#David Koresh

[lettherightrobin]

guns of the branch davidian cult

vhs, 1991

[slavicgerman]

[theexodvs]

“Cult” (n.) and “cultic” (adj.)

There is great confusion when describing certain groups and movements as "cultic." Since the most famous examples of cultic groups and movements in living memory include the Manson Family, People’s Temple, the Branch Davidians and Heaven’s Gate, the popular conception of a cult has become a centralized group with one leader with a type-A personality. This is not how most cultic groups take shape.

"Cultic" and "centralized" are not synonyms. They are entirely different concepts, and whether one group or movement is one has no bearing whatsoever on whether it is the other.

The United Pentecostal Church International and Pentecostal Assemblies of the World are both cults. They are part of the Oneness Pentecostal movement*. Note, the UPCI and PAW are not in fellowship with each other and have no official relations. This is because this movement is decentralized, encompassing various different groups that are united in few if any ways besides (some) similar teachings. Whatever leadership and governance model they have, shared or contrasting, is secondary, because Oneness Pentecostalism as a set of doctrines is itself cultic, meaning any group that espouses it is a cult by definition.

Christian Identity is a more pronounced example of a cultic movement that is decentralized. It is a white supremacist group that teaches that white people are the descendants of the ancient Israelites, and that "gentiles" (people who aren't white) can never be saved. Its footprint is almost entirely made of websites, prison gangs, and local congregations, which are not in fellowship with each other or with any larger group. I would hope any decent person would be opposed to this movement and its teachings, but an attempt to treat "cultic" and "centralized" as synonyms might keep one from recognizing CI as something that should be avoided.

Other decentralized movements that are cultic include the Word of Faith movement, the Men's Right Movement, dispensationalism, neurodiversity, the Sovereign Citizens movement, BDSM, the New IFB, kinism, and the Black Hebrew Israelites. Every group that is part of these is a cult, thought they may not be in fellowship with other groups within the same movement.

*The Oneness Pentecostal movement is not representative of Pentecostalism as a whole. Most of the world's Pentecostals belong to the Assemblies of God which has taught the Trinity for its entire existence. Pentecostalism is not necessarily cultic. Oneness Pentecostalism is.

[reality-detective]

After watching this video and seeing Bill Clinton, the FBI, and that it says that the whole thing was seen on TV. Now I am questioning the whole thing, especially after listening to the pastor and Peter in that 7 part series I posted.

Was David Karesh really a bad person? Why did the government want him dead so bad? The 7 part videos said he was going to expose Bush Sr, Dick Chaney and Bill Clinton as being pedophiles and human traffickers.

Why did the government destroy all evidence on the premises? These pedophiles were trading government weapons for drugs and children with the drug cartels. That most certainly would not have gone well for them.

Why was it a 51 day stand out? I guess the government had to make David Karesh the evil and mean one in the eyes of the public, so the people believed he was a psychopath... Correct?

Knowing what I know now... This was a catastrophic event and was most definitely a lie perpetrated by the deep state. 🤔

[surfingkaliyuga]

“Waco” David Palumbo 2018 Illustration for the April issue of Texas Monthly.

[moondollk]

made this rn bc why not

[mitchfynde]

"I can't believe you'd ever even think about political violence" says the group of people that idolizes every person featured in Count Dankula's "Absolute Mad Lads" series. "I can't believe you'd ever think about killing people" says the group that drools over the death of any member of the FBI / ATF and unironically believes that David Koresh and the Branch Davidians were the good guys.

[imkeepinit]

[ineedlovein]

hi!

happy holidays! how are you ?

i was wondering do you have any anecdotes or little stories that you love about david koresh or something not a lot of people know about him but that you feel like should be talked about more ?

i love hearing people talk about the one they love so you can share as much as you want <3

yes , hello ! happy wednesday , lol !! hope you are experiencing nothing but blessings today !!

hmm , now this is a fun one . personally i have many that not many have heard about so im willing to share some of those , but on the topic of favorite ? that narrows them down LOL !!

rodger (davids brother) told me one of when he was younger , him and david were bickering which resulted in david chasing him around the house , ultimately tackling him and having him pinned , and forced rodger to say hes the best 😭 what a little punk . another one is an account of david having a heated episode at mt carmel , i believe david bunds told this one , and he was found just scarfing down carrot cake to cope & calm down . another funny one is during the siege , david flashed the atf agents from one of the windows while eating a bowl of ramen . theres also the story of when david was real little he went to a school talent show , he was bragging like crazy telling everyone how good he was at guitar . keep in mind , this guitar was given to him on his birthday & the poor boy didnt know you had to tune the guitar so he learned how to play with it untuned . so coming up on the day of playing , a student checked out the guitar and said “hey let me tune this for you” … sadly david let him . when he got infront of everyone he tried playing & everyone laughed at him because it sounded terrible & he thought the kid broke it . also the story of him playing cowboys & indians around the house when he was tiny , photo of that :

urghh too many to think of , but those are just a few <3 i hope you enjoyed !! MWAH !!

[tilbageidanmark]

(All the other memes I made..)

[lettherightrobin]

mt. carmel

waco, texas

before and after the siege

vhs, 1991

[girl-xinterrupted]

Visit to Mt. Carmel. Such an erie experience.

[burningpysche]

he had bitches...

[reality-detective]

Part 1 - Waco Texas - David Koresh 👇

I follow this independent journalist, she calls her channel "Watch The Water" who goes down Rabbit 🐇 Holes 🕳️ and in her investigative work she does interviews. In this 7 part series she finds the truth about David Koresh and the Davidian Compound in Waco, Texas. It actually seeps into other corruption including George Bush, Chip and Joanna Gaines, Baylor University and Bill Clinton. 🤔

[moondollk]

David Koresh-

[finemaleactors]

Taylor Kitsch in Waco