#Dragon Age Retribution
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Yall im sorry I cant get Corrupted Inquisitor (Elgarnan’s champion of vengance.) out of my head
Elgarnaan once free purposefully goes after Lavellan after hearing about the skyweaver who lost everything on so many occasions
Elgarnaan uses magic to repress everything that makes the Inquisitor a hero. Elgarnaan removes regret ,remorse, guilt and sets The Inquisitor loose as his champion of Vengeance (Bonus points if mage,female or non-binary,or non human race.)
The first place the Inquisitor goes for Vengeance?… The chantry that took the most prevalent trauma of their life and exploited it for a hero story thrusting them in a position they did not ask for or consent to… derailing the life they had and replacing it with an uncertain one under public scrutiny (Again bonus points if they have their own gods.)
For corrupted Lavellan specific The Second target would be the Duke of Wycome and everyone who works for him a Clan for a Clan. (Justice under the influence of Elgarnaan.)and corrupted Lavellan is the opposite of Inquisitor Lavellan they don’t forgive the Duke of Wycome, they don’t move on they camp out in the ruins once belonging to clan Lavellan where the bodies of all they knew and loved are buried and they hunt every one of the Duke of Wycome’s men down slowly. Corrupted Lavellan makes them feel every inch of what Lavellan believed their clan would have…. corrupted Lavellan is cold tactics only… and the Duke of Wycomes men are killed on by one brutally in a way that is the opposite of the Lavellan The Inquisition knew.
For Qunari Inquisitor this would be them going after the Qun who used them as a puppet their whole lives who stripped them of thought of choice of will… Now Corrupted Inquisitor will strip them of the exact same an eye for an eye
Now Regular Human super privilege Inquisitor would go after the Exalted Council next forcibly thrust into a position they didn’t ask for to gain eyes on them they never asked for only to have these people strip it away as soon as it was given toying with the Inquisitors life again?! Then having the audacity to say that They gave the inquisition too much power…. Maybe they should learn what too much power actually is? What it feels like to have your entire life subjected to the puppet strings of another unseen hand
Corrupted Inquisitor the champion of Elgarnaan then turns their Vengeful gaze on Their shared “Enemy.” Solas/Fenharel. The corrupted Inquisitor under the influence of Elgarnaan confronts Solas on every repressed thought and memory they had on his betrayal.
For Corrupted Lavellan its worse it is so much worse because either Solas sees the love of his life or one of his closest/only friends corrupted into the opposite of everything they stood for and acting in a way that would horrify and disgust normal Lavellan It is like looking into the eyes of a stranger and he is forced to be in the position he put the Inquisitor in. Kill them to save everyone or make them remember who they are through great effort
in freeing The Inquisitor from Elgarnaans influence Solas has to confront all his own shit to help them confront theirs and break Elgarnaans hold over them
Im sorry Im a little obsessed with corrupted Inquisitor
UwU
Yall realize Solas let out Elgarnan out most likely …. Elgarnan is the god of revenge Which character in this series would have the most reason to get revenge on a large amount of people?
The Inquisitor and it works for almost every origin
Warrior Inquisitor getting revenge on mages
Qunari Inquisitor taking out years of pent up frustration at the Qun
Dwarf Inquisitor getting revenge on the cartels and gangs of the deeproads
Mage Inquisitor hunting Templars
And elvhen specific is juicy ….
Imagine Elgarnan using magic to alter Lavellan’s morals based on their pain and trauma …. Imagine Elgarnan taking away the one thing holding Lavellan back their Empathy…and ability to feel remorse
Now imagine the roles are reversed and the Inquisitor is the big bad and Solas has to stop them
#dragon age angst#sollavellan hell#dragon age#dragon age veilguard#dragon age theory#the veilguard#dragon age headcannons#dragon age headcannon#dragon age retribution#elgarnan#inquisitor#dragon age inquisition#dragon age lavellan#dragon age solas#solas x inquisitor#solas x lavellan#dragon age gods#dragon age speculation#dragon age thoughts#dragon age the veilguard#datv#da:tv#da: inquisition#da: the veilguard#da:4#dragon age 4#dragon age plottwist#theory
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in my heart of hearts the mythal in the crossroads is 6 feet tall, horned, decked out in armor fitting a self-appointed goddess borne from primordial war and a giant fuck-you dramatic feathered cape. it hurts to look at her directly. out of the corner of your eye you swear the shadow she casts is in the shape of a dragon. she's been stewing in resentment for so long the air just always smells like a wildfire and lightning strikes. ya'll remember the fucking puzzles in her temple? you wouldn't be able to just walk up to her and start talking to her, idc how long it's been since she's had petitioners.
if you want me to believe in the "like holding a piece of the sun" line you have to do better than the pajama-wearing default character creator template num 9 that we actually got.
#she would also still be the spirit of justice/retribution that she's been mentioned as since the dawn of the series not fucking benevolence#when i heard morrigan say that i was like “hmm. i think you're lying”#i simply do not believe you#and w the way rook is as a person they absolutely would not be able to get her favor are you kiddin me#mythal demanded her sentinels and those serving her remain so even after they die#remember how scared/pissed off solas was about the vir'abelasan?#what happened to that mythal?#da4#dragon age#veilguard
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elgar'nan razed the island to the ground with fire for ghilan'nain's death. his anger was so strong he lashed out not only at rook and their team, but his own forces as well. he got the dagger he needed, but at what cost? the price of his sister's life? the sister that he needed to make their dream come true, for without her the dagger is simply a weapon and not an artist's tool? will be thinking about this forever.
#dragon age#datv#dragon age the veilguard#datv spoilers#elgar'nan#ghilan'nain#the only reason i gaf about this man is because he cares for ghilan'nain. to the point of fiery retribution it seems#idk why he didnt just have his big boy lusacan cronch rook and co from the start but buddy. how does regret feel?#“and ghilan'nain. my brilliant sister. would have forged the blight into a tool of beauty.” AAAA#he sounds so soft when he talks about her. i need to write fic i need to i need to. theyre so twisted and wrong but there is tragedy#there too.#anyways i finished the game. im sure i'll be normal about it
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Some doodles from today ^__^
Princess Retribution (from my comic) and Teia (from veilguard)
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Chapter Update!
“Please,” Solas pleaded, “stop this.”
“I have no power here,” Felassan said. “I never did, did I? It was always Mythal or the People. What of her, your Dalish bride? What of me? What of my story? Did I matter at all?"
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gareth david-lloyd is such a wonderful voice actor. i keep rethinking of his reading of the line "i will always go where you go." and it sounds so resigned and pained, like already solas knows he is going down a path that will lead to death and horror but his friend needs him, the people need him. they need his wisdom and guidance, and he knows taking on a physical form will not only be his undoing, but that of the world as he knows it. but still he goes, because duty comes above all.
#he sounds so sad and defeated in all those cutscenes#the way he played it as if solas already knew due to his true nature that this would all lead to ruin#and yet he foolishly hoped it'd be different. perhaps benevolence turned retribution would see his reason and support him#and all he was met with were platitudes as his true nature twisted and rotted into pride#like when he tells mythal perhaps she would prefer to join him and live as free spirits again because the blight is unraveling#and she placates him first by starting with i always come when my friends need me (when he says he wasnt sure if she'd arrive)#and then she tries to placate him again by using the word 'love' and her va is amazing too because the way she says it#the way a mother would console a crying child and tell them there is no monster under the bed#and it's slightly patronizing too in a way. saying he's wrong and she knows better#and once again he quells his own nature of wisdom even when he argues that he wishes he could believe her but he /senses/ the wards undone#and he sounds so tired. but hes made his promises to her and who is he not to keep them?#his slightly horrified voice when he speaks of having no desire to live as a physical being. :(#dragon age thoughts#solas dragon age#datv spoilers#gareth david lloyd
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One side effect of the autistic sense of justice for me is going insane over justice and vengeance as concepts in themselves whenever applicable in media.
Which unfortunately means that thinking about justice dragon age for too long (especially with the post inq takes on spirits) makes me want to rip my hair out.
#i can't reconcile with the idea that vengeance is a corrupted 'too much' version of justice im sorry i'll always believe in Anders simply-#being stupid and catholic about it (affectionate)#It just. even if we're strictly viewing one as 'more violent' . that idea is.. not quite 100% applicable? kghfdhg 😭#it strictly depends on what is the driving force right? what are we avenging/ seeking justice for#and if violence for it is called for- then well- that response would be /Just/ just as much as it'd be an act of vengeance/retribution#if not more#Thing is Justice is the one type of spirit we've met(that i remember) that's intrinsically tied with morality by his very nature#/you can be wise and immoral or compassionate to people who very much do not deserve it etcetc#(i hate Mythal as benevolence ((SHE WAS A SLAVER)) -> retribution as much as i hate all evanuris lore but shes a good example of this)#but Justice? Justice to be Justice has to be objective#which IS BORDERLINE IMPOSSIBLE to apply in the real world outside the fade. which i suppose is where you CAN bring vengeance in.#vengeance as justice but looking at the world through a subjective lens. Since Vengeance and Justice CAN be two sides of the same coin.#Vengeance can be as Just as you make it- it's just that /unlike/ justice- it doesnt have that same objective moral tie.#ie how you get someone like elgar'nan on the opposite end of the morality scale being called the god of it#but dragon age overall has the most wack and muddled sense of that all these words /concepts-#mean/are meant to convey that im starting to feel like im losing my grasp on the english language overall 😭#bc even after this entire philosophical talk - anders' justice-> vengeance as a transition makes me go???#at that the fuck elgar'nan 's deal was supposed to be originally then? certainly not justice. unless maybe we mean justice as in law??#BUT THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER CAN OF WORMS. DO YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN.#veilguard spoilers#dav spoilers#for the mythal thing#elluin wotr and whatever the fuck he has going on with calistria and iomedae save me from this. save me ellu
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Thinking about Mythal again.
Last year, I started to get interested in the history of "Mother Goddesses" in mythology. In part due to learning about dnd Tiamat and her real life mythological counterpart. How a Mother Creator becomes World Destroyer fascinates me greatly. Especially because it echoes my own journey from over-responsible white knight people pleaser, into someone free from the narratives I've been spoon fed. But it''s led to me feeling deeply betrayed. I poured my heart out to people for years, only to realize they were bleeding me dry.
Imagine out of the kindness of your heart, you gave life and sustenance and love to others. You loved love and life, and so it was no worry to give to those in need. You made the world a better place. You made all feel cherished from your love, and you loved to give that love.
But imagine you did not get love. Or even worse, they hurt you instead. After all you'd done for them. After all the trust you had given them.
In my struggle with people depending on me when I never asked them to be, it feels like I let them nurse from me. Then when I realize they drain me, they feel like parasites. Insects crawling all over me. Invading me. Infecting me.
Imagine if Mother Earth was sentient, and one day felt like every living creature growing out of her skin were crawling parasites. She'd seek to wipe the face of the earth clean. How dare they hurt and infect her.
Flood myths. The sea seen as the birthplace of life, suddenly swallowing up the world it had brought forth.
Benevolence turning into Retribution. Suddenly your very existence is a grand sin to the mother who gave you everything. The life you live. The air you breathe. The world you exist in. What a terrifying reckoning for the muliebrious universe to decide to take her gifts back.
#mythal#flemythal#datv mythal#i love her character so much#wish we saw the retribution she spoke of#dragon age the veilguard#evanuris
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doot doot smol starter call for Lark in her DRAGON AGE VERSE.
moots only pls, and multis pls specify muse.
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Anyway my dragon age conspiracy theory is that Mythal was originally meant to be a spirit of Justice/Vengeance but devs were so committed to erasing all traces of Anders from this franchise that they had to change that as well
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i know its not the best quality of hair physics out there but just the fact that bioware can do this..... huge
#dragon age#like i saw that and got so gobsmacked i downloaded capcut to make this#long haired rooks eating good in two months#arishka is going to look so good i#dai did her so nasty and dirty and washed up#adaar girlies.... our retribution will come
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sorry I got mythal brainrot, does the game ever say anything explicit about her relationship with elgar'nan except her telling to solas "don't worry I am just doing it for the greater good trust me"
like I am to assume all the stories about them being married are folktales doing their thing or am I free to imagine maybe they did bang. this is not at all because I want this to be as messy and heartbreaking for everyone involved I promise.
(because I also assumed it was a folk tale whatever elgar'nan did with the sun BUT LO AND BEHOLD)
#antiqua plays veilguard#veilguard spoilers#i can be trusted with whatever the fuck was going on with mythal#and the mythal of solas' memories VS the mythal of the rest of the world#'she's benevolence turned retribution' AND#dragon age#veilguard#mythal
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Honestly a little obsessed with the similarities between Paul Grayson's transformation into a Husk, and Bregan's transformation into a ghoul!!!!
The way they both slowly lose themselves, their individuality blending into the greater consciousness of what they're becoming. The way they can be manipulated by that greater consciousness, and how it's so subtle at the beginning they don't even notice it. The way their bodies change and they're horrified about it at first, but soon accept what they're becoming. And the way they both take one final stand at the end 🥺
I'm obsessed, I tell you.
#mass effect#dragon age#mass effect retribution#the calling#paul grayson#bregan#husks#ghouls#darkspawn taint#grey wardens#mass effect reapers
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when I'm done with this playthrough I'm making a compilation of '*tender yet gently exasperated/concerned and helpless rye voice* taash...' b/c it's something that is actually so personal. to me. he just says their name in such a Way that he doesn't with anyone else
#he loves that blunt brash dragon hunter YOLOist with his whole gravekeeper heart#and also thinks they are some kind of divine retribution for all the shit he put his instructors through as a young man hfksjd#dragon age#dragon age: the veilguard#oc: Ellaryen Ingellvar#taash#the rare times when he says it almost exactly like shathann says 'evataash!!' in reproof fkhsajdfhsa#he also says 'lucanis...' with some of the same infinite tenderness and 'my heart is so full I barely know what to do with my hands#or my soul about it' intensity of affection and rueful powerlessness but not quite as regularly lol#(lucanis and rye's mutual 'please what can I do for you???' thing is very easily solved by an equally mutual 'just be here with me'#their like souls talk to each other real well or whatever they both Get it fairly quickly#'so if your mere company is my salvation and my company is somehow yours... I think we're good actually#hey do you want to sit together at lunch forever in life and in death. cool me too I'll save the seat for you :) <3'#taash and rye's whole deal is a lot more complicated and fraught than that but still very full of love)
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Not to complain or something but I think mythals crossroads essence should've been possesing an inquisitor who drank from the well of sorrows actually
#datv#it wouldve been a nice trinity#three pieces of mythal all divided amongst different pieces#also imagine the well choice leading to an inquisitor who's an abomination and the spirit possesing them being mythals retribution#i just think it would be neat#dragon age the veilguard#im aware something is said about the essence not being able to surivive anywhere but that part of the crossroads but i honestly dont care
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In 9:41, the Herald of Andraste, Alexandra Caera Trevelyan, began to preach her new Chants to southern Thedas. With the crippling of Chantry authority due to the Mage Rebellion, Orlais' fall into civil war, and Divine Justinia V's assassination, many in Thedas turned to the Herald as their new guiding light, and held fast to her as Andraste's blessed daughter, even with the passing of the Mark.
"Praise be to Your Lord and His Bride, and Their Herald, who bears the Mark, and peace be unto the Believers, who bear witness. They ask of you [Alexandra], 'Surely our Maker would not send a mage, a child nearer to damnation. Surely, he would not send the blood of the murderer that slain His Bride.' Ah, that is but only their desires! Wise is your Lord, who would send a daughter, a daughter who is blood of the two Realms, of Andraste and ancient Elvhenan, of this world and the Unseen." Wise is your Lord, who bore witness to the death of His Chosen, and has arisen something greater, more precious, and has given to all Worlds [to all the people], a gentle Mercy, a fierce Reminder." - [The Disputation, 2:1-21]1
"O', you who Believe, when you come across one of the Elvhen, be of the Dalish or of the Alienage, greet them with Peace, and say onto them, 'Our Lady remembers the Blood of Shartan, and sends Her Love onto her Daughter and onto you. Truly, she [Alexandra] is among the Blood.' [or, truly she is a part of you; or, she is part of the Elves.] Forbidden are the Believers to drink the wine of injustice. When you were of the oppress and among the lost, did your Maker not sent Guidance? Ordained onto Our Herald verily is this: when you see oppression, slay it utterly, and cast it into the Flame, so not even it's ashes can be reborn anew. A covenant is granted, to the elves and Andraste's Daughter. Restored are the Dales, and protected in trust by Andraste's Chosen, to the children of Elvhenan. Forbidden are the Lesser Thrones [Orlais, Ferelden, etc.] and Sanctified Seats [the White and Black Divines] to deny the Throne [the Maker] of anything, which They have revealed onto you [Alexandra]. Among the Elves who ascend such a covenant, with their hands clasped onto Our Herald, Our Hands are clasped onto theirs, and Truly We know what is in their hearts. So let all broken oaths before you [Alexandra] become fallen leaves cast away by the wind, and let any who make oaths, unto the Maker, and unto the Flame-veiled Bride, and Her Blessed Daughter [the Herald], and whose heart is free and aware, retain their oaths, evermore. Love and Peace and Justice and Compassion, We have ordained onto those who believe. This is the near insurmountable pass, of which we have revealed onto you. Engraved this into your hearts, for your Lord is All-Aware, All-Knowing." - [The Covenant of the Elves, 10:1-43]2
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Note 1: The Disputation occurs when the Herald of Andraste first arrives at Val Royeux to meet and treat with the remaining Grand Clerics, which ultimately leads to the Chantry's condemnation of the Inquisition and Alexandra as heretics. Alexandra denies their claims and condemns the Chantry for denying her divinely-sanctioned role, citing the wisdom in Andraste choosing a half-elf mage to be her Herald, especially after the Mage Rebellion.
Note 2: The Covenant of the Elves occurs after the Inquisition establishes control over the Exalted Plains. Here, Alexandra reaffirms to the Dalish, and elves in southern Thedas, that the Dales belong to them, and that no nation or religious authority outside of Alexandra, as Andraste's Herald, has any right to remove the Elvish claims to the Dales, or have any right to dispute Alexandra's decisions. Alexandra also forgives any broken oaths that were made before her Heraldship, especially the commitments of the Mages to aid the Chantry and reside in the Circles. She also tactfully installs the theological belief that she must also be called upon when oaths are made. Pledging onto the Maker and Andraste is not enough. Pledging onto her as Andraste's living representative is also significant. Alexandra also discusses, briefly, on matters of ethics, referred to as the "near insurmountable pass", such as being compassionate and following justice, and that creation will struggle to follow through, but will overcome it in time.
#dragon age#dragon age inquisition#some rambling thoughts if BioWare actually allowed to you to go full on in the whole Prophet thing going on with the Herald of Andraste#Alexandra definitely uses that to her benefit#Here are just some of the things i think alexandra would preach about#Amayian does stuff similar but given he's actual Andraste's reincarnation#Andraste is a lot more angry and he doesn't actively codifiy his belief until his children#He does restore the Dales to the Elves though but doesn't have the political power to actually force Orlais to do it#Which also helps lead to Elvish aid during the War of Retribution under Rhialla#the inquisitor#female inquisitor#f!inquisitor#f!trevelyan#Alexandra Trevelyan#the Herald of ANdraste
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