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I want to use this in part for characters in shows that can’t seem to move on from a traumatic event.
I just started Star Trek: Deep Space 9, and want to use Sisko as my prime example for this. Though I could use the Winchester Bros from Supernatural as a secondary example.
In the pilot of DS9 we see Sisko’s ship being actively destroyed by the Borg. He looks for his wife and child. She’s under steel rubble, already gone.
Trauma.
Three years later he is to be captain of Deep Space 9, where he ends up going through a wormhole and meets people who don’t experience time like humans do. They continuously ask him (via various people from his past, including his dead wife) questions about time.
But they keep ending up at that Borg attack from three years ago. They keep asking, with limited human language, “why do you exist here?”
They end up teaching him that he has not actually continued from this point in his life. He’s been in his own time loop for three years. And the timeless aliens gave us (the audience) a visual representation of the time loop. And that he needs to break out of this loop in order to continue living.
So yeah, I kinda like DS9.
My brain is currently trying to find different ways to showcase a person’s trauma for the books I’m writing. So this kind of stuff is heavily on my mind.
"Stuck in the timeloop as a punishment" is cool and all, but stuck in the timeloop voluntarily though? Oh, brother. Stuck in the timeloop cause you just can't move on. Stuck in the timeloop even if you know that it's not real and whatever should've happen already did. Stuck in the timeloop even if doesn't makes you happy. You just can't bear the thought of not being able to see them ever again. Stuck in the timeloop even if you know you should move on. Stuck in the timeloop even if you know they would want you to move on.
But maybe just a little while longer.
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Since it's introduction, I've always had a hard time getting a grip on the Maquis. They made it into three different series and seem to the first attempt to be critical of the Federation, and of the grand vision of the future Star Trek had previously envisioned, but had seemingly little impact.
Was there a particular ideology the Maquis were meant to represent? Was there a bigger idea behind them that was scrapped later? To what extent to you think their arguments were valid? And, especially, what was behind the choice of resolving their story off screen, without resolving their criticism of the Federation?
I've often found myself on their side, and I'm wondering if I'm in error or if that was the intent.
Thank you, 🖖
The basic idea of the Maquis is that they're people who refuse to leave a disputed zone, even if it violates a peace treaty between two hostile powers, in this case, the Federation and the Cardassian Empire. Though we weren't particularly thinking about it at the time, the closest analogy these days would be the Israeli Settlers on the West Bank, who essential continue to live in disputed territory despite the fact that their presence increases the likelihood of violent conflict. Although in the case of the Maquis, the don't have the type of support from their government that the settler movement enjoys.
Beyond that, they don't have a particular ideology, though I suppose they support, at least implicitly, a kind of Manifest Destiny that justifies the expansion of the Federation by force, which is a pretty extreme position for the UFP.
I understand their instinct to not want to leave "home," even if it's a colony world, but the Maquis were offered relocation, and they preferred to continue a war, so their position is pretty questionable in my opinion.
As for why we ended the storyline, we needed to wrap it up in deference to Voyager and also because we wanted to focus fully on the endgame of the Dominion War.
#tv writing#ask me anything#ask me stuff#star trek#ds9#star trek ds9#deep space nine#star trek deep space nine#deep space 9#star trek deep space 9#maquis#the maquis
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#julian bashir#miles o'brien#star trek#deep space 9#ds9#deep space nine#colm meaney#alexander siddig#siddig el fadil#my stuff#i've been to the same face journey too many times#ALSO realised i fucked up the resolution of the smaller gifs and they kinda look ugly but it's fine it's been a while#also trying out new things so if you see questionable decisions no you don't <3#trekedit#ds9edit
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DS9 Zine Interest Check!
Details:
Loosely halloween-themed (ie anything with halloween vibes, doesn't necessarily have to be about the holiday)
Mini zine! (not very long, won't require tons of entries)
Available digitally (and free!)
Printable formatting available (for self-printing if you so desire)
Eligable submissions: fanfic (under 5k), fan art, comics, manips, poems, basically anything that doesn't move or make sounds (ie needs to work on paper)
Teen+ rating or under (minor friendly!)
Low stakes!
Beginner artists/authors/whatever welcome!
Timeline: Halloween release
Reblogs appreciated!
#star trek#ds9#deep space nine#deep space 9#star trek deep space nine#star trek deep space 9#star trek zines#star trek fanzines#star trek fanart#star trek fanfiction#jadzia dax#nog#garashir#kiradax#tora ziyal#quark#odo#quodo#elim garak#julian bashir#benjamin sisko#idek#tc#sdfs
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What happens in the holosuites (every day) stays in the holosuites.
hey guys. what was this
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Here you are, @planetlongjourney
KIRA AND LITTLE MY NEED TO MEET, PARAMOUNT, YOU COWARDS!!!
#major kira nerys#kira nerys#fanart#lilla my#little my#ds9#moominvalley#mumin#star trek#moomin#moomin fanart#star trek ds9#ds9 kira#deep space nine#deep space 9#star trek fanart
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Bajorans are not immune to kitten cuteness...
My friend got this photo of me holding this precious stray kitten that lives near their house (which I... unofficially officially adopted) before heading off to a con.
#not technically kira#just a random bajoran militia officer in command#but nana visitor herself said I look just like kira#so I guess I'm kira now#face reveal?#kind of?#star trek#bajoran#star trek: ds9#star trek: deep space nine#star trek deep space 9#deep space nine#deep space 9#bajoran militia#cosplay#star trek cosplay#bajoran cosplay#kira nerys#kira nerys cosplay#major kira nerys#trekkie#trekkies#cat#kitten#kitty
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I can't stop thinking about what an incredible episode "Children of Time" was in how it explored a number of the characters, and I might expound on them later, but I'm particularly transfixed with Odo's arc. For the entirety of the series up to this point, his two defining personality traits are his sense of justice and his profound loneliness, and the writers used both of those to deliver a precision gut punch to the audience.
That profound loneliness is magnified in this 200-years-older version of Odo. He has been waiting and hoping for so long for this brief chance to see Kira again. He probably couldn't even hold his form when she died in his timeline, so he never had the opportunity to tell her how much she mattered to him, or even to say goodbye. He's been living with that for two centuries.
In light of that, what does the staunchness of his past self matter? What did it ever get him? That's why he's so quick to tell her how much he loved her. Loves her.
They get to spend a precious day and a half together before she decides she must sacrifice herself, and he begins desperately and hopelessly trying to convince her not to. Then he asks her: would things have been different between us if you'd known I loved you all along?
When she says "maybe," you can see his heart fucking break all over again. Because he suddenly knows what was possible, even by the slimmest chance, but he's losing her all over again- she has to be thrown 200 years in the past to die so he and his society can continue existing.
And then she kisses him!
SHE is the one who leans in for it!!
And that's the turning point. Because he knows that if she and the rest of the crew make it back to DS9, his past self has a fighting chance to escape the loneliness that has always defined him. His other self has the possibility of something better, even if he is bound to lose her either way. That's why this other Odo is willing to eliminate himself and everyone else on the planet from existence in order for Kira to live. So when everyone else is planning on a noble self-sacrifice, he chooses to be selfish for once.
(Arguably, making it so that 8000 people never existed isn't the same as killing them - one of the big moral quandries of the episode, but I wonder if Odo wouldn't have burned that whole planet to ashes if that's what it took to save her.)
When our Odo is linked with by the alternate timeline Odo, he suddenly knows everything. He knows every single person that lived on that planet. He knows the pain of living for 200 years filled with a regret and loneliness unlike he'd ever experienced before. He knows the fate he narrowly escaped (and was utterly helpless to have any control over). And he suddenly knows what it's like to kiss the woman he's been in love with for ages! And he understands. Because now he also knows hope. A hope so wonderful and so terrible that the other Odo would go to such great lengths for it.
That's why even in the face of Kira's outrage at the great injustice of it all, he can't give her a straight answer when she asks if he thinks what the other Odo did was right. Two hundred years of XP has just downloaded into his brain and is exerting its gravitational pull on his sense of just and unjust... Not to mention he's had his deepest secret revealed to the person who he least wanted to know.
Until now, he's never even opened his mouth about his own feelings because his sense of lawfulness extended to not even creating ripples on the surface of the social status quo. But he's suddenly been blursed with the understanding of how the other Odo has benefitted him. (Wingman of all time?)
The tension between what he's always thought is right and what his gut is telling him he wants now is so delicious to me. His sense of justice is suddenly much more flexible than he ever thought because of the possibility of not being lonely anymore. Finally belonging. It's maybe the most humanizing experience the audience has seen him go through - even more so than being stuck as a solid for a while, I think.
#screaming crying throwing up#am i sick for thinking this is so romantic?#i want to be loved so much that it would justify the elimination of 8000 people's existence lmao (not really but really)#star trek#ds9#deep space nine#odo#kira nerys#children of time#personal#text#star trek ds9#deep space 9#analysis
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Alexander "I play all my characters slightly gay" Siddig
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine "Profit and Loss"
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#pinback button#button#collage art#pin#flair#button badges#queer artist#star trek ds9#star trek: deep space 9#star trek deep space nine#ds9#st ds9#deep space nine#deep space 9#star trek collage
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Things that are going to happen in 2024 according to Star Trek:
1) the absolutely giant homeless-population of the USA (or was is just New York? Idk, I‘m from Europe) is going to start a civil-war fighting against the upper class and police.
2) Ireland is going to get united
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Deep Space Nine is thirty two years old today! Happy birthday to the show that fixed me AND made me worse
#deep space nine contains multitudes#star trek#trekposting#star trek ds9#ds9#star trek deep space nine#deep space nine#deep space 9#32nd birthday
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most relatable character ➣ Julian Bashir STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE (1993-1999)
#startrekedit#trekedit#scifiedit#tvedit#ds9edit#star trek#ds9#deep space nine#deep space 9#julian bashir#alexander siddig#userarmchair#*#my gifs#i nominated him most relatable character myself there was no poll sorry
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I Just finished watching through DS 9 for the first time, and I want to thank you for your part in creating it.
Thanks for the kind words! I was lucky to be a small part of an incredible team. It was a dream job, especially for my first time on staff. I'd great to hear that DS9 still holds up after all these years.
#tv writing#ask me anything#ask me stuff#star trek#ds9#star trek ds9#deep space nine#star trek deep space nine#deep space 9#star trek deep space 9
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Kira: Aren't you a woman? Jadzia: I'm Trill so I can't answer that without five historians and an anthropologist present.
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