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Can't You Take a Joke, Damian Loeb, 2004
Oil on linen 96 ⅛ x 107 ⅞ in. (244 x 274 cm)
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Atmosphere (Warm Fingers), 2010 (oil on linen) by Damian Loeb
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Most ass Batman comic ever incoming?
Yes this is the preview for Hush 2.
We're lucky Jeph Loeb prefers Babs as Batgirl because this could've been a lot worse if Cass was here.
Feel bad for Damian and Talia fans tho.
#barbara gordon#talia al ghul#damian wayne#batman#bruce wayne#dick grayson#batgirl#nightwing#robin dc#dc comics#jeph loeb#hush 2
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Zdarsky getting swapped for Loeb is literally the most frustrating choice like call me pessimistic but based on Loeb's history it feels like instead of Cass having the personality of a cardboard cutout and getting forced to job for batgod Bruce she'll either be nonexistent at best or just subjected to horrible racist writing at worst. Thank fuck for Birds of Prey and her new solo. I'm open to giving Taylor a shot at Tec even though I don't think I'll enjoy it as much as Ram V's run, but for the Zdarsky swap I'm probably going to just continue to ignore the mediocrity that is the current Batman run.
#dc#dc rambles#Loeb is such a weirdo like he's not even a regular white American racist like Tom King he just really specifically hates Asian people#and as someone who's two favourite batfam characters are cass and talia this is uh. pretty awful news#damn i didn't even think of the damian factor I wonder will loeb just whitewash him completely or continue the shitty robin tim propaganda
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A brief recap of all recent Dick-related news ⏬
▶️ Announced Batman The Long Halloween: The Last Halloween, a ten parts sequel to both Batman: The Long Halloween and Batman: Dark Victory, by writer Jeph Loeb and a cast of rotating artists such as Klaus Janson, Mark Chiarello and other unnamed ones.
Here’s the summary:
“Gotham City learns to fear Halloween once more as a terrible event threatens to destroy Jim Gordon’s life and puts Batman and Robin’s teamwork to the test more than ever before. In a city of liars, masked vigilantes, and criminals…can anyone be trusted?”
▶️ According to Mark Waid, Dick will be one of the major characters in the upcoming Absolute Power event and the leader of the resistance. Other characters confirmed to be prominent or have spotlight moments are the leaguers, Dreamer and Jon Kent. Less prominent characters are hinted to play important roles too, but have yet to be named. Absolute Power #1 will be released on July 2.
I highly recommend all Nightwing fans to give the event a chance, not only for Waid and Mora’s brilliant partnership and for potential big changes coming, but because of how good Waid is at writing Dick in particular; he has Dick’s voice to a T, and core knowledge of the character, on top of being a good writer.
Batfamily fans might want to check it out too, Bruce will obviously be an important character in the event. Tim, Damian and Jason have all been spotted in some of the covers, and while we don't know the extent of their involvement, Damian has been seen in the trailer of Absolute Power with Bruce and will have a team up with Diana in Wonder Woman #12, which ties into the event. Tim seems to be a part of Dick’s team in Absolute Power: Task Force VII #4 too.
#dc comics#dick grayson#nightwing#bruce wayne#batman#damian wayne#robin#tim drake#jason todd#batfamily#I’m tagging the other robins + bruce because of the absolute power part involving them
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it’s really disappointing when transformative works reflect the bad elements of the original works
i was reading about jeph loeb’s (consciously) racist exclusion of cass cain from hush, and all i can think about is how that continues, even two decades on, even in fan works. i won’t get into babs and steph and helena and kate, but cass is particularly insidious because she’s literally bruce’s kid. she’s been a wayne longer than jason (prior to his resurrection), and been in gotham longer than damian. her exclusion is purposeful, harmful, and sad. she’s not a difficult character to understand or write about, u just have to give enough of a shit to try.
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Okay, general roundup of New 52 titles I have read so far, now I am well into 2013 in my read through:-
Batwoman, J.H. Williams run – genuinely great. This is a highlight of the New 52, honestly. If DC had stopped occasionally remembering that Kate Kane is now Bruce’s cousin and had let Kate and Maggie get married, it would be perfect.
Blue Beetle – it’s not the best Jaime run I’ve ever read, but in terms of restructuring Jaime’s origin to simplify it and remove the heavy connection with Infinite Crisis shenanigans, it worked far better than the Rebirth reboot. Let down by getting cancelled just as it started becoming more interesting (aka had finally finished the retread of Jaime’s origin story and started him having new adventures).
Threshold – this was certainly a comic I read entirely to see Jaime in it. If you are lucky enough to know nothing about it, it’s basically a planet of foxhunting tagged ‘criminals’, where Jaime ends up one of the tagged. It’s meandering, pointless and bad. I think if you’re a Lantern fan you’d also think it was bad. Deservedly knocked off after 8 issues.
Justice League Dark – I made it through 6 issues. My biggest takeaways were that everyone here was just so miserable and Boston Brand was dating Dawn Granger for reasons that surpassed understanding. I want to like it more than I do, for the cast it has.
Batgirl, Gail Simone run – appealing and infuriating in turn. There’s some genuinely beautiful writing here (the WWII paper balloons!) and Babs is recognisable as Babs, but it’s horribly let down by the fact that ‘healing’ Barbara means that she’s now both not allowed to operate as Oracle (by editorial dictat) AND she’s having trouble as a street vigilante as she’s still recovering from her injuries. It makes sense but it also makes Barbara doubly incompetent which is maddening as they’ve taken away everything that was hers specifically. Also James Gordon Jnr is always intensely irritating to have around and I am never going to get over giving Babs a villain called ‘Knightfall’ in the run immediately after healing her back. Yes. I got the reference. It’s not that funny.
Birds of Prey – it’s hmmm still finding its feet. Lacks the soul of the original run, but there are flashes of the old magic occasionally. It is hilarious to me that they decided to merge Dinah Drake and Dinah Lance back into a single character for this run, creating a bizarre new ex-husband for Dinah in Kurt Lance (seriously, Kurt Lance, why do you exist you’re so weird) and then within 6 issues or so abruptly realised WHY Dinah Drake and Dinah Lance have been separate characters since 1983 and reinvented a new Dinah Drake mother for the character. Spectacular. Sheer evidence that nobody involved in new 52 was actually spending much time thinking about how an all new origin reboot would affect characterisation.
Batman – I have my differences with Scott Snyder over his run, but he at least manages to make things interesting and spend time interrogating Bruce’s identity. It feels in conversation with the Loeb and Dini storylines around Thomas Elliot and that whole crowd of elite Gothamites. Lots of interesting set ups let down by execution or obsession with conspiracy theories. Love his work with Harper Row as a character.
Batman & Robin – okay folk, I do agree, this is a far far better Batman & Robin run than 2009. I feel like I’ve spent more time with Damian showing me his character rather than being informed by Morrison via Alfred mouthpiece about Damian’s character. There’s some lovely character work in here. It’s still suffering from getting New 52ed but it’s honestly the first run anywhere that’s actually really good for Damian characterisation (plus or minus the Damian and Colin Wilkes fight Zsasz plot in Streets of Gotham or Gates of Gotham).
Batman Incorporated – fuck you Grant Morrison. Nobody reading this title is having a good time. If you’re here for actual Batman Inc characters well I’m sorry, they’re mostly standing around the sidelines of a plot about Bruce, Talia and Damian. If you’re here for Talia I’m so sorry for you. If you’re here to read Bruce and/or Damian you get like 3-4 sweet scenes that I am sure you have already seen in screencapped panels floating around with no context. DC would be a better place if this book hadn’t been approved (also Cyril might still be alive)
Nightwing – this comic so far is obsessed with Haly’s Circus. Now I don’t like the whole Talon retcon (I think it cheapens a lot of things about Dick’s backstory as a character) but I will admit it’s nice to see Dick spending time with his Haly’s Circus friends and Dick’s optimistic side coming out in the ‘let’s just rebuild Amusement Mile as a place that isn’t Joker-haunted!’ Tragically of course because we’re never allowed to have nice plotlines involving Haly’s Circus it gets blown up again and lots of people die. But at least Dick’s back to owning the circus, amirite? (For bizarre ‘Pop Haly left it to him in his will’ reasons rather than Dick buying it out with his inheritance money that is totally not one of the many occasions Bruce has lied to Dick and told him that this trust fund is 100% based on investments of his parents assets, rather than Bruce attempting to give Dick Wayne money again so he stops living out of cardboard boxes in a tiny apartment)
Red Hood and the Outlaws – I have now suffered through three whole issues of this comic (actually 4 but I paged through that one to read like one scene at the end) and it is determined to make me hate everyone involved with it in terms of its disrespect for Roy and Kory. Also all the issues kept trying to convince me that Jason and Tim have always been each others’ favourite brothers, which lol. (If that’s actually ever true for Jason it’s the most hilarisad thing ever).
Teen Titans – I made it through two issues for crossover purposes. I am tempted to come back as I think I will get some stuff out of it once I’ve finished my Teen Titans 2003 read (and look there does actually appear to be some things in here I may enjoy). Can’t believe Kurt Lance shows up in this comic. I swear he’s my new nemesis.
Suicide Squad – I am 100% not reading this comic, I only opened it for crossover issues. What have they done to Amanda Waller. (Also why is Harley Quinn trying to date Floyd Lawton, did editorial suddenly realise how many people are into his deep uh comradery with Thomas Blake and overreact trying to remove the gay cooties or something?)
Catwoman and Detective Comics – honestly I haven’t got a good enough read on either yet from the few issues I’ve read, but ‘Tec is running a Penguin plot and I’m not in the mood for a Penguin plot at the moment.
So far, my recommendations: Batwoman I recommend without hesitation. Batman & Robin has been embroidered in fans’ memories but is worthwhile in any case. Batman is interesting stories sometimes let down in execution and may actually read better if you avoid touching any tie-in issues for a readthrough.
Nightwing, Batgirl, Birds of Prey and Blue Beetle are “these are some of my favourite characters, I want to know even if I don’t always like it” reads. They’re still the same characters, just trapped in a maddening world.
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Gunnverse Batman fancast
Fancast for James Gunn’s DCU/Batman!
DCEU recast
Burtonverse Recast
90′s Justice League
Reevesverse Batman
Superman
Wonder Woman
The Flash
Green Lantern
Aquaman
Justice League
Green Arrow
Teen Titans
Suicide Squad
Justice League Dark
Batman Beyond
The Dark Knight Returns
Telltale’s Batman
Injustice
Legion Of Doom
Birds Of Prey
Jensen Ackles as Batman/Bruce Wayne
Peter Capaldi as Alfred Pennyworth
Jon Hamm as Thomas Wayne
Lena Headley as Martha Wayne
Courtney B. Vance as Lucius Fox
Laura Dern as Dr Leslie Thompkins
Bryan Cranston as James Gordon
David Harbour as Harvey Bullock
Stephanie Beatriz as Renee Montoya
Bill Hader as Jack Ryder/The Creeper
Jodie Comer as Vicki Vale
Jesús Castro as Nightwing/Dick Grayson
Kiera Allen as Oracle/Barbara Gordon
Dacre Montgomery as Red Hood/Jason Todd
Lucas Jade Zumann as Red Robin/Tim Drake
Kristen Stewart as Batwoman/Kate Kane
Mary Elizabeth Winstead as Huntress/Helena Bertinelli
Riley Lai Nelet as Batgirl/Cassandra Cain
Mckenna Grace as Spoiler/Stephanie Brown
Izaac Wang as Robin/Damian Wayne
John Boyega as Batwing/Luke Fox
Caleb McLaughlin as Duke Thomas/The Signal
Alexander Ludwig as Azrael/Jean Paul Valley
Michael B Jordan as Azrael/Michael Lane
Ana De Armas as Catwoman/Selina Kyle
Brian Cox as Commissioner Gillian Loeb
Sam Witwer as Captain Howard Brandon
Michael Weatherly as Detective Arnold Flass
Robert De Niro as Carmine Falcone
Gina Mantegna as Sofia Falcone
David Dastmalchian as Alberto Falcone
James Carpinello as Mario Falcone
Al Pacino as Sal Maroni
John Goodman as Rupert Thorne
Michael Imperioli as Anthony Zucco
Willem Dafoe as The Joker
Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn
David Tennant as The Riddler/Edward Nygma
Alfred Molina as The Penguin/Oswald Chesterfield Cobblepot
Oscar Isaac as Two-Face/Harvey Dent
Giancarlo Esposito as Mr Freeze/Victor Fries
Viggo Mortensen as Black Mask/Roman Sionis
Jane Levy as Andrea Beaumont/The Phantasm
Adam Driver as Scarecrow/Jonathan Crane
Kevin Grevioux as Killer Croc
Laz Alonso as Bane
Doug Jones as Man-Bat/Kirk Langstrom
Peter Stormare as Clayface/Basil Karlo
Toby Jones as Mad Hatter/Jervis Tetch
John Lithgow as The Ventriloquist/Arnold Wesker
Natalie Dormer as The Ventriloquist II/Peyton Riley
Dohmnall Gleeson as Hush/Thomas Elliot
Raul Esparza as Hugo Strange
Anya Taylor-Joy as Poison Ivy
Pedro Pascal as Deadshot/Floyd Lawton
Frank Grillo as Deathstroke/Slade Wilson
Finn Wittrock as Talon/William Cobb
Karl Urban as Owlman/Thomas Wayne Jr
Stephen Fry as Professor Pyg
Stephen Lang as David Cain
Daniel Radcliffe as Anarky
Nikolaj Coster-Waldau as Cluemaster
Keanu Reeves as Prometheus
Ming-Na Wen as Lady Shiva
Ghassan Massoud as Ra’s Al Ghul
Nadine Njeim as Talia Al Ghul
Yasmine Al Massri as Nyssa Al Ghul
Michael Fassbender as Dr Simon Hurt
Kat Graham as Jezebel Jet/Black Glove
Christian Bale as The Batman Who Laughs
#DC#Fancasts#Batman#Batfamily#Batman Villains#Robin#Batgirl#Oracle#Nightwing#Spoiler#Dick Grayson#Tim Drake#Red Hood#Jason Todd#Barbara Gordon#Cassandra Cain#Stephanie Brown#Damian Wayne#The Joker#Harley Quinn#Two Face#The Penguin#Ra's Al Ghul#Talia AL Ghul#Catwoman#Poison Ivy#The Riddler#Mad Hatter#Lady Shiva#Deathstroke
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leagueofcomicbookgeeks stats
OK I'm bored so here are my league of comicbook geek stats after I inputted most comics I remember reading
Top 20 read characters
So, a few things. They do separate this into identity. So Barbara Gordon as Batgirl and Barbara Gordon as Oracle and Barbara Gordon as not a superhero count separately
Secondly I have *no* clue how hal is this high considering despite my promises I haven't read his spectre series yet and haven't sought him out a ton. I did read the Showcase Presents Green Lantern and his parallax-ification arc, but my guess is most of his appearances are just when he was a member of the justice league and not a super focal character.
Batman obviously takes the cake for sheer # of appearances because I have read sooooooo many 90s/2000s Batfam crossovers, as well as the 60s showcase presents stuff, some golden age batman TPBs when bored, 70s/80s comic stuff.... etc.... he just got read a lot.
However, (though I do generally like Batman), the rating is not corresponded to how much I like a character. Out of the characters I consider my prime Blorbos, Babs is the only one to break the top 10.
Damian is 34 ranked, cass is 36, Jaime, the character who got me into DC, is 99th.
a screen showing robin, damian wayne, at 167 appearances read, cassandra cain batgirl at 157 appearances read, and blue beetle jaime reyes at 70 appearances read.
The most read writer is *sigh* chuck dixon
at least messner-loebs breaks the top 10 :donnapray:
because they break the batman and superman comics up into multiple titles (batman, detective comics, shadow of the bat, legends of the dark knight, superman, action comics, man of steel, adventures of superman), wonder woman gets the top spot for titles read
IDK more stats to come as I am bored and keep inputting stuff.
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yes please read impulse!!!!!! tbh i skipped most of the messner-loebs run but the waid and dezago runs were so so good
taking notes!!! i love bart and uhhh tt03 is very unkind to him. as soon as im done with my tim & steph read through its bart & damian time
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Inked Temptation [a Damian Priest story] 17 Options
Ellie POV
I was typing away as I tried to finish my work for the day as quickly as possible. Unfortunately, the internet connection kept screwing me up as I tried to get the latest photos and articles online.
It was frustrating, but I didn't let it dampen my good mood. I was so happy to finally get back to work. But to be honest, it was more because I was finally able to spend a lot of time with Damian again than with my work.
Besides, there was the planning for the wedding. Somehow I never expected how many tiny decisions had to be made. And that's not easy when there were so many wonderful options. I just had such a hard time deciding.
But these thoughts left me very quickly as I felt warm lips that nestled against my neck. I smiled and turned my head to the side to look into the beautiful eyes of my future husband.
Damian had been an absolute sweetheart. With everything. With my stay in the hospital, with setting up and redecorating the house, and even with planning the wedding. Well, with the small part we had already done.
"Hello, you gorgeous man." I breathed.
"Hello to you too, Ellie-Bell. How's it going? I thought I'd stop by before getting ready for the show." he replied after giving me a loving kiss and then sitting down next to me.
"I'm finally done for the day. It took a really long time. But that's nothing new. I look forward to seeing you in action later. Oh and I've been looking for options for the wedding in New York. I'm afraid the Empire State Building is not an option for us." I said as I took his hand in mine so I could play with his long fingers.
"Oh no... Why not?" he wanted to know.
"Well... it's only possible for selected couples to get married there. You have to have a really good story in store to be chosen. Also, they only have weddings there on Valentine's Day. I think there are only 3.
And as sorry as I am, a February wedding in New York doesn't sound very appealing. I would freeze to death in a beautiful dress. Then I looked at a few rooftop options with a view of the Empire State, but they don't allow decorations, flowers. Nothing at all. Not even chairs for the guests. And that would also mean we would need another location for the reception," I explained to him.
"Too bad... Maybe it wasn't such a good idea to celebrate in New York. I'm sure we'll find another alternative," Damian said.
He sounded so disappointed. I knew he wanted to celebrate our wedding in his city. Fortunately, I already had an alternative.
"I think I found something that might be even nicer...what do you think of the Loeb Boathouse in Central Park? It has a great view of the lake and in the spring when the trees are green and everything is blooming it sure will be beautiful. They have a big room that adjoins the restaurant, a big deck, and you can even rent gondolas," I replied, barely able to contain my excitement.
"Someone is very passionate about this, huh? I think I could be convinced to like it." said Damian, his voice low as he brought his face close to mine and rubbed my nose with his.
"I think you already love the idea and just want to take advantage of my weakness for you, love." I replied softly as I began to slowly stroke his thigh with my hand.
"Hmm.... no... I think I definitely need convincing." He murmured, his face still close to mine.
"Oh? I think I can be very persuasive. Too bad you have to get to work now. Otherwise, it would be very easy... to give in to... temptation here and now. But don't worry... There'll be plenty of time for that later," I whispered against his lips.
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🔥 unpopular opinion on legacy mantles and perhaps how they’re treated in-universe and out?
i don't know if this is truly an unpopular opinion but based on how they're treated in the comics right now i'm going to go with my gut and say that it is. legacy characters as a concept truly only work from from a publishing standpoint, and even narratively for the most part, if the previous holder of the mantle is retired or dead. if we go back to DC before Geoff Johns got into his nostalgia wankfest and look at these legacy characters, you'll see what I mean. Look at Wally West post Crisis on Infinite Earths/Death of Barry Allen. His growth in his solo proceeding that - especially everything in Messner-Loebs and later Waid, only works because Barry Allen is dead. All that growth - of Wally, Linda, Hartley, the Flashfam, works in a big part because Barry isn't in the scene. We're meant to accept that the previous holder of the mantle is gone, and we need to accept the new guy to keep stories going forward and keep them interesting. Same thing goes for Kyle Rayner as Green Lantern, now obviously his entire origin is surrounding this point yada yada but the reason why his solo is so compelling to begin with is because he's solo. The concept of a 'Robin' works when there's only one. It's why until 2006 (really 2009 if you consider Damian's tenure as Robin to start there) it was just one Robin, and even after Damian getting into the role he got the focus. Miles Morales' story of being Spider-Man is more effective when Peter Parker is dead, Laura Kinney's when Logan is. (I suppose this is more nuanced as current Miles is good because Peter very rarely shows up / same w Laura and Logan, but I still think they'd be better holders of their mantles if their predecessors were dead or retired - I'd prefer the latter for both).
like - these characters need a reason to stand out. why would a new, or even returning reader want to pick up someone new in the role of a fan favourite superhero when the original is still thriving and has his own book, you know? what is the point of their existence when they'll forever be stuck in the shadow of their predecessor and never be truly allowed to fan out, spread their wings and have their time in the sun? these things work when the original is out of the spotlight and gives the new guys the time to shine.
Unpopular opinion asks
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