#Denominationalism

[adventism-atheism-orthodoxy-me]

This Verse Secretly Undermines All of Christianity...

I just saw this and thought I would process it on my own.

This YouTuber doesn't sound like he's explored much beyond mainstream Western Christianity. He makes the bold statement that EVERY Christian sect finds indispensable the idea that Christ died on the Cross "for our sins". Period.

For the longest time I found that challenging too. He goes on to talk about many of the same things I've asked, "Why couldn't God just forgive us outright? Why must he go through a generational pageant to do something the God of the Universe could have done of his own accord in the first place?"

You can say this is a dumb question. I've been told this many times.

Yet I have never been the only one asking this.

Many, if not all Atheists ask this question. Frankly, many "Christian" answers sound a little unhinged.

Now, I don't think that his examples necessarily contradict the prevailing point of view though. All anyone has to do is look at the banking industry to see that credit on future earnings is a valid payment method. Now it's true that modern banking, and especially credit, wasn't developed until the European Jews, unable to make a living any other way, started lending during the medieval period. Jesuits came up with the idea of insurance, which didn't technically fall under the prohibition against usury. And with ongoing innovation, modern financial markets developed.

None of these, of course, would have been understood by the local people of Jesus' time and place.

What was understood was life and death.

And this is where I found my peace.

Sins can easily be forgiven, but sickness and eventual death? That's a whole other nut to crack. Now, to be clear, unfortunately even the most traditional Christian communities have started to obsess about how SIN must be atoned!

But there is a strain in the oldest Christian traditions that it wasn't primarily sin that was destroyed on the cross, but rather death, disease, corruption (of which sin is a derivation to be sure, but not the point).

Now it's easy to look around and say - "Look! it didn't work." I myself have had to say good bye to both my parents over the last several months.

However, there is a resurrection that is promised. And if Christ has done what he said he did, then there WILL be a general resurrection.

The key is to be prepared for that resurrection. Now we could go on about which denomination is best prepared, but I have little faith in denominationalism. I think it's a means to conquer and divide the faithful, pitting follower against follower. Soon the God who's being worshiped isn't the most High God, but the Deceiver who encourages us all to call each other heretics. I do not think most "Christians" are Christian, but rather following their own wisdom (1 Timothy 6:3-5, 2 Thessalonians 2:11, Matthew 7:13-14, Matthew 24:11).

Now I may be a false teacher myself for thinking such a thing and putting it out there, but I have faith that God will know his own. And while he loves the rest, and has given them life, that life will be so much less for the fact that they reject what he's given them.

I find the idea of a river of fire helpful - Moses and the Glory of God (Exodus 33:20-23), speaks to the idea that to human senses, God is Fire. The Story of the Three Holy Youths (Daniel 3) has also been seen as an illustration of man abiding in the presence of fire, as a proxy for God, unharmed. Pentecost is God's fire experienced by the faithful after his resurrection. How will Gods fire be experienced by the unfaithful?

I have no idea, but I doubt that it will be pleasant (Luke 16:19-31).

In short, I feel this video failed to land it's point. There's enough diversity in Christianity to survive this argument, though I do not think that most modern Christians are open to my resolution.

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Have mercy upon me, a sinner.

[confessions-of-a-queer-christian]

Identity crises are for wimps. Become a Calvinist and never be quite sure if what you just did was god or satan working through you.

Commit, cowards.

[bills-bible-basics]

Denominationalism Graphic 19 #Christian #BibleStudy #Jesus "Man Worship - Personality Cult Worship" KJV Bible Verse List: https://www.billkochman.com/VerseLists/verse263.html "Avoid Arguing" KJV Bible Verse List: https://www.billkochman.com/VerseLists/verse002.html Article: "Should Christians Engage in Doctrinal Debates?": https://www.billkochman.com/Articles/Doctrinal-Debate-01.html "Doctrinal and Spiritual Unity" KJV Bible Verse List: https://www.billkochman.com/VerseLists/verse013.html "One Blood Through Faith in Christ" KJV Bible Verse List: https://www.billkochman.com/VerseLists/verse550.html "One Body But Many Members" KJV Bible Verse List: https://www.billkochman.com/VerseLists/verse369.html "Broken Down the Middle Wall of Partition" KJV Bible Verse List: https://www.billkochman.com/VerseLists/verse463.html "Spirit of Truth" KJV Bible Verse List: https://www.billkochman.com/VerseLists/verse294.html "Led by the Spirit in Our Understanding" KJV Bible Verse List: https://www.billkochman.com/VerseLists/verse479.html "Taught by No Man" KJV Bible Verse List: https://www.billkochman.com/VerseLists/verse465.html "Taught by Revelation of the Holy Spirit" KJV Bible Verse List: https://www.billkochman.com/VerseLists/verse319.html Article: "Humility in Our Understanding of God's Word": https://www.billkochman.com/Articles/Humility-in-Our-Understanding-01.html Article: "Exposing the Tactics of the Enemy!": https://www.billkochman.com/Articles/expose-1.html "False Doctrine" KJV Bible Verse List: https://www.billkochman.com/VerseLists/verse016.html Article: "Elijah: Where Are the True Prophets of God?": https://www.billkochman.com/Articles/elijah-1.html Article: "Mary Worship, Christianity and Roman Catholicism": https://www.billkochman.com/Articles/marywor1.html Article: "Where Are the First Century Churches?": https://www.billkochman.com/Articles/frstcen1.html "Our True Spiritual Temple" KJV Bible Verse List: https://www.billkochman.com/VerseLists/verse056.html https://www.billkochman.com/Blog/index.php/denominationalism-graphic-19/?Denominationalism%20Graphic%2019

[preacheroftruthblog]

1 Corinthians: The Divine Command For Unity Over Division

I appeal to you, brothers, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and the same judgment.  1 Corinthians 1:10 As we read the first of the rebukes given by the apostle to the Corinthian church in this letter, it is worth noting that it starts with an “appeal” (1:10a).  Clearly Paul is commanding…

[geekpreacher217]

That We May Be One - 1 Corinthians 1:10-13

Christ promised to build only one church, and he prayed in John 17 that those who believe in him might be united in one body.  But even in the first century there were already seeds of denominationalism being seen, such as those that Paul addressed in 1 Corinthians 1. 

[superbdonutpoetry]

What are the World's Churches Teaching?

If Israel’s prophetic program is in effect today, along with signs and wonders, and people are being healed, both mentally and physically, why are the hospitals and mental institutions filled to capacity and why do we have physicians for every disease and ailment known to mankind? Are the hospitals and mental institutions full because people have little or no faith? If this is the case, then how…

[normfields]

The Postmodern Attack on Biblical Ethics

It is not possible to live the faithful Christian life while compromising with the Postmodern ideology. Postmodernism is explicitly opposed the biblical ethics. https://rumble.com/v3oclxg-the-postmodern-attack-on-biblical-ethics.html

[apilgrimpassingby]

What non-denominationals think non-denominationalism means: We don't have that tradition and church history and denominations that make those other Christians so sectarian!

What non-denominationalism actually means: Our willful ignorance of tradition, church history and other denominations makes us the most sectarian people around!

Non-denominational Church

What people think it means: We're vaguely Protestant but not really associated with any particular group. That sounds so dogmatic.

What it actually means: We're so dogmatic and fundamentalist that none of the denominations would let us in.

[justarandombrit]

Now I know How the Grunch Cribbed Christmas

[fanby-fckry]

Dilemma: I want to make a joke in a Hazbin fic where Alastor mangles a prayer and I have a choice between the more denominationally accurate prayer (Bless us, oh Lord…) or one that will provide more pun opportunities (Dear Lord, thank you for this food…).

[62-cents]

its not easy being a (culturally catholic but denominationally who knows) christian and having both of your favorite superhero characters be catholic men who beat people up but someone has to do it

[idylls-of-the-divine-romance]

Nonbelievers/Exchristians: Christianity is so stupid. You're telling me I can be a murderer or a r*pist but if I just *believe* then I can be saved? Give me a break.

Paul: Actually, anyone who practices sexual immorality (fornication, pornagraphy, rape, incest, adultery, etc) and/or perversion (trafficking, prostituting, molesting, and raping children and other weaker individuals), idolatry, thievery and/or fraudulence, covetousness and/or greed, uncontrolled binges and addictions, abuse (including verbal abuse and slander, as well as physical abuse brought on by drunkenness), orgies, extortion, impurity (thoughts that objectify others), debauchery (deeds that objectify others), witchcraft and/or manipulation (especially of others through drugs), hostility and hatred, senseless and contentious discord produced from quarreling, resentment, outbursts of rage, selfishness, sectarianism and denominationalism, murder, lawlessness and evildoing, rebellion, ungodliness, sin (moral failure to love God and Humanity), vicious inconsideration of sacredness, profane defilement of what is holy, patricide and matricide, kidnapping and trading slaves, deceitfulness, and perjury will not take part in the Kingdom of God and it's "riches".

Nonbelievers/Exchristians: Ewww noooo, Christians are so judgemental!!!1! You just want to control me.

[caspercryptid]

Hey. Remember you can celebrate the holidays non religiously and non denominationally. Decide that December 26th is going to be the day you buy lots of reindeer statues on sale. Decide its going to be reindeer statue day. Do this every year. Or pick a movie you like, doesn't have to be seasonal but it could be winter themed, rewatch that every year. Make your favorite food with it. Invite friends who don't have stuff going on for the holidays. Cook for them. Get on itch.io to find a game to play w your friends or buy a board game. If you don't look forward to this time of year you can give yourself something to look forward to. You can establish your own traditions. You can do this any time. Make this time of year a time of year you look forward to by doing things you enjoy doing. I believe in u

[bills-bible-basics]

Denominationalism Graphic 14 #Christian #BibleStudy #Jesus "Man Worship - Personality Cult Worship" KJV Bible Verse List: https://www.billkochman.com/VerseLists/verse263.html "Avoid Arguing" KJV Bible Verse List: https://www.billkochman.com/VerseLists/verse002.html Article: "Should Christians Engage in Doctrinal Debates?": https://www.billkochman.com/Articles/Doctrinal-Debate-01.html "Doctrinal and Spiritual Unity" KJV Bible Verse List: https://www.billkochman.com/VerseLists/verse013.html "One Blood Through Faith in Christ" KJV Bible Verse List: https://www.billkochman.com/VerseLists/verse550.html "One Body But Many Members" KJV Bible Verse List: https://www.billkochman.com/VerseLists/verse369.html "Broken Down the Middle Wall of Partition" KJV Bible Verse List: https://www.billkochman.com/VerseLists/verse463.html "Spirit of Truth" KJV Bible Verse List: https://www.billkochman.com/VerseLists/verse294.html "Led by the Spirit in Our Understanding" KJV Bible Verse List: https://www.billkochman.com/VerseLists/verse479.html "Taught by No Man" KJV Bible Verse List: https://www.billkochman.com/VerseLists/verse465.html "Taught by Revelation of the Holy Spirit" KJV Bible Verse List: https://www.billkochman.com/VerseLists/verse319.html Article: "Humility in Our Understanding of God's Word": https://www.billkochman.com/Articles/Humility-in-Our-Understanding-01.html Article: "Exposing the Tactics of the Enemy!": https://www.billkochman.com/Articles/expose-1.html "False Doctrine" KJV Bible Verse List: https://www.billkochman.com/VerseLists/verse016.html Article: "Elijah: Where Are the True Prophets of God?": https://www.billkochman.com/Articles/elijah-1.html Article: "Mary Worship, Christianity and Roman Catholicism": https://www.billkochman.com/Articles/marywor1.html Article: "Where Are the First Century Churches?": https://www.billkochman.com/Articles/frstcen1.html "Our True Spiritual Temple" KJV Bible Verse List: https://www.billkochman.com/VerseLists/verse056.html https://www.billkochman.com/Blog/index.php/denominationalism-graphic-14/?Denominationalism%20Graphic%2014

[preacheroftruthblog]

It Never Was Your Grandfather's Church -- Patrick Swayne

Recently, a news article reported how a church that formerly identified as a “Church of Christ” abandoned this designation, adopting instead a generic name akin to the numerous evangelical community churches that dot the denominational landscape of the United States.1  With this change in branding came other changes to bring the church in line both with other aspects of the community church model…

[wild3rpeople]

🎉Well, it's a holly jolly, non-denominationally, good golly holiday time🎉