#D199

[daikenkki]

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[askthefamous8]

god has it really been 7 years since the first fanart page i did?? ahh, good times. also this is very late but CONGRATS ON YOUR WEDDING 🎉🎉🎉

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Firstly I'm so sorry I didn't respond to this when you sent it for the anniversary, I was feeling really depressed and didn't want to look at what I knew would be a wonderful drawing page while I was so unhappy. BUT now I feel better and can appreciate it and let me just say-

*screams* First you've iimproved so much!! It's awesome to see that development. Second PERCY NO!!!!! Also man I love how you drew him there. And Thomas and his freakish eyes 😭 I love that it's Henry saying that too.

Babby Thomas might just be up there (slightly below) cantankerous old man James as far as iconic SD drawings that permanently reside in my mind go.

James serving as always....... Somehow I feel like Thomas is not doing fine. Aw man I love seeing you draw them in their overalls. Is it just me or is Gordon kinda beautiful (behind the scowl of course)

Thank you so much 😢 While I wasn't in a good mood to receive it right when you sent it (like a 'why is everyone so nice to me, i dont deserve it' sadness) but MAN I appreciate it. so anyway thank you so much and happy new year!!!!

[visionarylocomotiveworks]

"So with 7101 growling in front, and Henry gamely puffing in the middle, the long cavalcade set out to the next big station."

From book 23: Enterprising Engines, based off of probably the most beloved Railway Series story to never get adapted for TV - Super Rescue!

[spc-rambles]

The big 'Day of the Diesels' rewrite is finally here! The endgame has come!

[weirdowithaquill]

The Importance of Names in the Railway Series

It's been a hot minute since my last take on the world of Thomas & Friends - so here's one that has sort of been wandering about in the back of my mind for a while.

How important is a name to an engine? Cause we know the engines do put a lot of value into a name. Stepney and Edward say as such:

"[...] I think our Controller was right. All engines ought to have names." "Yes," agreed Edward, "it's most important."

And it's further reinforced by Bear later in the series:

"It's nicer than just having a number," he (Bear) says. "Having a name means that you really belong."

Donald and Douglas echo this by giving themselves names (partially to fool the Fat Controller) and the interesting thing is that Sir Charles actually uses their names almost exclusively from that moment on - unless referring to them by their new numbers.

Even BoCo gives himself a name! And it feels pretty on-the-spot too, seeing as he just goes "but you can call me BoCo".

But in contrast, every single rail-based 'villain' or 'antagonist' in the Railway Series only has a number, or is Diesel, who doesn't really have a name either. Check me! There's:

Diesel

The 'Big City Engine'

Class 40 (D261/D471)

D199

D40125

None of them have names - not even 'the Big City Engine'. They're given nicknames by the engines, but otherwise they are just numbers. And I think it runs a bit deeper than that. A little while back I did a post on the 'railway rulebook' - and something I said was that managers did everything in their power to both dehumanise the engines and make the engines loyal to them. What better way of doing that than only giving certain engines names? 'Flying Scotsman' gets a name because he's a prestigious express engine, but the engine who shunts his coaches? The goods engine who brought his coal? Why would management give them names - to do that is to undermine the class system they've built to keep the engines fighting amongst themselves. If the engines are on equal footing, then they'd want equal rights.

You know... this sounds a lot like the Communist Manifesto. I don't think the Rev. W. Awdry intended it that way, but it does.

But that's beside my point. Certain railways either don't want their engines to have names. In particular, I would point at the LMS and the LNER, which both had a massive roster of engines. Not only is recording all their names a pain, but it would also add a sense of individuality to them and muck up their spreadsheets. In most countries, people have an ID number for identification - and that's what these companies needed. Not names; numbers.

The GWR is a notable exception to this, and I think people have noticed that. Both Duck and Oliver arrive with names, and Sir Topham I was a Swindon-apprentice who would have grown up with GWR ideology. Edward got his name because he was built as an express engine, Henry and Gordon for the same reasons - and everyone else either gives themselves names or have names given to them.

Toby probably got his from his crew and the locals after decades of being in the same area - I mean, he literally runs into their town, of course they have a name for him. Percy is given his by Sir Topham, and we can infer Thomas and James got similar treatment. Donald and Douglas gave themselves names, and so did BoCo.

Another possibility is that a preservation society would give engines names, though that was more the engines on said heritage line - like in Stepney the Bluebell Engine, where Stepney refers to all his friends on the Bluebell by name, and says his controller gave out some names, like Bluebell and Primrose - but Adams and Cromford got their names from the other engines and they don't want the controller finding out. And again, Stepney and Edward both explicitly say that they believe engines ought to have names - and that they believe it really makes an engine feel like family.

This almost exclusively applies to engines in a steam-dominated society, and once again I have to return to my old nemesis: early British Railways. British Railways inherited a massive network that spanned a continent and had thousands of engines - not to mention the fact they were going to scrap all their steam engines and replace them with new diesel engines. Names were never ever going to be viable. But moreover, they were going to kill all the steam engines - if these engines were seen by the public to be very sentient and intelligent, then there would be an outcry. Dehumanising these engines was extremely important to their business model.

So almost every new engine built under BR got no name. And that includes steam and diesel engines. And this sort of environment, where engines referred to each other by number, became standard.

Names have a lot of meaning behind them. We give names to things we believe are very valuable to us, things we really bond with, like a teddy bear or a beloved family car. Names confer a level of love and care, as opposed to numbers, which have a level of 'repetitive factory conveyor belt' to them, for lack of a better term. These engines, referring to each other by number, didn't sound as human as those referring to each other by name.

For a good example, as mentioned above, the GWR gave all its engines names - and the GWR has the most engines from its company preserved. The fact that people knew these engines had names, and possibly by name, really contributed to how many were saved.

But what makes it even more interesting is the fact that often engines give each other names. Bear is given his name by the other engines, Duck is a nickname given to 'Montague' because he waddles. And I think the reason that none of these diesels have names is because no steam engine ever gave them a name, and company policy means no diesel has the mindset for giving out names either. Steam engines give each other names, but it becomes exclusive to them and friendly diesels, and thus dies out over the generations.

Engines today don't have names. They don't even really have a proper visible number. They have a serial number somewhere, but that's about it. And I think that says a lot about what happened to the tradition of names for engines.

To sum up a very long, winding ramble, I think names came from several places:

Themselves. Engines could name themselves, like Donald and Douglas - who got their names from (maybe) former drivers?

From crew and community. Toby most likely got his name from the people around him, being on an isolated tramway.

From their owners. Flying Scotsman, Mallard and Percy are good examples of this. It represents a level of importance and care for this engine, as well as in some cases reinforcing class.

From other engines. Duck and Bear are great examples of this, as they are given names by their friends that they like, as it makes them feel as if they fit in.

And these names were very common in the steam era as engines gave each other names and communities knew specific engines and gave them names. As everything became more commercial and bureaucratic, naming was lost. Numbers reinforced company identity and dehumanised the engines to make them less sympathetic to the public. Look at Donald and Douglas, who probably had their names for decades - given by their friends - but never learnt by management.

Wow, that took a bit of a dark turn. Thanks for reading, and as usual, none of the above pictures are mine.

[anonymousboxcar]

Spamcan/D199 Headcanons & Analysis

While writing this fic and replying to folks’ lovely comments, I thought a lot about Spamcan and what makes him distinct to me. I feel like he’s different from the other rude diesel antagonists.

In my opinion, what sets him apart is that he has a companion. Bowler and Old Stuck Up arrive alone while Spamcan shares his trial with Bear. He also says “we” and “our controller” to Bear. There’s familiarity between them; he thinks of themselves as a package deal.

Bear validates this: “Shush! It’s their railway.” He doesn’t agree with Spamcan’s bigotry, but he still calls the NWR “their” railway. He’s aligning himself along lines of “us and them,” suggesting he and Spamcan are on the same “side” to some degree. He also considers themselves a package deal, even if he’s frustrated with it.

So how did these two become acquainted?

Well, Bear is a diesel-hydraulic engine — a type BR declares non-standard. Spamcan is a diesel-electric, safe for now from the cutter’s torch, but Bear’s position is much more fragile.

Considering what we see of Spamcan, he doesn’t seem like he’d befriend Bear for altruistic reasons. Yet he still refers to himself and Bear as a “we.” He even worries about what Bear thinks of him after he breaks down with his oil tankers.

And that’s what I think is at the root of this. Spamcan doesn’t care about Bear, but about what Bear thinks of him. He cares about maintaining a self-image that convinces Bear to stay with him, to keep following him.

Spamcan wants Bear to be dependent upon him.

I imagine their dynamic on BR was Spamcan demanding Bear’s loyalty in exchange for protection. And by protection, I mean dumping his work on Bear with the excuse of keeping him “out of sight, out of mind” from their controller. Bear didn’t have any better options, so he went along with it. Now he’s at the end of his rope.

But my pre-canon musings aside, do you see what I’m getting at? Spamcan’s one manipulative son of a gun!

He utilizes Bear’s threatened status to keep him close, to have someone who backs up what he says. His use of chummy plural pronouns is a strategy to wear down Bear’s sense of individuality. He tries to create camaraderie while also diminishing him, reducing him to a satellite in his orbit.

Spamcan is arrogant and boastful, but he has a degree of subtlety, too. That’s something that Bowler and Old Stuck Up never managed. The fact they came alone on their trials suggests they don’t have any followers or “friends” of their own, any of Spamcan’s finesse.

But you know who does manage some of that finesse? Diesel.

I like to think that Spamcan hears the story of Diesel’s trial. To him, it’s clear that Diesel worked the best when he flattered other engines and made himself indispensable to them. Messing with the trucks backfired in the end, but Spamcan would never do such a foolish thing. He can do one better than Diesel.

It’s not Spamcan’s plan to go to Sodor — he would rather stay on a “modernized” railway — but he figures it’s his duty to spread modernization. Like a “good diesel,” he volunteers himself with Bear for the trial. The Sodor engines will be on guard now, so who better to go with him than the fellow diesel to which he made himself invaluable? It’ll ensure someone has his back in hostile territory.

Spamcan’s miscalculation is in assuming that Bear will be grateful for recommending him to go on trial, winning him more points with him. But on BR, Bear was vulnerable. Now that he’s on Sodor, he has a chance of getting to safety. He doesn’t need Spamcan’s protection.

And every time Spamcan tries to appeal to him, he’s showing himself at his nastiest. Bear’s personal morals aside, if Spamcan hates “outdated” steam engines, how long will it be before he turns on “non-standard” diesels? How long will it be before Bear stops being useful to BR and to Spamcan?

When Bear tells Spamcan to shut up, he loses his only support right as he makes enemies out of every steam engine on this island. He’s alone and it’s all his own fault, all because he assumed he could manipulate his way out of any situation.

In that way, Spamcan isn’t too different from the other rude diesel antagonists. He fails because he’s arrogant and discriminatory. He fails because our protagonists resist swollen egos and prejudice where they see it.

But I like to think I’ve made a decent case for the ways he is different. I think he’s a bit subtler, a bit more manipulative than the others, even if he’s no more successful. What do you guys think? :)

[supersmashsoni]

afunlessland asked "What happens to the snobby Diesel trio in the AU? (D199, D261 and Old Stuck-Up)"

Starting with the most basic, Old Stuck-Up visited in 1980, put in one more year of service after being sent home, and was scrapped in 1983 like the real 40125.

D199 was a recurring visitor to Sodor after "Super Rescue." He frequently arrived, caused trouble, and left for home.

In 1977, he bragged one week that he was being transferred to elsewhere, so he would never have to deal with the Sodor engines again.

The next week, Bear found him at Barrow begging to join the NWR, as he had been withdrawn, and his "new home" was a scrapyard.

While they weren't fond of him, neither Bear nor Charles Hatt wanted him to die, so he purchased from the other railway. And while there were a few hiccups, especially with the other engines, he eventually became part of the fleet. He is still rather arrogant and cowardly, but he has matured and no longer makes comments about steam engines. He also took on the name, "Samuel," and was given the number "D12."

D261 visited a second time in 1970, but he was sent away after some antics (my AU's version of Edward the Really Useful Engine and The World's Strongest Engine).

He returned later in 1983 and was outwardly as boastful as ever. However, the engines could tell he was different, as he was clearly more desperate. He eventually confessed that his class was starting to be withdrawn, and he knew that he was next in line. The other engines felt sorry for him and brought up his case to Stephen Hatt. Because of this, Bowler as he came to be known eventually joined the railway and gained the number "D14." (This is when his magazine stories happen.)

[agustinserrano62]

Bear and D199's Nameboards (1984-1986)

[duskstargazer]

[1966]

“You're back late, aren’t you?”

“Some Ivatt Mogul derailed just outside a yard.” Diesel 7603 grunted. “Cost me and like three other engines like an hour and a half.”

“Damn. Won't have to deal with that for much longer.”

“Deal with what?” The big green diesel spoke up.

“You haven't heard?” Diesel 8028 replied, dismissively. “They're doin’ away with steam engines. By this time next year, steam won't even be allowed on the main line.”

The diesel blinked. “Doing away with? Not like they’re doing now, right…?”

“Not at all.” 8028 rolled his eyes. “We’re talking complete removal. They’ll all be disappearing.”

“Disappearing…?”

“So too will all that congestion in the scheduling.” Diesel 7603 remarked at the same time, drowning out The Diesel’s discontented comment.

The “Whistler” remained quiet after that. He paid little attention to the coarse joking and rude remarks about steam engines from his fellow shedmates. A lonely, strangled goods yard, and several hollering, howling voices still echoed within his radiator.

[thechaddyengine]

Arthur got a bit hungry, so he grabbed a bite to eat lol

(And yea, i gave him a tuff of hair on him, I think it looks neat on him)

[edwardthomasnw]

D199 seems to have received a fictional variation of BR Corporate Blue

None of the actual 'Peaks' (as the 44s/45s/46s are collectively nicknamed) had the Double Arrow logo in the middle of the bodyside, being on the cabsides instead with numbers on the bodyside by the cab doors.

23 45s were repainted Blue in '66 at Toton, with numbers on the cabside (as with D199) but no BR logo at all. Most of those had the Small Warning Panels on the nose ends (as shown below), with one gaining the Full Yellow Ends.

Also of note is his roof and bufferbeams.

The only one to receive that combination (far as I can tell) was 45114 following an E exam at Toton - in 1979.

Suppose that fits D199 though, what with him being six on from the actual last of the type. Maybe his batch (D194 - D199) received that variant when repainted at their depot, like the Toton lot did.

info mainly from Peak Diesel Archive & Derby Sulzers (head down to 'Class 45/46 livery details' on the latter - quite a ways down!)

[daikenkki]

I'm Blue (Da Ba Dee)

[ihavetoomanyhyperfixations]

I love all those rws diesels who's names are just numbers 😋

D199 who actually just failed on sodor by trying to prove himself too hard. Look at that train he was pulling he totally just took on too much of a load. And also I guess its karma for him standing against all of the NWR's values

And then you have D261 who is the most soggy wet cat of a diesel ever. He's such a coward who doesn't stand up for his beliefs he just runs away when he fails lmao. I love what they did with him in the TCC that drama they gave him and the other old villains was so fucking juicy and great I was hyped every weekend.

And then there's all the unremarkable Spong era diesels who have no major characterisation but are visually pleasant :>

I love characters who's names are numbers <3

[lovable-chica]

Meet Amber! (Remake)

I change her class because 3 people on Sodor Au Wiki Didn’t like E2 Amber because they thought that would Ruin Thomas, I decided to make Amber an SR USA Tank Engine and I’m changing the bio style and she is now Thomas’s Youngest Cousin, don’t ask my why they aren’t the same class so don’t provoke me!

Bio

Amber was built around Early 1943 and was one of those engines to fought in WW2 since she brave enough to fight and mange to survive without being blown up but some of her siblings got blown up which gave her a little bit of ADHD and PDA, after WW2 she was send to the British Railway along with Rosie who is her long time best friend and they both did “not” have makeup at the time so yeah, then in 1963, a few years after the war ended, Rosie and Amber’s parts were pinched and stolen to repair her classmates until she would eventually be destined to be cut up for scrap, this cause Amber to become sad and didn’t want to have her faint along with her best friend but luckily they were saved by Sir Topham Hat who managed to purchase the two, he was in need of two engines to help with the extra work on Thomas' Branch Line, so after they got purchased, Rosie was painted Pastel Pink with the number 37 on her side and a nameplate and Amber was painted light blue and numbered 14 of the railway, all they engines greeted them warmly, Amber reunites with her sister and cousin, but Thomas has a small grudge towards Rosie for replacing his siblings much to Amber’s dismay.

But in the end, Rosie got the courage to tell Thomas to let off his own grudge and let they have siblings rest in peace, Amber who was being a ass told Thomas to rightfully apologize to Rosie and so he did, so on they became good friends, as like other HC, Rosie looks up to Thomas, in My HC Amber looks up to Arthur.

One time while Amber was still new to the railway, she followed Arthur around like a stranger much to Arthur’s annoyance(not in a rude way), after Arthur had an accident while derailing near the fishing village, she was the first engine to get the breakdown train before anyone else did and came to the rescue.

During TAMTR, She along some friends helped Thomas, Mr C, Junior, Lily, Patch and Burnett retrieve Lady and escape from Diesel 10, As a reward, Junior gave her some magic gold dust, with which she could transform into an Ali-Pop as human.(Also TAMTR is canon! Even in my Au)

Personality Traits: Friendly, Kind, Enthusiastic, Cheerful, Tom-Boyish, Cute, Strong, Youthful, Pure-Hearted, Playful, Fun-Loving, Polite, Sweet, Hardworking, Caring, Loving, Strict(Occasionally), Energetic, Helpful, Curious, Adventurous, Brave, Intelligent, Daring, Shy(Occasionally), Stubborn, Sassy, Rude(Only to D199, Diesel and Diesel 10 and Arry and Bert), Respectful, Even-Tempered, Sly(Mostly), Impulsive, Cool, Sensitive and Cheeky.

Number: NW 14

Relatives: Thomas(Cousin), Suzi(Sister), Abby(Adopted Sister)

Basis: SR USA 0-6-0 Dock Tank Engine

Affiliations: Northwestern Railway, Tidmouth Sheds(Mostly),Brendam Docks, Ffarqhaur Branchline(Sometimes), Shining Time Station, Sir Topham Hatt and Lady Hatt

[rygoespop]

List of characters that appear in my Thomas and Friends AU

Main:

Thomas

Edward

Henry

Gordon

James

Percy

Toby

Emily

Molly

Rosie

Stanley

and Rebecca

Secondary/Supporting:

Duck

Donald and Douglas

Oliver

Wilbert

BoCo

Philip

Bill and Ben

Derek

Timothy

Marion

Salty

Porter

Daisy

Ryan

Brent the Ballast Spreader

Mavis

Sidney

Arry and Bert

Diesel

Den

Dart

Diesel 10

Billy

Norman

Arthur

Harvey

Bear

Stafford

Fergus

Charlie

Dennis

Murdoch

Flora

Belle

Flynn

Whiff

Scruff

Neil

Neville

Hank

Sonny

Paxton

Ferdinand

Bash and Dash

Glynn

Stephen

Dustin

Winston

Skarloey

Rheneas

Sir Handel

Peter Sam

Rusty

Duncan

Duke

Bertram

Smudger

Freddie

Mighty Mac

Luke

Millie

Victor

Culdee

Wilfred

Harry (Formerly known as Lord Harry and later as Patrick)

Alaric

Godred

Mike

Rex

Bert

Flying Scotsman

Spencer

Stepney

Connor

Caitlin

Samson

Merlin

Lexi

Theo

Hurricane

Frankie

D261

Splodge (Splatter and Dodge)

Jinty and Pug

Patriot the Big City Engine

Mallard

Green Arrow

Thirteen

Hiro

Gator

Ashima

Rajiv

Yong Bao

Shane

Vinnie

Sam

Axel

Gina

Raul

Etienne

Frieda

Hugo

Ivan

Carlos

Lady

Proteus

Annie and Clarabel

Henrietta

Toad

Old Slow Coach

Bruno

Rocky

Judy and Jerome

Hector

SCruffey

Fred Pelham

The Slip Coaches

Bradford

Catherine

Bertie

Bulgy

Terence

Trevor

Caroline

Elizabeth

George

Butch

The Horrid Lorries

Kevin

Madge

Thumper

Jack

Alfie

Oliver

Ned

Max and Monty

Isobella

Kelly

Byron

Buster

Bulstrode

Skiff

Captain

Harold

Jeremy

Cranky

Carly

Big Mickey

Reg

Owen

Merrick

And Beresford

Coming Soon:

Logan

Ulli

Duchess of Hamilton

Flying Thistle

D199

Albert

Kenji (Maybe)

Ivo Hugh

Ada, Mabel, Jane, and Cora

City of Turo

2007 Prince of Wales

W1

Old King Coal

Elsie

Hannah (Henrietta’s Sister)

Helena and Victoria

Frank

So, there you have it