#East Timor genocide
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dougielombax · 5 months ago
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Now.
Let’s make something quite clear.
Just for anyone who hasn’t gotten the message.
No.
You CANNOT compare the deliberate genocide and mass displacement of a people and destruction of their nation and identity to a natural process of change!
Nor is it alike to a culling of the weak through natural selection or evolution or anything like that.
And it certainly isn’t comparable to the changing of seasons or the clearance of old forests or whatever else they may say.
Nor is it akin to a cleansing or redeeming of the land or environment on which it takes place!
Ethnic “cleansing” is nothing of the kind.
It’s barbaric.
(BuT tHEy mAdE tHe DEseRt bLoOm¡)
Get in the bin with that reactionary SHITE!
It is in no way defensible or justifiable.
It is not REMOTELY natural!
Nor is it in any way inevitable!
And it sure as shit isn’t necessary either!
In ANY circumstance!
Anyone who denies this (and/or the occurrence of such atrocities) or tries to handwave or defend it is lying to you, and they KNOW they’re lying.
And there is no other defence for such atrocities outside of this thinking either.
Nobody “deserves” to be subject to a genocide. Whether real or hypothetically.
Whether it’s one that’s actively happening or one that has already happened.
Not now, not then, not ever.
Anyone who tells you otherwise is at best dangerously misinformed, perhaps also lying to you and at worst is already guilty!
Be rid of that shite!
Starting yesterday!
If you can’t or won’t do that, then the only thing you can do is die in ignorance and stupidity. And you will be met with ridicule by your descendants for it.
The same is true for denying that such genocides and atrocities ever happened’
There is NO defence for that shite either!
All that does is bury established history and indisputable facts and provide justification for further tyranny in turn!
Which is also wrong! But that should go without saying!
End this shit! Be better!
Starting yesterday!
I’ll include a few links to articles elaborating on this for clarity.
Also feel free to donate to Operation Broken Silence to help the people in Sudan.
Feel free to reblog this.
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sky-daddy-hates-me · 8 months ago
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A country that condemns Israel for its genocide is doing this to the indigenous people of the land its colonising.
Please, don't think that being against another genocide absolves them of their own human rights violations.
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justletmeon12 · 1 year ago
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By the way, I'm mostly still on Twitter for some reason (I guess I'm emotionally attached to that trashfire), so I haven't posted anything here yet, but to summarize about two hours of frenetic celebration last night:
HENRY KISSINGER IS FUCKING DEAD.
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noddytheornithopod · 9 months ago
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bobzillashiftwoods · 6 months ago
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mark-mpls · 10 months ago
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John Pilger
Sad to learn of the recent death of the Australian-born journalist John Pilger. He was a fearless and highly-awarded documenter of atrocities in the late 20th century, including the Australian treatment of Aboriginals, the war against Vietnam, the genocide in Cambodia, the brutal Indonesian invasion of East Timor, the plight of Palestinians, the Northern Ireland Troubles, and more recently his advocacy for Julian Assange and the vital importance of a free and independent press.
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jackoshadows · 2 years ago
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Since Jimmy Carter is in hospice care and no doubt we will soon hear all the praise for him as a good man, just a little reminder that the Carter administration provided continued military assistance and equipment to the Indonesian regime to perpetuate the East Timor genocide.
East Timor genocide
East Timor: Acceptable Slaughters
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girlactionfigure · 10 months ago
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HERE is the list of the 134 countries that are NOT supporting South Africa's 🇿🇦 claims of genocide against Israel 🇮🇱:
🇦🇩 Andorra 
🇦🇴 Angola 
🇦🇬 Antigua and Barbuda 
🇦🇷 Argentina 
🇦🇲 Armenia 
🇦🇺 Australia 
🇦🇹 Austria 
🇧🇸 Bahamas 
🇧🇧 Barbados 
🇧🇾 Belarus 
🇧🇿 Belize 
🇧🇹 Bhutan 
🇧🇦 Bosnia and Herzegovina 
🇧🇼 Botswana 
🇧🇬 Bulgaria 
🇧🇮 Burundi 
🇨🇻 Cabo Verde 
🇰🇭 Cambodia 
🇨🇦 Canada 
🇨🇫 Central African Republic 
🇨🇱 Chile 
🇨🇳 China 
🇰🇲 Comoros 
🇨🇬 Congo 
🇨🇷 Costa Rica 
🇭🇷 Croatia 
🇨🇺 Cuba 
🇨🇾 Cyprus 
🇨🇿 Czech Republic 
🇨🇩 Democratic Republic of the Congo 
🇩🇰 Denmark 
🇩🇲 Dominica 
🇩🇴 Dominican Republic 
🇹🇱 East Timor (Timor-Leste) 
🇪🇨 Ecuador 
🇸🇻 El Salvador 
🇬🇶 Equatorial Guinea 
🇪🇷 Eritrea 
🇪🇪 Estonia 
🇸🇿 Eswatini 
🇪🇹 Ethiopia 
🇫🇯 Fiji 
🇫🇮 Finland 
🇫🇷 France 
🇬🇪 Georgia 
🇩🇪 Germany 
🇬🇭 Ghana 
🇬🇷 Greece 
🇬🇩 Grenada 
🇬🇹 Guatemala 
🇭🇹 Haiti 
🇭🇳 Honduras 
🇭🇺 Hungary 
🇮🇸 Iceland 
🇮🇳 India 
🇮🇪 Ireland 
🇮🇹 Italy 
🇯🇲 Jamaica 
🇯🇵 Japan 
🇰🇪 Kenya 
🇰🇮 Kiribati 
🇰🇵 Korea, North (North Korea) 
🇰🇷 Korea, South (South Korea) 
🇽🇰 Kosovo 
🇱🇦 Laos 
🇱🇻 Latvia 
🇱🇸 Lesotho 
🇱🇷 Liberia 
🇱🇮 Liechtenstein 
🇱🇹 Lithuania 
🇱🇺 Luxembourg 
🇲🇬 Madagascar 
🇲🇼 Malawi
🇲🇹 Malta 
🇲🇭 Marshall Islands 
🇲🇺 Mauritius 
🇲🇽 Mexico 
🇫🇲 Micronesia 
🇲🇩 Moldova 
🇲🇨 Monaco 
🇲🇳 Mongolia 
🇲🇪 Montenegro 
🇲🇲 Myanmar (Burma) 
🇳🇷 Nauru 
🇳🇵 Nepal 
🇳🇱 Netherlands 
🇳🇿 New Zealand 
🇳🇮 Nicaragua 
🇲🇰 North Macedonia (Macedonia) 
🇳🇴 Norway 
🇵🇼 Palau 
🇵🇦 Panama 
🇵🇬 Papua New Guinea 
🇵🇾 Paraguay 
🇵🇪 Peru 
🇵🇭 Philippines 
🇵🇱 Poland 
🇵🇹 Portugal 
🇷🇴 Romania 
🇷🇺 Russia 
🇷🇼 Rwanda 
🇰🇳 Saint Kitts and Nevis 
🇱🇨 Saint Lucia 
🇻🇨 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 
🇼🇸 Samoa 
🇸🇲 San Marino 
🇸🇹 Sao Tome and Principe 
🇷🇸 Serbia 
🇸🇨 Seychelles 
🇸🇱 Sierra Leone 
🇸🇬 Singapore 
🇸🇰 Slovakia 
🇸🇮 Slovenia 
🇸🇧 Solomon Islands 
🇪🇸 Spain 
🇱🇰 Sri Lanka 
🇸🇪 Sweden
🇨🇭 Switzerland 
🇹🇼 Taiwan 
🇹🇿 Tanzania 
🇹🇭 Thailand 
🇹🇴 Tonga 
🇹🇹 Trinidad and Tobago 
🇹🇳 Tunisia 
🇹🇲 Turkmenistan 
🇹🇻 Tuvalu 
🇺🇦 Ukraine 
🇬🇧 United Kingdom (UK) 
🇺🇸 United States of America (USA) 
🇺🇾 Uruguay 
🇻🇺 Vanuatu 
🇻🇦 Vatican City 
🇻🇳 Vietnam 
🇿🇲 Zambia 
🇿🇼 Zimbabwe
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fairuzfan · 9 months ago
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(This got soo much longer than I meant for it to be omg... sorry about that!!)
American Holocaust by David Stannard is a flawed book with some dated language, but of everything I've read, I think I like its explanation/argument against this weird sort of... competitive genocide stuff. I'm gonna butcher it a little by cutting out a LOT in order to not nuke your inbox with a super long ask, but:
[…] To say this is not to say that the Jewish Holocaust-the inhuman destruction of 6,000,000 people-was not an abominably unique event. It was. So, too, for reasons of its own, was the mass murder of about 1,000,000 Armenians in Turkey a few decades prior to the Holocaust. So, too, was the deliberately caused "terror-famine" in Stalin's Soviet Union in the 1930s, which killed more than 14,000,000 people. So, too, have been each of the genocidal slaughters of many millions more, decades after the Holocaust, in Burundi, Bangladesh, Kampuchea, East Timor, the Brazilian Amazon, and elsewhere. Additionally, within the framework of the Holocaust itself, there were aspects that were unique in the campaign of genocide conducted by the Nazis against Europe's Romani people, which resulted in the mass murder of perhaps 1,500,000 men, women, and children. [...]
Each of these genocides was distinct and unique, for one reason or another, as were (and are) others that go unmentioned here. In one case the sheer numbers of people killed may make it unique. In another case, the percentage of people killed may make it unique. In still a different case, the greatly compressed time period in which the genocide took place may make it unique. In a further case, the greatly extended time period in which the genocide took place may make it unique. No doubt the targeting of a specific group or groups for extermination by a particular nation's official policy may mark a given genocide as unique. So too might another group's being unofficially (but unmistakably) targeted for elimination by the actions of a multinational phalanx bent on total extirpation. Certainly the chilling utilization of technological instruments of destruction, such as gas chambers, and its assembly-line, bureaucratic, systematic methods of destruction makes the Holocaust unique. On the other hand, the savage employment of non-technological instruments of destruction, such as the unleashing of trained and hungry dogs to devour infants, and the burning and crude hacking to death of the inhabitants of entire cities, also makes the Spanish anti-Indian genocide unique.
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A secondary tragedy of all these genocides, moreover, is that partisan representatives among the survivors of particular afflicted groups not uncommonly hold up their peoples' experience as so fundamentally different from the others that not only is scholarly comparison rejected out of hand, but mere cross-referencing or discussion of other genocidal events within the context of their own flatly is prohibited. It is almost as though the preemptive conclusion that one's own group has suffered more than others is something of a horrible award of distinction that will be diminished if the true extent of another group's suffering is acknowledged.
Compounding this secondary tragedy is the fact that such insistence on the incomparability of one's own historical suffering, by means of what Irving Louis Horowitz calls "moral bookkeeping," invariably pits one terribly injured group against another […]
Denial of massive death counts is common--and even readily understandable, if contemptible--among those whose forefathers were the perpetrators of the genocide. Such denials have at least two motives: first, protection of the moral reputations of those people and that country responsible for the genocidal activity (which seems the primary motive of those scholars and politicians who deny that massive genocide campaigns were carried out against American Indians); and second, on occasion, the desire to continue carrying out virulent racist assaults upon those who were the victims of the genocide in question (as seems to be the major purpose of the anti-Semitic so-called historical revisionists who claim that the Jewish Holocaust never happened or that its magnitude has been exaggerated). But for those who have themselves been victims of extermination campaigns to proclaim uniqueness for their experiences only as a way of denying recognition to others who also have suffered massive genocidal brutalities is to play into the hands of the brutalizers. Rather, as Michael Berenbaum has wisely put it, "we should let our sufferings, however incommensurate, unite us in condemnation of inhumanity rather than divide us in a calculus of calamity."
The whole thing is available to read on the Internet Archive if you're interested. (This part starts on pg 149, if you'd just like to have the full context without the parts I chopped.)
Additionally, Carrol Kakel's book The American West and the Nazi East, while imperfect, too, is also very useful in getting at the core issue with these arguments and what makes them harmful--regardless of intent. I'm gonna spare you and not quote too much from this one, but the general gist of what it's about and argues in favor of is summed up like this in its conclusion:
In the case of the Holocaust and its contexts, the new ‘optics’ helps us see that – contrary to the prevailing image of ‘industrial genocide’ – many aspects of the Holocaust are akin to earlier ‘colonial genocide’. It is worth noting (and emphasizing) that the distinction I make between ‘colonial genocide’ and ‘industrial genocide’ is not to suggest some type of crude and arbitrary ‘partitioning’ of the Nazi Holocaust; it is, rather, to suggest and reassert the (settler) colonial roots, content, and context of the Nazi project in the ‘Wild East’ – a content and context linked, in Hitler’s and Himmler’s ‘spatial’ and ‘racial’ fantasies, to the ‘North American precedent’. And finally, the new ‘optics’ also allows us to understand that the ‘genocide and colonialism’ nexus holds the key to recognizing the Holocaust’s origins, content, and context; that the Nazi Holocaust is not a copy – but an extremely radicalized variant – of earlier ‘colonial genocide’; and that ‘holocaust’ is not a separate category from, but the most extreme variant of, the blight on human history we call ‘genocide’.
One of the more infamous examples of someone trying to argue against comparison (at least in the NDN circles I run in, anyway) was Deborah Lipstadt claiming that "[What the United States did to Native Americans] was not the same as the Holocaust" because, she says, "The Native Americans were seen as "competitors" for land and resources. There was, therefore, a certain logic-horrible and immoral as it was-to the campaign against the Native Americans."
Just for context, the full paragraph from her blog post:
What the United States did to Native Americans was horrendous. I have not studied it closely and it's not my area of expertise, however, it seems clear that the treatment of the various Native American tribes was revolting. However, it was not the same as the Holocaust. The Native Americans were seen as "competitors" for land and resources. There was, therefore, a certain logic-horrible and immoral as it was-to the campaign against the Native Americans. [Please note: I am NOT justifying the attacks.] The German campaign against the Jews had no logic and was often completely illogical. People who were "useful" to the Germans were murdered or exiled, e.g. slave laborers in factories producing goods for the Wehrmacht and scientists who were producing important technological advances for the Germans. In a prime example of illogic, in June 1944 at the time of the landing at Normandy, when the Germans were truly on the defensive, they used precious ships and men to go to the Island of Corfu and deport the 1200 Jews who lived there. They ended up in Auschwitz. Approximately 100 of this old Jewish community survived.
This is obviously a repulsive take, but the bizarre rationalization of abject evil isn't what I think makes this such a good example of the big issue at the heart of the constant emphasis on "uniqueness." There are plenty of people who hold these "exceptionalist" beliefs without taking it that much further and dismissing other genocides altogether. No, the thing that makes this such a perfect encapsulation imo is the very first sentence, where this historian, this professor of "Holocaust Studies," this woman who's ostensibly spent most of her entire life studying genocide openly admits she's never really bothered to look into what, exactly, happened to all those Indians way back when.
This is ultimately what I, personally, see as the main issue with this line of thinking. The harm doesn't necessarily come from holding the Holocaust up as "worse" than any other genocidal event, though that way of thinking definitely has its own problems, but from holding it up as fundamentally different.
It's the way this view holds it up as completely separate, in its own little bubble of history where we can study it and analyze it and teach about it all we want... all without ever having to broach the subject of colonialism. You can have entire classes where you study every single minute detail of this one specific genocide without ever having to mention or--god forbid--criticize the system that's driven pretty much every other instance of it.
Deborah Lipstadt has spent the better part of a century learning everything there is to know about the Holocaust, but in all that time, she's apparently never felt the need to look into the events that its perpetrators openly and repeatedly referred to as their inspiration.
This is what makes this sort of framing so dangerous imo. You can spend your entire life educating yourself about genocide, but if it's only in the context of one genocide and the belief in the uniqueness and incomparability of that single event is core to your understanding of both it and your worldview as a whole, you will still be completely incapable of recognizing the signs when it starts to happen again.
this is a really informative ask. thank you so much for sending this in (love the citations haha) i think it adds a lot to the overall discussion.
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sayruq · 1 year ago
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[CONT] green light for an invasion of East Timor. Right after they left the following day, Indonesia invaded and began a genocide.
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spot-the-antisemitism · 11 days ago
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More on the Israeli Miku making people mad series: what is this mental gymnastics??
surface-concept made a post basically like "why are you mad at Israeli Miku if you're fine with Russian, Chinese, USA, etc. miku"
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I just... BITCH USA AMERICAN CULTURE WOULDN'T EXIST.WITHOUT THE GENOCIDE OR DISPLACEMENT OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLES
Same with countries like australia, new zealand, canada, literally every other country in America, idk Taiwan?
"oh it just comes down to feelings" that sounds like a you problem buddy!
"i cannot think of Israel without thinking of Palestinians suffering" idk like that's your prerogative but apparently you can think of the usa without thinking of indigenous peoples' suffering, and canada, and australia, and new zealand, and russia, and you can think of turkey without thinking of the armenian, assyrian and greek genocides, and of Afghanistan without thinking of the genocide of hazara people, and of Myanmar without thinking of the genocide of Rohingya people, and of Indonesia without thinking of the suffering of people in West Papua and of the genocide in East Timor, and of Portugal Spain France Belgium the UK etc without thinking of colonialism and genocide of indigenous people, and of Germany without thinking of the fucking Holocaust. So maybe ask yourself why Israel is such an exception for you!
Like "celebration of Israel is like dancing on Palestinian graves" the genocide of indigenous peoples in Brazil is ONGOING and no one is going around saying brazilian Miku THE ORIGINAL is "dancing on indigenous peoples graves", like what the fuck. Do you HEAR yourselves
Sorry for ranting. Why are people 🤦‍♀️
Someone wants to genocide Jews in their homes and steal their stuff but also think Indigenous people want to do it to them and lies awake hating Jews and fearing Indigenous people
The thing about white people in south africa is they stayed there, the native africans didn't rape and genocide them and take their stuff like you want to do to Jews
and buddy you are the people torturing the child in the basement to get more utopia out of their suffering not the one who walks away you media illiterate fuck
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thelostdreamsthings · 1 year ago
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Henry Kissinger is dead.
He symbolized peak American Empire — violent geopolitics for the sake of power.
Human beings meant nothing to Kissinger, who supported depopulation programs & genocides.
He played a key role in war crimes & genocide in Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Indonesia, East Timor, Bangladesh;
He helped install murderous dictators in Brazil, Argentina etc. to maintain US control over Latin America.
He was also a mentor of Klaus Schwab, founder of World Economic Forum.
That he got a Nobel prize for peace shows how corrupt and evil the Western system is.
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determinate-negation · 1 year ago
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"israel was an interesting experiment proving that genocide victims also will happily do genocide but can we end the experiment now" i mean you could also talk about what morocco and indonesia does/did to western sahara and east timor the same colonial horrors inflicted upon them
my tax money goes to israel to keep killing palestinians. western media and politicians claim theyre supporting apartheid and genocide in my name. so im going to keep talking about palestine. and i talk about imperialism and us support for colonial violence on here a lot. but if you actually gave a shit you would make your own post instead of sending me this lol
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southeastasianists · 7 months ago
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In Dili, Indonesia’s future means trying to forget about Timor-Leste’s past
Indonesian President-elect Prabowo Subianto, a former military officer, has been linked to alleged atrocities in Timor-Leste.
At Timor-Leste’s museum of memory, Hugo Fernandes supervises exhibits chronicling resistance and oppression during the Indonesian occupation – an era when Prabowo Subianto, now Indonesia’s president-elect, is alleged to have overseen atrocities.
Fernandes runs the Centro Nacional Chega! museum, a former prison in the capital Dili that dates to when Timor-Leste was a Portuguese colony. Faded photographs of Timorese resistance fighters and messages scrawled on the walls by prisoners who languished here during Indonesia’s brutal 24-year rule line its galleries. 
Despite the shadows cast by history, the impending ascent to power of Prabowo, a former army special forces commander who was declared the winner of the Feb. 14 Indonesian general election, has been greeted with diplomatic decorum in this tiny young nation of 1.3 million people also known as East Timor.
“Prabowo’s specific actions remain unclear due to limited information,” Fernandes, the museum’s director, told BenarNews. “Accusations of human rights violations have persisted, but concrete evidence and verification are difficult to obtain.”
“Chega!,” which means “enough! in Portuguese, stands as a testament to Timor-Leste’s efforts to navigate the delicate path between preserving the memories of its dark past and promoting reconciliation with its giant neighbor next-door.
“There are differing voices within the nation,” Fernandes says. “Some activists advocate for answers regarding past atrocities, while others emphasize the importance of moving forward with Indonesia.”
In 1999, East Timor voted overwhelmingly to break away from Indonesian rule, through a United Nations-sponsored referendum. Before and after the vote, pro-Jakarta militias engaged in widespread violence and destruction. East Timor gained formal independence in 2002 after a period of U.N. administration.
The occupation, which followed after Indonesia invaded East Timor in December 1975, was marked by famine and conflict. The number of deaths attributed to that era ranges from from 90,000 to 200,000, the Commission for Reception, Truth and Reconciliation in East Timor reported.
This figure includes nearly 20,000 cases of violent deaths or disappearances. The commission’s findings indicate that Indonesian forces were responsible for about 70% of these violent incidents, set against the backdrop of East Timor’s population of around 900,000 in 1999.
And according to the Genocide Studies Program at Yale University, “up to a fifth of the East Timorese population perished during the Indonesia’s 24-year occupation … a similar proportion to the Cambodians who died under the Khmer Rouge regime of Pol Pot (1975-1979).”
Since 1999, the relationship between Timor-Leste and Indonesia has evolved, with Jakarta acknowledging its former province as a “close brother” and supporting Dili’s bid to join the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN).
Timor-Leste President José Ramos-Horta welcomed Prabowo’s election win and expressed readiness to collaborate with Indonesia’s upcoming new leader.
“Very pleased, very pleased,” Ramos-Horta told BenarNews when asked about Prabowo’s victory. 
As a young man, Ramos-Horta, now 74, was a founder and leader of Fretilin, the armed resistance movement that fought to liberate East Timor from the Portuguese first and then the Indonesians.
He said he had personally called Prabowo, now Indonesia’s defense minister, to congratulate him, and that the ex-general planned to visit Timor-Leste before his inauguration on Oct. 20.
Prime Minister Xanana Gusmão, a former guerilla leader who spent years in an Indonesian prison, was also happy with the news, Ramos-Horta said.
“President-elect Prabowo will contribute a lot, first to Indonesia, continuing stability and prosperity in Indonesia, and then in the region, as well as strengthen relations with Timor-Leste,” he said, adding Prabowo had “many friends” in his country, including his own brother, Arsenio.
When asked about Prabowo’s human rights record in Timor-Leste, Ramos-Horta said, “That is past. It’s already almost three decades, and we do not think of the past.”
Prabowo was a key figure in the military operations that crushed the East Timorese resistance.
The Timor-Leste National Alliance for an International Tribunal (ANTI), a coalition of civil society organizations, survivors, and families of victims, said reports had implicated Prabowo in a 1983 massacre in Kraras.
Some estimates said that  200 people were killed there, earning the area the nickname the “town of widows.”
In a statement released in November, the alliance said that as the head of the Indonesian army’s special forces command, Prabowo had directed actions resulting in severe human rights abuses and crimes, including the establishment of pro-Indonesian militias blamed for post-referendum violence in 1999.
In addition, Prabowo is linked to a 1991 massacre at the Santa Cruz cemetery in Dili, where some 250 peaceful demonstrators were killed, the alliance said.
In 1998, Prabowo was discharged from the military after a council of honor officers found him guilty of several violations, including involvement in the abduction and disappearance of pro-democracy activists during the 1998 student protests that led to the downfall of Indonesian dictator Suharto.
Prabowo, 72, has denied any wrongdoing and said he was only following orders from his superiors. He has never been tried in a civilian court for the alleged crimes.
Prabowo’s presidential campaign team said that witnesses, including religious figures in Timor-Leste, had denied his connection to the Krakas killings.
For many Timorese, the memories of Indonesian occupation are hard to erase. 
Naldo Rei, 50, a former child guerrilla-fighter who was repeatedly imprisoned during that period, said he could not overlook Prabowo’s human rights record.
“While I don’t want to meddle in Indonesia’s internal matters, when it comes to human rights issues, Prabowo has a very distressing track record,” Rei told BenarNews, his soft-spoken and gentle demeanor belying his resistance years.
Rei spent his youth evading capture in the Los Palos jungle after the loss of six family members, including his father, to Indonesian military action.
In the early 1990s, he sought refuge first in Jakarta, then in Australia, before settling in an independent East Timor.
Rei, who is the author of “Resistance,” a memoir detailing his experiences, voices apprehension about the trajectory of Indonesian democracy.
“Prabowo’s victory, from my perspective, squanders the democracy that the people have fought for,” he said. “How many lives have been lost? He and other generals have blood on their hands.”
Januario Soares, a second-year medical student at the National University of Timor Lorosae, represents a growing sentiment focused on the future.
“Indonesia has chosen its leader. We need to focus on the future,” Soares said as he sat in the shade of a mahogany tree outside his campus in Dili.
He believes strengthening relations between the two countries is vital.
“The civil war left us divided, and in that division, we inadvertently opened our doors to Indonesia,” Soares said. “What followed was a period of violence against our people, a scar in our history.”
Yet, when it comes to Prabowo’s role in that history, Soares admitted he did not know much.
“The Indonesian people have made their choice. Perhaps Prabowo is the best among the contestants; that’s why they chose him,” he said.
Soares said he opted for a pragmatic approach toward the past, focusing on improving the quality of life and seeking benefits for the present and future.
“People change over time, and I believe Prabowo has changed too.” 
Damien Kingsbury, a political expert specializing in Timor-Leste, said Timorese leaders were obligated to maintain a delicate diplomatic stance due to the small nation’s reliance on Indonesia for imports and its aspirations to join ASEAN, the Southeast Asian bloc. Indonesia is one of ASEAN’s founding members.
“Of course, Ramos-Horta must be diplomatic,” said Kingsbury, a professor at Deakin University in Australia, who has written extensively on Timor-Leste and Indonesia.
“He is president of a small country that has an unhappy history with Indonesia and does not want to create any possible problems,” he told BenarNews.
Kingsbury pointed out that while Ramos-Horta, a Nobel laureate and prominent diplomat, is well-versed in the language of diplomacy, there is a generational gap in awareness of the nation’s tumultuous past.
“Younger people may not be aware of events of 20, 30 and 40 years ago, but that does not mean they did not happen,” he said.
“It must leave a bitter taste in the mouths of many that Timor-Leste’s leaders need to be polite to Prabowo.”
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azspot · 1 year ago
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The American experiment, built on slavery, began with a genocidal campaign against Native Americans that was exported to the Philippines and, later, nations such as Vietnam. The narratives we tell ourselves about World War II, largely to justify our right to intervene around the globe, are a lie. It was the Soviet Union that destroyed the German army long before we landed at Normandy. We firebombed cities in Germany and Japan killing hundreds of thousands of civilians. The war in the South Pacific, where one of my uncles fought, was bestial, characterized by rabid racism, mutilation, torture and the routine execution of prisoners. The atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were egregious war crimes. The U.S. routinely destroys democracies that nationalize U.S. and European corporations as in Chile, Iran and Guatemala, replacing them with repressive military regimes. Washington supported the genocides in Guatemala and East Timor. It embraces the crime of preemptive war. There is little in our history to justify the claim of unique American virtues.
Chris Hedges
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workingclasshistory · 2 years ago
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On this day, 7 December 1975, Indonesia invaded East Timor, beginning 24 years of brutal occupation which would leave up to a fifth of the local population dead in a genocide which was made possible by support from the US. East Timor gained independence following the Portuguese revolution of 1974. Neighbouring Indonesia, under the anti-communist dictator president Suharto, feared a left-wing government taking power and invaded. The subsequent occupation resulted in the deaths of 200,000 people or more. The military equipment used in the genocide, including fighter jets, bombs, napalm and guns, was provided by the United States. When asked if US weapons were used in the genocide, one senior Indonesian general replied: "Of course there were US weapons used. These are the only weapons that we have." When Indonesian troops finally withdrew in 1999, they massacred over 1000 people and burned down 80% of buildings in the country. Pictured: Suharto meeting with US President Richard Nixon, 1970 Learn more about the Portuguese revolution in our podcast episodes 41-42: https://workingclasshistory.com/podcast/e41-42-the-portuguese-revolution/ https://www.facebook.com/workingclasshistory/photos/a.296224173896073/2154732701378535/?type=3
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