#Dancole mcd

[garussy]

Dante is THE littlest brother of all time

This man was babied by Aphmau and Garroth and ruthlessly bullied by Laurance

Aphmau braided his hair and dressed him up in all of the fancy dresses Cadenza made her

She doesn’t remember having a childhood but she knows from watching Alexis and Leona play with Kyle, Levin, Malachi, and Yip that it’s a right of passage to dress your brother up in princess dresses

They introduce him as their baby brother

He is 6’3” something next to an itty bitty woman but he is her tiny little baby brother

He only looks like a little brother next to Garroth and Laurance and barely with Laurance

He is the Phoenix Drop baby brother

They don’t care if he is older than some of the residents he is the baby brother

Nicole and Nana both got the “if you hurt my baby brother” talk but it honestly didn’t scare either of them

Nicole knows no fear as a young adult and Nana was a grown woman with a husband, daughter, and step son she is not going to break Dante’s heart

[darlinglledawn]

:((

[danteashida]

I think Nicole being a poor parent to Dmitri is actually pretty interesting ngl (aside from the physical abuse..). Not in a support women's wrongs way but like, I think if it was written in a better way it would've worked so much better and wouldn't be a complaint people have about Nicole's character.

Like, her treatment of Dmitri stemming from something that he can't even control, looking like his father Dante, Nicole starting to project onto him because she can't stand being reminded of her past lover that she still loves but isn't there, the resentment of having moved on so quick from what they had. as long as she looks at Dmitri it's just something she can't move past because of her own selfish action of refusing to face Dante or anyone in Phoenix Drop because she doesn't want to let go of what once was .. i love mommy issues and messy people yum.

[shadowqnights]

am i the only fucker still shipping mcd dancole where is everyone

[the-martyrfication-of-the-matron]

Tw, pedophilia, grooming, the cycle of abuse and how all three themes associate with Amaranth

(TW tags were removed because they were causing me issues with tumblr, please make the informed decision to scroll past if you know these things will cause you any issues or harm)

I want to make a post about this quickly since it was brought to my attention that former posts of mine are justifying Dancole in amaranth, and whilst I don’t know what posts these are and so can’t delete them before any more damage is done, I can address it.

As of right now, there is no Dancole in Amaranth. Not in the shipping sense.

Dante and Nicole do engage in a relationship but it is one that is meant to be wrong. It is one that both the narrative and the characters that know of it will address is wrong, and one that Dante and Nicole will eventually have to address themselves.

The age gap started as a mistake correlating with lore but, upon joking about it with a friend, they made a comment about the cycle of abuse and how Nicole was partaking in it, which is something I decided would be an interesting topic to address in Amaranth, as I already am with characters like Zane.

Nicole and Dante isn’t the first morally wrong relationship to have been mentioned to occur in Amaranth. Nicole and Garroth, which was never romantic but is extremely pressured to happen by multiple characters, began when Nicole was a minor, and Garroth was not. Garcole isn’t a ship, it’s a relationship that was going to happen and was stopped because the adult involved knew it was wrong and didn’t want to partake in it.

So I was intending on making Nicole’s trauma an ongoing thing. Being a child groomed into marriage with an adult is a traumatising event, and if not it at least leaves that child conditioned until someone undoes that conditioning for them. Nicole engages in her relationship with Dante because she doesn’t realise that it isn’t okay for her to do so. She was told that it was okay for her to marry an adult as a child so why can’t she, as an adult, engage in a relationship with someone as much younger than her than Dante is? And Dante is a child, he doesn’t realise what’s happening isn’t okay until someone else steps in.

I Never planned on talking about Dancole until it was addressed in Amaranth because it’s a sensitive issue I would need to research, write, proofread, sensitivity read, edit and so on to make sure it was portrayed appropriately, but I don’t want people to assume I’m thinking this relationship is okay.

I realise that this doesn’t make up for whatever I have said in the past, I know it’s not good enough to just explain what is happening now if I really had been justifying it back then. I never meant to be make anyone uncomfortable, or glorify pedophilia, but if that is what I did I am so so sorry.

[aphverse-confessions]

Nicole and Dante don’t have confirmed ages, however they do have implied ages that leave the impression of an age gap. Nicole and Garroth were fiancés multiple years ago (Zane gave a more specific number when he confronted Garroth aftwr Donna and Logan’s wedding, I just don’t remember what), and when he was met Dante was fresh out of the guard academy (which most assume to mean somewhere within the 18-22 age range) which means he is implied to be years younger than Garroth and Laurence since they have been guards for years.

So with all this information, it just leaves a handful of interpretations.

Nicole is Garroth’s age, being years older than Dante. This is what a lot of people assume, and lead some to having issues with MCD Dancole because of that gap

Garroth was engaged to Nicole when she was Much younger than him (which honestly given the fantasy medieval vibes MCD has, wouldn’t be a large leap in logic)

Or Dante was simply a lot older than most when he joined the guard academy (although this may contradict what he tells Aphmau about his home life and having to be raised by his aunt and uncle, but I don’t remember it enough to confidently say this Cant be true)

Most go with the first one, since it’s the most straight forward assumption abd Dante does give off big little brother vibes in the original season one guard trio. So yeah. There is no Confirmed ages, but y’all. Just think a little bit about what we know about the characters and where they are in life when we meet them and you can actually take a pretty decent guess at some sort of age range.

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[dryya-doesnt]

What are your mystreet ships?

Aarmau, but it’s getting over saturated in Jess’ content

I like dancole bc Dante fumbled again.

I’m more invested in MCD than mystreet tbh I love my high fantasy high stakes medieval worldbuilding. But then again, mystreet is also intense in the later seasons 💀

[queen-of-the-idiots]

I feel like you can tell what series an Aphmau fan has watched based on who they ship, and specifically who they ship Aphmau with. Laurmau? Season one, MCD. Garmau? Seasons one and two, MCD. Aarmau? MyStreet only. Travlyn could be MCD or MyStreet, but it’s most likely MyStreet. Zane-Chan/Zana is another MyStreet only thing. Dancole or Dan-Chan means that you watched Season 2 of MCD, and probably didn’t enjoy MyStreet as much. This obviously isn’t set in stone, but I think I’m on to something here.

[t4tdanvis]

2, 17, 22, and 29 for the aph ask game!!

02. favorite main character, side-character, ship, and villain?

(all of these are from mystreet i do not know enough about the actual lore of mcd to give favorite anything for that LOL)

main character - honestly? nana. i love her :>

side character - is dante a side character? i would consider him a side character for most of the series. but yeah him (and if he doesnt count, probably michi if she counts)

ship - i cant decide between vylene and danvis. if shipping too many gay ships is a crime then *holds out wrists* lock me up!!

villain - i love ein so much i support transmasc rights AND wrongs <3

17. any headcanons you're attached to?

far too many. just to name a few: gene having freckles, aroace aphmau, dante being obsessed with video games, travis being a system, gene having been blonde as a baby, vylad + aphmau being childhood besties, also dante + travis being childhood besties, travis playing the guitar, vylad doing roller derby, literally 99% of the cast being trans in some way... the list goes on. i am attached to many many headcanons an unhealthy amount and i am happy to talk about any of them

22. who's the character that you most identify with and why?

saying travis would be a cop-out because i am a fictive of him, so i will go with nana. i too turned to fandom and shipping and used it to cope an unhealthy amount with things i went through as a child + made my childhood online name center around something very weird and dumb. she just like me fr

29. any general unpopular opinions?

mys gene did nothing wrong actually. jess portrayed him incorrectly. i look at any of the shit he did in pdh and i go "he would NOT fucking do that". my "in this essay i will" is that laurance could and would be more toxic in laurgene than gene would be

also nana is a lesbian in every universe ok? ok. i do not care what canon says. she told me herself shes a lesbian. zane is transfem and zanechan is sapphic. ok?

i dont really have any other unpopular opinions. i do think travlyn sucks ass and is terrible but like. thats not even an opinion its just canon their relationship is awful LOL. danvis and katecole are infinitely better than dancole and travlyn do yuo hear me

[xerith-42]

Oh! Probably characters from Season 3 like Lo and Liochant, and other characters I would know if I watched season 3 recently. I don't know if Dmitri ever makes an appearance since Dancole is so dead in MyS it's not even funny, basically all of the villagers from Phoenix Drop (Dale, Molly, Brian, Corey, Emma), Azura doesn't exist which is sad and we should change that posthaste. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Logan and Donna were ever adapted, Ulrich and Glenda (S1 Meteli guards) don't exist in MyS, and I don't think we ever see Joh or Hayden in the series, even if they're alluded to. Amber and her boss don't make an appearance as a Mafia boss and her girlfail henchman and I think that's cringe (she could have toxic yuri with Elizabeth).

There's probably a lot of other side characters who were in one off scenes, or served very minor roles that weren't needed in MyS so they weren't brought over, but MCD is a bit world with a lot of irrelevant characters. I really just went for the ones I could name.

I’m curious, are there any characters in MyStreet that are distinctly NOT in MCD?

For example, are Sylvanna and Ein in MCD? Or are they original to MyStreet?

[dantes-gf]

This is gonna be bulleted and short bc I have trouble writing long stuff without overdoing analyzing, this is the dancole thing - DD anon

Nicole is seen at multiple points manipulating Dante in different ways. Specifically gaslighting, bodyshaming, and threats, as well as just regular emotional manipulation. She essentially refuses to let Dante break up with her. Every time he tries he gets a different tactic.

The first clip I found was Nicole turning Dante’s gentle attempt to breakup into bodyshaming him. He says “I can’t see this working out in the future” and she responds by agreeing because he’s gained weight and being all around difficult, resulting in his attempt to break up failing.

The second clip was Nicole saying she loves him, emotionally manipulating Dante into not wanting to leave her when he tries to break up with her. Dante doesn’t want to hurt her, but she refuses to let him leave her even when he tries to.

The third clip was them on what looked like a date at Love-love para, where she says, and I quote, “if you’re hiding something horrible, you should just tell me now so I don’t have to hunt you down and hurt you later.” She was correct he was hiding something, but she had no idea he was cheating at this point, this was purely based off him acting a bit odd. This is also in public, so I’d have no problem seeing Nicole using worse threats behind closed doors.

Also, considering the girls are all automatically on Nicole’s side when they find out about cheating, and Katelyn’s own disregard of her treatment of Travis, it’s not unlikely to say he may have tried to say something to someone and was promptly told he was either lying or exaggerating.

I think what should’ve happened, if I have to still make use of it for character development, use it to further Zane’s “not a bad person, just cold” thing.

Dante and Zane are roommates in LLP. Dante canonically talks to him about his relationship problems. If Nicole were to try and use his being unfaithful to manipulate him into something else, Zane would be a good person to help him.

Zane’s not a nice person. He’s not warm and he’s not really kind most of the time. But he is not the type of person to recognize abuse and not say anything about it. He won’t do anything until he has to because he hasn’t been asked to do anything.

When Zane bluntly calls her out for what she’s doing, Nicole would likely object and say he’s lying or Dante’s making it up, except Zane has no motives around him. Dante wouldn’t need to alienate Nicole from Zane and Zane doesn’t have anything against her.

Zane would also get solid backup from others, because Garroth knows his baby brother, Aaron knows Dante, (screw canon) Aphmau is not someone who’d call a victim a liar without proper proof, and obviously Travis isn’t going to call Dante a liar.

Katelyn would be the only one to side with Nicole, which could also be used to point out her continued physical abuse of Travis. Either she can lose her friend group, or she can admit that Nicole is abusive and that she herself needs to stop using physical violence to release her anger.

tw / abuse and extremely toxic relationships

while obviously it’s an issue with dante and nicole, i feel like almost every single one of the relationships in aphverse are just a mess of lowkey abusive behaviors. especially travlyn and dancole.

i think it all roots back to jess and her own relationship situation and probably the media she’s consumed over the years that make her view these borderline abusive relationships as love.

i think it’s just awful that we have characters such as katelyn and nicole who are presented as the tough girl stereotype, the ones who like don’t take any shit, but they’re not “tough” girls, they’re just mean and hurtful and SERIOUSLY rooted in the “i’m not like other girls” character type.

and yes i know this ask is about dante and nicole and i didn’t even realize the stuff she said/did that was just horrible but katelyn really is just Awfully written. she’s mean and just punches people?? all the time?? and i don’t remember too much of dante and nicole i won’t lie but it seems she isn’t too far off from katelyn’s writing…

[darlinglledawn]

It’s Over Isn’t It is so mcd dancole that their voice actors sang it themselves

[garrothuwu-blog]

Tell me if this is to flashy I’m trying something new

[shadowqnights]

noone gets dancole (mcd but also mys) like i do uurahghh RAHGHHHHHH

[the-martyrfication-of-the-matron]

I had a lot of trouble phrasing this, I’m very sorry if it comes off as overly critical of your rewrite or your plans for it. I’m just concerned about how this is being handled.

Is Nicole going to be condemned for what she does? I understand it’s the cycle of abuse and Nicole isn’t doing what she’s doing because she’s a bad person at heart or something like that, but that doesn’t really reduce the harm or fault in the situation even if it provides context for her actions.

That’s not even mentioning the balancing act that sounds like. I can’t think of a way that Dancole wouldn’t be uncomfortable because from what I gathered (please correct me if I’m wrong) Nicole tries to get with Dante when he’s a minor and then later actually gets with him when he’s an adult. I can’t see how Nicole could stay a ‘good guy’ character after trying to date him as a minor, let alone see how her dating him as an adult could be handled well.

Tw, grooming, pedophilia, the cycle of abuse and how the themes correlate to Amaranth

Dw about sounding critical! This is a sensitive topic so I completely understand any kind of critical tone that comes with discussing it. It’s part of the deal with writing this stuff that criticism is expected.

One of the reasons I didn’t want to discuss these events happening in Amaranth yet is because I haven’t fully figured it out yet and they are subject to change with ever piece of media I consume or conversation I have, or simply just if im left alone to think for too long. That’s why my most recent posts about Dante and Nicole’s relationship were from about a year ago.

Most things I’ve said about Dante and Nicole’s relationship pre-recent discussion don’t apply. Nicole and Dante never date as adults, and in fact Nicole never steps foot in Phoenix Drop between the last chapter of Amaranth season 2 and beyond, despite the 15 year gap and all the time after that. Their relationship, which is how I will be referring to it due to a lack of better terms coming to mind though it isn’t at all to be considered genuinely romantic, lasts for all about a week during the events of Amaranth s2, and despite its brevity, it was a very bad situation and Nicole does face repercussions. Those of which I am still trying to figure out, as it’s a difficult spot to try and navigate.

By the time Nicole would face the punishments for her actions, it’s is known she is the heiress of Scaleswind. It’s known that she has immense amounts of power of Ru’Aun and that no physical harm can come to her. They couldn’t even imprison her without inviting another war. So far, the list of punishments ends with permanent exile, and to cut off contact with Dante entirely. The only conversation she should ever have with him is regarding politics and nothing beyond that. Even Dmitri isn’t a topic she is allowed to bring up with him. But of course I am considering other punishments as well as to leave it at ‘oh you can’t be here anymore’ feels too little for what she did.

But aside from it being written that she is very clearly in the wrong despite her lack of understanding, and a conversation she has with Garroth, it’s hard to try and figure out how to make it clear her actions aren’t forgivable. That’s why I wanted to wait until I had done some research to really talk about it, alongside other things of course. Because I’m still figuring out the finer details.

But, to simplify, Nicole isn’t going to be treated like a good person afterwards. It’ll be clear that Nicole is someone who did good things, but they don’t negate the bad. She’s going to be punished for what she did, and it’ll never be stated that what she did was okay.

Talking about the cycle of abuse doesn’t mean that the people that are caught in it are innocent, it means they’re victims as well, and that the only way for the cycle to be broken and to make sure no one else is hurt, is to make sure that victims are given the proper means of healing and coming to terms with what happened to them. It’s why Zane is still considered a villain even though his actions are a result of the abuse he experienced. Because he was never given the chance to heal from his abuse, he abused other people. He is not a good person, his actions are his own, but there is a reason for them and if he had been able to properly heal, or if the reasons didn’t exist at all, he wouldn’t have done what he did. And the same goes for Nicole. Both characters will be treated the same way in this regard. Zane will be held accountable for what he has done, Nicole will be held accountable for what she has done, because even if there are reasons for what they have done, there are also victims.

If anything I said here isn’t clear or makes it seem like I’m justifying anything, please let me know. And if you have any questions or criticisms about how I’m handling it, I’m more than happy to receive them. I wouldn’t post this stuff if I wasn’t open to actually discussing it.

Also yes, this makes Dmitri 15 in season 3. Older than canon but I don’t want to have Dancole happen again so it’s a needed change.

[aphstruggleposts]

ngl the mcd struggle was when every ship i shipped in mcd were not canon Garmau Dancole Brendan-chan and whats even more of a struggle is knowing im gonna see this again in the remake

I’m so sorry anon can we get some fs in chat