#David Suzuki

[entheognosis]

[noosphe-re]

Bohm: Now, the ordinary idea of matter is: it’s an object which exists external to other objects, passes through space continuously, goes from here to there, and connects up with other objects. Makes the whole that way. Now, to just give the idea of what I mean: I saw once on BBC television a device which I realized would be very useful for my purposes. It was made at the Royal Institution in London, and it consisted of two glass cylinders, concentric, one inside the other. The inner one was held fixed, and the outer one turned slowly, and you placed a very viscous fluid such as glycerin in between the two cylinders. Now, as you turn the outer cylinder, the glycerin on the outside is turning, the glycerin on the inside is fixed, and in between it’s moving at an intermediate rate. So if you took a small bit of glycerin it would slowly get drawn out into a thread. Is that clear?

Suzuki: No, you’ve got glycerin in your tube, in your cylinder, and then you put a drop of...

Bohm: The next stage is to put a drop of insoluble ink, which consists of particles of carbon, for example.

Suzuki: So you can see this drop suspended in the glycerin.

Bohm: And each particle of carbon is now carried along by the glycerin at the speed of the glycerin. And since the outer parts of the glycerin move faster, the particles of carbon are carried apart. Eventually they become so fine as to be invisible, right? Now, you then turn this machine around slowly, and the particles retrace their paths, and suddenly it forms a drop, again, of glycerin, right? And that actually happens. I saw this happening for the first time there when it was shown on the program.

Now, I propose now that this droplet has been folded into the glycerin, right? And it is then unfolded. Now I want to say that that sort of process helps to explain the behavior of particles. It’s only an analogy; we mustn’t take it too literally. But for example, suppose I put two droplets in, one next to or near the other, and I fold it up. Now, the particles from one droplet are going to sort of mix with the particles of the other, so they’re indistinguishable. Yet, if we turn the machine around, each particle seems to know where it must go and it goes backward to help form its own droplet again, right?

Suzuki: Now, what does that illustrate?

Bohm: Well, that illustrates a new order, because… see, if we put in a number of droplets in a row, you have an order, right? And we could pull them all up. The order seems to be absent, but it’s still present, because when you unfold it it’ll all come right out again. So I say there’s a non-manifest order. There’s an implicate, enfolded order, right?

Suzuki: Okay.

Bohm: I say that that notion of order is a different notion of order from the one which science has been using, which is the unfolded or explicate order, in which we say only things outside each other count and only external relationships of things outside each other are to be part of the fundamental laws of physics.

David Bohm, interviewed by David Suzuki, 1979 (video, transcript)

[climatecalling]

Amid the gloom, Suzuki sees cause to keep fighting. He traces humanity’s plight back to the Renaissance, when he says we lost the idea that we are embedded as a strand of nature dependent on everything around us – plants, animals, air, water, soil and sunlight – and instead placed ourselves at the top of a pyramid with everything else beneath us. He says this idea has only strengthened since the Industrial Revolution, but can be reversed. “We’ve always tried to justify what we’re doing by saying it’s not going to destroy the economy, so we’re all operating within this pyramid idea. That’s been the fundamental failure, I think, of environmentalists, including me – that we haven’t been able to get across the idea that the systems we’ve developed are themselves limited and responsible for the destruction,” he says. “We’ve got to break out of that, and stop elevating the economy, our politics, our legal systems, as if they come before anything else.” It is easy for this to sound hopeless. Suzuki cites the scientific consensus that reverberations from what’s already been done will continue for centuries, if not longer, even if emissions stop immediately. He expects the future response will probably include a shift towards self-sufficient local communities, disconnected from the global economy and focused on survival. But he isn’t interested in hopelessness, and stresses “we don’t know enough to say it’s too late”. All action now makes a difference. “I say despair is a luxury we can’t afford any longer,” he says when asked how he remains positive. “If you care at all about your children or grandchildren, then it seems to me you have no choice but to try. My hope is that trying shows that we believe there is a different possibility – that we can make a difference.

[larimar]

"Each person, group or organization working toward a different world may seem powerless and insignificant, but all of them can add up to a force that can become irresistible."

David Suzuki

[oldshowbiz]

Flintstone Vitamins

[thunderstar-supernova]

Gripping you by the skull. You want to look at my little freak of a man. You want to show everyone my little freak of a man.

my favorite little thing.

[julesofnature]

The way we see the world shapes the way we treat it. If a mountain is a deity, not a pile of ore; if a river is one of the veins of the land, not potential irrigation water; if a forest is a sacred grove, not timber; if other species are biological kin, not resources; or if the planet is our mother, not an opportunity - then we will treat each other with greater respect. Thus is the challenge, to look at the world from a different perspective.

David Suzuki

[hedgewitchgarden]

"The way we see the world shapes the way we treat it. If a mountain is a deity, not a pile of ore; if a river is one of the veins of the land, not potential irrigation water; if a forest is a sacred grove, not timber; if other species are biological kin, not resources; or if the planet is our mother, not an opportunity - then we will treat each other with greater respect. Thus is the challenge, to look at the world from a different perspective." ~ David Suzuki

[universoulreiki]

[lovesinistra]

[entheognosis]

[beyourselfchulanmaria]

The way we see the world shapes the way we treat it. If a mountain is a deity, not a pile of ore.. if a forest is a sacred grove, not timber; if other species are biological kin, not resources; or if the planet is our mother, not an opportunity -- then we will treat each other with greater respect. Thus is the challenge, to look at the world from a different perspective.

- David Suzuki -

[postersbykeith]

[nando161mando]

"During my recent visit to Canada I had the chance to meet renowned scientist, broadcaster and environmental activist David Suzuki as well as his daughter and fellow-activist Severn Cullis-Suzuki. So I asked them a bunch of questions for the Juice Media Podcast. I hope you enjoy it.

This is the companion podcast to our latest Honest Government Ad about Canada 🇨🇦 "

[oldshowbiz]

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