister, but she has a confident vivacity that compels the eye.

‘Be kind to Jane, Master Secretary,’ Bess says. ‘She is not proud, as some people think. They wonder why she doesn’t speak to them, but it’s only because she can’t think what to say.’

‘But she will speak to me.’

‘She will listen.’

‘An attractive quality in women.’

‘An attractive quality in anyone. Wouldn’t you say? Though Jane above all women looks to men to tell her what she should do.’

‘Then does she do it?’

‘Not necessarily.’ She laughs. Her fingertips brush the back of his hand. ‘Come. She is ready for you.”

- Wolf Hall

[periodcostumefantasylover]

Perioddrama Appreciation Week

Day 1: Favorite Tv Show: The Tudors

[marthajefferson]

Jane Seymour arriving at the opening of the Emanuel shop at Beauchamp Place, London, dressed as the Wicked Lady (1987)

[dailytudors]

TUDOR WEEK 2024

It is baaaaack by popular demand!. We are hosting Tudor Week 2024. This is going to be hosted from Monday the 14th of October to Sunday the 20th of October.

The week will go as follows:

Day 1 - Monday, 14th of October:  Your Favourite Tudor (members of the family that were born Tudors). Day 2 - Tuesday, 15th of October: Favourite Tudor contemporary quote about or said by the Tudor family. Day 3 - Wednesday, 16th of October: Best Tudor What If? Day 4 - Thursday, 17th of October: Fancast Your Favourite Tudor Family Member. Day 5 - Friday, 18th of October: Favourite Tudor Iconography (e.g. Tudor Rose, Anne Boleyn's falcon, Jane Seymour's Phoenix). Day 6 - Saturday, 19th of October: Favourite Tudor Couple (could include unmarried couples, e.g., Elizabeth I and Robert Dudley). Day 7 - Sunday, 20th of October: Favourite Tudor-related location.

This can cover all events and media that a Tudor family member is present, so from Owen Tudor to Elizabeth Tudor, and may include spouses and acknowledged children of direct members of the Tudor family (if unsure who we cover please check our Family page). We have attempted to make it as broad as possible and no pressure if you are late with some of the days, we will still reblog.

Previous Years: 2021, 2022, 2023

Be sure to tag your posts TudorWeek2024 and DailyTudors, looking forward to seeing your posts!

The Team at DailyTudors

[isabelleneville]

♕ @dailytudors: TUDOR WEEK 2024 ♕

Day Seven: Favourite Tudor-related Location >> 2/3 - SUDELEY CASTLE After the battle of Bosworth the property was gifted to Henry VII's uncle Jasper Tudor. Sudeley Castle was later granted to Thomas Seymour on his ascension as Baron Sudeley during the reign of Edward VI, Thomas married the late King's widow Catherine Parr and it was to be her last home where her daughter was born. Catherine died of childbirth complications while residing at the castle and was later buried in the castle's church and is the only English Queen to be buried at a private residence. Her stepdaughter Elizabeth I is said to have celebrated the defeat of the Spanish Armada at the castle.

[kyleetryme]

do Hamilton and six crossover pls pls pls

btw hamiltons henry!

[flastar13]

I think there is always a problem with Anne Baleyn's locker room in almost any production. It is always the worst dressed among the six queens. Just look at The Six Wives of Henry VIII of 1970

The other wives wear appropriate dresses to the time that is set the series, Catalina de Aragon wears a Spanish fashion dress from the beginning of the 16th century, and Jane Seymour wears a modest green dress as a company lady according to 1636. What do you wear Anne? A series of high fantasy or Elizabethan dresses.

I give a pass to this dress, not only because it is pretty but because Anne is wearing it in a dysphrase dance.

But what about the rest of dresses? Anne became popular in the English court for her great ingenuity and glamorous French style. Henry the height of gifts during and his commitment, and the Baleyn were not poor. Why is your clothes so pesticary? Let's compare with Jane Seymour, who has a similar story. To start the Seymour were much less prosperous than the Baleyn, Jane's father, John Seymour was appointed gentleman on the battlefield by Enrique VII for his services against the rebels of Cornwall in Blackheath on June 17, 1497. Then he was appointed Caballero Banneret in 1513 after the battle of the Spurs. But outside those honors, the family had not risen much. Thomas Baleyn instead had served Enrique VII and had been in the entourage of Margarita Tudor when she went to Scotland. He was appointed Biscount for his own merit in 1525, even before Ana had met Enrique VIII. He was also heir to Ormond County thanks to his mother. Elizabeth Baleyn of single Howard, was the sister of the Duke of Norfolk. With only that information, it shows that the Baleyn were also much richer than the Seymour, apart from having a major noble status, which should be reflected in the clothes they wear.

If we see in the same adaptation, in your home Wolf Hall Jane uses a historically precise country attire, which shows the simplicity and modesty of Jane but also that the Seymour are not so rich to allow them to use the whole day silk but they are still noble to be made of good quality and dyed wool.

His second outfit, when he attends the Court, is more fashionable and is elegant, but it is still simple and modest, reflecting Jane's personal tastes and that his family being low nobility, but the sumptuous laws, he is not going to Cover of jewelry.

Once he became a queen, Jane's dress improves, she is still pale but is very adorned with jewelry, wears an elaborate two waters unlike the French headdress of her predecessor.

The costume designers managed to tell the story of the most boring of Henry VIII's wives, through her clothes. Showing her evolution from the spinster daughter of an unimportant knight, to a lady-in-waiting courted by the king to the queen of England; wonderfully, with beautiful designs that look like they're from the Tudor era. Why can't they do the same with Anne?

The worst thing is that this is repeated constantly, in one of the most recent series based on the reign of Henry VIII, with a wardrobe that is almost exact to the historical period in which the events take place, "Wolf Hall". Okay, the series is from Cromwell's perspective, so they're not going to show us Anne's life before she got mixed up with the secretary's. Anne is already the future wife of the king when she appears. But when she is queen, her clothes only change color; there are no more jewels, no better fabrics, no embroidery and her hood is horrible. Just compare her pink dress that according to her designers is that of "The daughter of a simple gentleman" vs her clothes as queen when she can use better dyes.

They are practically the same, I know that Anne is at that time Henry's girlfriend, but why is her clothing so simple even when she is the queen of England? There are no other jewels on her neckline, she wears no necklaces other than a pearl choker. Why are her dresses not made of silk, brocade and damask, with embroidery? This problem does not exist with Jane Seymour

Her dresses as a lady-in-waiting, reflect her reserved, simple and modest nature. Her clothes and hood are decorated with simple lace and embroidery, not with jewels unlike other noble ladies. The colors are monotonous but with some color inside, almost saying that the lady may look bland on the outside but on the inside she is a force to be reckoned with. She seems to be the spinster daughter of an unimportant family at the moment.

When Henry visits Wolf Hall, Jane wears a dress that is too simple for a visit from a king, but it gives a good idea of ​​what a lesser noblewoman would wear in her home.

As queen, Jane's clothes become more luxurious; more sumptuous fabrics, lavish jewelry and elaborate English headdresses. Rich but conservative, suitable for Queen Jane's character as peacemaker in the English court.

Is it very difficult to do the same with Anne Boleyn? Even in other productions, such as The Other Boleyn Girl, which try to narrate the rise in status and evolution of Anne Boleyn, they repeat the same mistake: the Queen of England continues to dress like a knight's daughter! It's even worse than in Wolf Hall, where at least Anne uses dyes reserved for royalty in The Other Boleyn, she uses the same color palette throughout the film.

There is no big change in her way of dressing, wait there is. Anne stopped wearing horrible dresses that don't look like they were from the Tudor period in England, like that blue dress with a circle print that looks more Italian and the "Cranach" suit. Seriously, the designers forgot that if the Boleyn girls had foreign influence in their clothing, it was French because they both served as ladies-in-waiting in France, not Italy or Germany. Honestly, the only dress in my grade is Anne's green dress.

This is the look of the woman who became a star at the English court. The fabric is green silk or satin, her French hood looks like a French hood and not a Russian tiara. She wears the iconic gold B necklace. It is elegant, sumptuous and French, the look of a Viscount's daughter. The problem is that by attracting Henry's attention, Anne's clothes do not continue to improve, she does not try to look like the real Queen of England, she continues to dress like a simple noblewoman. Only when she is tried and executed, the designers give her clothes that royalty would wear.

The only adaptation based on the life of Anne Boleyn that manages to narrate the evolution of the character through her clothes is Anne of The Thousand Days. Sure, there are some questionable fabric choices, Russian tiaras, lace-up closures in the back, and the belief that Anne only had the pearl necklace with the gold B. But the designs are so pretty that you don't care.

We are introduced to Anne at court dancing with Henry Percy, she wears a beautiful light green damask dress, a gold choker and a French hood. Her look is simple but elegant and fashionable, fitting for the daughter of a notable noble family.

It's no wonder Henry is drawn to her.

At home at Hever Castle, Anne wears a yellow dress, the design is simpler than the one worn at the court ball; the sleeves are wrist-length and there are no jewels at the neckline. But it's made of satin with embroidery, still an expensive but more casual dress. Befitting someone of Anne's social standing, she is not a princess by birth like Catherine of Aragon, but her family is of higher status than Jane Seymour's, the Boleyn girl's clothes are always going to be better at court and in her home than the pale Seymour girl's clothes.

Back at court, now in the king's favour, Anne wears a more elaborate dress and headdress, accessorising with a gold brooch and a jewelled girdle. All gifts from Henry VIII.

She later wears this to dinner with the king, a dress of beautiful blue velvet with gold embroidery. Her hair is loose and decorated with jewels.

As queen she wears a dress of silver and gold brocade. And at a dance a white dress with silver embroidery and pearls and diamonds sewn into the bodice.

She maintains her queenly appearance even when judged, but the colors are somber.

At her execution, her clothing is devoid of ornamentation, simple and dark, very different from the historical Anne who died looking like a queen. But it is understood that she has been stripped of all her power and influence.

This is how Anne's journey should be told, as she rises, her clothes get better. If I were in charge of Anne's wardrobe, I would have her wear designs similar to those in Wolf Hall and the green dress from The Other Boleyn Girl. At home and as casual wear, her clothes would be similar to the yellow dress from Anne of The Thousand Days. Once she starts being courted by Henry, she would continue to enrich her clothes until she reached her highest point as queen. Basically like Jane Seymour but prettier and French style.

[edwardseymour]

thinking thoughts about elizabeth seymour losing multiple siblings young to sweating sickness, getting widowed at a young age, seeing the deaths of her father, her older sister, her father-in-law, her brothers, her mother, and then losing her second husband to sweating sickness... thinking about elizabeth being born in the south, going north, and eventually going home and being buried in the south again...

[my-queen-jane]

My Lady Jane as Reductress Headlines

[soulrestinginstpetersburg]

Anne Boleyn's prayer book

[arty-e]

Haven’t drawn six the kids in a hot minute but have this silly thing